Re: KX-T: Telemarketers

2002-01-24 Thread David Lesher

Unnamed Administration sources reported that Paul H. Gusciora said:
 
> Ever see those TV ads selling Telezappers - Those gadgets you plug into
> your phone line to eliminate Telemarketing calls?   This site describes
> how they work:  http://www.flash.net/~carlton2/telemark.htm
.

I have doubts as to how well such works...irrespective of
hardware vs sw tone generation..

Why?

The tones you generate are post-supervision. Real SIT tones
are before (or actually in lieu of) supervision. Any telesleeze
will know the difference.



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KX-T: Re: CID with KX-TD 816 & TVS-75

2002-01-24 Thread Charles Patterson

The phone system takes care of all that.
When you program the ksu for caller id it will automatically wait to let the
cid information get through on each line you set for cid.  The cid info also
does come through on the smdr.

charles




- Original Message -
From: "Paul H. Gusciora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:56 AM
Subject: KX-T: CID with KX-TD 816 & TVS-75


> CID (Caller ID, also known as CPID Calling Party IDentification) on POTS
CO
> lines is sent as a burst of data on a Bell-303 modem carrier between the
> first and second rings.
>
> If the CO line goes off-hook immediately after the first ring, the CID
data
> is never sent, therefore can never be received.
>
> If I understand your comments correctly, CID data is not received anywhere
> -- not even the SMDR printer. If this is the case, perhaps before the
> custom service was set up, the phone system delayed things enough so that
> the CID data was sent (and received) before VM picked up.
>
> Options:
>
> 1. Delay answer on transfer to VM Custom Service for a few seconds
> advantages: this will work as desired
> disadvantages: It is not clear how to program the KX-TD1232 to do
> this!
>
> As I understand it, one has to use DIL 1:1 to the VM extension group to
> have the VM pick up incoming calls with no implied extension context (and
> therefore get the Custom Service Menu instead of the extension mailbox).
> DIL 1:N allows for a delay to a physical port, but DIL 1:1 to an extension
> or extension group is immediate. Usually one sets the FWD B/NA timer to
3-5
> rings or so -- this is too long if everyone is expecting the VM to pick
up.
> Perhaps one can use a phantom extension, or an unused physical extension
in
> some sort of UCD overflow group to delay transfer from selected CO lines
to
> the VM ports?
>
> 2. Delay VM answer on all VM ports
> advantages: this will work
> disadvantages: VM always delays answering -- even for internal
> calls and transfers. One could configure no delay during the day, and a
> small delay at night, but that would be inconvienent for busineses with
> irregular hours, as the VM night setting is on a fixed schedule and does
> not track the phone system night setting.
>
> 3. Install ISDN-BRI or ISDN-PRI (T1) which transmits CPID as part of
> the D channel call setup
> advantages: generates revenue for the LEC, installer, and
> Panasonic.
> disadvantages: more complicated & expensive.
>
> Note that local tariffs might make ISDN-BRI attractive for other reasons.
> Here in CA (Pacific Bell / Southwest Bell), a business POTS line costs
> about 15 $/month, CPID costs 7.50 $/month (ouch!), but ISDN-BRI (2 B + 1 D
> channels) costs 36 $/month. I think that one receives CPID and CNID
(Called
> Number IDentification) data for two lines in the ISDN-BRI rate.
>
> Paul H. Gusciora
> San Rafael, CA
>
> 
> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: "Bill Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Importance: Normal
> Subject: KX-T: CID with KX-TD 816 & TVS-75
> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 17:26:34 -0500
>
> I have a customer that claims until I set their TVS-75 up for custom
> service, that they always could see the CID information in their 74XX
> display phones before they would answer a call.  I suspect that the way I
> have the TVS set up it is transferring the calls to the extensions in a
> supervised mode, therefore not permitting the CID info from getting to the
> extension.  If that is the cause, how can I change it so the CID will pass
> prior to the call being answered and still keep the custom service menus
> that I have set up for them?
>
>
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Re: KX-T: KX-T 72XX series clear plastic inserts sought

2002-01-24 Thread David Lesher

Unnamed Administration sources reported that Joe Childs said:
> 
> I've got some, give me a call.
> 
> On the top of MY want list is an LCD for a 7230. I spent some time last week
> cleaning and replacing the shell on one, and when I called Pana to buy the
> screen they informed me that it was a $150 part!
> 
> FOR SALE: one KX-T7230 with new shell/broken LCD :)

You might try matching it with DigiKey's catalog.
They have many LCD arrays...


