Re: [Ilugc] Badam Halwa of Embedded Systems
> > > > http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/badam.halwa.of.embedded.systems.pdf > > Too bad I missed this talk! > > Great slides. Thanks for putting them up. > +1 ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Badam Halwa of Embedded Systems
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Raja Subramanian wrote: > What's the last slide about? Is that the halwa? :-) That is Thank You in Ascii (Hex representation) Great work Shakti! ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Badam Halwa of Embedded Systems
Hi, --- On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Raja Subramanian wrote: | What's the last slide about? Is that the halwa? :-) \-- Nah! Try: $ man ascii SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] annauniv-tamilnadu.blogspot.com/2009/01/nrcfoss-are-you-there_30.html
Greetings, > I have been requested by Prof C N Krishnan to post the following reply to the > post mentioned in the subject: > > "I coordinate the NRCFOSS Project in Anna University. I certainly > appreciate the interest and concern shown by the author, and I am sure > that lots more can be (should be ) done by us for FOSS promotion. I would > like the author to please let me know how we can contact him/her to see if > he/she has any specific suggestions or advice to give us, and also if > he/she can get involved in our work in what ever possible ways. We at > NRCFOSS certainly value all well meaning criticism and advice.So please do > contact me.My name is C N Krishnan, and my e-mail is cnkrish at au-kbc dot > org" I don't maintain the blog but I have a few suggestions: 1. Actively support teams in all States of India in promoting FOSS. Support would cover resources to train teachers, providing a platform(university-level meetings etc) where we can meet the concerned teachers and convince them. 2. Training of teachers in multiple phases. One time is NOT sufficient. 3. Ensuring that colleges have adequate facilities to implement the subject. 4. For FOSS to develop the local economy must directly be benefited. This can be made possible by encouraging newer entrepreneurs and not just already established ones. 5. Discuss NRCFOSS's plan of action with people doing ground work not just on the mailing list as the mailing list is only a tool for coordination. 6. NRCFOSS should work as a catalyst keeping the promotion of FOSS as the primary goal. Regards, -- Vikram Vincent +919448810822 http://swatantra.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: Mixed environments (Was Re: [Ilugc] fossconf'09 talk slide)
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Ashok Gautham wrote: > Mr. Kenneth, I would appreciate it if you called it > > right name. After all, Micorsoft is not Lord Voldemort (Pardon the old love > "Micorsoft!!!" You made it too ;). Bye, Krishna. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] annauniv-tamilnadu.blogspot.com/2009/01/nrcfoss-are-you-there_30.html
In Karnataka we had a "Say NO to VTU-M$ tie-up". It would have been good had NRCFOSS been an actual signatory apart from verbal support. We shall be continuing this campaign again and I hope that NRCFOSS will play an active role. Vikram Vincent 2009/3/2 Vikram Vincent : > > I don't maintain the blog but I have a few suggestions: > 1. Actively support teams in all States of India in promoting FOSS. > Support would > cover resources to train teachers, providing a > platform(university-level meetings etc) > where we can meet the concerned teachers and convince them. > 2. Training of teachers in multiple phases. One time is NOT sufficient. > 3. Ensuring that colleges have adequate facilities to implement the subject. > 4. For FOSS to develop the local economy must directly be benefited. > This can be > made possible by encouraging newer entrepreneurs and not just already > established ones. > 5. Discuss NRCFOSS's plan of action with people doing ground work not just > on the mailing list as the mailing list is only a tool for coordination. > 6. NRCFOSS should work as a catalyst keeping the promotion of FOSS as > the primary goal. > Regards, -- Vikram Vincent +919448810822 http://swatantra.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] help:internet not working
> only local ip is inging default gate > way dns is not pinging i have hardware checking in ubuntu it is > showing follwing error > > Testing your connection to the Internet: > > ERROR:root:Could not find def gateway info in /proc > most likely the modem is not configured with dynamic ip address (DHCP). what it shows on "route -n" command? -- People who are doing good today are ensuring their happiness for tomorrow. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Raman.P wrote: > > Dear luggies > > FossConf-09 is over. Here are somethings I felt bad Nice to hear that, FOSSConf finished successfully. But what I felt bad is, I could not attend this geat event this time. I congrats all the Linux and Open Source enthusiasts. I hope the Open Source is moving ahead. > > > a.Powerpoint and Windows based slide show from NRCFOSS. I really disappointed this word from Raman. The motivation of FOSSConf is not to concentrate like this. I dont know, why you mentioned this issue in the first. Want to create a big issue? or do you feel this slide hurt you more?. FYI, The author of this topic, Geetha joined with NRCFOSS recently. She is not an regular employee of NRCFOSS, as of now and i thing this is the first talk for her, after she joined with NRCFOSS. None of the regular NRCFOSS employee are familar with her; Even she did not took a talk for local people too. I dont like to insist here like, she is correct. Let her to learn it from her mistake and avoid in future. Otherwise, we will discourage a beginner/resource person on Ruby from this community. And there is no use we are discussing about it here, instead of inform it to her. Any body send a mail to her reg this issue?. I have few queries here. Suppose a person is interested in a open source topic, say example Python. She/he dont bother about whether she/he is going to work in Linux or Windows. Will this open source world accept her/his work?. Or you will denied?. This is wrong?. If you say, ya she/he is wrong, then why this open source world allowed to work all our open source tools in Windows platform like GIMP, Open Office,.etc?. And you decided that this is [(a)] big -ve point and mentioned in first. Why you accepted this topic when she uploaded her .ppt file when she registered?. You had the option to go through the files/content of the author's slides before she/he is going to take that topic. But you did not. A administrator can restrict these issues and the topics Wimax,.etc. Why we did not restrict them before we prepared the schedule?. I am sure, we did not yet defined our proper terms & conditions for Projects/demos/talks. Its some thing like our Administration fault. Not the speaker's mistake. > > b.WiMAX from Bannariamman College. This was on non-free licence. We asked > them to stop demoing and only talk about concept. > c.Online Insurance from SACS Engg college Madurai, which was on Websphere > and DB2. > I didn't want to create a scene by asking the (b) and (c) to get out, > as they were innocent students, who really didn't realise the nuances of > FOSS. We politely told them to talk about the design, concept, alogorithm > etc, duly avoiding the software side. Personally, I dont thing these are the -ve side. Till now, we people are doing mistakes and learn it from them. FOSSConf's target audience are very beginners. There is no meaning, we can expect them immediatly. This is may be the chance to share their knowledge on technologies side. Who knows, may be some one can interested to develop a open source equvalent to WiMax, learn from a non-free license like WiMax. > > > I apologize for the mistakes. We should have taken more care. We passed on > the responsibility to the students team, as TCE team is well aware of FOSS > and its philosophy. Anyway no point in blame game, the mistake is a > mistake.. Let me accept it. We will be stricter next time. > > However, what pained me most was the NRCFOSS slide thing, and unjustifiable > reply on this aspect going on in mailing list. We should learn to come with > the right hat for right show. > Learning to accept our mistakes, introspecting on them will avoid future > mistakes. Justifying them will never help. > > Once again I apologize, Apologize is not the solution for -ve points. We have to recetify it. In the next Fossconf, defined the terms and conditions for Speakers section and add like should upload the slides in .odp/pdf format. Talks and the contents should be related to open source. What about the source code for all project demonstrations? If they upload it before they attend the fossconf, then I suggest you to add this point into +ve side and post that link here. If not, please mention this point as a first point in the -ve side. I have few T&C in my mind as of now. My proposed T&C == Project Demos: * Should be a Open Source license. * Source code should be available in the internet before participate in Fossconf and provide that link, while a participant register for project demo. * Keep the copy of the source code of that project in project demo. * What is your discusiion media: IRC/FORUM/MAILING LIST/Others. Please mention. * Did you got any internship/sponsers from any company/govern.org/college?. Mention. * Already particiapted projects will not be allowed to particiapte again. They can apply for "Demo stall". *... Talks: = * Your talk should be related to open source [I am
[Ilugc] Configuring LAN with BSNL DataOne
