Re: Latest update fucked my spread sheets
Is technically impossible to mess all your spreadhseets unless they were conciously saved like that. I have dealt with corrupt files, and usually the files are usually at fault of other external things like incomplete downloads/transfers. Also OpenOffice has a backup path that saves all documentes saved on a specialize internal path in case you get to loose any of it. Finally just as regular computing practice you should always hold backups of everything, regardless of the software you use. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Krynock Construction wrote: > Just to let you dicks know, I updated the program with the latest update > and all my text documents are fine. However, ALL my spread sheets that I > use to estimate my jobs, track profit and expenses, track accounting > expenses etc were blown all out of scale and proportion. I have to > completely redo all my worksheets. Right when I have tons of physical job > work, job-related paper work and school work to get done now I have to redo > all of my spreadsheets. Thanks. Fuck you, I'm going over to Microsoft > Office even if I have to pay. Better than redoing all my work and then > having this shit happen again. Can you tell I'm pissed? I used to love an > outside the box program that was competition to Microsoft. I'm beside > myself. > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: XComponentLoader loadComponentfromURL Readonly
Can you provide code snippet to be able to provide more quality answer. Is there any other property value being defined and is that definition passing through without problem. F rom some of my search through the DevGuide, it seems that before Read only was defined through a OpenFlag but that was instead repleaced with the own ReadOnly property for the MediaDescriptor service. http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/OfficeDev/Handling_Documents On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Rajath Shashidhara < rajaths.raja...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm passing a propertyvalue, "readOnly"-true to loadComponentFromURL(), but > the openoffice is still not opening in readonly from. > What are the possible sources of error? > > -- > Rajath S, > M.Sc(Hons.) Physics, B.E.(Hons.) Computer Science > Birla Institute of Technology and Science - Pilani, > Pilani > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Why are you so hard to contact???!!!
We have many channels to develop support, you can go to a web forum at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/ or this user mailing list. If you feel this is a bug, you can report it at our bugzilla https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ There are options to enable or disable rulers, you can also go to the Tools -> Options -> Writer -> View to enable them. Here is a page of our Writer guide on our Wiki: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide/Changing_page_margins On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Sandy Shartzer wrote: > Your website tries to pawn people off on each other, twitter, FAQ that > don't apply, "documents", etc. etc. instead of just getting down to giving > support. VERY FRUSTRATING. > > So I finally found this email address and hopefully a real person will > respond. > > I have Open Office 3.3, which came with my reconditioned computer when I > bought it. Suddenly it won't let me specify margins no matter what I try > (through right-click, format-page, whatever). The ruler has no slider on > the right to adjust -- it just disappeared. Now what??? > > sandy -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Fwd: [CONF] Apache OpenOffice Community > Louis Vuitton Evora 100% Authentic 80% Off Free Shipping
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Re: [CONF] Apache OpenOffice Community > Louis Vuitton Evora 100% Authentic 80% Off Free Shipping
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:54 AM, janI wrote: > On 6 September 2013 18:48, sebb wrote: > > > On 6 September 2013 17:07, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > > We are getting some spam attacks on the cWiki, wonder if we can do > > > some scanning to detect similar pages, and also remove this nick. > > > > On the Moin Wikis, anyone can create a Wiki account, but that does not > > grant them write access. > > They then have to apply to the dev list to get added to the > > ContributorsGroup page. [1] > > If anyone abuses their permissions (AFAIK that has not happened) the > > login can easily be removed from the page. > > > > on mwiki its similar and still differerent. You dont need an account to > read, anybody can read without signing in. When they create an account the > get automatic write permission. > > I and earlier admins have made 2 suggestions to avoid spam: > 1) Write access is not active until x days after creation (typically 4) > 2) Write access is not given before approved by an mwiki-admin. > > Both suggestions were deemed "negative user experience", so the original > system remains. > When this did change happened? I have experienced this 4 day periods pretty often. So this system was set in place until recently. So I am not sure when did this got revoked. Also, can't we just get a co-signer system where they get instant access as long as someone vows for the user? > > jza@: any mwiki admin can block the nich, but you cannot remove a nick > that > has made comments/pages. > > rgds > jan I. > > > > > [1] > > > http://wiki.apache.org/general/OurWikiFarm#per_wiki_access_control_-_tighten_your_wiki_just_a_little.2C_benefit_just_a_lot > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > > From: "lily regland (Confluence)" > > > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 06:08:00 + (UTC) > > > > Please don't forward spam unless it is essential to the reply, and > > then remove as much as possible first. > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: [CONF] Apache OpenOffice Community > Louis Vuitton Evora 100% Authentic 80% Off Free Shipping
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:54 PM, janI wrote: > > On 6 September 2013 18:48, sebb wrote: > > > >> On 6 September 2013 17:07, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> > We are getting some spam attacks on the cWiki, wonder if we can do > >> > some scanning to detect similar pages, and also remove this nick. > >> > >> On the Moin Wikis, anyone can create a Wiki account, but that does not > >> grant them write access. > >> They then have to apply to the dev list to get added to the > >> ContributorsGroup page. [1] > >> If anyone abuses their permissions (AFAIK that has not happened) the > >> login can easily be removed from the page. > >> > >> on mwiki its similar and still differerent. You dont need an account to > > read, anybody can read without signing in. When they create an account > the > > get automatic write permission. > > > > Unless I'm missing something it looks like this spam was on the CWiki. > > Do we have any options there? > I already remove the page, but I think an admin should be auditing the last changes on cwiki for the past few days. And someone with rights could either decide to remove or quarentine the user. > > -Rob > > > > > I and earlier admins have made 2 suggestions to avoid spam: > > 1) Write access is not active until x days after creation (typically 4) > > 2) Write access is not given before approved by an mwiki-admin. > > > > Both suggestions were deemed "negative user experience", so the original > > system remains. > > > > jza@: any mwiki admin can block the nich, but you cannot remove a nick > that > > has made comments/pages. > > > > rgds > > jan I. > > > > > > > >> [1] > >> > http://wiki.apache.org/general/OurWikiFarm#per_wiki_access_control_-_tighten_your_wiki_just_a_little.2C_benefit_just_a_lot > >> > -- Forwarded message -- > >> > From: "lily regland (Confluence)" > >> > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 06:08:00 + (UTC) > >> > >> Please don't forward spam unless it is essential to the reply, and > >> then remove as much as possible first. > >> Thanks! > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Asuming is an english version this is a link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Kenneth Aldis wrote: > I downloaded Apache OpenOffice 4.0 on 9-4-13 and got 2 files. I deleted > one of them and somehow lost both files including in the recycle bin. When > I try to download again your website won't allow me to do so. My computer > is old like me and I know I created this problem. Could you please email me > a onetime download file so I can unpack and install with Windows Explorer. > If you can't do this then how can you help me download Apache OpenOffice > 4.0 from your website. Please contact me if you need additional information. > Thank you, > Ken Aldis > k.al...@yahoo.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Wiki logo update
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Sep 7, 2013, at 4:46 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > > On 23/08/2013 janI wrote: > >> On 22 August 2013 23:51, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >>>>> just get a final confirmation if there a 'go' on the Wiki logo update > >>>>> which > >>>>> was reverted due to a regression by infra when setting the SVN. > >> Infra did not revert anything. > >> As you very well know the revert on wiki was done by me, because > >> a) the logos was installed in a wrong place, that made updates very > >> difficult > >> b) the standard procedure to make a backup/commit was not followed > >> All something that had nothing to do with consensus, but how admins > work on > >> the vm. > > > > I'm coming late to this part of the discussion, but this was definitely > the right thing to do. We care about a professional-level maintenance of > our Infrastructure (and actually Apache Infra demands and enforces it). > Everyone can make mistakes, but when we can correct them we must do so. And > this is the "technical" part. > > I agree. My default position is that I support Jan's sysadmin work. For me > silence is assent. I'll make it clear here. > > > > >> I respects these concerns and feel reel consensus is > >> much more important than a technicality, even if it takes 400+ hours. > >> As vm-admin, I will not install a new logo and/or change html/css > before I > >> see a broad acceptance. Other vm-admins might feel different. > > > > And now coming to the "community" part: this was very right too. An > administrator must check consensus before doing changes. And consensus > reaching may well take weeks (the larger and simpler the issue -and this is > "large" since it affects several sites and "simple" since everybody can > have a say- the longer the discussion). > > > > The important thing is that eventually we get things done! Hagar > restarted the constructive discussion at > http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=63523 recently > and I hope we can move forward there. > That discussion only applies to forum. > > When the decision is made please bring it back here and flag it with a > [CONSENSUS] subject tag. We can then test that here and then proceed after > the consensus is proven. > There has been 0 comments on the wiki proposal. Is this a consensus? > > Either way we should be vetting the new html, it's look, etc. The sysadmin > team is then responsible for implementation on MWiki and forums and > communication about that to the appropriate lists. The admin team is > responsible for maintaining these servers and needs to manage all > configuration changes in a manner that any server can be rebuilt from > scratch using private svn archives including a runbook and data backups. > This has to be co-ordinated. A change that is apparently simple and > seemingly 10 minutes is not. Sysadmins are correct to insist on process > here. Volunteer sysadmins even more so. Don't expect them to be happy if > you make them "volunteer" when they have real plans and other activities. > > But, Alexandro seems to want to discuss a full branding change to all AOO > assets if that is so then that decision must be made on this list, is much > larger and it requires a full proposal with willingness to discuss > everyone's ideas. > There has been no comments on this list for the wiki logo proposal. Which should by default be a Consensus AFAIK, that's the 'lazy' part of the consensus. > > In that case the co-ordination is large and complete consensus followed by > a conversion plan is required. > It seems there is no timeline, even if there is no comments, things are not getting done. The process is pretty much broken, since there seems to be no actual consensus process beside "waiting" which has been done, and still hasn't been applied. > > - Sysadmin team > MWiki > Forums > - Committers > Websites > - Infra / bz admins > Bugzilla > - PMC / Infra > CWiki > Blogs > - Sourceforge > Extensions > Templates > ATM there is only proposed patches for Mwiki, Forum index and Forum logos. Extensions and Templates were already updated on Roberto's design. Blogs logos were somewhat updated without much discussion (AFAIK). > > Regards, > Dave > > > > > > > Regards, > > Andrea. > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Wiki logo update
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > >> >> On Sep 7, 2013, at 4:46 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> >> > On 23/08/2013 janI wrote: >> >> On 22 August 2013 23:51, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >> >>>>> just get a final confirmation if there a 'go' on the Wiki logo >> update >> >>>>> which >> >>>>> was reverted due to a regression by infra when setting the SVN. >> >> Infra did not revert anything. >> >> As you very well know the revert on wiki was done by me, because >> >> a) the logos was installed in a wrong place, that made updates very >> >> difficult >> >> b) the standard procedure to make a backup/commit was not followed >> >> All something that had nothing to do with consensus, but how admins >> work on >> >> the vm. >> > >> > I'm coming late to this part of the discussion, but this was definitely >> the right thing to do. We care about a professional-level maintenance of >> our Infrastructure (and actually Apache Infra demands and enforces it). >> Everyone can make mistakes, but when we can correct them we must do so. And >> this is the "technical" part. >> >> I agree. My default position is that I support Jan's sysadmin work. For >> me silence is assent. I'll make it clear here. >> >> > >> >> I respects these concerns and feel reel consensus is >> >> much more important than a technicality, even if it takes 400+ hours. >> >> As vm-admin, I will not install a new logo and/or change html/css >> before I >> >> see a broad acceptance. Other vm-admins might feel different. >> > >> > And now coming to the "community" part: this was very right too. An >> administrator must check consensus before doing changes. And consensus >> reaching may well take weeks (the larger and simpler the issue -and this is >> "large" since it affects several sites and "simple" since everybody can >> have a say- the longer the discussion). >> > >> > The important thing is that eventually we get things done! Hagar >> restarted the constructive discussion at >> http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=63523 recently >> and I hope we can move forward there. >> > > That discussion only applies to forum. > > > >> >> When the decision is made please bring it back here and flag it with a >> [CONSENSUS] subject tag. We can then test that here and then proceed after >> the consensus is proven. >> > > There has been 0 comments on the wiki proposal. Is this a consensus? > > > >> >> Either way we should be vetting the new html, it's look, etc. The >> sysadmin team is then responsible for implementation on MWiki and forums >> and communication about that to the appropriate lists. The admin team is >> responsible for maintaining these servers and needs to manage all >> configuration changes in a manner that any server can be rebuilt from >> scratch using private svn archives including a runbook and data backups. >> This has to be co-ordinated. A change that is apparently simple and >> seemingly 10 minutes is not. Sysadmins are correct to insist on process >> here. Volunteer sysadmins even more so. Don't expect them to be happy if >> you make them "volunteer" when they have real plans and other activities. >> >> But, Alexandro seems to want to discuss a full branding change to all AOO >> assets if that is so then that decision must be made on this list, is much >> larger and it requires a full proposal with willingness to discuss >> everyone's ideas. >> > > There has been no comments on this list for the wiki logo proposal. > Which should by default be a Consensus AFAIK, that's the 'lazy' part of > the consensus. > > > >> >> In that case the co-ordination is large and complete consensus followed >> by a conversion plan is required. >> > > It seems there is no timeline, even if there is no comments, things are > not getting done. The process is pretty much broken, since there seems to > be no actual consensus process beside "waiting" which has been done, and > still hasn't been applied. > > > >> >> - Sysadmin team >> MWiki >> Forums >> - Committers >> Web
Common theme for AOO web assets moving forward
There has been a lot of discussion on the way the website is being used, many users don't have the knowledge from the original theme of OOo. When oracle came in, it broke the common theme across different websites, using the one we currently use. Regardless of the quality of the design, many sites had old designs except for the main site. As Apache came in, there has been very little design efforts on the website. The one big theme was put to change the extension website. The website quickly got re-implemented to the cousin Drupal site, on Templates. However there hasn't been a consensus if these is the Apache Theme to establish a common branding and theme. I am working on a patch for the current *main* website. Here is an early screenshot of the site. http://imagebin.org/270485 I create a bug to get the css update on the site. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123231 However I think we need to have an actual decision to move with a common theme first and which theme should be. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Does our "Decision Making" information need additional instructions?