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KX-T: Re: Re: "interactive sales and user guides"

2002-01-24 Thread Charles Patterson

Yes, that kit looks useful, but who dreamed up that poster!!! Geesh, looks
like the ghost of some Mardi-Gras reveller talking on a cellphone!  I don't
think any of my customers could relate to that picture.

cp

- Original Message -
From: "JimMarks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Charles P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "kxthelp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:22 AM
Subject: KX-T: Re: "interactive sales and user guides"


> I found those entirely useless but I received an awsesome sales kit
> yesterday that hit the mark. I can remember asking for stickers for the
> vehicles, equipment & office 6 or 7 years ago.  These appliques all have a
> new logo for the Communications Systems Division,  It included software to
> print custom service stickers w/ the logos & your dealer name to put on
each
> system...Jim
>
>
> Jim Marks
> 973-627-7088
> Denville Wiring Systems
> Panasonic Phones & Voicemail
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Charles P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "kxthelp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:54 PM
> Subject: KX-T: "interactive sales and user guides"
>
>
> > Have any of you dealers out there ever found the "Sales and
> Interactive"...
> > cd's that Panasonic sends out to be of any use?
> > Once again, seems to be produced by people who don't know what it's like
> to
> > sell and use their own equipment, but maybe it's just me.
> >
> > charles
> >
> >
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KX-T: "interactive sales and user guides"

2002-01-24 Thread JimMarks

That poster was funny, I threw it straight into the round filing cabinet..:)
I'm not keen on that CSD logo either it looks like a cell phone. But it is
wonderful to get something useful.  I will use it. Not like the sales CDs. I
have a drawerful of.

Jim Marks
Denville Wiring Systems
Panasonic Phones & Voicemail


> Yes, that kit looks useful, but who dreamed up that poster!!! Geesh, looks
> like the ghost of some Mardi-Gras reveller talking on a cellphone!  I
don't
> think any of my customers could relate to that picture.
>
> cp
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "JimMarks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Charles P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "kxthelp"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:22 AM
> Subject: KX-T: Re: "interactive sales and user guides"
>
>
> > I found those entirely useless but I received an awsesome sales kit
> > yesterday that hit the mark. I can remember asking for stickers for the
> > vehicles, equipment & office 6 or 7 years ago.  These appliques all have
a
> > new logo for the Communications Systems Division,  It included software
to
> > print custom service stickers w/ the logos & your dealer name to put on
> each
> > system...Jim
> >
> >
> > Jim Marks
> > 973-627-7088
> > Denville Wiring Systems
> > Panasonic Phones & Voicemail
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Charles P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "kxthelp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:54 PM
> > Subject: KX-T: "interactive sales and user guides"
> >
> >
> > > Have any of you dealers out there ever found the "Sales and
> > Interactive"...
> > > cd's that Panasonic sends out to be of any use?
> > > Once again, seems to be produced by people who don't know what it's
like
> > to
> > > sell and use their own equipment, but maybe it's just me.
> > >
> > > charles
> > >
> > >
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Re: KX-T: Re: "interactive sales and user guides"

2002-01-24 Thread Michael N. Marcus

>>Carl "or maybe a PT" Navarro<<

Keep your checkbook in your pocket, Carl.

In a new sales contest ("Dash or Smash") to be announced on 4/1, dealers can
accumulate points to win either a Honda S2000 sportscar or Honda Passport
SUV, with CSD signs already installed.

Much cooler than those silly pink Cadillacs that Mary Kay cosmetics dealers
get.

Michael N. Marcus
AbleComm, Inc.
www.ablecomm.com




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Re: KX-T: Telemarketers

2002-01-24 Thread Charles Patterson

A friend of mine (telecom guy) put one on his home phone line and said it
really made a difference.  He would pick up the phone and hear the
disconnecting talimarketer as soon as the tone was sent.