Hello, I use a CentOS desktop machine with BSNL (DataOne) to access Internet. I am trying to set up a LAN in my home so that I can access Internet from my Laptop which runs on Ubuntu 8.10. __ __ | | | | ---|192.168.1.30| | | Internet| eth0|LAN | | | 192.52.1.1 |-- | 192.52.1.2 | | | eth1 | | CentOS 5.1 Ubuntu 8.10 As you see, my CentOS machine has got two network cards: eth1 is connected to LAN and eth0 is connected to Internet. I use PPPoE to up the Internet. Below is the ifconfig output of the CentOS machine: [sa...@serein ~]$ /sbin/ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1C:C0:51:E9:3B inet addr:192.168.1.30 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::21c:c0ff:fe51:e93b/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:97415 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:105257 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:68026639 (64.8 MiB) TX bytes:21338514 (20.3 MiB) Interrupt:177 Base address:0xe000 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:21:91:7A:30:92 inet addr:192.52.1.1 Bcast:192.52.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::221:91ff:fe7a:3092/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:555 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:179 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:120632 (117.8 KiB) TX bytes:25261 (24.6 KiB) Interrupt:50 Base address:0x8000 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:235160 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:235160 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:69406123 (66.1 MiB) TX bytes:69406123 (66.1 MiB) ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:117.194.193.143 P-t-P:117.194.192.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1460 Metric:1 RX packets:95264 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:103125 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:65790738 (62.7 MiB) TX bytes:19004078 (18.1 MiB) sit0 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4 NOARP MTU:1480 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) >From the various resources available in the Internet, I tried to enable masquerading: [r...@serein ~]# /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT [r...@serein ~]# /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -j ACCEPT [r...@serein ~]# /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE [r...@serein ~]# service iptables save [r...@serein ~]# service iptables restart But even then, I am not able to ping any outside ip from my laptop. I can connect to my desktop but not beyond it :( Am I missing something? FYI, I have regular Redhat Firewall enabled in my CentOS machine. Not sure if that is creating any problem. Please help. Thanks in advance, -- S. Argue with idiots, and you become an idiot. - PG ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
Prakash A S wrote: I have few queries here. Suppose a person is interested in a open source topic, say example Python. She/he dont bother about whether she/he is going to work in Linux or Windows. Will this open source world accept her/his work?. Or you will denied?. This is wrong?. If you are in a Python Conference, they really don't care whether it is .ppt or .pdf (unless they themselves insist on some format). But it happened during **fossconf** and the format of the presentation was not an acceptable one in that situation. If you say, ya she/he is wrong, then why this open source world allowed to work all our open source tools in Windows platform like GIMP, Open Office,.etc?. Well the problem is not using a Windows machine actually, the problem is the slide show was made using MS Power Point. This is why wise men make their presentations as PDF at least to avoid embarrassment. And you decided that this is [(a)] big -ve point and mentioned in first. Why you accepted this topic when she uploaded her .ppt file when she registered?. If am not wrong, Raman apologized for not taking care of this. Am sure, even the person in question might fail to take their lesson but senior members would be careful next time. You had the option to go through the files/content of the author's slides before she/he is going to take that topic. But you did not. A administrator can restrict these issues and the topics Wimax,.etc. Why we did not restrict them before we prepared the schedule?. I am sure, we did not yet defined our proper terms & conditions for Projects/demos/talks. Its some thing like our Administration fault. Not the speaker's mistake. Well the blame game is going to take us nowhere. As Raman said, mistake has been done, lessons learnt and everything will be kept in mind from now on. Apologize is not the solution for -ve points. We have to recetify it. An apology is way to show that you care and it indeed means a lot for you, though it got missed/messed. Instead of passing the ball around he has taken the responsibility and apologized. It's done and let's appreciate it and move on. -- With Regards, Parthan SR "technofreak" GPG Key 2FF01026 Fingerprint 5707 ECBD 8D8D 8E6E 28F8 DFA5 938B D861 2FF0 1026 Weblog http://blog.technofreak.in ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Configuring LAN with BSNL DataOne
On Monday 02 March 2009 16:08:10 Sahid Khan (সাহিদ) wrote: > FYI, I have regular Redhat Firewall enabled in my CentOS machine. Not > sure if that is creating any problem. Please help. disable the firewall and check - then enable. What about selinux? it is a real pain of redhat machines -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Configuring LAN with BSNL DataOne
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > disable the firewall and check - then enable. What about selinux? it is a real > pain of redhat machines No even disabling the firewall does not help. And, I have kept selinux disabled for sometime. -- S. Argue with idiots, and you become an idiot. - PG ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Parthan SR wrote: > Prakash A S wrote: > >> I have few queries here. Suppose a person is interested in a open source >> topic, say example Python. She/he dont bother about whether she/he is >> going >> to work in Linux or Windows. Will this open source world accept her/his >> work?. Or you will denied?. This is wrong?. >> >> > If you are in a Python Conference, they really don't care whether it is > .ppt or .pdf (unless they themselves insist on some format). But it happened > during **fossconf** and the format of the presentation was not an acceptable > one in that situation. Yes. I also agree that, in fossconf it wont accept from the speaker. But we accepted them to uploaded their .ppt slides. This issue claims that the mistake is also from our side. Allowed them and finally blamed only them is meaning less. > > If you say, ya she/he is wrong, then why this open source world allowed to >> work all our open source tools in Windows platform like GIMP, Open >> Office,.etc?. >> >> > Well the problem is not using a Windows machine actually, the problem is > the slide show was made using MS Power Point. This is why wise men make > their presentations as PDF at least to avoid embarrassment. I have no more words here for why she uploaded .ppt files here. Instead, I interested to know about WHY THIS OPEN SOURCE WORLD ALLOWED TO EXECUTE ALL OUR OPEN TOOLS IN WINDOWS PLATFORM INSTEAD OF ONLY IN LINUX & GIVING OPTION TO WORK ALSO IN WINDOWS?. So that, we can pass the info like dont use WAMP; Use only LAMP,.etc. - A S P ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Configuring LAN with BSNL DataOne
Hello, On Mon, 02 Mar 2009, Sahid Khan (সাহিদ) wrote: > I use a CentOS desktop machine with BSNL (DataOne) to access Internet. > I am trying to set up a LAN in my home so that I can access Internet > from my Laptop which runs on Ubuntu 8.10. Your diagram arrived like this: __ __ | | | | ---|192.168.1.30| | | Internet| eth0|LAN | | | 192.52.1.1 |-- | 192.52.1.2 | | | eth1 | | CentOS 5.1 Ubuntu 8.10 You probably used tabs instead of spaces! As it turns out it may not matter. > As you see, my CentOS machine has got two network cards: eth1 is > connected to LAN and eth0 is connected to Internet. I use PPPoE to up > the Internet. Below is the ifconfig output of the CentOS machine: > [sa...@serein ~]$ /sbin/ifconfig -a > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1C:C0:51:E9:3B > inet addr:192.168.1.30 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:21:91:7A:30:92 > inet addr:192.52.1.1 Bcast:192.52.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol > inet addr:117.194.193.143 P-t-P:117.194.192.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 This output shows that it is "ppp0" which is your WAN port. This seems likely since PPP-over-Ethernet is the way in which most BSNL DataOne links work. This means that your outgoing port is ppp0 *not* eth0. Secondly, (but less importantly) how did you pick 192.52.x.x as your LAN IP address? I don't think this is a good idea. What if there is a machine on the internet with an address in this range to which you want to connect? You should only use the "LAN only" IP addresses like 192.168.x.x for your lan. Something like 192.168.7.x/255.255.255.0 should be adequate for your LAN. Regards, Kapil. -- ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
Prakash A S wrote: Yes. I also agree that, in fossconf it wont accept from the speaker. But we accepted them to uploaded their .ppt slides. This issue claims that the mistake is also from our side. Allowed them and finally blamed only them is meaning less. First, I was no way involved with the conference, so I can't speak for somebody who was responsible. But, remember someone has come forward, accepted the responsibility and even apologized for it. Second, nobody is blaming anyone here. He just took the liberty to mention the mistakes, which was actually done on the organizers end, just to let people know what needs to be kept in mind the next time. I have no more words here for why she uploaded .ppt files here. Instead, I interested to know about WHY THIS OPEN SOURCE WORLD ALLOWED TO EXECUTE ALL OUR OPEN TOOLS IN WINDOWS PLATFORM INSTEAD OF ONLY IN LINUX & GIVING OPTION TO WORK ALSO IN WINDOWS?. So that, we can pass the info like dont use WAMP; Use only LAMP,.etc. I would kindly request you not to shout in the mailing list, even if you wanted to stress on something very much. Secondly, there is a transition process for people who are for years used to working with proprietary OS and Softwares. The process is you first give them tools you use in day-to-day life and once they're comfortable with it, you change the OS on which they work. This helps them not being thrown into too much of wilderness. Secondly, we respect the freedom of choice by people. They might be interested in using FOSS softwares but due to certain reasons might be pinned down to a proprietary OS for time being. Neglecting such users completely serves no purpose of letting them appreciate the benefits of FOSS. Thus, a lot of FOSS softwares also have support for Windows and Mac. Thirdly, which is much similar to the first point, people might like to have an idea of how good FOSS softwares are before they move away from a Proprietary OS and Software completely. Under such cases, having FOSS softwares serves the purpose of giving them a taste of freedom without getting them into too much uncomfortable environment. Again, I would like to remind that the problem was using both a proprietary format using a proprietary software as well as using proprietary operating system (and not just the latter one). I would also like to reiterate, having been in NRCFOSS myself, that they need to have an internal awareness program for new people joining NRCFOSS as many of them tend to be not from a FOSS background and occasionally with no clue of FOSS. (Well, said in the best interests of NRCFOSS). -- With Regards, Parthan SR "technofreak" GPG Key 2FF01026 Fingerprint 5707 ECBD 8D8D 8E6E 28F8 DFA5 938B D861 2FF0 1026 Weblog http://blog.technofreak.in ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