. Code changes and most > > website changes are in SVN and can be reverted. But some changes, > > like administrative bulk actions in BZ, cannot be easily undone. > > > > 7) Public statements in behalf of the project, e.g., some blog posts > > and announcements, press releases, etc. > > > > Those are examples, but the list is by no means complete. And for > > almost any of these there may be cases where CTR or even JFDI is > > appropriate. I'd take them more as "things to think about" when > > developing good judgement. > > > > Regards, > > > > -Rob > > > > These are great guidelines! We should definitely integrate them into the > Decision Making page somehow. Number 7 might need more elaboration. > > "Developing good judgement", like so many things in life, is learned by > trial and error. It would be great if we could at least better define what > we think "good judgement" is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > MzK > > > > > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged > > > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't." > > > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > > > -- > > - > MzK > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't." > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Common theme for AOO web assets moving forward
On 9/10/13, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >> There has been a lot of discussion on the way the website is being used, >> many users don't have the knowledge from the original theme of OOo. When >> oracle came in, it broke the common theme across different websites, >> using >> the one we currently use. >> >> Regardless of the quality of the design, many sites had old designs >> except >> for the main site. >> >> As Apache came in, there has been very little design efforts on the >> website. >> >> The one big theme was put to change the extension website. The website >> quickly got re-implemented to the cousin Drupal site, on Templates. >> >> However there hasn't been a consensus if these is the Apache Theme to >> establish a common branding and theme. >> > > If this helps, note that we have this page which illustrates many of > the CSS styles we use: > > http://www.openoffice.org/style-test.html > > and the same file rendered on our other website: > > http://openoffice.apache.org/style-test.html Thanks, key point of the email is if we will migrate the assets to the extension theme including "www". > > I assume we'd want to approximate the same styles on the MWiki as > well, Extensions and Templates as well. We currently have the minimal > branding consistency, in the name and logo. But we don't have > consistency in other aspects of the styling. > >> I am working on a patch for the current *main* website. Here is an early >> screenshot of the site. http://imagebin.org/270485 >> >> I create a bug to get the css update on the site. >> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123231 >> >> However I think we need to have an actual decision to move with a common >> theme first and which theme should be. >> > > I like the idea of achieving consistency here. But in your screen > shot, why does the logo have so much whitespace around it, a white > block extending over the menu and almost touching the T in THE. We > might try a a transparent background for the logo, but keeping the > gulls pure white? This is the original logo from the website, I just used FF web tools (inspect element) and insert the Extensions header background. The original logo have those whitespaces (I would rather crop the image to only the logo. http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png > > -Rob > > >> -- >> Alexandro Colorado >> Apache OpenOffice Contributor >> http://www.openoffice.org > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Does our "Decision Making" information need additional instructions?
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado > wrote: > > > I have recently been impact, on this lack of decision making tasks not > > being followed (ignoring 72 hr limit, etc) basically breaking the > process. > > So I have a few comments on this. > > > > I think you're referring to using "lazy concensus" . > > https://openoffice.apache.org/docs/governance/lazyConsensus.html > https://community.apache.org/committers/lazyConsensus.html > > One of the important aspects of Lazy Consensus is that it should be stated > at the outset of a communication that this is what will be in effect for > whatever is proposed. In other words, proposing something and stating that > you will be using Lazy Consensus to implement whatever it is you might want > to do is critical to this particular process. > > So far, I am finding 2 threads that seem to relate to all this: > > [1] http://markmail.org/message/hsdepqzlfvh33pdr > (proposals for wiki, forum , web site extensions, etc) > > and yes,I did vote +1 on the one design I saw in the issue and using it, > but mine was only ONE vote in a series of other comments. > > and this one, more recent > > [2] http://markmail.org/message/wlvv7gsnsmcurwfv > > in which there is claim that something was proposed. Based on the first > thread, all I see are suggestions for designs and discussion, but no > specific proposal. > > So, no proposal, no broken "lazy consensus" process. > > > > One important part is focusing on the meritocracy aspect of FLOSS. Is > > important not only to have a bug but an 'evidence'. Everyone has the > right > > to a voice and have their opinion on implementations. However I think > that > > the impact of that voice should be accompany with actual evidence, and > > would go into even having to propose an alternative. Deny things for the > > sole case of opinion shouldn't be enforced, > > > We have a process here at the ASF. Denying something, and I take this to > mean denying implementing something, based on opinion is what discussion > and building consensus is all about. > Exactly why we should consider a more efficient way of discussing it. (I thought you are proposing changes to the DM process) for the reasons explained. > > > > otherwise this will leave us > > to have many unverifiable opinions at a very low cost (think of spam for > > bitmessage) slowing the project down. > > > > There should also be a 'good enough' flag deadline after a certain period > > of time to get out of locked-in discussions. This is usually used on > power > > negotiations (HBR article on the topic: > > http://hbswk.hbs.edu/archive/4354.html). > > > > We have Lazy Consensus and other "decision making" processes.The ideas in > the article you have above are not the way we make decisions at Apache > OpenOffice. > Lazy Consensus comes close, but, again, this must be explicitly stated -- > This sounds a bit of a technicality 'you didnt use blue ink to fill out your form' kind of situation. > or else other participants don't have any idea if you're just discussing > something or actually intend to do something. > Not sure I understand you here. Why would anyone discuss anything for just the fun of discussing it? > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Kay Schenk > > wrote: > > > > > The information we currently have on Decision Making can be found > in > > > our > > > > > Orientation section: > > > > > > > > > > http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/decision-making.html > > > > > > > > > > On that page, there are explanations for types of decision making > > used > > > in > > > > > this project specifically and within the Apache Software > Foundation. > > In > > > > my > > > > > opinion, this is very good "how to" guide, but somewhat limited as > a > > > > "when > > > > > to" guide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I drafted the orientation pages based on my understanding. I didn't > > > > get many comments at the time, so I'm sure there is room for > > > > improvement. > > > > > > > > > Most of the source code changes done currently are preceded by
Re: Does our "Decision Making" information need additional instructions?
On 9/10/13, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado >>> wrote: >>> >>> > I have recently been impact, on this lack of decision making tasks not >>> > being followed (ignoring 72 hr limit, etc) basically breaking the >>> process. >>> > So I have a few comments on this. >>> > >>> >>> I think you're referring to using "lazy concensus" . >>> >>> https://openoffice.apache.org/docs/governance/lazyConsensus.html >>> https://community.apache.org/committers/lazyConsensus.html >>> >>> One of the important aspects of Lazy Consensus is that it should be >>> stated >>> at the outset of a communication that this is what will be in effect for >>> whatever is proposed. In other words, proposing something and stating >>> that >>> you will be using Lazy Consensus to implement whatever it is you might >>> want >>> to do is critical to this particular process. >>> >>> So far, I am finding 2 threads that seem to relate to all this: >>> >>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/hsdepqzlfvh33pdr >>> (proposals for wiki, forum , web site extensions, etc) >>> >>> and yes,I did vote +1 on the one design I saw in the issue and using it, >>> but mine was only ONE vote in a series of other comments. >>> >>> and this one, more recent >>> >>> [2] http://markmail.org/message/wlvv7gsnsmcurwfv >>> >>> in which there is claim that something was proposed. Based on the first >>> thread, all I see are suggestions for designs and discussion, but no >>> specific proposal. >>> >>> So, no proposal, no broken "lazy consensus" process. >>> >>> >>> > One important part is focusing on the meritocracy aspect of FLOSS. Is >>> > important not only to have a bug but an 'evidence'. Everyone has the >>> right >>> > to a voice and have their opinion on implementations. However I think >>> that >>> > the impact of that voice should be accompany with actual evidence, and >>> > would go into even having to propose an alternative. Deny things for >>> > the >>> > sole case of opinion shouldn't be enforced, >>> >>> >>> We have a process here at the ASF. Denying something, and I take this to >>> mean denying implementing something, based on opinion is what discussion >>> and building consensus is all about. >>> >> >> Exactly why we should consider a more efficient way of discussing it. (I >> thought you are proposing changes to the DM process) for the reasons >> explained. >> >> >>> >>> >>> > otherwise this will leave us >>> > to have many unverifiable opinions at a very low cost (think of spam >>> > for >>> > bitmessage) slowing the project down. >>> > >>> > There should also be a 'good enough' flag deadline after a certain >>> > period >>> > of time to get out of locked-in discussions. This is usually used on >>> power >>> > negotiations (HBR article on the topic: >>> > http://hbswk.hbs.edu/archive/4354.html). >>> > >>> >>> We have Lazy Consensus and other "decision making" processes.The ideas >>> in >>> the article you have above are not the way we make decisions at Apache >>> OpenOffice. >>> Lazy Consensus comes close, but, again, this must be explicitly stated >>> -- >>> >> This sounds a bit of a technicality 'you didnt use blue ink to fill out >> your form' kind of situation. >> >> >> >>> or else other participants don't have any idea if you're just discussing >>> something or actually intend to do something. >>> >> >> Not sure I understand you here. Why would anyone discuss anything for >> just >> the fun of discussing it? >> > > Something we do see: Someone talk about an idea, but it is not > something that they are wiling/able to do. They just think it is a > good idea. But unless someone volunteers it is just talk. > > I'm not saying yours was an example like this, but it is good to be > explicit. > > A semi-humorous example of one approach is here: > > http://markmail.org/message/rn2ue
Re: Wanting to contribute
On 9/11/13, phillip brown wrote: > Hello, my name is Phillip Brown, I am a university student and am required > to contribute to an open source project. Excellent wish more universities did the same. > I was interested in contributing by submitting problem reports about the > product/website and am wondering where I should start with this? Probably QA would be a good place to start, we have a QA mailing list and an introductory module to learn about the way to contribute to QA and testing: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html > > Thanks > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Fw: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
This is also used on a browser, when you install a new one. Since not many people have much knowledge into how to select the default editor for the filetype on the operating system. The easiest way is for the application to ask if you want to do it for you. That way the user can choose. Is odd that option only happens on Windows (dont know OSX), but Linux I have to manually configure this for the desktop environment, and then the browser, so it was a pain to do it. On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Mel Goddard wrote: > Before I do download it, perhaps you can tell me WHY I would need > "OpenOffice" to open my files for me. > That's akin to me telling you that you cannot drive your car unless I turn > the key to start it for you. > I have now wasted almost a full day to try to solve a problem that > prevents me from doing a 30 second job. > > Mel > > -Original Message- From: Mel Goddard > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:00 AM > To: Max Merbald > Subject: Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website > > Max; > > The problem is, that I'm trying to open an existing document to add to it. > Your program is preventing me from doing it. > I've never had any problem before, until a couple of days ago. > So since I've never even 'heard' of you before; I did uninstall it, and > then 'somebody' else is trying to get in here. > All I want to do is to access an existing document! That's all. > > My computer 'guru' tells me that you're legit, so I'm going to reinstall > your program and see: "What the Hell". > > I'll let you know of the follow up. > Mel > -Original Message- From: Max Merbald > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:38 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Cc: Mel Goddard > Subject: Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website > > > Hello Mel, > > unfortunately you didn't tell us what was your actual problem with Open > Office, and that makes it rather difficult to help you. If you do not > wish to have OpenOffice on your computer just uninstall it. I don't > believe that yelling would help you. > > Max > > > Am 09.09.2013 03:30, schrieb Mel Goddard: > >> GET OUT OF MY COMPUTER! >> I DIDN'T ASK FOR YOU, I DON'T NEED YOU, AND YOU ARE INTERFERING WITH MY >> WORK ON THIS THING! >> GET OUT NOW! >> mdgoddard3...@i-zoom.net >> >> --**--**- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> >> > --**--**- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Common theme for AOO web assets moving forward
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On 9/10/13, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Alexandro Colorado > wrote: > >> There has been a lot of discussion on the way the website is being used, > >> many users don't have the knowledge from the original theme of OOo. When > >> oracle came in, it broke the common theme across different websites, > >> using > >> the one we currently use. > >> > >> Regardless of the quality of the design, many sites had old designs > >> except > >> for the main site. > >> > >> As Apache came in, there has been very little design efforts on the > >> website. > >> > >> The one big theme was put to change the extension website. The website > >> quickly got re-implemented to the cousin Drupal site, on Templates. > >> > >> However there hasn't been a consensus if these is the Apache Theme to > >> establish a common branding and theme. > >> > > > > If this helps, note that we have this page which illustrates many of > > the CSS styles we use: > > > > http://www.openoffice.org/style-test.html > > > I think we could do much better on the way code is displayed. Here is a JS library that highlight the code and makes it look more appealing to developers: http://code.google.com/p/syntaxhighlighter/ also we can use solarized themes: http://www.minh.io/tech/2013/06/23/highlightjs-vs-syntaxhighlighter/ > > and the same file rendered on our other website: > > > > http://openoffice.apache.org/style-test.html > > Thanks, key point of the email is if we will migrate the assets to the > extension theme including "www". > > > > > > I assume we'd want to approximate the same styles on the MWiki as > > well, Extensions and Templates as well. We currently have the minimal > > branding consistency, in the name and logo. But we don't have > > consistency in other aspects of the styling. > > > >> I am working on a patch for the current *main* website. Here is an early > >> screenshot of the site. http://imagebin.org/270485 > >> > >> I create a bug to get the css update on the site. > >> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123231 > >> > >> However I think we need to have an actual decision to move with a common > >> theme first and which theme should be. > >> > > > > I like the idea of achieving consistency here. But in your screen > > shot, why does the logo have so much whitespace around it, a white > > block extending over the menu and almost touching the T in THE. We > > might try a a transparent background for the logo, but keeping the > > gulls pure white? > > This is the original logo from the website, I just used FF web tools > (inspect element) and insert the Extensions header background. The > original logo have those whitespaces (I would rather crop the image to > only the logo. > http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png > > > > > > -Rob > > > > > >> -- > >> Alexandro Colorado > >> Apache OpenOffice Contributor > >> http://www.openoffice.org > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > http://www.openoffice.org > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Hello!