>
> The tones you generate are post-supervision. Real SIT tones
> are before (or actually in lieu of) supervision. Any telesleeze
> will know the difference.
>
>



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Re: KX-T: Re: "interactive sales and user guides"

2002-01-24 Thread Carl Navarro

At 10:40 AM 1/24/2002 -0500, Michael N. Marcus wrote:
>>>Carl "or maybe a PT" Navarro<<
>
>Keep your checkbook in your pocket, Carl.
>
>In a new sales contest ("Dash or Smash") to be announced on 4/1, dealers can
>accumulate points to win either a Honda S2000 sportscar or Honda Passport
>SUV, with CSD signs already installed.
>
>Much cooler than those silly pink Cadillacs that Mary Kay cosmetics dealers
>get.
>
>Michael N. Marcus

Or Dash and Crash or Dash and Roll.  A good thing you qualified the offer
with a date :-).

Carl "I'll hold out for the PT" Navarro




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Re: KX-T: Telemarketers

2002-01-24 Thread Carl Navarro

At 11:00 AM 1/24/2002 -0500, Charles Patterson wrote:
>A friend of mine (telecom guy) put one on his home phone line and said it
>really made a difference.  He would pick up the phone and hear the
>disconnecting talimarketer as soon as the tone was sent.
>
>>
>> The tones you generate are post-supervision. Real SIT tones
>> are before (or actually in lieu of) supervision. Any telesleeze
>> will know the difference.

Oh, so this sends a SIT tone to all callers?  I wondered how it worked.

Carl




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Re: KX-T: KXTD1232

2002-01-24 Thread Panman2424

You might consider calling the dealer back and asking how much 1 hour of 
training on the system would run, Or price out 2 or 3 dealers, I offer new 
customers 1st visit training for $50.00, After 1 hour most office can do all 
the changes needed in speed dial, programming buttons, changing names, etc., 
On top of that operators get tips on transferring, ring back to operator, 
flash to outside voice mail, Have a list ready and if he or she is a good 
trainer they will come with sheets to leave you that you can refer back to.

Philip Lavery


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Re: KX-T: Re: kx-td.com

2002-01-24 Thread Kurt J. Lidl

On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 03:36:42AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have read the list long enough to know that Able has made many
> customers happy, but like any dealer some installs and Internet
> sales go great and some don't.

My experience with them was somewhere between the two extremes.

I got exactly what I needed from a hardware perspective, but zero
help in debugging my ISDN issues.  A sympathetic return call that
was essentially "we don't know" would be better than tens of
unreturned phone calls for support that I made.  I did finally
extract one faxed product app note from Ablecomm.  By that point
I was pretty seriously PO'd about their customer service.

I was ultimately able to figure out what was going on with my ISDN
BRI lines, through my own testing and multiple re-readings of the
manuals, along with a lot of time spent with some cisco ISDN gear.

-Kurt

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Re: KX-T: Re: kx-td.com

2002-01-24 Thread Joe Childs

BRAK!
So somebody is actually using ISDN modules and didn't buy 'em from me!

Just a reminder to all my fellow dealers, I fell into a quantity of ISDN parts
and am *trying* to sell them for WAY less than dealer cost.

-Joe

PS- I can't offer support on ISDN, I've never installed one.



On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:55:46 -0500, you wrote:

>On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 03:36:42AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I have read the list long enough to know that Able has made many
>> customers happy, but like any dealer some installs and Internet
>> sales go great and some don't.
>
>My experience with them was somewhere between the two extremes.
>
>I got exactly what I needed from a hardware perspective, but zero
>help in debugging my ISDN issues.  A sympathetic return call that
>was essentially "we don't know" would be better than tens of
>unreturned phone calls for support that I made.  I did finally
>extract one faxed product app note from Ablecomm.  By that point
>I was pretty seriously PO'd about their customer service.
>
>I was ultimately able to figure out what was going on with my ISDN
>BRI lines, through my own testing and multiple re-readings of the
>manuals, along with a lot of time spent with some cisco ISDN gear.
>
>-Kurt
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KX-T: Panasonic Tech BBS

2002-01-24 Thread Bill Smith

Does anybody out there know what happened to the Panasonic Tech BBS.  The
number that I have in my Hyper term setup that I used to use to dial into
the BBS just reaches a number that doesn't get answered.

Have they changed the number or has Panasonic gone to a secure web site as
many other companies have for dealer support and confidential information
management?