--- On Mon, 2/3/09, Prakash A S wrote: > > Prakash A S wrote: > > > >> I have few queries here. Suppose a person is > interested in a open source > >> topic, say example Python. She/he dont bother > about whether she/he is > >> going > >> to work in Linux or Windows. Will this open source > world accept her/his > >> work?. Or you will denied?. This is wrong?. > >> > >> > > Yes. I also agree that, in fossconf it wont accept from the > speaker. But we > accepted them to uploaded their .ppt slides. This issue > claims that the > mistake is also from our side. Allowed them and finally > blamed only them is > meaning less. > Your are forgetting very important point i.e NRCFOSS. It is National Resource Centre for Free and Open Source Software paid out of taxpayers money, to promote FOSS not individuals. It is acceptable even if an ILUGC volunteer has done it, because it is only voluntary. Whereas anything from NRCFOSS has a duty I repeat DUTY to promote FOSS, not just interest in technical subject. Raman.P Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] annauniv-tamilnadu.blogspot.com/2009/01/nrcfoss-are-you-there_30.html
2009/3/2 Kenneth Gonsalves : > On Monday 02 March 2009 13:58:00 Vikram Vincent wrote: >> In Karnataka we had a "Say NO to VTU-M$ tie-up". It would have been good >> had NRCFOSS been an actual signatory apart from verbal support. > > this does not fall under NRC-FOSS's mandate/terms of reference. I think that ensuring that Universities are convinced of the necessity of FOSS should be a mandate of NRCFOSS. In Karnataka, we have a situation where we need to convince VTU to implement FOSS in education. This requires the training of teachers. The training of teachers would come under the category of 'human resource development'. How can NRCFOSS help us with this? -- Vikram Vincent +919448810822 http://swatantra.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Configuring LAN with BSNL DataOne
On Monday 02 Mar 2009, Sahid Khan (সাহিদ) wrote: snip > > But even then, I am not able to ping any outside ip from my laptop. I > can connect to my desktop but not beyond it :( Am I missing > something? FYI, I have regular Redhat Firewall enabled in my CentOS Besides what other responders have said - have you enabled ip (packet) forwarding in the kernel? -- Arun Khan ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] make: /usr/sbin/apxs: Command not found
hi, I am trying to make mod_tile on debian etch - whatever I do, I keep getting this error message: make: /usr/sbin/apxs: Command not found how do I install apxs on debian etch? -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] make: /usr/sbin/apxs: Command not found
Hello, On Mon, 02 Mar 2009, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > I am trying to make mod_tile on debian etch - whatever I do, I keep getting > this error message: > > make: /usr/sbin/apxs: Command not found > > how do I install apxs on debian etch? You need to install the apache2-xxx-dev package with xxx replaced by "prefork" or "threaded" according as which apache2 version you have installed on your system. A useful tool to find packages containing files is "apt-file" or the online version at packages.debian.org. (The second search field). Of course, these tools would not work directly for you since the available binary is called /usr/bin/apxs2 since it is for apache2. (After the package is installed it probably creates a link called /usr/bin/apxs; this could be considered a bug in apt-file or p.d.org). Regards, Kapil. -- ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] make: /usr/sbin/apxs: Command not found
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > how do I install apxs on debian etch? >From debian maillist: It's in apache2-threaded-dev or apache2-prefork-dev depending on which MPM you're using. The actual command will be called apxs2. Bye :) -- Bharathi S ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] ARM Compiler
Hi, I want to learn embedded in linux with arm controller. Is there any arm based free compiler in linux, which supports arm7 & arm9. And I need some sample codes for that compiler. And Is there any limitations for that compiler. Thanks & Regards, Arun Kumar.R ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] make: /usr/sbin/apxs: Command not found
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > I am trying to make mod_tile on debian etch - whatever I do, I keep getting > this error message: > > make: /usr/sbin/apxs: Command not found > > how do I install apxs on debian etch? You need the "apache-dev" deb installed. Note apache-dev places this file in /usr/bin, and not /usr/sbin. You can search deb package listings using the search facility on the bottom of this page: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages - Raja ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ARM Compiler
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:45 PM, arun kumar wrote: > Hi, > > I want to learn embedded in linux with arm controller. > > Is there any arm based free compiler in linux, which supports arm7 & arm9. > > And I need some sample codes for that compiler. And Is there any > limitations > for that compiler. Go for Scratchbox, its really handy for embedded system and linux. http://www.scratchbox.org/ Bye, Krishna. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] FOSSConf'09 feedback
Hi, In order to make FOSSConf event better in the future, the FOSSConf team is looking for your valuable feedback which will be discussed while organizing the event next year. In order to facilitate it (like last year) we have a feedback form - http://www.fossconf.in/feedback Please feel free to post your feedbacks to help us improve. Thank You. -- Senthil Kumaran S http://www.stylesen.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ARM Compiler
Hi, --- On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 7:15 PM, arun kumar wrote: | Is there any arm based free compiler in linux, which supports arm7 & arm9. \-- You can use gcc for ARM. --- | And I need some sample codes for that compiler. \-- Choose the target hardware first. The products usually ship with documentation, toolchain, and sample code. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ARM Compiler
Hello, On Mon, 02 Mar 2009, arun kumar wrote: > I want to learn embedded in linux with arm controller. You may want to look at the emdebian.org project site. Regards, Kapil. -- ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] annauniv-tamilnadu.blogspot.com/2009/01/nrcfoss-are-you-there_30.html
2009/3/2 Kenneth Gonsalves : > we are working on it, and will shortly be conducting a meeting with > responsible people in VTU and the Karnataka government. We have a mandate to > *promote* foss - we do not have a mandate to oppose universities signing MOU's > with vendors of proprietary software. Previously the powers that be in > Karnataka were very opposed to FOSS Ok. > and the FOSS community in Karnataka was in > disarray. Now a strong FOSS community has emerged and I think that you should not come to these conclusions just from your interactions with a couple of people on online groups and/or by attending the recent meeting at Bangalore. The Free Software Movement or FOSS movement in Karnataka has been making a lot of progress and much before my tenure at NRCFOSS. > the government is also > more favourably inclined towards FOSS, so we have a good climate to work. This needs further assessment. -- Vikram Vincent +919448810822 http://swatantra.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Raman.P wrote: > > > --- On Mon, 2/3/09, Prakash A S wrote: > > Your are forgetting very important point i.e NRCFOSS. > It is National Resource Centre for Free and Open Source Software > paid out of taxpayers money, to promote FOSS not individuals. > It is acceptable even if an ILUGC volunteer has done it, because > it is only voluntary. Whereas anything from NRCFOSS has a duty I repeat > DUTY to promote FOSS, not just interest in technical subject. > The topic has been changed, But for your kind information please see this thread from KG, http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2009-March/046701.html - asp ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Configuring LAN with BSNL DataOne
Hello, 2009/3/2 Kapil Hari Paranjape : > You probably used tabs instead of spaces! As it turns out it may not > matter. Actually no. I used white space only. But Gmail wrapped the text and it got messed up. > This output shows that it is "ppp0" which is your WAN port. This > seems likely since PPP-over-Ethernet is the way in which most BSNL > DataOne links work. > > This means that your outgoing port is ppp0 *not* eth0. That is right. But do I need to mention anything for this in my LAN machine? Currently I have set the gateway of LAN machine(s) as the LAN ip of my gateway machine. > > Secondly, (but less importantly) how did you pick 192.52.x.x as your LAN > IP address? I don't think this is a good idea. What if there is a > machine on the internet with an address in this range to which you > want to connect? You should only use the "LAN only" IP addresses like > 192.168.x.x for your lan. Something like 192.168.7.x/255.255.255.0 > should be adequate for your LAN. Yes that was a mistake. Somehow I thought 192.52.* is also a private IP address! Now I have changed the LAN IP as 10.0.0.1. Actually in this context it is little complex. My CentOS desktop has two private addresses. eth0 is connected to the BSNL modem which creates the network 192.168.1.* and eth1 is connected to LAN with the network 10.0.0.*. But when I start the pppd daemon, bsnl assigns another dynamic public ip to eth0. So essentially eth0 will have two ip addresses when Internet is up. But even now I am not able to solve this problem. Thank you for your kind response. -- S. Argue with idiots, and you become an idiot. - PG ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Re: Configuring LAN with BSNL DataOne (Sahid Khan (?????))