OpenOffice is primarily written in C++, you are welcome to download the source file from here: http://openoffice.apache.org/source.html And review our development guide and Building guide from our wiki: * http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide * http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO * http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Jake Boomgaarden wrote: > My name is Jake and I am a COBOL programmer. My real interests lie > with slightly more modern languages though. I am currently trying to > improve > my competency with Java, but I have an interest in most anything modern. > I'm from Waukesha, WI. I am really excited to help out and hopefully learn > some new skills! > > Jacob > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
[BUG] XSL Stylesheet markup on CSS from Wizard
Please implement the following patch from bug 95765. I have tested the bug and seem that we only need to patch the stylesheet so that the CSS get's correctly mapped. from: t o: Please apply. File currently lives at: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/misc_config/wizard/web/layouts/ -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Status on VB2010 support to build AOO
thbet from the IRC channel tried to build AOO 4.x in VB2010 but had some issues at compile time. Doing some googling I saw that VB2010 was not supported back in 3.4.1. I wonder whats the current status for it. I found LibreOffice also had that issue but it was fixed on their 4.0 release notes. Judging by the patch, seems it was mainly some maintenance to the current DLLs in VS10. Is this just a matter of updating the Build Guide? or does AOO still can't be compiled in windows/visual studio 2010? -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Testing for OpenOffice 4.0.1 (RC) Start! Call for volunteers!
I can help: My testlink id: jza My platform Linux 32bits On 9/15/13, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Yuzhen Fan wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> The Release Candidate build is announced, and we can start doing RC >> acceptance test now. This is the call for volunteers on the final tests. >> Any one who can contribute to the testing before this Wednesday(09/18), >> please provide your TestLink ID and preferred platforms, and I will send >> you the general testing list. Thanks! >> >> Please note, the RC is based on the SNAPSHOT tag, rev. 1521921 >> (corresponding AOO401 branch, rev. 1521908). >> >> Regards, >> Yu Zhen >> > > I would be happy to help with this. > My testlink id: kschenk. > My platform : Linux -32. > > > > -- > - > MzK > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't." > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Testing for OpenOffice 4.0.1 (RC) Start! Call for volunteers!
BTW I am [guest] level. On 9/15/13, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > I can help: > My testlink id: jza > My platform Linux 32bits > > On 9/15/13, Kay Schenk wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Yuzhen Fan wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> The Release Candidate build is announced, and we can start doing RC >>> acceptance test now. This is the call for volunteers on the final tests. >>> Any one who can contribute to the testing before this Wednesday(09/18), >>> please provide your TestLink ID and preferred platforms, and I will send >>> you the general testing list. Thanks! >>> >>> Please note, the RC is based on the SNAPSHOT tag, rev. 1521921 >>> (corresponding AOO401 branch, rev. 1521908). >>> >>> Regards, >>> Yu Zhen >>> >> >> I would be happy to help with this. >> My testlink id: kschenk. >> My platform : Linux -32. >> >> >> >> -- >> - >> MzK >> >> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged >> to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't." >> -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain >> > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > http://www.openoffice.org > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED
Hi, review the following document and let me know if you have any more questions regarding it: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Calc:_FV_function There are some examples from the formula in discussion. On 9/15/13, Archana Gupta wrote: > Hi! I downloaded openoffice to use for my financial analysis class. I am > trying to use it to calculate FV, and I think I am following the steps > needed to do financial calculations. It keeps giving me an error msg. I > have been reading through the info provided, I am not finding the answers > on how to use it to calculate the FV function. It is not very informative, > or simple to figure things out. I have spent a lot of time to no avail. > PLEASE HELP ASAP. I NEED TO DO CALCULATIONS FOR CLASS WORK NOW. THIS IS > THE FIRST TIME I AM USING A SPREADSHEET/FINANCIAL FORMULAS/CALCULATIONS. > PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO USE IT. THANKS. > > *Archana* > * > * > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Unmaintained pt.openoffice.org
There are a couple of people working in the PT locale and Marco is also working on the dictionaries. You can simply talk to them through the mailing list (if there is one) and get yourself to maintain the website. The next procedure is to start making commits throught the Apache CMS or SVN. At the moment you can do the commits via bugzilla, just upload the patches. If you are a technical savvy guy you could use SVN to perform a checkout on the site. svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/pt/ pt The next step is for you to open it on your local browser, and perform the edits, then perform a patch of the directory: http://jungels.net/articles/diff-patch-ten-minutes.html And upload it to an issue on Bugzilla. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ If patches are difficult because you are on a windows system or never had the need, I guess you could just upload the new HTML/CSS in a zip file. On 9/16/13, Flavio Moringa wrote: > I, > > the Portuguese page isn't being maintained for a while. Although my company > (Caixa Magica Software) had a person in charge (Rui Fernandes) but he isn't > active anymore and we haven't been able to contact him. > > How can we change the person in charge of the site maintenance? What are > the procedures? > > Cheers > > *Flávio Moringa* > Project Leader > > > > Caixa Mágica Software > Energia Open Source > Rua Soeiro Pereira Gomes, Lote 1 - 4.º B, > Edifício Espanha, 1600-196 Lisboa - Portugal > Tel.: +351 217 921 260 Fax: +351 217 921 261 > http://www.caixamagica.pt > https://twitter.com/flaviomoringa > https://www.facebook.com/flaviomoringa<https://www.facebook.com/flavio.moringa> > http://pt.linkedin.com/in/flaviomoringa > http://people.caixamagica.pt/flaviomoringa > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OOo4Kids and a way to use the extension Read Text
One of the things OOo4Kids did was remove Java dependencies. Java runtime is demanded by the use of macros. So this is a reason why it doesnt work, nor it will work. However as a teacher (I assume you are) you could use Apache OpenOffice to produce the documents for the kids. I think PyUNO is supported, but I would need to research that. http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/PythonScriptability On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Klaus Rosen wrote: > Hello, > > I hope this is the right place for my question ... > > I want to use the extension "Read Text" with OOo4Kids. > The extension could be installed but there is an errormessage like: > Scriptlanguage Basic is missing. > I think that Basic is not implemented in OOo4Kids, right? > > Is there (an easy) way to "install" Basic on OOo4Kids? > > I need it (at a school) for Win 2008 Server (XP-Clients - yes I know :-[ ). > > Regards, > Klaus > > --**--**- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: OOo4Kids and a way to use the extension Read Text
Well OpenOffice also support python and there are even some guides to migrate your code from Basic to Python. Also I would suggest if the developer is interested, he can migrate it to python for you. http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Python/Transfer_from_Basic_to_Python The forum is full of Python specialists and would happily lend you a hand. http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewforum.php?f=45 On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Klaus Rosen wrote: > Thanks for the infos. > > Yes I am a teacher. > I want that the kids are able to work with the easy surface from OOo4Kids > an have the chance to check the writing by Read Text. > > I think I have to write an extension in Python for this ... > HOSSA :-D ;-) > > Regards, > Klaus > > Am 16.09.2013 20:09, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: > >> One of the things OOo4Kids did was remove Java dependencies. Java runtime >> is demanded by the use of macros. So this is a reason why it doesnt work, >> nor it will work. >> >> However as a teacher (I assume you are) you could use Apache OpenOffice to >> >> produce the documents for the kids. >> >> I think PyUNO is supported, but I would need to research that. >> http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/**index.php/PythonScriptability<http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/PythonScriptability> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Klaus Rosen wrote: >> >> Hello, >>> >>> I hope this is the right place for my question ... >>> >>> I want to use the extension "Read Text" with OOo4Kids. >>> The extension could be installed but there is an errormessage like: >>> Scriptlanguage Basic is missing. >>> I think that Basic is not implemented in OOo4Kids, right? >>> >>> Is there (an easy) way to "install" Basic on OOo4Kids? >>> >>> I need it (at a school) for Win 2008 Server (XP-Clients - yes I know :-[ >>> ). >>> >>> Regards, >>> Klaus >>> >>> --** >>> --**- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>> dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**a**pache.org<http://apache.org> >>> >>> > >>> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >> > > --**--**- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Students looking for an opportunity to contribute
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Stephanie Tilden wrote: > We have other courses parallel, so we will probably want to find a > relatively smaller project in comparison. We can spend a few hours a week > on this for three months. We don't need to add a new data structure for > our project, and we'd be happy to edit and help improve an existing one. > We would be happy to look at the classes for handling strings, or import > and export filters. > OpenOffice is a very large codebase, with many million of lines of code. I would certainly not try to discourage you but, I think this project is too large to munch. That said, there are other ways you could help. You could code extensions, these extensions are much smaller projects with not that many lines of code, and you can create patches for it. > > What do you think is reasonable for us to handle? We each have experience > with C++, and would be happy to help with whatever you think is reasonable. > Apache OpenOffice create extensions in Java, Basic, Python, Javascript and other languages, C++ is not as widely used because you need compilation for that. That said, I have seen some tutorials using C++ to code libraries for extensions. Hopefully a more seasoned developer can advice with the status of developing for the API. I suggest to join the a...@openoffice.apache.org mailing list where more extensions developers can meet and also the API forum at: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewforum.php?f=20&sid=1046df9a9de2de51f772399bfa9a6a7f > > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Regina Henschel > wrote: > > > Hi Stephanie, hi Caroline, > > > > Stephanie Tilden schrieb: > > > > Hi! I have emailed dev-subscribe to subscribe to the Apache Open Office > >> Mailing List with the same information that follows: > >> > >> I am a Computer Science student at the University of Notre Dame. I > have a > >> year experience in C++ and am now in a Data Structures course, where we > >> have a final project that includes becoming familiar with and adding or > >> editing a feature (data structure related) of an open source project. > >> > >> We are working in groups of two. My partner for this project and I are > >> wondering if there is an opportunity in the Apache Open Office community > >> where you need a data structure added or edited in your project. We > have > >> 3 > >> months to work on this project. Please let us know if you have any > >> options! > >> > > > > Apache OpenOffice is huge, with a history of about 15 years. Therefore a > > new data structure is only added, if it provides an advantage or is > really > > needed. If you will improve existing data structures, then we are likely > > find an area for you. > > > > For example, AOO has several classes for handling strings. Some are > > oldish. You can examine the existing solutions, find there problems and > > make suggestions to consolidate the classes. > > Or you look at a special missing feature, svg gradients for filling of > > draw objects for example, and make proposals about necessary changes in > the > > model. > > > > Another area dealing with structures are the import and export filter. > > Documents are stored in special file formats, proprietary or open > > standards, and need to be converted to the internal structures. There are > > missing features in this area too. > > > > On important aspect is, whether you need to deliver a patch, that will be > > integrated in the source, to satisfy the course requirements. > > > > Will you spent your whole time on this project, or do you have other > tasks > > or courses parallel? > > > > Kind regards > > Regina > > > > > > > > > -- > Stephanie Tilden > University of Notre Dame > Computer Science > Class of 2015 > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: [BUG] XSL Stylesheet markup on CSS from Wizard
Any update on this? This fix seems simple enough to promote the patch. I tried doing the commit but get an repo error: svn: Commit failed (details follow): svn: access to '/repos/asf/!svn/act/fa79bdb8-1d7f-45dc-8372-0f09658a7180' forbidden On 9/13/13, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Please implement the following patch from bug 95765. I have tested the bug > and seem that we only need to patch the stylesheet so that the CSS get's > correctly mapped. > > from: > > > > t > o: > > d > date"> > > Please apply. > File currently lives at: > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/misc_config/wizard/web/layouts/ > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > http://www.openoffice.org > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [BUG] XSL Stylesheet markup on CSS from Wizard
I update the XSLT directly on the binary. Both stylesheets are ascii so you can verify them here: $[openoffice_home]/share/config/wizard/web/layouts/layoutX.xsl and layout.xsl On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > (follow-up to dev, please) > > > On 16/09/2013 Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> Any update on this? This fix seems simple enough to promote the patch. >> > > The fix is indeed minimal, but let's make sure it is properly tested. How > did you test it? > > Did you build OpenOffice with the patch applied and tried the Web Page > wizard? (This might sound overkill for a patch that simply corrects a CSS > class name, but it doesn't harm and if you wish I can make this check for > you, just ask). > > Or did you apply the patch (and which one? the first one, the second one > or both?) to an installed OpenOffice and tried with the Web Page Wizard? > > References: > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=95765<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=95765>Bug > description > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**attachment.cgi?id=57656<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=57656>First > patch > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**attachment.cgi?id=57657<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=57657>Second > patch > > > I tried doing the commit but get an repo error: >> svn: Commit failed (details follow): >> > > We will have to check this too. But let's get the patch tested, then move > to this. > > Regards, > Andrea. > > --**------**- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > qa-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Does our "Decision Making" information need additional instructions?