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KX-T: Here's one (OT)

2002-01-24 Thread Joe Childs

List,

I bought a couple of the new Seimens Gigaset 2 line dealies yesterday (Model
8825) for my house. They seem pretty nifty so far but

I have 2 lines. The second line is an "extra" that I use for outbound calling
AND for forwarding to my cell phone. It does not have caller ID. It is pretty
much always forwarded. As you know, TELCO forwarding always rings the phone line
once to "remind" you that the line is forwarded. 
The problem that I am running into is that the "Call Log" feature (which shows
CID, has callback, add to speed dial options) of the Seimens is logging these
inbound/forwarded line 2 calls. My "CALL LOG" is pretty much filling up with
useless line 2 data, deleting the CID info and what not for my "main" line.

Anybody know of something that I can put on Line 2 to prevent the inbound ring
signal from reaching the "system". I DONT need to hear it ring or answer it, I
just need to be able to dial out.
Keep in mind, I'm not an EE. I don't know the difference between a flux
capacitor and a resistor :)

-Joe
--
Joe Childs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
512 258 2224 Voice
512 258 8522 Fax


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RE: KX-T: Panasonic Tech BBS

2002-01-24 Thread Carl Navarro



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Bill Smith
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: KX-T: Panasonic Tech BBS


Does anybody out there know what happened to the Panasonic Tech BBS.  The
number that I have in my Hyper term setup that I used to use to dial into
the BBS just reaches a number that doesn't get answered.

Have they changed the number or has Panasonic gone to a secure web site as
many other companies have for dealer support and confidential information
management?

Sometime ago, Panasonic sent an ID Card and password for the secure website.
Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for yours.

Carl Navarro

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Re: KX-T: Here's one (OT) -SOLUTION

2002-01-24 Thread Joe Childs

Seems Teledynamics has a "ring silencer" for about 3 bucks.
Scott says it's an inline thingie that prevents ring voltage from reaching the
phone. Sounds perfect. Thanks, everyone who responded.

-Joe


On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:31:20 -0600, I wrote:

>List,
>
>I bought a couple of the new Seimens Gigaset 2 line dealies yesterday (Model
>8825) for my house. They seem pretty nifty so far but
>
>I have 2 lines. The second line is an "extra" that I use for outbound calling
>AND for forwarding to my cell phone. It does not have caller ID. It is pretty
>much always forwarded. As you know, TELCO forwarding always rings the phone line
>once to "remind" you that the line is forwarded. 
>The problem that I am running into is that the "Call Log" feature (which shows
>CID, has callback, add to speed dial options) of the Seimens is logging these
>inbound/forwarded line 2 calls. My "CALL LOG" is pretty much filling up with
>useless line 2 data, deleting the CID info and what not for my "main" line.
>
>Anybody know of something that I can put on Line 2 to prevent the inbound ring
>signal from reaching the "system". I DONT need to hear it ring or answer it, I
>just need to be able to dial out.
>Keep in mind, I'm not an EE. I don't know the difference between a flux
>capacitor and a resistor :)
>
>-Joe


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Fwd: KX-T: KXTD1232

2002-01-24 Thread Tel4553703

In a message dated 1/24/02 3:51:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I need help in programming speed dial numbers into the Panasonic 
>  KXTD1232. And how do I do the programming to use external music 
>  source instead of the internal ones? Tried calling the Panasonic 
>  dealer here but they are of no help.
>  
>  Does some one have the manuals for this?
>  

Maybe someone should send this guy one of those useless CD's!


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KX-T: "Sales and Interactive"

2002-01-24 Thread Hello

> - Original Message -
> From: "Charles P" 
> To: "kxthelp" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:54 PM
> Subject: KX-T: "interactive sales and user guides"
>
>
> > Have any of you dealers out there ever found the "Sales and
> Interactive"...
> > cd's that Panasonic sends out to be of any use?
> > Once again, seems to be produced by people who don't know what it's like
> to
> > sell and use their own equipment, but maybe it's just me.

I have found the Interactve CD to bee quite informative.  It is nice way to inform 
educate new and existing customers the features found on system.  Sending it to the 
existing customer often lead to new sale or system upgrade for new featrure.  Many 
customer say hey I didn't know it could do all that. Or I didn't know Caller ID could 
be used!

What other sales aid that you know of can easily be sent (US mail, bulk) and provide 
detailed info?  I like to know?