Hi, There are 2 solutions apart from iptables: 1. Hardware solution: Buy a hub (~ Rs. 600 for 8 port I think - dont remember exactly but very cheap) and connect both machines to this. You will have to set them to DHCP and they will get LAN IPs from hub. This way you can add more machines and also will not have issues with any protocol. You can also buy a wireless router which you can plug either to your BSNL modem or the (new) hub - that will give you wireless internet. I have BSNL in my house and they have given me a wireless router - we use 2 laptops(wifi) and a desktop(Lan cable) in our house. 2. Software solution: Run squid on CentOS. It is a fairly easy install and will also provide caching - this will improve your browsing experience. If you are able to ping the Internet from CentOS, just load and configure squid (~1-2 steps) and configure the proxy in your Ubuntu. Squid will also help in terms of content filtering, access control, log of sites visited. Squid will not help with ftp - there used to be a ftp-proxy sometime back. You might have to configure ftp in iptables - which is again a pain. Let me know if you run into issues. I wouldn't recommend iptables as they are pretty complicated even for experienced admins. kc K. C. Ramakrishna www.rknowsys.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Configuring LAN with BSNL DataOne
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Arun Khan wrote: > Besides what other responders have said - have you enabled ip (packet) > forwarding in the kernel? > Yes, I have modified both /etc/sysctl.conf and /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward accordingly. -- S. Argue with idiots, and you become an idiot. - PG ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
Hello Mr.Prakash, > Your are forgetting very important point i.e NRCFOSS. > > It is National Resource Centre for Free and Open Source Software > > paid out of taxpayers money, to promote FOSS not individuals. > > It is acceptable even if an ILUGC volunteer has done it, because > > it is only voluntary. Whereas anything from NRCFOSS has a duty I repeat > > DUTY to promote FOSS, not just interest in technical subject. > > > > The topic has been changed, But for your kind information please see this > thread from KG, > http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2009-March/046701.html > I do not see any change of topic from Raaman's reply. I even requested to put that request from Prof.CNK to that blog for reasons the author of the blog may not be a chennai lug user, and posting it here may be unnoticed by him. Could you please say what do you mean by saying "The topic has been changed" regards Thyagarajan Shanmugham ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
--- On Mon, 2/3/09, Prakash A S wrote: > > The topic has been changed, But for your kind information > please see this > thread from KG, > http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2009-March/046701.html That is different calling for suggestion. Well I have given many already to him, even during fossconf-09. But still NRCFOSS as a team doesn't seem to realise the folly and with this attitude the public money pumped may become waste. Raman.P Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: Mixed environments (Was Re: [Ilugc] fossconf'09 talk slide)
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Krishna wrote: > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Ashok Gautham >wrote: > > > Mr. Kenneth, I would appreciate it if you called it > > > > right name. After all, Micorsoft is not Lord Voldemort (Pardon the old > love > > > "Micorsoft!!!" You made it too ;). > > Bye, > Krishna. > Lol, that was a typo. I realized it after the send :P I should take some time in reading my mail before sending ;) But I suggest this fork of this thread is closed. --- Ashok `ScriptDevil` Gautham ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
Hi Prakash, > I really disappointed this word from Raman. The motivation of FOSSConf is > not to concentrate like this. I dont know, why you mentioned this issue in > the first. Want to create a big issue? or do you feel this slide hurt you > more?. FYI, The author of this topic, Geetha joined with NRCFOSS recently. > She is not an regular employee of NRCFOSS, as of now and i thing this is the > first talk for her, after she joined with NRCFOSS. None of the regular > NRCFOSS employee are familar with her; Even she did not took a talk for > local people too. I dont like to insist here like, she is correct. Let her > to learn it from her mistake and avoid in future. Otherwise, we will > discourage a beginner/resource person on Ruby from this community. And there > is no use we are discussing about it here, instead of inform it to her. Any > body send a mail to her reg this issue?. The motivation of Fossconf ( though I could not attend it ) is to enocurage people to use FOSS and obviously a presentation made on a proprietary software is not acceptable. I agree that it be conveyed to the person who did the presentation and be rectified. I have no idea , why you are taking an apology mail from raman to a personal level( which is clearly visible in the above section_), please don do this. > I have few queries here. Suppose a person is interested in a open source > topic, say example Python. She/he dont bother about whether she/he is going > to work in Linux or Windows. Will this open source world accept her/his > work?. Or you will denied?. This is wrong?. As it has already mentioned , it is not a conference related to a technology which is platform neutral ( like python), ... rather it has been named "FOSSCONF" ( if you could read). > If you say, ya she/he is wrong, then why this open source world allowed to > work all our open source tools in Windows platform like GIMP, Open > Office,.etc?. You are confusing yourselves and probably other newbies on the list with two entirely different aspects. FOSSCONF is different , it is a "conference for FOSS.", where as providing windows compatible open source software is entirely different. Please understand this ... > And you decided that this is [(a)] big -ve point and mentioned in first. Why > you accepted this topic when she uploaded her .ppt file when she > registered?. You had the option to go through the files/content of the > author's slides before she/he is going to take that topic. But you did not. > A administrator can restrict these issues and the topics Wimax,.etc. Why we > did not restrict them before we prepared the schedule?. I am sure, we did > not yet defined our proper terms & conditions for Projects/demos/talks. Its > some thing like our Administration fault. Not the speaker's mistake. Raman did not say it is the speaker's mistake , he was talking about entirely different things, again don't take it personally, ... > Apologize is not the solution for -ve points. We have to recetify it. In the > next Fossconf, defined the terms and conditions for Speakers section and add > like should upload the slides in .odp/pdf format. Talks and the contents > should be related to open source. yes agree that apologizing is not the "only" solution, I really appreciate the tips you have given. But we should on the list appreciate the fact that Raman came out to apoligize for the mishaps and took responsibility for them. Couldn't you have given the tips in a more plainer language ?? > What about the source code for all project demonstrations? If they upload it > before they attend the fossconf, then I suggest you to add this point into > +ve side and post that link here. I clearly missed your point here ( there must be something very intellectual about it) , can you please explain ??? Cheers Satish -- http://satish.playdrupal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
> I have no more words here for why she uploaded .ppt files here. Instead, I > interested to know about WHY THIS OPEN SOURCE WORLD ALLOWED TO EXECUTE ALL > OUR OPEN TOOLS IN WINDOWS PLATFORM INSTEAD OF ONLY IN LINUX & GIVING OPTION > TO WORK ALSO IN WINDOWS?. Whom are you angry on , the open source world, Raman , or everyone else replying on the list ?? ( I would like an answer here :)) > So that, we can pass the info like dont use WAMP; Use only LAMP,.etc. crap , you don't really understand FOSS or the Open Source principles is it ??, Windows or Linux is immaterial to the use of the *AMP stack, its your choice. ;-) Cheers Satish -- http://satish.playdrupal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ARM Compiler
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:45 PM, arun kumar wrote: > I want to learn embedded in linux with arm controller. Do you have prior experience in Programming hardware? Else I would suggest you start with smaller MicroController and get used to programming hardware first and gradually go up the ladder. Starting with ARM is not exactly something I would recommend/suggest. > Is there any arm based free compiler in linux, which supports arm7 & arm9. http://www.gnuarm.com/ (Tools also On emdebian repos) > And I need some sample codes for that compiler. And Is there any limitations > for that compiler. Sample code? There is always the standard Hello World that you can write and try it out to see your setup is working fine. Limitations of the compiler is very abstract thing. It depends on a lot of factors and unless you want to dig deep into tool chain development and stuff, I don't think one generally need to worry at this factor (especially if you are just beginning to do embedded development) You can check out http://fpga4u.epfl.ch/wiki/FPGA4U_Description (it costs about 4500 INR and also with additional cost of say 1000 INR you get an ARM board extension) You can do a lot of stuff with this student board. Not a promotion, but I can try to get one down if you need it when I come to India (I am not confirming it though as I need to check with a lot of folks) Regards, Aanjhan ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: Mixed environments (Was Re: [Ilugc] fossconf'09 talk slide)
On 3/1/09, Ashok Gautham wrote: > That-Which-Must-Not-Be-Named Top notch --- Esse Quam Videri krisk.wordpress.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Re: Configuring LAN with BSNL DataOne (Sahid Khan (?????))