On 9/18/13, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> On 9/10/13, Rob Weir wrote: >> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Alexandro Colorado >> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Kay Schenk >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > I have recently been impact, on this lack of decision making tasks >> not >> >>> > being followed (ignoring 72 hr limit, etc) basically breaking the >> >>> process. >> >>> > So I have a few comments on this. >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> I think you're referring to using "lazy concensus" . >> >>> >> >>> https://openoffice.apache.org/docs/governance/lazyConsensus.html >> >>> https://community.apache.org/committers/lazyConsensus.html >> >>> >> >>> One of the important aspects of Lazy Consensus is that it should be >> >>> stated >> >>> at the outset of a communication that this is what will be in effect >> for >> >>> whatever is proposed. In other words, proposing something and stating >> >>> that >> >>> you will be using Lazy Consensus to implement whatever it is you >> >>> might >> >>> want >> >>> to do is critical to this particular process. >> >>> >> >>> So far, I am finding 2 threads that seem to relate to all this: >> >>> >> >>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/hsdepqzlfvh33pdr >> >>> (proposals for wiki, forum , web site extensions, etc) >> >>> >> >>> and yes,I did vote +1 on the one design I saw in the issue and using >> it, >> >>> but mine was only ONE vote in a series of other comments. >> >>> >> >>> and this one, more recent >> >>> >> >>> [2] http://markmail.org/message/wlvv7gsnsmcurwfv >> >>> >> >>> in which there is claim that something was proposed. Based on the >> first >> >>> thread, all I see are suggestions for designs and discussion, but no >> >>> specific proposal. >> >>> >> >>> So, no proposal, no broken "lazy consensus" process. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > One important part is focusing on the meritocracy aspect of FLOSS. >> >>> > Is >> >>> > important not only to have a bug but an 'evidence'. Everyone has >> >>> > the >> >>> right >> >>> > to a voice and have their opinion on implementations. However I >> >>> > think >> >>> that >> >>> > the impact of that voice should be accompany with actual evidence, >> and >> >>> > would go into even having to propose an alternative. Deny things >> >>> > for >> >>> > the >> >>> > sole case of opinion shouldn't be enforced, >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> We have a process here at the ASF. Denying something, and I take this >> to >> >>> mean denying implementing something, based on opinion is what >> discussion >> >>> and building consensus is all about. >> >>> >> >> >> >> Exactly why we should consider a more efficient way of discussing it. >> >> (I >> >> thought you are proposing changes to the DM process) for the reasons >> >> explained. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > otherwise this will leave us >> >>> > to have many unverifiable opinions at a very low cost (think of >> >>> > spam >> >>> > for >> >>> > bitmessage) slowing the project down. >> >>> > >> >>> > There should also be a 'good enough' flag deadline after a certain >> >>> > period >> >>> > of time to get out of locked-in discussions. This is usually used >> >>> > on >> >>> power >> >>> > negotiations (HBR article on the topic: >> >>> > http://hbswk.hbs.edu/archive/4354.html). >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> We have Lazy Consensus and other "decision making" processes.Th
Re: remove address...
This is not a website, but a mailing list, and the process to remove is done on your end, you need to send an email to dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org and then reply to the 'confirmation' email. If you dont reply to it, it wont removed you. On 9/18/13, Cindy Read wrote: > I would like my address removed from the openoffice.apache website. Will > someone help me please? > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: students participating in OOo
Hello, comments inline: On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Cem Kaner wrote: > I just noticed a request for professors to let you know when their students > are joining the OOo projects. > > > > I teach courses in software testing at Florida Tech (Florida Tech students) > and through Kaner/Fiedler Associates (you'll see students from companies > coming through us, such as, currently, Progressive Insurance). One of each > of these classes is actively working with OOo right now. > That's great news. We could write an article on our blog as a case study in the future. These are the BBST courses, which the Association for Software Testing and > Arizona State also teach. Other places teach them too, but those are the > groups that I know currently follow my suggestion to work on OpenOffice. > > > > Students in these classes review two unconfirmed bugs each, posting > comments > on the OOo database that are intended to help you confirm or reject a bug. > Are you talking about bugzilla @ https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ ? > They also write evaluations of the communication quality of the bug > reports, > which our class sees but your bug reporters don't see (some of the > evaluations are unflattering; there is no value in insulting volunteers by > publicly critiquing their reports). > We have a Quality Assurance mailing list, this will insure the bugs get at least the right amount of attention. However is important these bugs are correctly documented, please check out these instructions on how to write a bug: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/HowToFileIssue If you're curious, I can send you a copy of the assignment. I generally > teach two university courses and 2-3 corporate courses per year. ASU > teaches, I think, two courses. > It would be more helpful to have the bug report # so we can review them on the list. > If you wanted to encourage this, the best support you could give us would > be > to confirm or reject bugs quickly after we studied them, or to post > comments > on the bug that followed up on our notes (e.g. asked additional questions). > Unfortunately we don't have the resources to confirm all the bugs that get generated by users or testers. You are welcome however to become a tester or a developer and submit the patches required. You can bring questions regarding the coding convention and the possible development solutions with the other developers and test the new patch on our nightly builds. > If you are happy to give this kind of fast feedback, I could send you a > list > of the volunteers on your project who are willing to be identified to you > as > our students (privacy laws require me to get their permission). > It would be more of use, if the students themselves come forward either on this list, or the QA one to talk about the current reports. > > > > Cordially > > > > Cem Kaner, JD., Ph.D. > > www.kaner.com > > Professor of Software Engineering, Florida Tech > > > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
[WWW] Apache 404 handler
I notice a lot of dead links gives a horrible default error. Can we put a
more "design friendly" error handler for missing or outdated links. Also
add some Javascript to redirect back to homepage (or back page).
function delayer(){
window.location = "<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.openoffice.org"">http://www.openoffice.org"</a>;
}
...
--
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://www.openoffice.org
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Re: [WWW] Apache 404 handler
JS was to automatically send you back (or send you to the homepage like the
example). Using:
history.back()
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>
> > I notice a lot of dead links gives a horrible default error. Can we put a
> > more "design friendly" error handler for missing or outdated links. Also
> > add some Javascript to redirect back to homepage (or back page).
> >
> >
> > function delayer(){
> > window.location = "
> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.openoffice.org">http://www.openoffice.org</a>
> > "
> > }
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alexandro Colorado
> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > http://www.openoffice.org
> > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
> >
>
> Someone else mentioned this recently. I *thought* we had a custom 404 at
> one time, but I could be mistaken. This is a relatively easy server side
> configure, rather than JS. Any thoughts on what we would like it to say?
>
> We could also include some fun pictures!
>
> --
>
> -----
> MzK
>
> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
>
--
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://www.openoffice.org
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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Where did you download the software from? Apache OpenOffice can only be download from SourceForge software center. On 9/23/13, Bill Ziegler wrote: > My virus software picks up a virus when trying to download your latest > software. One is "s0GzNmS6.exe.part",the other one is "4x6z9SSj.exe.part". > They could also be ad ware,but still makes them impossible to download them > on my computer. > > Thank you ! > Bill > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Performance testing for 4.0.1
The defunct Peformance project on OpenOffice used to handle good testing for cold start performance under different OS. I wonder with the new version of AOO coming up, how does it match to the previous versions. Link here: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Performance/Achievements_Windows_Startup#General_work_for_a_better_cold_start_up_performance I notice the test was primarily aimed at low end systems however I would like to know different OSes (OSX, Windows Vista/7/8, GNU/Linux Kernel 3.x), and processors. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
DOAP on AOO
Should we have a DOAP (Description of a Project) RDF for the Apache OpenOffice project. In a nutshell is a RDF schema defining the structure of the project. https://github.com/edumbill/doap/wiki This is an example: https://github.com/edumbill/doap/blob/master/examples/gnome-bluetooth-doap.rdf -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Update on Testing for Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 (RCs) as of 09/24 - have testing gap on Linux
Did the ODS tests on Calc on Mandriva x86 32bits : - Chart PASSED - Formula PASSED - Sheet PASSED - Fill PASSED - Name Range PASSED - Validity FAILED - Failed to show expected result messages Test Case ID AOOTest-383 - Sidebar PASSED On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Yuzhen Fan wrote: > Hi all, > > This is the update for showstopper defect verification/impacted area > testing, general testing and PVT: > > *1.* Bug(showstopper)verification and impacted area testing - *Almost done > * for function bugs, all verified fixed and passed impacted area testing > related to the bugs(with attached samples and limited variation), except: > > 122885 - Cannot reproduce it in problematic build (4.0.0), thus does not > know if it is fixed in 4.0.1, add comment in Bugzilla > > *2.* General testing for Calc, Writer, Impress on Windows, Linux and Mac > - *In progress*, please see details as below: > > Windows: *Complete* > > Writer - Prachi test on RC2 and couldn't find any bugs on Windows 7 > Calc - Akriti test on RC2 and find 10 issues(6 confirmed, no critical > problems for showstopper) on windows 8 > Impress - Dick test on RC1 and all seems well and no critical bugs were > found on Windows 7 > > Linux: *In progress with gap* > > Writer - Kay test on RC3 and no issues are found on OpenSuse 12.3 > Calc - Haven't received test result so far (any one can share your test > result if you have done or help execute attached general testing list on > Calc) > Impress - Started on RC3 by Edwin > > Mac: *In progress and safe* > Impress - passed on RC2 by Liu Ping > Calc -passed on RC3 by Yu Zhen > Writer - started on RC3 by Liu Ping, will complete it tomorrow 09/25 > > *3. *Build verification test on RC3 - *In progress and safe* > > Build installation on Redhat 32bit /Ubuntu 32bit /Ubuntu 64bit / Mac / > Windows 7 / Windows 8 - passed by Liu Ping and Yu Zhen; on Redhat 64bit - > not started, Yu Zhen will complete it tomorrow 09/25 > Open three apps(Calc, Writer, Impress) successfully > > *4. *GUI PVT on RC1 compared with 4.0.0 Gold - *Complete *by Liu Ping, no > obvious reproducible performance downgrade on RC3 > > As we are closed to the deadline(*2013-09-25*) of vote for AOO > 4.0.1(RC3), your volunteering to fill the gap on Linux testing will be > appreciated! > > Regards > Yu Zhen > > > ----- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: DOAP on AOO
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Roberto Galoppini < roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2013/9/24 Alexandro Colorado > > > Should we have a DOAP (Description of a Project) RDF for the Apache > > OpenOffice project. > > > Think so: http://projects.apache.org/doap.html > > Most Apache projects have it, e.g. > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/site/trunk/content/doap.rdf > Thanks I find it here, however is outdated, still lists 3.4.1, should be 4.0 or 4.0.1 soon enough: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/site/trunk/content/doap_openoffice.rdf 43c43 < Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 --- > Apache OpenOffice 4.0.0 45c45 < 3.4.1 --- > 4.0.0 > > Roberto > > > > > In a nutshell is a RDF schema defining the structure of > > the project. > > > > https://github.com/edumbill/doap/wiki > > > > This is an example: > > > > > https://github.com/edumbill/doap/blob/master/examples/gnome-bluetooth-doap.rdf > > > > -- > > Alexandro Colorado > > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > > http://www.openoffice.org > > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 > > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: product request
AFAIK there were linux distributions created for XBox and PS4, but they needed of some hardware modification http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OtherOS and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Linux If you can get linux on the machines, this would be possible. Fortunately there are many open hardware like raspberry pi or beagleboard that will help you get free software to many kids. http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4809 I think there is a school version of debian called skolelinux, not sure if it's been tested for raspberry pi, but raspbian definetly includes OpenOffice. sudo apt-get install openoffice.org or through the openoffice version for debian (not sure if it's been tested for ARM processors). http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian/ On 9/24/13, Chris Rhody wrote: > Please consider this proposal as it is a way to get productivity software > to a great number of children inexpensively. > > I need a version of Open Office that well run on a game console. xbox or > playstation. The current iterations may be difficult, but the new versions > due to arrive soon are close to PC hardware. Perhaps a disk image file we > could burn to DVD. Both consoles will accept keyboards and at least the > PS4 will accept Printers. Possibly even wirelessly. > > Most families have one of these devices, even if very low income. A new > computer at the low end costs at least as much as the console. We are > simply trying to get tools they need for school at what amounts to no cost. > > I think this fits well with your mission and is definitely doable. I'm not > sure how helpful Microsoft would be, with a competing product. SONY, > however, should at least treat it like any game in development and offer > some assistance. Every title adds value to the console. > > Chris Rhody > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Update on Testing for Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 (RCs) as of 09/24 - have testing gap on Linux