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RE: KX-T: KXTD1232

2002-01-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Press Program
Press *#
Enter your password
Enter 000 for Date & Time
Enter 001 for Speed Dial Numbers
Enter 002 for Speed Dial Numbers Names

Refer to your Programming Manual, It's in there.

If you don't have a manual we will sell you a copy


Bye for now!

Wolfgang Boernert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Network Telephone Company, Inc.
470 Schooley's Mt. Road
Hackettstown, NJ 07840
908-684-9700 - Office
908-684-0808 - Fax
  



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 16:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fwd: KX-T: KXTD1232


In a message dated 1/24/02 3:51:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I need help in programming speed dial numbers into the Panasonic 
>  KXTD1232. And how do I do the programming to use external music 
>  source instead of the internal ones? Tried calling the Panasonic 
>  dealer here but they are of no help.
>  
>  Does some one have the manuals for this?
>  

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RE: KX-T: KXTD1232

2002-01-24 Thread Carl Navarro



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fwd: KX-T: KXTD1232


In a message dated 1/24/02 3:51:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I need help in programming speed dial numbers into the Panasonic
>  KXTD1232. And how do I do the programming to use external music
>  source instead of the internal ones? Tried calling the Panasonic
>  dealer here but they are of no help.
>
>  Does some one have the manuals for this?

I don't want Charles yelling at me again so I won't point out that I have my
manual :-).

This is a 30 second answer so here we go:

System speed dials reside in programming at location 001.
Music source is in location 803.

Getting there might be a problem and YMMV.

Hope this gets you to somewhere.

Carl Navarro

The nicest thing about programming a Panasonic switch.  Once you get into
programming you can look at anything you like and nothing changes AS LONG AS
YOU DON'T PRESS STORE!!!




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KX-T: Stickers

2002-01-24 Thread PMF012498

>  found those entirely useless but I received an awsesome sales kit
>  yesterday that hit the mark. I can remember asking for stickers for the
>  vehicles, equipment & office 6 or 7 years ago.  These appliques all have a
>  new logo for the Communications Systems Division,  It included software to
>  print custom service stickers w/ the logos & your dealer name to put on 
each
>  system...Jim

I hope you are kidding.  HA, HA, HA

That has to be the weakest dealer kit we've received from any manufacturer.  
How about some shirts, hats, pens or something useful.  Our Panasonic direct 
sales rep has provided us with logos and stuff for years for yellow pages.  
We don't need any new crapy stickers. 

Why would we put stickers (that are to small to be seen) on our vehicles of a 
logo that nobody understands?  What is Communications System Division an 
electronic media or advertising company?  They should at least include the 
word phone!

Paul

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KX-T: Speaking of coasters....

2002-01-24 Thread Carl Navarro

Did anyone else notice that the TVS-50/80 only CD acts really stupid under
Acrobat 5?

I can't believe I have 2 bad CD's, but when I tried to read them, the index
shows folders without descriptions.
If I click on the folder it opens the appropriate section of the manual.

Carl Navarro

now all I have to do is remember the manual order :-).





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KX-T: Re: Stickers

2002-01-24 Thread Harry from Select Telecom System

Dang Paul...
I think we INTERPRETED THAT COMMENT with little gratitude..
collectively we can make those logos and definitions a little more
meaningful
to the general public with a little wit and ingenuity


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: KX-T: Stickers


> >  found those entirely useless but I received an awsesome sales kit
> >  yesterday that hit the mark. I can remember asking for stickers for the
> >  vehicles, equipment & office 6 or 7 years ago.  These appliques all
have a
> >  new logo for the Communications Systems Division,  It included software
to
> >  print custom service stickers w/ the logos & your dealer name to put on
> each
> >  system...Jim
>
> I hope you are kidding.  HA, HA, HA
>
> That has to be the weakest dealer kit we've received from any
manufacturer.
> How about some shirts, hats, pens or something useful.  Our Panasonic
direct
> sales rep has provided us with logos and stuff for years for yellow pages.
> We don't need any new crapy stickers.
>
> Why would we put stickers (that are to small to be seen) on our vehicles
of a
> logo that nobody understands?  What is Communications System Division an
> electronic media or advertising company?  They should at least include the
> word phone!
>
> Paul
>
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KX-T: Re: Speaking of coasters....