Please find correction below. Hi, There are 2 solutions apart from iptables: 1. Hardware solution: Buy a hub (~ Rs. 600 for 8 port I think - dont remember exactly but very cheap) and connect both machines to this. You will have to set them to DHCP and they will get LAN IPs from hub. This way you can add more machines and also will not have issues with any protocol. You can also buy a wireless router which you can plug either to your BSNL modem or the (new) hub - that will give you wireless internet. I have BSNL in my house and they have given me a wireless router - we use 2 laptops(wifi) and a desktop(Lan cable) in our house. Correction: You don't get the LAN IPs from hub - what I meant was that you will get the IPs from modem but connecting via hub is equivalent to connecting directly to modem. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Badam Halwa of Embedded Systems
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > > http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/badam.halwa.of.embedded.systems.pdf > Having not attended the lecture (or followed any earlier communication about it), I am having trouble figuring out what the presentation is about. Can you explain in a few sentences what the talk was about? -Karra ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
Hi, I gave my feedback in http://www.fossconf.in/feedback, I stated something like "some people in NRC foss used proprietary ppt slides". After 10 minutes i got a private mail from Mr.Kenneth Gonsalves asking that "how many of the numerous nrcfoss people's slides were in ppt format?" Then i replied "As far as i know its 1" Again in 10 mins i got another mail from Mr.kenneth Gonsalves "wow! you know how to count?? do you also know that 'people' is plural? So when you said nrcfoss people are producing proprietary slides you are telling lies? yes or no? or *has someone paid you to do propaganda*?" Then i apologized for using plural there "some people" and sent him a mail. "Well, i apologize for the plural. Why don't you accept and apologize for using a silde which is in proprietary format? Your are a really sick person.who has to pay me to expose something bad? Is NRCFOSS worth it?" He kept spamming me until i stopped :( Is this a way they accept feedback? These guys are out of control. They have not no culture, they dont even have the courage to apologize. So if you people send any feedback there dont criticise NRC-FOSS, otherwise Mr.Kenneth Gonsalves will spam you in private. Regards Arun SAG -- A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows. <-Fighting 4 Freedom-> ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
Hi , >>"wow! you know how to count?? do you also know that 'people' is plural? So when you said nrcfoss people are producing proprietary slides you are telling lies? yes or no? or *has someone paid you to do propaganda*?" I am curious to know how much copies of microsoft powerpoint bought by NRCFOSS till this day. Probably obtaining this answer may be helpful in giving a ball pot of how many slides would have been produced [It is not a good assumption that having bought say X=(assuming 5) copies of microsoft office to produce one slide presentation].Again approaching the issue instead of taking it personal is much appreciated. Thanks and regards Thyagarajan Shanmugham ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் < citizenof...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi , > I am curious to know how much copies of microsoft powerpoint bought by > NRCFOSS till this day. > Sorrỵ... it is not just microsoft powerpoint . i was mentioning about microsoft office packagẹ. Thanks and regards Thyagarajan Shanmugham ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Configuring LAN with BSNL DataOne
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Sahid Khan (সাহিদ) wrote: > 2009/3/2 Kapil Hari Paranjape : >> This output shows that it is "ppp0" which is your WAN port. This >> seems likely since PPP-over-Ethernet is the way in which most BSNL >> DataOne links work. >> >> This means that your outgoing port is ppp0 *not* eth0. > > That is right. But do I need to mention anything for this in my LAN > machine? Currently I have set the gateway of LAN machine(s) as the LAN > ip of my gateway machine. Actually this solved the problem. I just replaced all eth0 with ppp0 in my previous commands. And it started working. I had to make the LAN interface as trusted device in the gateway machine though. For some strange reason "Trusted devices" option has been disappeared from "System -> Administration -> Security Level and Firewall" in CentOS 5. Fortunately this particular option was available in the text mode equivalent (system-config-securitylevel-tui). I can now connect to Internet from my laptop with other regular firewalls being enabled. Thank you very much for your help. -- S. Argue with idiots, and you become an idiot. - PG ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: Configuring LAN with BSNL DataOne (Sahid Khan (?????))
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:26 PM, K.C. Ramakrishna wrote: > Hi, > > There are 2 solutions apart from iptables: Thank you for your suggestion. As I have already posted in the other thread that I could finally make it work. So I'll perhaps keep this experiment in abeyance for some time. But yes your ideas seem to be interesting. Maybe I'll try it sometime. Thank you. -- S. Argue with idiots, and you become an idiot. - PG ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Badam Halwa of Embedded Systems
Hi, --- On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Sriram Karra wrote: | Having not attended the lecture (or followed any earlier communication about | it), I am having trouble figuring out what the presentation is about. Can | you explain in a few sentences what the talk was about? \-- It addresses the "essence" or basic concepts in embedded systems in a dramatic way. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Badam Halwa of Embedded Systems
On Monday 02 March 2009 23:00:17 Sriram Karra wrote: > > http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/badam.halwa.of.embedde > >d.systems.pdf > > Having not attended the lecture (or followed any earlier communication > about it), I am having trouble figuring out what the presentation is about. > Can you explain in a few sentences what the talk was about? embedded programming -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On Monday 02 March 2009 23:10:41 Arun SAG wrote: > I gave my feedback in http://www.fossconf.in/feedback, I stated something > like "some people in NRC foss used proprietary ppt slides". > > After 10 minutes i got a private mail from Mr.Kenneth Gonsalves > asking that "how many of the numerous nrcfoss people's slides were in ppt > format?" you got a private mail from me because you *sent* a private mail to me. -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
This is childish and insane. Who started first? I just sent the feedback in http://www.fossconf.in/feedback. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Monday 02 March 2009 23:10:41 Arun SAG wrote: > > I gave my feedback in http://www.fossconf.in/feedback, I stated > something > > like "some people in NRC foss used proprietary ppt slides". > > > > After 10 minutes i got a private mail from Mr.Kenneth Gonsalves > > asking that "how many of the numerous nrcfoss people's slides were in ppt > > format?" > > you got a private mail from me because you *sent* a private mail to me. > -- > regards > kg > http://lawgon.livejournal.com > ___ > To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with > "unsubscribe " > in the subject or body of the message. > http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc > -- A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows. <-Fighting 4 Freedom-> ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
Huh, There is a possibility that the presenter would have prepared the presentation using OO but saved it as ppt for inter-compatibility reasons. Still that could have avoided. Chod dho Ise Idhar! -- ஆமாச்சு ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் < citizenof...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Mr.Prakash, > > > Your are forgetting very important point i.e NRCFOSS. > > > It is National Resource Centre for Free and Open Source Software > > > paid out of taxpayers money, to promote FOSS not individuals. > > > It is acceptable even if an ILUGC volunteer has done it, because > > > it is only voluntary. Whereas anything from NRCFOSS has a duty I repeat > > > DUTY to promote FOSS, not just interest in technical subject. > > > > > > > The topic has been changed, But for your kind information please see this > > thread from KG, > > http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2009-March/046701.html > > > > I do not see any change of topic from Raaman's reply. I even requested to > put that request from Prof.CNK to that blog for reasons the author of the > blog may not be a chennai lug user, and posting it here may be unnoticed by > him. Could you please say what do you mean by saying "The topic has been > changed" Yes. Mr.Thyagarajan. He mentioned about the importance and duty of NRCFOSS. Sorry, I did not defined the importance and duty of NRCFOSS. The right person is here, http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2009-March/046701.html I guess, you are the person asked the RTI for NRCFOSS activities, early?. May be 6 months back i think. I am not sure. Its somthing like, you are knocking the door for oppertunity. Whenever the door opened, no one is come in-front for discussion. This time also he replied. I am eagerly waiting for how many people will response for his reply. Coz this March, NRCFOSS going to switch over into 2nd phase. I hope, FOSS will helpful to improve our education here. I am seeing, a ITI fellow learnt a single subject and creating a workshop by his own. But a engineering student learning 57 subjects in 4 years and finally he cant able to create a single job for him. Finally he is ready to work without salary also. Reg the blog, I accept all your thoughts. if his/her thought is right, then he/she should disclose her/his name first. No need to reply for any annoynomus blogs. In India, every Indian have the rights to ask questions. Because as Raman told, we [include me] paid our TAX money and NRCFOSS running by our tax money. Any one can apply for RTI. If ILUG is feel we did not nothing; Then you can come here & discuss about how we can do further reg the FOSS promotion. Prof is ready to discuss. But no one is ready here. -ASP ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