I was able to "find" the testcase using the criteria, and was able resolved the following tests, I resubmit the results using AOO401m5(Build:9714) - Rev. 1524958 On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Did the ODS tests on Calc on Mandriva x86 32bits : > >- C >hart PASSE >D > > >- >- Formula PASSED >- Sheet PASSED >- Fill PASSE >D > > >- Name Range PASSED > > - Name Range - FAILED - Failed to retrieve the remotely file data range from TCID: AOOTest-162 >- Validity FAILED - Failed to show expected result messages Test >Case ID AOOTest-383 >- Sidebar PASSED > > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Yuzhen Fan wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> This is the update for showstopper defect verification/impacted area >> testing, general testing and PVT: >> >> *1.* Bug(showstopper)verification and impacted area testing - *Almost >> done* for function bugs, all verified fixed and passed impacted area >> testing related to the bugs(with attached samples and limited variation), >> except: >> >> 122885 - Cannot reproduce it in problematic build (4.0.0), thus does not >> know if it is fixed in 4.0.1, add comment in Bugzilla >> >> *2.* General testing for Calc, Writer, Impress on Windows, Linux and Mac >> - *In progress*, please see details as below: >> >> Windows: *Complete* >> >> Writer - Prachi test on RC2 and couldn't find any bugs on Windows 7 >> Calc - Akriti test on RC2 and find 10 issues(6 confirmed, no critical >> problems for showstopper) on windows 8 >> Impress - Dick test on RC1 and all seems well and no critical bugs were >> found on Windows 7 >> >> Linux: *In progress with gap* >> >> Writer - Kay test on RC3 and no issues are found on OpenSuse 12.3 >> Calc - Haven't received test result so far (any one can share your test >> result if you have done or help execute attached general testing list on >> Calc) >> Impress - Started on RC3 by Edwin >> >> Mac: *In progress and safe* >> Impress - passed on RC2 by Liu Ping >> Calc -passed on RC3 by Yu Zhen >> Writer - started on RC3 by Liu Ping, will complete it tomorrow 09/25 >> >> *3. *Build verification test on RC3 - *In progress and safe* >> >> Build installation on Redhat 32bit /Ubuntu 32bit /Ubuntu 64bit / Mac / >> Windows 7 / Windows 8 - passed by Liu Ping and Yu Zhen; on Redhat 64bit - >> not started, Yu Zhen will complete it tomorrow 09/25 >> Open three apps(Calc, Writer, Impress) successfully >> >> *4. *GUI PVT on RC1 compared with 4.0.0 Gold - *Complete *by Liu Ping, >> no obvious reproducible performance downgrade on RC3 >> >> As we are closed to the deadline(*2013-09-25*) of vote for AOO >> 4.0.1(RC3), your volunteering to fill the gap on Linux testing will be >> appreciated! >> >> Regards >> Yu Zhen >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > http://www.openoffice.org > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 > > > > > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: New AOO 4.0 review article (PC World)
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > > > > http://www.pcworld.com/article/2048446/apache-openoffice-4-0-review-new-features-easier-to-use-still-free.html > > > > Title is "Apache OpenOffice 4.0 review: New features, easier to use, > still > > free" > > > > We get 4.5 of 5 stars. The reviewer says AOO 4.0 is "smooth and > > cohesive" and gives good coverage to the new sidebar. > > > > However we are dinged a little for the "documentation" (I think he > > means the in-product help files) which is described as "sparse, and > > not well-aimed at non-technical users". I wonder if there is > > something we can do to link in more of the tutorial/overview material > > that exists? > > > > -Rob > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > I'm sure there is. I took a look at what's available to guide one of our > newest volunteers who might be interested in contributing to this. There is > a 108 page document on the help files! I'm sure it's useful but probably > VERY daunting when it's likely making changes to the help files isn't > necessarily so. > > Also, given my own experience of late with the internal help files, I'm not > happy with the results produced by the "Find", and wonder how we can get > more hits for keywords that should yield some better results. > > Long story short, we do need to expend some effort in the near future ( > goal of mine anyway) to tutorials/guidelines on the help system -- how it > works, how to add to it, etc. This is really an area of "documentation" in > my mind, even though it is internal. Volunteers with some technical writing > expertise would be very valuable in this area. > > -- > > - > MzK > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't." > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain > I think it would help people if we have a more wiki-like navigation of the documents as opposed to the old chm model. Things like tag clouds, tutorials and better used of integrate it with a knowledgebase like the FAQ engine that was generated on the wiki documentation website. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Where can I find the new AOO4-Logo as a vector format?
There is one here: http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/aoo4-main-tm-logo-rgb.svg On 9/27/13, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > > I need a scalable format of the new AOO4 logo, where can I find it? > > > Greetings, > Jörg > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reminder: Time to update your entry in the Directory of Volunteers
AFAIK this is the convertor from po to sdf/xliff http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/oo2po You can download the po from the project here: https://translate.apache.org/bg/aoo40/export/zip On 9/27/13, janI wrote: > On 27 September 2013 08:32, Herbert Duerr wrote: > >> Николай Нинков wrote: >> > Because the translation of Bulgarian is almost ready, please do for me >> > a >> dev >> > snapshot with the Bulgarian translation to carry out the necessary >> > tests. >> > I do not want to promise but I will try to handle the tests so that you >> turn >> > the Bulgarian translation in the new Release 4.0.1. >> >> I have to admit that I don't know how get a *sdf file out of pootle. But >> if someone can provide me with the latest *sdf file for Bulgarian I'd >> volunteer to do a snapshot build for it. I extend that offer also for >> Danish as that just got ready. >> > > I think only 2 people know that, which is why I wrote a docu about a year > ago. juergen is the real guru. > > I nobody beats me to it, I will give it a shoot during the weekend (I have > already done for it danish, but not committed it). > > Can I commit it to trunk ? > > rgds > jan I. > > >> >> The builds would be quite similar to the soon to be expected AOO 4.0.1, >> but only similar because the revision number approved for the official >> 4.0.1 release would not have the latest *sdf files. >> >> I look forward to the near future when we'll be able to skip the SDF >> step and use the pootle files directly. >> >> > Wish me success. >> >> I wish you a lot of success! ;-) >> >> Herbert >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Where can I find the new AOO4-Logo as a vector format?
My guess is that the TM are not converted to path. Font diven logos could be unstable across different renders engine. -- Sent from my Nokia N900 On Fri Sep 27 04:11:33 2013 David Gerard wrote: > On 27 September 2013 09:23, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > > > But a note: > > The "M" in "TM" is shown cut off and the representation of "TM" is > > different in Internet Explorer and Firefox, once serifs, once without > > serifs, at an official logo should not be. > > > > Display artifact in Firefox. It's fine in Inkscape or on Wikimedia > Commons: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aoo4-main-tm-logo-rgb.svg > > > - d. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >
Re: Reminder: Time to update your entry in the Directory of Volunteers
On 9/27/13, janI wrote: > On 27 September 2013 11:51, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> AFAIK this is the convertor from po to sdf/xliff >> http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/oo2po >> > > this is not quite correct, we do have a couple of other steps as well, look > in wiki (http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_AOO) for a full > explanation (like e.g. gsicheck). > > >> >> You can download the po from the project here: >> https://translate.apache.org/bg/aoo40/export/zip >> > > I would really not recommend that, if you need to download po files, login > to translate.apache.org first, then go to your project. Using a direct > link might give you old data (right now it will not because I just synced > the po files). > > When doing it through the UI, you are sure to get the newest files, while > doing as you suggest gives you whatever is on disk not synchronized with > the database. > > But for sdf file generation, we do not go that way, we use the po file > directory on the vm, because we also have the utilitites on the vm. Ah I see, you are right JanIV, back in the OOo days, we used to have an sdf repo which was easiert to point people to. However it has it's own problems (similar to po) which was the threshold between the version from the previous release, and whatever was on Pootle at the moment (and not even comment about source strings). > > rgds > jan I. > > >> On 9/27/13, janI wrote: >> > On 27 September 2013 08:32, Herbert Duerr wrote: >> > >> >> Николай Нинков wrote: >> >> > Because the translation of Bulgarian is almost ready, please do for >> >> > me >> >> > a >> >> dev >> >> > snapshot with the Bulgarian translation to carry out the necessary >> >> > tests. >> >> > I do not want to promise but I will try to handle the tests so that >> you >> >> turn >> >> > the Bulgarian translation in the new Release 4.0.1. >> >> >> >> I have to admit that I don't know how get a *sdf file out of pootle. >> >> But >> >> if someone can provide me with the latest *sdf file for Bulgarian I'd >> >> volunteer to do a snapshot build for it. I extend that offer also for >> >> Danish as that just got ready. >> >> >> > >> > I think only 2 people know that, which is why I wrote a docu about a >> > year >> > ago. juergen is the real guru. >> > >> > I nobody beats me to it, I will give it a shoot during the weekend (I >> have >> > already done for it danish, but not committed it). >> > >> > Can I commit it to trunk ? >> > >> > rgds >> > jan I. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> The builds would be quite similar to the soon to be expected AOO >> >> 4.0.1, >> >> but only similar because the revision number approved for the official >> >> 4.0.1 release would not have the latest *sdf files. >> >> >> >> I look forward to the near future when we'll be able to skip the SDF >> >> step and use the pootle files directly. >> >> >> >> > Wish me success. >> >> >> >> I wish you a lot of success! ;-) >> >> >> >> Herbert >> >> >> >> - >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- >> Alexandro Colorado >> Apache OpenOffice Contributor >> http://www.openoffice.org >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Where can I find the new AOO4-Logo as a vector format?
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Armin Le Grand > wrote: > > Hi Rob, > > > > > > On 27.09.2013 14:50, Rob Weir wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Alexandro Colorado > wrote: > >>> > >>> My guess is that the TM are not converted to path. Font diven logos > could > >>> be unstable across different renders engine. > >>> -- > >> > >> > >> And we still get many visitors using older browsers, even I.E. 6. So > >> I'd recommend using a rasterized version of the logo on the website or > >> anywhere else we expect random users to visit. There are ways of > >> having both SVG and raster images, but if we're not seeing consistent > >> SVG rendering then it would be safer to just render via Inkscape and > >> use that. > > > > > > There is a way to have a uncritical SVG version - just convert all text > to > > polygons first (and use absolute polygon paths, e.g. in inkscape). That > > version would be safe since it would not use any font references, only > > graphics (polygons). Relying on font rendering in SVG does simply not > work > > for multiple different systems, versions of these and even evtl. > different > > languages and installed fonts. > > > > That might fix this one issue, but what about older browsers like I.E. > 6? Will the logo render perfectly everywhere? We have challenges > getting even HTML and Javascript to work right everywhere. I don't > think we want to risk having our brand image rendering poorly. We've > gone 12 years with a raster logo on the website. It works. > I think you are confusing the render on the browser with using this as a web design element. SVG have been around for ages, the fact that this user asked for a vectorized version (to use for whatever reason) and he happen to notice an issue on the browser, doesnt mean his intentions is to put it on the page. That said, I strongly think we should switch to SVG, natively, is much smaller, and more open. There are also many fallback libraries like svg.js and modernizr for older browser. IE6 > 1% of the market. I think we have bigger issues that are not working on the site than 1% of the visits. > > -Rob > > > > Sincerely, > > Armin > > > > > >> > >> -Rob > >> > >> > >>> Sent from my Nokia N900 > >>> > >>> On Fri Sep 27 04:11:33 2013 David Gerard wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 27 September 2013 09:23, Jörg Schmidt > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> But a note: > >>>>> The "M" in "TM" is shown cut off and the representation of "TM" is > >>>>> different in Internet Explorer and Firefox, once serifs, once without > >>>>> serifs, at an official logo should not be. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Display artifact in Firefox. It's fine in Inkscape or on Wikimedia > >>>> Commons: > >>>> > >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aoo4-main-tm-logo-rgb.svg > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> - d. > >>>> > >>>> - > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Where can I find the new AOO4-Logo as a vector format?