2002-01-24 Thread Harry from Select Telecom System

Carlyou know i get that too
the work around is close it come later
reopen..and there it is

Thank You,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.select-telecom.com

- Original Message -
From: "Carl Navarro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:37 PM
Subject: KX-T: Speaking of coasters


> Did anyone else notice that the TVS-50/80 only CD acts really stupid under
> Acrobat 5?
>
> I can't believe I have 2 bad CD's, but when I tried to read them, the
index
> shows folders without descriptions.
> If I click on the folder it opens the appropriate section of the manual.
>
> Carl Navarro
>
> now all I have to do is remember the manual order :-).
>
>
>
>
>
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2002-01-24 Thread Hello

> - Original Message -
> From: "Charles P" 
> To: "kxthelp" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:54 PM
> Subject: KX-T: "interactive sales and user guides"
>
>
> > Have any of you dealers out there ever found the "Sales and
> Interactive"...
> > cd's that Panasonic sends out to be of any use?
> > Once again, seems to be produced by people who don't know what it's like
> to
> > sell and use their own equipment, but maybe it's just me.



I have found the Interactve CD to bee quite informative.  It is nice way to inform 
educate new and existing customers the features found on system.  Sending it to the 
existing customer often lead to new sale or system upgrade for new featrure.  Many 
customer say hey I didn't know it could do all that. Or I didn't know Caller ID could 
be used!

What other sales aid that you know of can easily be sent (US mail, bulk) and provide 
detailed info?  I like to know?



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KX-T: Re: Stickers

2002-01-24 Thread Charles Patterson

CSD EMSS and DSHS for sale here!
I can hear the customers pounding on the door...


If they made shirts they would probably have a picture of that ghost figure
on the pocket. On the back it could say "ask me about my DSHS"

Marketing phones does not seem to be one of their strong points.

Try finding the letters KXT on their website www.panasonic.com , not even a
picture of a phone on the main page. Click "Business and Professional
Solutions" and you get to the "communications systems" page. Still no
X-T,  -- Consumer stuff, Audio, Computers, Digital Cameras, Appliances,
Music, aahhh- click on "Telephones and Fax" with a sub menu of "Business and
Home Systems" and you go nowhere, stay at the same page.

So you find the small print "product catalog" and click, still no KX-T! Just
"Digital Super Hybrid Systems" I guess if someone gets that far they'll find
what they're looking for.
Hopefully they will click on the "dealer locater" and be in my neighborhood

cp

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: KX-T: Stickers


> >  found those entirely useless but I received an awsesome sales kit
> >  yesterday that hit the mark. I can remember asking for stickers for the
> >  vehicles, equipment & office 6 or 7 years ago.  These appliques all
have a
> >  new logo for the Communications Systems Division,  It included software
to
> >  print custom service stickers w/ the logos & your dealer name to put on
> each
> >  system...Jim
>
> I hope you are kidding.  HA, HA, HA
>
> That has to be the weakest dealer kit we've received from any
manufacturer.
> How about some shirts, hats, pens or something useful.  Our Panasonic
direct
> sales rep has provided us with logos and stuff for years for yellow pages.
> We don't need any new crapy stickers.
>
> Why would we put stickers (that are to small to be seen) on our vehicles
of a
> logo that nobody understands?  What is Communications System Division an
> electronic media or advertising company?  They should at least include the
> word phone!
>
> Paul
>
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RE: KX-T: Speaking of coasters....

2002-01-24 Thread Bob Guindon

Oh, I don't know.  It's kind of challenging having the navigation pane
structure but no text to go with it...:)


Did anyone else notice that the TVS-50/80 only CD acts really stupid under
Acrobat 5?

I can't believe I have 2 bad CD's, but when I tried to read them, the index
shows folders without descriptions.
If I click on the folder it opens the appropriate section of the manual.

Carl Navarro

now all I have to do is remember the manual order :-).





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KX-T: Re: cd

2002-01-24 Thread Charles Patterson

I'm kind of wishing for a better designed product advertising product.

There are parts of the cd that I would love to give to some customers, but
as a whole it really doesn't fit most of them.   It is good that it can be
sent by mail, ... to pc users, I would rather see a good brochure that
covered the basics of the system and left all the bells and whistles to the
last page. The brochure writers love to give all the neat special features
central space. Most of those items don't mean anything to the customers when
they first look at it... ARS, Log-in/out, Station Lock, Phantom Extensions,
TAFAS...

cp



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