as a member of NRCFOSS , and presumably with some responsibility for our team, I apologise for the use of powerpoint in geetha's presentation. attn.: prakash : i agree with your statement that she is new to our team, but the collective responsibility is ours. i don't think your long justification/argument is necessary. i am sorry that i am saying so in a public mailing list. we are working in an open source environment where the bugs could be pointed out, accepted that they exist, and weeded out. Let us take into our stride the periodic comments about tax payers' money and responsibility, etc. We have to take the correct path -- not because of we are "bonded" to FOSS as members of NRCFOSS, but because we are committed to FOSS as much as any other FOSS enthusiast. It is a matter of freedom and responsibility. Each of us may have our own views and methodologies about FOSS promotion, and use of proprietary software. The point here is, the occasion is fossconf -- our own event to show case FOSS. Can't we say what we want to say with FOSS tools alone? Srinivasan, NRCFOSS. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On 3/2/09, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் wrote: > > Hi , > > I am curious to know how much copies of microsoft powerpoint bought by > NRCFOSS till this day. Probably obtaining this answer may be helpful in > giving a ball pot of how many slides would have been produced [It is not a > good assumption that having bought say X=(assuming 5) copies of microsoft > office to produce one slide presentation]. zero copies. (of course, au-kbc has its own MS Office copies). Again approaching the issue > instead of taking it personal is much appreciated. i presume this sentiment will be preserved across the board (to and fro). Srinivasan, NRCFOSS. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] samba printer connectivity
Dear All, I need your help I have a problem in samba printer connectivity i installed cups and samba config files locally cups printer connected to linux box able to take printout but not able to take connectiviy via samba connection i send config files for cups and smb My problem is I try to connect the printer from windows box printer installed driver files shown the path i kept the drivers I installed the drivers i given the print to printer it fall in spool file with count number shown but not taken printout my printer connected to linux box is usb connection its a really helpful if i fix this one please give me a suggestion where can i concentrate more than a week i try it with Regards, Mohan smb.conf Description: Binary data cupsd.conf Description: Binary data ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] samba printer connectivity
Dear All, I need your help I have a problem in samba printer connectivity i installed cups and samba config files locally cups printer connected to linux box able to take printout but not able to take connectiviy via samba connection i send config files for cups and smb My problem is I try to connect the printer from windows box printer installed driver files shown the path i kept the drivers I installed the drivers i given the print to printer it fall in spool file with count number shown but not taken printout my printer connected to linux box is usb connection its a really helpful if i fix this one please give me a suggestion where can i concentrate more than a week i try it with Regards, Mohan ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] samba printer connectivy prb
Dear All, I need your help I have a problem in samba printer connectivity i installed cups and samba config files locally cups printer connected to linux box able to take printout but not able to take connectiviy via samba connection i send config files for cups and smb My problem is I try to connect the printer from windows box printer installed driver files shown the path i kept the drivers I installed the drivers i given the print to printer it fall in spool file with count number shown but not taken printout my printer connected to linux box is usb connection its a really helpful if i fix this one please give me a suggestion where can i concentrate more than a week i try it with Regards, Moha ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] கட்டற்ற மென ்பொருள்கள் திர ுவிழா 2009
தியாகராசா பொறியியல் கல்லூரி, மதுரையில் கட்டற்ற மென்பொருள்கள் திருவிழா 2009 கடந்த பிப்ரவரி 27 முதல் மார்ச் 1 வரை நடைபெற்றது. இவ்விழாவில் பல இடங்களிலிருந்து கல்லூரி மற்றும் பள்ளி மாணவர்கள் ஆயிரத்திற்கும் மேற்பட்டோர் கலந்துகொண்டனர். உபுண்டு தமிழ் குழுமம் சார்பில் திரு. பத்மநாதன் மற்றும் திரு. அமாச்சு ஆகியோர் செயல்விளக்கக்கூடம் ( Demo Stall) அமைத்து விழிப்புணர்வை ஏற்படுத்தினர். உபுண்டு தமிழ் குழுமம் பார்வையாளர்களுக்கு தமிழில் லினக்ஸ் நிறுவுதல் மற்றும் பயன்படுத்துதல் ஆகியவற்றை விளக்கி, உபுண்டு குறுவட்டுக்கள் மற்றும் பெடோரா பெருவட்டுக்களை வழங்கினர். திரு. பாரதி அவர்கள் 'கட்டற்ற மென்பொருள்கள்' என்ற தமிழ் நூலின் சாராம்சத்தை பார்வையாளர்களுக்கு விளக்கினார். லினக்ஸ் பாஸ்கர் பார்வையாளர்களுக்கு பெடோராவில் தமிழ் மொழிசார்பை தனது கணினியின் மூலம் செயல்விளக்கம் அளித்தார். இவ்விழாவில் செயல்விளக்கக்கூடம் அமைத்துத்தந்த திருவிழா அமைப்பாளர்களுக்கும், தியாகராசா பொறியியல் கல்லூரிக்கும் மனமார்ந்த நன்றி! விழாவில் கவர்ந்தது: 1. டி.வி.எஸ் மெட்ரிகுலேஷன் பள்ளி மாணவ, மாணவியர் செயல்விளக்கத்தில் கல்லூரி மாணவ, மாணவியரைவிட சிறப்பாக விளங்கினர். 2. சென்னை லினக்ஸ் பயனாளர் குழு இவ்விழாவில் கல்லூரி மற்றும் பள்ளி மாணவர்களை ஊக்குவிக்கும் பொருட்டு சன்மானங்களை வழங்கினர். 3. தானியங்கி தமிழ் வார்த்தை சொதனை பொதி ( Tamil Spell Checker), ஒரே கணினியின் மைய செயலகம் மூலம் பல இருக்கைகளில் லினக்ஸ் (Multi seat Linux using single CPU) போன்ற திட்டவெளிப்பாடுகள் ( Project Presentations) பார்வையாளர்களை மிகவும் கவர்ந்தது. பத்மநாதன் -- Padhu, Pollachi. Knowledge is power ! "Be an Energy (Opti)mizer - Use Electricity Wiser" ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] samba printer connectivy prbm
Dear All, I need your help I have a problem in samba printer connectivity i installed cups and samba config files locally cups printer connected to linux box able to take printout but not able to take connectiviy via samba connection i send config files for cups and smb My problem is I try to connect the printer from windows box printer installed driver files shown the path i kept the drivers I installed the drivers i given the print to printer it fall in spool file with count number shown but not taken printout my printer connected to linux box is usb connection its a really helpful if i fix this one please give me a suggestion where can i concentrate more than a week i try it with Regards, Mohan ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
*>>*Prof is ready to discuss. But no one is ready here. Excuse me, Mr.Kenneth has asked me questions like* "has someone paid you to do propaganda*?" for using a plural instead of singular. If you keep irritating people with bad questions like this for pointing out something bad Who will come forward and disclose his/her name? First i am asking you can you answer publicly what he/her mentioned on that blog? Regards Arun SAG -- A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows. <-Fighting 4 Freedom-> ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
> > > > What about the source code for all project demonstrations? If they upload > it > > before they attend the fossconf, then I suggest you to add this point > into > > +ve side and post that link here. > I clearly missed your point here ( there must be something very > intellectual about it) , can you please explain ??? I have already posted about this topic before FOSSconf. And in a thread I remember that, the project demonstration should be available in the internet for public access. My intention is, if the project will be available to download for public, other students and enthusiast can utilize the code and enhance the projects. -asp ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
> I really disappointed this word from Raman. The motivation of FOSSConf is > not to concentrate like this. I dont know, why you mentioned this issue in > the first. because a law maker has turned to a law breaker. > Regards, > -A S P > ___ > To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with > "unsubscribe " > in the subject or body of the message. > http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc > -- Thanks a lot - http://ubuntuslave.blogspot.com/ ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Satish Eerpini wrote: > > I have no more words here for why she uploaded .ppt files here. Instead, > I > > interested to know about WHY THIS OPEN SOURCE WORLD ALLOWED TO EXECUTE > ALL > > OUR OPEN TOOLS IN WINDOWS PLATFORM INSTEAD OF ONLY IN LINUX & GIVING > OPTION > > TO WORK ALSO IN WINDOWS?. > > Whom are you angry on , the open source world, Raman , or everyone > else replying on the list ?? ( I would like an answer here :)) Certainly not about any one. But discouraged by the topic we are talking about. > > > > So that, we can pass the info like dont use WAMP; Use only LAMP,.etc. You split this line. So it provides different meaning. > > > crap , you don't really understand FOSS or the Open Source principles > is it ??, Windows or Linux is immaterial to the use of the *AMP stack, > its your choice. ;-) Yes. Its our choice. She selected the WAMP and took some screen shots and added it her slides. We cant say dont use WAMP; Instead we could not allowed the author to take/continue the talk. We can start a another thread and argue, whether I under stand the concept of FOSS or not...lol -asp ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Re: ARM Compiler
arun kumar writes: > I want to learn embedded in linux with arm controller. > > Is there any arm based free compiler in linux, which supports arm7 & arm9. > > And I need some sample codes for that compiler. And Is there any limitations > for that compiler. The tutorial at http://www.bravegnu.org/arm-prog/arm-prog.html describes ARM programming with the GNU Toolchain. The tutorial also shows how the programs can be tested in an ARM system simulated using Qemu. Note that the tutorial is under development and this is just a draft version. Regards, Vijay ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