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Armin Le Grand > wrote: > >>> Hi Rob, > >>> > >>> > >>> On 27.09.2013 14:50, Rob Weir wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Alexandro Colorado > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> My guess is that the TM are not converted to path. Font diven logos > could > >>>>> be unstable across different renders engine. > >>>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> And we still get many visitors using older browsers, even I.E. 6. So > >>>> I'd recommend using a rasterized version of the logo on the website or > >>>> anywhere else we expect random users to visit. There are ways of > >>>> having both SVG and raster images, but if we're not seeing consistent > >>>> SVG rendering then it would be safer to just render via Inkscape and > >>>> use that. > >>> > >>> > >>> There is a way to have a uncritical SVG version - just convert all > text to > >>> polygons first (and use absolute polygon paths, e.g. in inkscape). That > >>> version would be safe since it would not use any font references, only > >>> graphics (polygons). Relying on font rendering in SVG does simply not > work > >>> for multiple different systems, versions of these and even evtl. > different > >>> languages and installed fonts. > >>> > >> > >> That might fix this one issue, but what about older browsers like I.E. > >> 6? Will the logo render perfectly everywhere? We have challenges > >> getting even HTML and Javascript to work right everywhere. I don't > >> think we want to risk having our brand image rendering poorly. We've > >> gone 12 years with a raster logo on the website. It works. > >> > > > > And I should mention that we get 200K+ visits/month from mobile phones > > and tablets as well. > > > > And finally, converting to polygons in advance prevents the TrueType > engines from doing its best job at rendering the font hinting at > various scales. Compare it yourself. Take 12-point text, convert to > polygons and then scale up (or down) the polygons. Then try again > with an actual font reference. It might vary by font, but a > well-designed font will render much better if you do not convert to > polygons first. > Umm.. I havent heard this before but AFAIK most fonts are developed on SVG now. Fontforge uses as a core filetype to quote an example. > > -Rob > > > > >> -Rob > >> > >> > >>> Sincerely, > >>> Armin > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> -Rob > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Sent from my Nokia N900 > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri Sep 27 04:11:33 2013 David Gerard wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 27 September 2013 09:23, Jörg Schmidt > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> But a note: > >>>>>>> The "M" in "TM" is shown cut off and the representation of "TM" is > >>>>>>> different in Internet Explorer and Firefox, once serifs, once > without > >>>>>>> serifs, at an official logo should not be. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Display artifact in Firefox. It's fine in Inkscape or on Wikimedia > >>>>>> Commons: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aoo4-main-tm-logo-rgb.svg > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - d. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > - > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>> > >>>> - > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> - > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
RPM Nightly builds?
Hi I wonder where can I get the RPM nigthly builds/snapshots, unfortunately I only see deb files on this page: http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#linux32 -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: RPM Nightly builds?
2 corrections: - I meant the snapshots not the nightly build - The nightly build tar is giving me an error with: "tar: Cannot connect to Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz_2013-09-28_04: resolve failed" On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Hi I wonder where can I get the RPM nigthly builds/snapshots, > unfortunately I only see deb files on this page: > http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#linux32 > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > http://www.openoffice.org > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 > > > > > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Where can I find the new AOO4-Logo as a vector format?
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > > > From: acolor...@gmail.com [mailto:acolor...@gmail.com] On > > Behalf Of Alexandro Colorado > > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 9:43 AM > > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Where can I find the new AOO4-Logo as a vector format? > > > > There is one here: > > http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/main/a > > oo4-main-tm-logo-rgb.svg > > Thank you. > > > But a note: > The "M" in "TM" is shown cut off and the representation of "TM" is > different in Internet Explorer and Firefox, once serifs, once without > serifs, at an official logo should not be. > Can you please test again? > > > > Greetings, > Jörg > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: New AOO 4.0 review article (PC World)
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 25/09/2013 Rob Weir wrote: > >> http://www.pcworld.com/**article/2048446/apache-** >> openoffice-4-0-review-new-**features-easier-to-use-still-**free.html<http://www.pcworld.com/article/2048446/apache-openoffice-4-0-review-new-features-easier-to-use-still-free.html> >> Title is "Apache OpenOffice 4.0 review: New features, easier to use, >> still free" >> > > Nice review, even though one of the initial sentences > --- > Like LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org, Apache OpenOffice "forked" from > Oracle OpenOffice (which grew from StarOffice) in 2010. > --- > it's so dense of errors that makes me wonder where people get information > from (to avoid confusion: the sentence contains several errors, but the > most disturbing one is that it portrays OpenOffice.org as a fork of Oracle > OpenOffice). > > Regards, > Andrea. > > > --**--**- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > I read that, and tweet the publishing unfortunately they dont list the author so no way to get an update. Also they quote the fokrked so maybe he was just being lazy explaining the whole deal. I did point him to the Apache announcement on OpenOffice.org back in 2010. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Where can I find the new AOO4-Logo as a vector format?
Hi please read the intro module on development, download the source code and try to compile Apache OpenOffice. After that there are some small hack tutorials which need some updating but still would be a good place to fix them. Here are the links: http://openoffice.apache.org/source.html http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Using_Cpp_with_the_OOo_SDK On 9/29/13, akshika akalanka wrote: > hi friends, I would love to contribute, How can I start?? I am familiar > with java,c and C# languages > Thank you > > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Jörg Schmidt > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I need a scalable format of the new AOO4 logo, where can I find it? >> >> >> Greetings, >> Jörg >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > Akshika Wijesundara > Department of Computer Science & Engineering > University of Moratuwa > Sri Lanka, > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: how can I import swf file into openoffice's write?
swf file is not really supported into Writer, actually media support is not a strong point in OpenOffice. Writer is a wordprocessor, you will be having more luck with an HTML editor. On 9/28/13, jianlizhao wrote: > how can I import swf file into openoffice's write? > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Where can I find the new AOO4-Logo as a vector format?
Seems to be a pretty odd bug and relies on the browser, I have a sample using Opera, Firefox and Konqueror. http://imagebin.org/272253 As you can see konqueror display the same issue, once I zoom out the logo was displayed correctly. So it has to do with the browser itself. Strangely enough Firefox had no issues. Please play around with the Zoom +/-. On 9/29/13, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > >> -Original Message- >> From: acolor...@gmail.com [mailto:acolor...@gmail.com] On > >> > But a note: >> > The "M" in "TM" is shown cut off and the representation of "TM" is >> > different in Internet Explorer and Firefox, once serifs, >> once without >> > serifs, at an official logo should not be. >> > >> >> Can you please test again? > > Yes. The problem is still present. > > See screenshot: > http://calc-info.de/files/Logo%20display%20error.png > > > Greetings, > Jörg > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Where can I find the new AOO4-Logo as a vector format?
On 9/29/13, Jörg Schmidt wrote: >> From: acolor...@gmail.com [mailto:acolor...@gmail.com] On >> Behalf Of Alexandro Colorado >> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:41 AM >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Where can I find the new AOO4-Logo as a vector format? >> >> Seems to be a pretty odd bug and relies on the browser, I have a >> sample using Opera, Firefox and Konqueror. >> http://imagebin.org/272253 >> >> As you can see konqueror display the same issue, once I zoom out the >> logo was displayed correctly. So it has to do with the browser itself. >> >> Strangely enough Firefox had no issues. Please play around >> with the Zoom +/-. > > No, this has no effect here (FF 16.0.2, Windows 7). > > > Note: > I hope you understand my concern, because I know for example FF 16.0.2 is an > old version. (So I could update.) > It seemed however important to draw attention to the problem (the > representation of the logo in the browser) itself. However, it is for me, > personally, not a serious problem. I'm planning to do a mockup in SVG for the AOO site, you can see it here (no svg yet) http://people.apache.org/~jza/index.html Hopefully tomorrow I'll have it. > > > Greetings, > Jörg > > > > ----- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Where can I find the new AOO4-Logo as a vector format?
On 9/29/13, Jörg Schmidt wrote: >> From: acolor...@gmail.com [mailto:acolor...@gmail.com] On >> Behalf Of Alexandro Colorado >> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:41 AM >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Where can I find the new AOO4-Logo as a vector format? >> >> Seems to be a pretty odd bug and relies on the browser, I have a >> sample using Opera, Firefox and Konqueror. >> http://imagebin.org/272253 >> >> As you can see konqueror display the same issue, once I zoom out the >> logo was displayed correctly. So it has to do with the browser itself. >> >> Strangely enough Firefox had no issues. Please play around >> with the Zoom +/-. > > No, this has no effect here (FF 16.0.2, Windows 7). > > > Note: > I hope you understand my concern, because I know for example FF 16.0.2 is an > old version. (So I could update.) > It seemed however important to draw attention to the problem (the > representation of the logo in the browser) itself. However, it is for me, > personally, not a serious problem. By the way on your screenshot there were 2 issues, one was the Canvas issue, the other was the change of fonts on TM. I hope moving to nodes, the latter was solved on IE. > > > Greetings, > Jörg > > > > ----- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: please tell me that how to download the openoffice SDK,where it is?
You can get it here: http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#source On 9/30/13, 陈杭海 <13625298...@qq.com> wrote: > please tell me that how to download the openoffice SDK,where it is?i do not > find it. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Where can I find the new AOO4-Logo as a vector format?
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Armin Le Grand wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
>
> On 27.09.2013 17:51, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Armin Le Grand
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rob,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27.09.2013 14:50, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Alexandro Colorado
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My guess is that the TM are not converted to path. Font diven logos
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> be unstable across different renders engine.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And we still get many visitors using older browsers, even I.E. 6. So
>>>>>> I'd recommend using a rasterized version of the logo on the website or
>>>>>> anywhere else we expect random users to visit. There are ways of
>>>>>> having both SVG and raster images, but if we're not seeing consistent
>>>>>> SVG rendering then it would be safer to just render via Inkscape and
>>>>>> use that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a way to have a uncritical SVG version - just convert all
>>>>> text to
>>>>> polygons first (and use absolute polygon paths, e.g. in inkscape). That
>>>>> version would be safe since it would not use any font references, only
>>>>> graphics (polygons). Relying on font rendering in SVG does simply not
>>>>> work
>>>>> for multiple different systems, versions of these and even evtl.
>>>>> different
>>>>> languages and installed fonts.
>>>>>
>>>>> That might fix this one issue, but what about older browsers like I.E.
>>>> 6? Will the logo render perfectly everywhere? We have challenges
>>>> getting even HTML and Javascript to work right everywhere. I don't
>>>> think we want to risk having our brand image rendering poorly. We've
>>>> gone 12 years with a raster logo on the website. It works.
>>>>
>>>> And I should mention that we get 200K+ visits/month from mobile phones
>>> and tablets as well.
>>>
>>> And finally, converting to polygons in advance prevents the TrueType
>> engines from doing its best job at rendering the font hinting at
>> various scales. Compare it yourself. Take 12-point text, convert to
>> polygons and then scale up (or down) the polygons. Then try again
>> with an actual font reference. It might vary by font, but a
>> well-designed font will render much better if you do not convert to
>> polygons first.
>>
>
> Lot of arguments, and all somewhat applyable. Do not forget that the
> alternative suggestion was to provide pre-rendered bitmaps. If you compare
> that approach with SVG containing polygons I think the latter will be
> superior in all aspects (size, quality, scalability).
> If the various SVG reneders would render fonts the same on all systems we
> would not have a problem. They do not. Polygons are rendered the same on
> all systems. Font hinting may be lost, but do not forget that 'retina'
> displays and higher DPIs in general will make that 'trick' less important
> over time.
> Also, we are not talking about convincing people to do intense text
> editing without font hinting, it's a logo and only two letters ('TM') are
> small enough to profit from text hinting.
>
> Sincerely,
> Armin
>
> BTW: For experimental test purposes I made a primitive renderer which does
> not even support fonts at all, thus all text in the edit view is rendered
> as polygons with sub-pixel AAing, and it does not look bad at all...
Please look on my site for an SVG source
http://people.apache.org/~jza/index.html
The source is:
I've don't see any issues under firefox/opera althought konqueror couldnt
display it on the current version.
Safari Chrome and IE 10 works pretty ok, only big issue is the spacing
between the and the title text. There are fallbacks techniques for
old browsers to get the PNG like the following CSS workaround
.ooo-logo {
background: url(svg/logo.png) no-repeat 0px 0px;
background: rgba(0,0,0,0) url(svg/logo.svg) no-repeat 0px 0px;
}
http://tobias.is/geeky/webperf/cross-browser-css-technique-f
Re: [WWW] Apache 404 handler
I think that page can be work upon, I don't like the borders on a table,
this could be done on a more XHTML manners using div instead of tables, and
also get rid of the table borders.