Dear Mr.Prakash, >>I guess, you are the person asked the RTI for NRCFOSS activities, early?. May be 6 months back i think. I am not sure. Its somthing like, you are knocking the door for oppertunity. Yes, i am the same person, I who wrote mail to Prof.CNK. I expressed my Anguish with Prof. CNK by then. I do agree and apologize , i cant find time in pursing in RTI intention . >> Whenever the door opened, no one is come in-front for discussion. You must be aware we are doing foss activity as a voluntary gesture not a commitment duty which is assigned to you, i would further reiterate that you have the moral responsibility in reaching us, rather than expecting us to reach your desk because we are confined by paramaters like 'time' .IMO, A common ground to discuss this will be across the table in the canteen of IIT after our monthly meet, more friendlier and open hearted discussion. After all we are fellow fossians and not enemies.. >>From Arun: If you keep irritating people with bad questions like this for pointing out something bad Who will come forward and disclose his/her name? First i am asking you can you answer publicly what he/her mentioned on that blog? I understand the above point by corroborating with my past and hope many in the list will agree with me that when luggers question NRCFOSS, i see a state of denial from the TEAM NRCFOSS, and instead of talking about the issue, we are vehimently targetted personally.So, my life proceeds doing FOSS activity by making the first and foremost condition that all my activity will have no association with NRCFOSS unless i see a visible change in the team's attitude. >>From Srinivasn Soundrarajan ...as a member of NRCFOSS , and presumably with some responsibility for our team, I apologise for the use of powerpoint in geetha's presentation. i read a quote some where "An apology is a good way to have the last word". ~Author Unknown regards Thyagarajan Shanmugham. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On Tuesday 03 March 2009 11:40:04 Arun SAG wrote: > *>>*Prof is ready to discuss. But no one is ready here. > Excuse me, Mr.Kenneth has asked me questions like* "has someone paid you to > do propaganda*?" for using a plural instead of singular. There were 8 talks by NRC-FOSS people at the conference. *One* talk had ppt slides. *All* the others used foss tools for presentation. Yet the accusations on the list are 'NRC-FOSS people are using proprietary tools for presentation'. One person != people. If it had been correctly stated that *one* person had used ppt, I would have immedietly apologised on behalf of NRC-FOSS and the matter would have been closed. But when people knowing that only one person did this still distort facts by using the plural, I am entitled to read some ulterior motive in this. -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Firefox problem
Hi, I have an issue with Firefox version 3.0b5. It keeps closing unexpectedly every few minutes. I have disabled addons. Tried to open it in safe mode but still the problem persists. Can anyone tell me how to fix this. Thanks in advance. Padma Priya V ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
for new people joining NRCFOSS as many of them tend to be not from a > FOSS background and occasionally with no clue of FOSS. (Well, said in the > best interests of NRCFOSS). Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background for FOSS development ? NRCFOSS has been promoting FOSS for a long while among the colleges isn't it ? why don't they recruit students who are well trained in FOSS ? -- Thanks a lot - http://ubuntuslave.blogspot.com/ ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Arun SAG wrote: > This is childish and insane. Who started first? I just sent the feedback in > http://www.fossconf.in/feedback. Dont make Private Mails public. Period. Request to end this conversation and have better constructive conversation on next steps. Thanks in advance. Aanjhan ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] கட்டற் ற மென்பொ ருள்கள ் திருவி ழா 2009
On செ, 2009-03-03 at 05:59 +, பத்மநாதன் wrote: > உபுண்டு > தமிழ் குழுமம் பார்வையாளர்களுக்கு தமிழில் லினக்ஸ் நிறுவுதல் மற்றும் > பயன்படுத்துதல் ஆகியவற்றை விளக்கி, உபுண்டு குறுவட்டுக்கள் மற்றும் பெடோரா > பெருவட்டுக்களை வழங்கினர். குறுகிய காலகட்டத்திற்குள் எங்களை பெடோரா பெருவட்டுக்கள் வந்தடைய உதவிய பெடோரா இந்தியக் குழுமத்திற்கும் ராகுல் சுந்தரத்திற்கு எங்களது நன்றியினை தெரிவித்துக் கொள்கிறோம். We thank Fedora Indian Community/ Rahul for sending us Fedora DVD in time, which made this possible. -- ஆமாச்சு signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Firefox problem
> > > I have an issue with Firefox version 3.0b5. It keeps closing unexpectedly > every few minutes. I have disabled addons. Tried to open it in safe mode > but > still the problem persists. Can anyone tell me how to fix this. try with new profile, launch from command line firefox -ProfileManager ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] samba printer connectivy prbm
--- On Tue, 3/3/09, mettur salem wrote: > From: mettur salem > Subject: [Ilugc] samba printer connectivy prbm > To: ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in > Date: Tuesday, 3 March, 2009, 11:29 AM > Dear All, > > I need your help > I have a problem in samba printer connectivity > i installed cups and samba config files > locally cups printer connected to linux box able to take > printout > but not able to take connectiviy via samba connection > i send config files for cups and smb > > My problem is > >I try to connect the printer from windows box >printer installed driver files shown the path i kept the > drivers > I installed the drivers i given the print to printer it > fall in > spool file with count number shown but not taken printout > > my printer connected to linux box is usb connection Is there any error in /var/log/cups/error_log file? Raman.P Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Firefox problem
On Tuesday 03 March 2009 12:14:33 padma priya wrote: > I have an issue with Firefox version 3.0b5. It keeps closing unexpectedly > every few minutes. what distro? how did you install firefox? -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On Tuesday 03 March 2009 12:15:01 sivaji j.g wrote: > NRCFOSS has been promoting FOSS for a long while among the colleges isn't > it ? why don't they recruit students who are well trained in FOSS ? because the budget is not enough to pay the salaries that they can get outside - and even the people we train leave the moment they get a good job. And they all get good jobs as there is a good market for people well trained in FOSS. In the new phase we have some more budget for salaries, so we hope to get better people. -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Firefox problem
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:14 PM, padma priya wrote: > Hi, > I have an issue with Firefox version 3.0b5. It keeps closing unexpectedly > every few minutes. I have disabled addons. Tried to open it in safe mode > but > still the problem persists. Can anyone tell me how to fix this. > if you don't want your settings, you can try renaming ~/.mozilla to something else. if the problem was with your profile, this would fix it Sahas ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Srinivasan Sundararajan wrote: > as a member of NRCFOSS , and presumably with some responsibility for our > team, I apologise for the use of powerpoint in geetha's presentation. > attn.: prakash : i agree with your statement that she is new to our team, > but the collective responsibility is ours. i don't think your long > justification/argument is necessary. i am sorry that i am saying so in a > public mailing list. I agree with you, sir. We have to instruct them before they uploaded the presentation. I discussed with her reg this issue. She prepared her in OO; But saved as a ppt format. And upto my knowledge, in NRCFOSS we dont have any interaction with new comers reg how to follow the FOSS culture. I discussed with her reg this issue. She prepared her in OO; But saved as a ppt format. I would like to clear them that, we dont have any idea to irritate the FOSS culture and FOSSConf objectives. > we are working in an open source environment where the > bugs could be pointed out, accepted that they exist, and weeded out. Let us > take into our stride the periodic comments about tax payers' money and > responsibility, etc. We have to take the correct path -- not because of we > are "bonded" to FOSS as members of NRCFOSS, but because we are committed to > FOSS as much as any other FOSS enthusiast. It is a matter of freedom and > responsibility. > > Each of us may have our own views and methodologies about FOSS promotion, > and use of proprietary software. The point here is, the occasion is > fossconf > -- our own event to show case FOSS. Can't we say what we want to say with > FOSS tools alone? > I have been with NRCFOSS since 2006 April. Till now we did not discuraged any LUG communities in FOSS promotion and we would also like to interact with them reg the FOSS promotion. We are always like to interact with LUG in all the workshop. Raman & Bharathi know well about it. But I am seeing, for last 2 years, whenever we participated & doing some workshops along with ILUG-C communitiy people, they are always talking about TAX and irrtate NRCFOSS members. I have noted down this activity from Raman itself, in Trichy, Anna university, trip. This activites wont helpful for us to encarage the FOSS promotion along with ILUGC. I dont know, why they are targetting NRCFOSS members instead of NRCFOSS org?. -asp ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Firefox problem
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:14 PM, padma priya wrote: > Hi, > I have an issue with Firefox version 3.0b5. It keeps closing unexpectedly > every few minutes. I have disabled addons. Tried to open it in safe mode but > still the problem persists. Can anyone tell me how to fix this. Upgrading Firefox to stable version may solve the problem. Which Distribution are you using? -- With Regards Abhishek Amberkar Learn to appreciate a beauty within... ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Great Help to our Society
Dear Ilug and Team Members, I Thank all of your Freedom Activity towards the opensource I Find the Fedora Tamil Pdf it is Really Useful for the Beginners and also working People I heartly Congrats the people who given a Great Returns to this society to move all people from the jail of Paided Software Again I congrats Thanks a lot for your Service open source lover Mettur Mohan On செ, 2009-03-03 at 05:59 +, பத்மநாதன் wrote: > உபுண்டு > தமிழ் குழுமம் பார்வையாளர்களுக்கு தமிழில் லினக்ஸ் நிறுவுதல் மற்றும் > பயன்படுத்துதல் ஆகியவற்றை விளக்கி, உபுண்டு குறுவட்டுக்கள் மற்றும் பெடோரா > பெருவட்டுக்களை வழங்கினர். குறுகிய காலகட்டத்திற்குள் எங்களை பெடோரா பெருவட்டுக்கள் வந்தடைய உதவிய பெடோரா இந்தியக் குழுமத்திற்கும் ராகுல் சுந்தரத்திற்கு எங்களது நன்றியினை தெரிவித்துக் கொள்கிறோம். We thank Fedora Indian Community/ Rahul for sending us Fedora DVD in time, which made this possible. -- ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On 3/3/09, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் wrote: Dear Mr.Prakash, > > You must be aware we are doing foss activity as a voluntary gesture not a > commitment duty which is assigned to you, i would further reiterate that > you > have the moral responsibility in reaching us, rather than expecting us to > reach your desk because we are confined by paramaters like 'time' .IMO, A > common ground to discuss this will be across the table in the canteen of > IIT > after our monthly meet, more friendlier and open hearted discussion. After > all we are fellow fossians and not enemies.. I generally avoid reading too much meaning in honest and frank comments. However, doesn't one get a feeling that a volunteer is "free" and the employee is "bonded" and should "report"? >>From Arun: If you keep irritating people with bad questions like this for > > I understand the above point by corroborating with my past and hope many in > the list will agree with me that when luggers question NRCFOSS, i see a > state of denial from the TEAM NRCFOSS, and instead of talking about the > issue, we are vehimently targetted personally. Which issues have been avoided? There can be and will be difference of opinion how one contributes to FOSS. Can you please elaborate on the "state of denial from the TEAM NRCFOSS"? I do recall that one issue you had raised was given a response -- not a denial but statement of facts. As to the "targetted personally" -- why are you attributing to "Team NRCFOSS"? haven't we seen enough flame wars and nasty comments, and considered them as coming from individuals rather than "Team LUG"? So, my life proceeds doing > FOSS activity by making the first and foremost condition that all my > activity will have no association with NRCFOSS unless i see a visible > change > in the team's attitude. You are entitled to your personal opinion and judgement. My personal feeling is that you are wrong in your judgement -- most likely due to insufficient data at your disposal. As for lack of "time", everyone has one's own time constraints. >>From Srinivasn Soundrarajan ...as a member of NRCFOSS , and presumably > > with some responsibility for our team, I apologise for the use of > powerpoint > in geetha's presentation. > > > i read a quote some where > "An apology is a good way to have the last word". ~Author Unknown thanks -- of course, the apology has to be sincere, and I do hope you take my apology that way. regards Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Firefox problem
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Sahasranaman MS wrote: > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:14 PM, padma priya wrote: > >> Hi, >> I have an issue with Firefox version 3.0b5. It keeps closing unexpectedly >> every few minutes. I have disabled addons. Tried to open it in safe mode >> but >> still the problem persists. Can anyone tell me how to fix this. >> > > if you don't want your settings, you can try renaming ~/.mozilla to > something else. if the problem was with your profile, this would fix it > I have firefox 3.0.b5 installed on Debian Etch. Facing same problem and above solution didn't solve it. -- With Regards Abhishek Amberkar Learn to appreciate a beauty within... ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
-- On Tue, 3/3/09, Prakash A S wrote: > Yes. Its our choice. She selected the WAMP and took some > screen shots and > added it her slides. We cant say dont use WAMP; Instead we > could not allowed > the author to take/continue the talk. > We can start a another thread and argue, whether I under > stand the concept > of FOSS or not...lol Here, the individual has no unlimited freedom. You are representing an organisation. You should abide by the motive of the organisation. Had she simply prsented as Ms.X, the issue is different, but she represents NRCFOSS and NRCFOSS is part of the organisors. There is no use in preaching without practicing. We didn't stop her or ask her to get out, as we are still civilised people. Raman.P Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Firefox problem
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Tuesday 03 March 2009 12:14:33 padma priya wrote: > > I have an issue with Firefox version 3.0b5. It keeps closing unexpectedly > > every few minutes. > > what distro? how did you install firefox? > -- > Default installation with FC9. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On 3/3/09, Prakash A S wrote: > > And upto my knowledge, in NRCFOSS we dont have any interaction with new > comers reg how to follow the FOSS culture. I discussed with her reg this > issue. She prepared her in OO; But saved as a ppt format. I would like to > clear them that, we dont have any idea to irritate the FOSS culture and > FOSSConf objectives. thanks a bunch for giving ammunition to "NRCFOSS" bashers. Again, I suppose, the fault is mine. I presume we are in a collaborative and interactive mode of working -- unfortunately, there seems to be a need for "guided" collaboration. I have been with NRCFOSS since 2006 April. Till now we did not discuraged > any LUG communities in FOSS promotion and we would also like to interact > with them reg the FOSS promotion. We are always like to interact with LUG > in > all the workshop. Raman & Bharathi know well about it. But I am seeing, for > last 2 years, whenever we participated & doing some workshops along with > ILUG-C communitiy people, they are always talking about TAX and irrtate > NRCFOSS members. I have noted down this activity from Raman itself, in > Trichy, Anna university, trip. This activites wont helpful for us to > encarage the FOSS promotion along with ILUGC. I dont know, why they are > targetting NRCFOSS members instead of NRCFOSS org?. You and I are members of ILUG-C. We are as much LUGgies as anybody else. As part of our official NRCFOSS duties, we organize events where we involve members from FOSS Community (includes LUGs across the country, FOSS experts / users who are not LUG members, and others). Eventually, it boils down to the efforts of the individual who has taken the responsibility of coordinating a particular event -- be it Raman or Srinivasan or Prakash -- to reach out to potential collaborators and get things going. As I pointed out in my earlier mail, I wouldn't like to attribute adverse comments or acts of errots from individuals to the entire group. Of course, we all have "freedom" to think in our own way. Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:15 PM, sivaji j.g wrote: > for new people joining NRCFOSS as many of them tend to be not from a > > FOSS background and occasionally with no clue of FOSS. (Well, said in the > > best interests of NRCFOSS). > > > Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background > for > FOSS development ? You mean, a person cant work for FOSS development suppose he/she dont have any FOSS background before he/she entered into a org?. -asp ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Prakash A S wrote: > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:15 PM, sivaji j.g wrote: > > > for new people joining NRCFOSS as many of them tend to be not from a > > > FOSS background and occasionally with no clue of FOSS. (Well, said in > the > > > best interests of NRCFOSS). > > > > > > Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background > > for > > FOSS development ? > > > You mean, a person cant work for FOSS development suppose he/she dont have > any FOSS background before he/she entered into a org?. > > -asp > ___ > To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with > "unsubscribe " > in the subject or body of the message. > http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc > Hi, Where can I get Linux DVD's? Kandaswamy ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: Mixed environments (Was Re: [Ilugc] fossconf'09 talk slide)
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 22:39 +0530, Ashok Gautham wrote: > Mr. Kenneth, I would appreciate it if you called it > Microsoft Windows > and not > MicroShaft or Microshit WINDOZE or WINBLOWS Why not? Pros: 1. No one searching for help on a particular Win(dows|doze|blows) issue will have to selectively filter out the ilugc archives. Cons: 1. None! It is easy to see that it's Micro(soft|shaft|shit) and its products that are being referred to. 2. None! Operating Systems don't have feelings. Seems to me Kenneth is preserving signal-to-noise. -- Regards, Roshan George ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side
Dear Mr.Srinivasan Soundrarajan >>Which issues have been avoided? There can be and will be difference of opinion how one contributes to FOSS. Can you please elaborate on the "state of denial from the TEAM NRCFOSS"? I do recall that one issue you had raised was given a response -- not a denial but statement of facts. So i can expect some facts as well to http://annauniv-tamilnadu.blogspot.com/2009/01/nrcfoss-are-you-there_30.htmlfrom your NRCFOSS capacity , open discussion in this mail. ARUN , myself and many others here are seeking an answer, for our knowledge sake , please dont throw this mail because of the anonimity of the author credentials... regards Thyagarajan Shanmugham. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] valuable suggestion -- sol for fix my Errror
Dear All, Thanks Mr. Raman --- Helping Hands he listen my voice Thanks again I Restarted the printers manually login in client machine windows and i watch the log file in log.windowsclientmcname log file is as below 2009/03/03 13:20:05, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1188) sasikala (:::192.168.1.30) connect to service printers initially as user mohan (uid=500, gid=500) (pid 12091) [2009/03/03 13:21:07, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(1399) sasikala (:::192.168.1.30) closed connection to service printers [2009/03/03 13:21:07, 1] smbd/ipc.c:api_fd_reply(333) api_fd_reply: INVALID PIPE HANDLE: 761c [2009/03/03 13:21:53, 0] printing/print_cups.c:cups_job_submit(658) Unable to print file to printers - client-error-not-found i open the printershare which i mention in smb and cups automatically open the drivers i installed the printers set as default one and i print it means is fall in queue but not able to print out i need your valuable suggestion --- is to fix my error with Regards, Mohan ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