Probably a better design, and more useful information like a link to the
site and a < GoBack() link.
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Kay Schenk
> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I notice a lot of dead links gives a horrible default error. Can we
> put
> > a
> > >> more "design friendly" error handler for missing or outdated links.
> Also
> > >> add some Javascript to redirect back to homepage (or back page).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> function delayer(){
> > >> window.location = "
> > <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.openoffice.org">http://www.openoffice.org</a>
> > >> "
> > >> }
> > >>
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Alexandro Colorado
> > >> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > >> http://www.openoffice.org
> > >> 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
> > >>
> > >
> > > Someone else mentioned this recently. I *thought* we had a custom 404
> at
> > > one time, but I could be mistaken. This is a relatively easy server
> side
> > > configure, rather than JS. Any thoughts on what we would like it to
> say?
> > >
> >
> > We do have a custom 404 handler, here:
> >
> >
> >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/docs/custom_404.html
> >
> > -Rob
> >
>
> Yes, I found this also but haven't had time to get back to this thread.
> There are some odd situations in which this doesn't work (???). So, some
> investigation needed.
>
> In any case, a link to the home page can certainly be added. Or anything
> else we might find useful.
>
>
> > > We could also include some fun pictures!
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> >
> -
> > > MzK
> > >
> > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> > > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> > > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
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> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> -
> MzK
>
> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
>
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Re: Edit NL site
Hi Arthur, long time no see. Just a few minutes/hours, staging works so you can verify you dont break the page and also keep the content moderated. There is a different script to push your moderations to publish. http://openoffice.apache.org/docs/edit-cms.html On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Arthur Buijs wrote: > Hello, > > How long does it take (under normal circumstances) for edits to be visible > in staging? I am using the CMS GUI tool. > > -- Arthur > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: I'm ready to give up on Open Office
My simplest recomendation is to keep a stable and a 'bleeding edge' version. That way you can use a stable for really long, complex documents and a bleeding edge for simpler documents. I did something like that for my browsers as well as having different flavors. Event today I keep Caligra, AbiWord and AOO Writer for handling my documents. The freedom of free software allows you to expand the offering. Currently I look at abiword and gnumerics and they have evolved from the last time I used them. Also OpenOffice.org 3.2 which was rock solid was a very good alternative still available. http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/index.html If you think about it, Microsoft has a 3 years cycle for MSO, so in theory you will be doing the same waiting on MSO 2015/6. OpenOffice.org has a 6/8 month cycle and major releases. Saying all that, I would also invite you to participate on our QA efforts generating good bug reports so we can isolate these bugs, more information at http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html On 10/5/13, Bob Lee wrote: > I've been using Open Office for my personal use for years. Ever since > "upgrading" to 4.0, I've been having more problems with the program > randomly crashing than all of the years before. And each time it crashes, > I have to rebuild half the data and all of the formatting because the > recovery function is an absolute joke. > > I've tried using Libre Office, but I don't like how they handled certain > functions. I've just upgraded to OO 4.01, but the next time this damn > thing crashed I'm uninstalling it and I'll find something else to use, even > if that means having to shell out money for MSOffice. > > Its just so sad to see what this once great open source product has become. > > Bob Lee > Merrimack, NH > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: CD
Hello Edgardo, I can recomend using PortableApps as an alaternative for distribution, since USB memories are fairly cheap and allow you to not going through the installation but only run it from the USB and transfer it to as many computers as you have access to without needing to configure it multiple times: http://portableapps.com/apps/office/openoffice_portable On 10/5/13, Drew Jensen wrote: > Howdy Edgardo, > > Well, the project doesn't maintain a CD any longer, in fact it never had > one that a person could ask for though it would hand them out at > conferences (also a thing of the past), the disk image was simply available > for download. > > I suppose you need this disk image ASAP? There is a disk image from an > older release which I could update to 4.0.1 fairly quickly, it would not be > from the project and I could not make it look like it was and you would > have to buy it (~5.00 US) on the upside I could include additional items > (extensions) that the project will not include. > > So, if you could wait a week perhaps I could help, but no sooner then that. > > //drew > > > On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Edgardo Anaya wrote: > >> I am in need of OO 3 CDs if there r any available Please. I am not a >> corporation nor I am Rich. PLEASE Help. >> > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Edit NL site
i notice that, i think that's on the markup or the version of the header is pointing to. I need to get into my svn repo to double check that. Maybe Rob can help here faster than I can. On 10/6/13, Arthur Buijs wrote: > Hello, > > I have updated the Dutch NL-page to get a more professional and consistent > look-and-feel. > > But our NL-site still points to 4.0.0 and the text next to the logo is not > translated. > > Where can I find this? > > -- Arthur > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- >> Afzender:Alexandro Colorado >> Verstuurd: Zondag 6 Oktober 2013 12:06 >> Aan: dev >> Onderwerp: Re: Edit NL site >> >> Hi Arthur, long time no see. >> Just a few minutes/hours, staging works so you can verify you dont break >> the page and also keep the content moderated. There is a different script >> to push your moderations to publish. >> http://openoffice.apache.org/docs/edit-cms.html >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Arthur Buijs wrote: >> >> > Hello, >> > >> > How long does it take (under normal circumstances) for edits to be >> > visible >> > in staging? I am using the CMS GUI tool. >> > >> > -- Arthur >> > >> > ----- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Alexandro Colorado >> Apache OpenOffice Contributor >> http://www.openoffice.org >> 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [announce] genLang extract is ready.
On 8/31/13, janI wrote: > Hi > > I am pleased to inform you, that I have reached a major milestone with > genLang. > > genLang is now integrated in the build system (for extraction), and I have > carefully tested that "genLang extract" (generation of .pot template files) > is 100% identical to the existing system (except for the approx 5 errors in > the old system). > > Sources are in branches/l10n40 (based on trunk approx start august) > R1519182. > > The work flow is: > > 1) run "build --all --genPO" or "build --genPO" > 2) on pootle server: > "cd aooGenLang; svn up" > "pootle update_stores" (with parms as normal) > 3) on translate.a.o >"update against templates" > 4) translate > 5) on pootle server: > "pootle sync_stores" (with parms as normal) > "cd aooGenLang; svn commit" > > Now translated files are available in our source tree. > > I have tested all these steps. We can make a number of elegant > optimizations, > a) allow committers to commit directly in pootle (removes 5) > b) allow committers to run "svn up" (req. a simple php page and removes > 2,3) > Excellent news. > If someone could review the branch, it would be real nice. Also I need to > check build on windows/mac. I'll try to do this if I get time this week. > > In the meantime I will integrate "genLang convert" so we can get all > current translations into the new system. > > and finally integrate "genLang merge" that generates sources with > languages. > > rgds > jan I. > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Open Office
On 10/7/13, PJH wrote: > Stirred up a wasps nest did I? Here is the sequence. Started at the > Official Apache Open Office site. Hit download. When I could not install > noted I had gotten an .exe file even though I had specified Mac. Here is the first issue, usually when you go to download you should see a green bar saying: Download Apache OpenOffice Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 for If you didnt get Mac or OSX here, then is the first bug, and should be reported. I would need to know which specific version of OSX did you have, browser, and version of the browser for further testing. the javascript is builted to recognize your OS, if you got an exe it should only be Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_...exe > Went back > and started reading more. Found that SourceForge is the preferred mirror > site for AOO. Downloaded again and then I also found the version was 4.0.0 Does this mean you went straight to SourceForge? Or did you went to the additional download packages here: http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html > and for a 32 bit Mac. Number 3 did down load as 4.0.1 but I could not do a > normal install. AND I was now getting something called "Conduit" which > wanted to claim my window and force me to use their web browser. I was I google for conduit and sourceforge, this software has nothing to do with what you talking here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/conduit/ """ High performance, real-time data analysis engine capable of processing from various sources simultaneously (syslog, files, sockets, etc). Triggers internal and user-defined events based on built-in and user-defined rules. """ Nothing to do with browsers or managers. If you did get it from an false exe, it wouldnt be able to install on your OSX system. > able to partially remove the software but not all so it suddenly shows up. Please link to the website of the software. > Usually when I do not want it of course. This had to have shown up during > downloads from the official AOO Web page during one of the automatic move > to mirror sites. I am now the proud use of Libre Office which works almost this behaviour has nothing to do with the website of AOO, nor it has any capabilities to do this. Unless you got it from somewhere else (Sourceforge). > the same as the old Open Office. So glad I had not donated to AOO yet. I > know nothing more than what I said here so do not reply. I will dump any > further emails from AOO unread. > > PJH > > > On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> Apache OpenOffice handles this through sourceforge, we dont include >> any other application besides the Apache OpenOffice dmg file for OSX. >> Please verify you download from the official download page >> http://www.openoffice.org/download >> >> URL should be >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg >> >> Please let us know if this works or not. >> >> On 10/7/13, PJH wrote: >> > I have used Open Office for many years. In attempting to get the >> > latest >> > version SourceForge was the defacto mirror. That download included a >> nasty >> > piece of software from "conduit" which takes over my computer. Went to >> > another mirror site and cannot open the download. I am on a Mac and >> > have >> > been since I first used Open Office. It is crying shame the way Apache >> has >> > ruined the software. I would have gone to forums but I cannot even set >> up >> > an account let alone donate. >> > >> > Please do not bother to answer this email because I have moved on to >> Libre >> > Office. >> > >> > Patrick J. Harris >> > >> >> >> -- >> Alexandro Colorado >> Apache OpenOffice Contributor >> http://www.openoffice.org >> > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Update Icons for AOO 4.1
I agree AOO needs a fresher look and I like there is a stipulated deadline. Will hope to contribute. -- Sent from my Nokia N900 On Wed Oct 9 22:01:09 2013 Samer Mansour wrote: > Hello, > > I'm proposing to have the icons (and related assets) updated for AOO 4.1 > release. I would like to take the responsibility to see this gets done. > > Here is the icons that need to be updated: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Desktop+Icons > > Related asset: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4.1+-+Application+And+Launcher > > You can see two examples of ideas on the first link. You can also suggest > your own ideas verbally by commenting on the wiki page or visually by > attaching it to the wiki. (Please don't reply ideas in this mailing list, > let us know if you have trouble) > > I am putting a deadline for the idea submission and discussion in 30 > days, November 9th, 2013. > Once we reach the deadline, we will have a separate discussion for > optimizing for the best user experience. > > This is not a contest or a call for public proposals. This is regular, > needs to be done, no-bikeshedding-please work. When the deadline Nov 9th > arrives, if there is more than one viable solution, we will try to reach > consensus without a end user vote. > eg. We will not be doing what we did with the logo, that was a special > case because it is the face of AOO. > > Samer Mansour
Re: Open office
Not at the moment. On 10/12/13, Alan wrote: > Are there any plans to make soft wear available for I Pad? > Alan T. > > Sent from my iPad > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Incorrect use of the AOO logo
Can you give us more information of it's use to define how is this used. Also trademark situations are to be dealt with apache foundation directly: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ tradema...@apache.org On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > > I have found in a Linux distribution a probably not permitted use of the > Apache OpenOffice logos (seagulls). Who should I inform? > > > Greetings, > Jörg > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Incorrect use of the AOO logo
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:57 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
> Hello,
>
> > From: acolor...@gmail.com [mailto:acolor...@gmail.com] On
> > Behalf Of Alexandro Colorado
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:31 AM
> > To: dev
> > Subject: Re: Incorrect use of the AOO logo
> >
> > Can you give us more information of it's use to define how is
> > this used.
>
> Yes.
>
> I have found in the German magazine "Linux Magazin" (11/2013) on the
> enclosed DVD, a Linux distribution ('Ubuntu privacy remix protected
> pangolin 12.04r1') that combines the AOO logo with the software LibreOffice
> in the Start menu.
>
> I've uploaded a screenshot here:
> http://calc-info.de/files/logo-problem.png
>
>
Agreed, please email forward email tradema...@apache.org
>
>
> Greetings,
> Jörg
>
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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>
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Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module
Welcome Emery, please try to forward any question that you may have. Depending on the area you wish and ur technical background it would be the speed to generate a contribution to the project. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Emery Shepard wrote: > Good afternoon I'm an IT manager at a law firm that has gone bad to > school. > One of my current assignments is to get involved with an open source > project. I've used open office so I figured this would be a good place to > start. > > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: wiki.o.o and copyright.
Probably out of date, why not commiting the change? On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 12:03 PM, janI wrote: > Hi > > due to a question I got, I read these 2 pages: > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOOW:Copyrights > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Authors_licensing_declaration > > First page refers to oracle, and second page does not even mention the > apache license. > > Is that really how we want it ? > > I am not a legal adviser, but it seems wrong to me. > > rgds > jan I. > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: wiki.o.o and copyright.
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 12:40 PM, janI wrote: > On 20 October 2013 19:36, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > > Probably out of date, why not commiting the change? > > > > Committing what change, there are no changes outstanding ? > > If you mean rewriting the 2 pages, then its way above my head, I am no > license expert. > We already have a license, is just a matter of copy-pasting. Or linking to the current one, althought I preffer the first one. > > rgds > jan I. > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 12:03 PM, janI wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > due to a question I got, I read these 2 pages: > > > > > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOOW:Copyrights > > > > > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Authors_licensing_declaration > > > > > > First page refers to oracle, and second page does not even mention the > > > apache license. > > > > > > Is that really how we want it ? > > > > > > I am not a legal adviser, but it seems wrong to me. > > > > > > rgds > > > jan I. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Alexandro Colorado > > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > > http://www.openoffice.org > > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 > > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Mobile device support?
IOS is not compatible with AOO, sorry. -- Sent from my Nokia N900 On Mon Oct 21 16:15:32 2013 Keith Joslyn wrote: > Hi > > Is there any intention/willingness to develope/deploy a version of your > great office application (OpenOffice). It has been my choice of office > products since 'StarOffice' on OS/2. And I continue to use OpenOffice on > my OSX & Linux distro's. I would love to be able to use it on my iPhone > & iPad > > Regards > > Jos Joslyn > > Sent from my iPhone > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >
Re: Downloads by Country (updated data)
On Mon Oct 21 16:09:37 2013 Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Misha Konoplitskiy > wrote: > > Rob, i'm promoting Apache Open Office in Ukraine. Do you have an e-mail > > list of companies which uses Open Office? > > I want to automate its work and help with support. > > > > Sorry, we don't have a database of OpenOffice users. In the Sun days > there was a user registration screen in the OpenOffice.org install > wizard, but we have removed that screen and do not have access to that > database. The old bizdev site used to have a database of businesses using OOo around the world. However since the change to kenai the ods got lost. The html version could still be available on the legacy svn. > But if you want to attract more Ukrainian volunteers, there are > certainly things that can be done, like: > > 1) Complete the UI translation into Ukrainian (already 84% done) > > 2) Translate the key website pages (around 30 pages) > > Maybe a good first step is to add text to this page: > > http://www.openoffice.org/ua/ > > We could put something like: > > "Call for Volunteers!" > > The Apache OpenOffice project is currently working on completing the > translation of OpenOffice 4.0 into Ukrainian. We will also make a > Ukrainian-language website with useful information about OpenOffice. > If you can help with these tasks we welcome all volunteers. For more > information write to l...@openoffice.apache.org". > > If you can translate that into Ukrainian I can add this to the website. > > Regards, > > -Rob > > > -Rob > > > Regards! > > > > > > > > > > 2013/10/21 Rob Weir > > > > > Updated table here: > > > > > > http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html > > > > > > The last update was in early August. > > > > > > The top 10 has remained stable. The first change in the table is at > > > position #12, where Belgium overtook India for downloads. > > > > > > But good news is that Brazil, India and Belgium have now each crossed > > > the 1 million download mark, which makes them "Apache OpenOffice > > > Superpowers" in my book ;-) > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > -Rob > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >
Re: Extensions
Please check the documentation to update your extension for 4.0 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0#API_changes_between_3.4_and_4.0 Changes can be as simple as just add the few new tags on the XML from the xcu. On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Vladislav Stevanovic < stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com> wrote: > I translating Help for AOO. I found in one line this: > Have a look at http://www.dmaths.org";>www.dmaths.org > for > a set of additional %PRODUCTNAME Math icons and macros. > I looked this site and look what I found there: > "Dmaths will NOT work in Apache-OpenOffice 4.0 presently. Please get and > install the up-to-date version of LibreOffice instead." > This is not good message for AOO. > We had in Serbia simmilar problem with one of the most-frequently-used > extension in Serbian. Thanks for Jörg Schmidt he made version for AOO 4.0, > but we have still some problems here, because old version of this extension > is still visible on AOO Extension site! It is silent message for all: this > is not working on AOO, but here is on our site. What conclusion will create > most of visitors whe they see this? So, I have some propositions: > 1) Administrators must have create the rule: extensions on AOO site > "Extension" must declared as appropriate or non-appropriate for AOO4.0. > 2) In future we must made restriction for those extensions on our site > 3) There is some the most frequently used extensions. What we can do to > ensure that this extension works in AOO 4.0? Can we invited authors of this > extensions to made version for AOO4.0? Can we create some fork, if it is > totaly legal (for example, for extensions where authors of extensions do > not want to make corrections for AOO 4.0 and when licence permit forks? > > Regarsd, > Wlada > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Site is up and running here, maybe he went to a different domain, please go to http://openoffice.org On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:47 PM, wrote: > Hello > I am unable to access my open office. > Can you please assist me? > Thanks for your reply, > Ms. Phyllis -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Websites headers (forum, wiki, main site, ...)
The issue here is that there is not a hackable instance of the forum, so is hard to do any commiting. you can look at my private header template for the main site: http://people.apache.org/~jza/index.html I could produce one for the forum, but this could only be hackable by myself, making development quite slow. I could have a svn instance (or git) but again, not sure if that many people will do the commiting or even know how to commit. From my experience with the community many people don't know how to work with DSCM and make their own clones as opposed to dealing with merges. On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Ricardo Berlasso wrote: > >> My best attempt is on this Draw file ... >>> http://people.apache.org/~rgb-**es/Forum-Header-2.odg<http://people.apache.org/%7Ergb-es/Forum-Header-2.odg> >>> >> there is agreement on the forum header design and on changing the >> download icon. Which are the steps needed to implement this change on all >> NL forums? >> > > Changing the download icon is easy since we already have the updated > graphics. > > Changing header, if what we have so far is your Draw file, needs some > adaptation work to the forum CSS. I've already done it for another > candidate header and, unless somebody else is going to do it, I can try > producing a CSS implementation for this one too, even though this one is > harder since backgrounds need to be adapted. > > The last step will be materially putting the new files online, but this is > not particularly problematic. > > Regards, > Andrea. > > --**--**- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: [INFO] AOO wiki and forum.
I assume time is in UTC... On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:03 AM, janI wrote: > Hi. > > Just a polite information. > > --- wiki.o.o --- > will be changed to https:// only after friday 1 november 16:00. > > http:// will automatically redirect to https:// > > Test shows that everything will work, but users get warnings due to mixed > https:// http:// pages. As described earlier this is something that can > easily be changed at database level by the admins. > > The service interruption should be < 1 minute. > > --- forum.o.o --- > will be changed to https:// after friday 1 november 16:00 > > http:// will automatically redirect to https:// > > In case of unexpected problems (see test above), https:// and http:// will > be running in parallel, and the redirect will be made next weekend (8 > november). > > The service interruption should be < 10 minutes a couple of times for each > forum. > > We will keep status.a.o updated > > On behalf of infra > jan I. > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Usability in OpenOffice
Yes you are very welcome, there are some tips in order to make the participation go smoothly. Please learn the OpenOffice way of doing QA, get familiar with our tools and make sure your students participate activily with the feedback. Check our introductory modules at http://openoffice.apache.org A somewhat big difference in Free software projects is that is very individualistic in therms of users so even if it's a group we only see individual efforts, so is a good idea having each member introduce themselves and participate on each merits. Just my couple of cents on the topics. -- Sent from my Nokia N900 On Sun Nov 3 13:47:01 2013 silvia.acu...@uam.es wrote: > Dear Members, > > I am a professor at the Universidad Autónoma de Madrid and Universidad > Politécnica de Madrid. My students from the Universidad Politécnica de > Madrid and the Universidad Autónoma de Madrid want to participate in > the project OpenOffice. > > We are interested in working on usability issues. We perform usability > tests in order to find aspects to improve the usability in the > OpenOffice application. > > The end result of usability testing will be shared to the community. > > We would like to know if it is possible to participate in the project. > > Best regards, > > Silvia Teresita Acuña > Departamento de Ingeniería Informática > Escuela Politécnica de Madrid > Universidad Autónoma de Madrid > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >
Re: Call for Automation BVT volunteer for AOO4.1
I reported this a while back: http://markmail.org/message/x2plcngb6xczxbch On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Liu Ping wrote: > > > Hi ,Kay > > Maybe you can get RPM packs for 32-bit Linux snapshot. from > > http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/ > > > > Hi. These snapshot packs are all "deb" format, not "rpm". I don't know what > the decisions were concerning these setups. > > OK. I will see what I can find out about this. There ARE nightly Linux-32 > rpm packs but not from the SNAPSHOT trunk. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Liu Ping > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, all. > > > > > > > > BVT(Build Verification Testing) is a set of tests that run on new > > build > > > to > > > > verify that whether the build is testable or not, which play an > > > important > > > > role in software quality > > > > > > > > Encourage more efforts in community to engage in automation BVT for > > AOO > > > > 4.1 (refer item 5 in AOO 4.1 Test Arrangement) > > > > > > > > (1)First, Welcome volunteers familiar with BVT according by the > > guidence > > > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/BVT > > > > > > > > > > Hi -- > > > > > > Currently, there are no RPM packs for 32-bit Linux snapshot. > > > Does anyone know why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Below are prerequisites: > > > > > > > > 1) 1)Environment tool: SVN Client, JDK, Ant > > > > > > > > 2) 2)Soft Skills: > > > > > > > > · a.Basic skills about Windows Command line, > > > > Linux/Mac Terminal > > > > > > > > · b.Basic knowledge of Java > > > > > > > > If have some problems, please put forward issues that block you. I will > > > > help to resolve it. > > > > > > > > (2)Second, Notice new build and collect volunteers’ BTV result. > > > > > > > > Please post your name/email and your platform , When new build is ready > > > I > > > > will notice by email. > > > > > > > > Volunteer post your result on > > > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/BVT_Report, thx. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > - > > > MzK > > > > > > “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, > > > Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” > > > -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax > > > > > > > > > -- > - > MzK > > “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, > Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” > -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OSBA Office Interoperability Workshop last week
he proposal I have to confess that I don't really >> understand how this should work in detail. MPL is category-b and we can >> link against it but we can't host any MPL code in our repo. And it would >> work on completely new code only that is quite well encapsulated and >> modularized. It can be potentially an option for some of their new >> filters but that have to be checked in detail and is only one aspect. We >> talk about million lines of code mainly. >> >> It was also mentioned that mixing of ALv2 and MPL code is possible in >> general and that it is more a problem of the ASF and the processes >> applied to projects here at Aapche. I was thinking what it should mean, >> confuse people even more or an indirect recommendation that OpenOffice >> should be hosted somewhere else? I stopped thinking about it because >> it's out of scope I think. >> >> If people think I misunderstood things or summarized it incorrect, >> please feel free to correct me or add missing information. >> >> I shared this with you because AOO is a community project and such >> discussion have to be discussed with the community in the end anyway. I >> found it interesting to learn from their experience of the first project >> and to learn what the problems of real users are. It was interesting to >> see that people from more the outside of the projects are interested to >> force or seek ways for collaboration on the same common goal, that is >> the best free office productivity suite. Well they belong to the project >> as users and are very important because without users we wouldn't have >> neither AOO nor LO. >> >> More information will be shared when it becomes available. And hopefully >> some volunteers are interested to start working on the OSBA patches to >> get as much as possible out of them. >> >> >> Juergen >> >> >> [1] http://www.osb-alliance.de/working-groups/wg-office-interoperability/ >> >> [2] http://www.osb-alliance.de/working-groups/projekte/ooxml-filter/ >> >> [3] >> >> http://www.osb-alliance.de/working-groups/projekte/ooxml-filter/projektergebnisse-ooxml-filter/ >> >> >> >> ----- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > Thank you for this very important post. > > The world of open source licenses is indeed difficult to understand at > times, and I know you have had many exchanges with ASF legal on this one. > > I hope the licensing issues can be resolved. > > For what's it worth, a link to the MPLv2 licensing page: > > https://www.mozilla.org/MPL/2.0/ > > > > -- > - > MzK > > “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, > Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” > -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Call for Automation BVT volunteer for AOO4.1
Also some RPM don't install correctly, there are some issues with them, i think some testing is needed. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: > > On 11/5/2013 10:32 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Alexandro Colorado >> wrote: >> >> I reported this a while back: >>> http://markmail.org/message/x2plcngb6xczxbch >>> >>> yes...we have NIGHTLY 32 bit RPMS buildt from "trunk" but not >> "snapshot" >> builds -- those built from the snapshot trunk -- at the moment. >> > > I believe the rpm was failing on the snapshot, and I did not have the time > to sort that. I'll try with the rpms, and if it succeeds we'll leave that > running. > > > A. > > >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Kay Schenk >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Liu Ping >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi ,Kay >>>>> Maybe you can get RPM packs for 32-bit Linux snapshot. from >>>>> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/ >>>>> >>>>> Hi. These snapshot packs are all "deb" format, not "rpm". I don't know >>>> >>> what >>> >>>> the decisions were concerning these setups. >>>> >>>> OK. I will see what I can find out about this. There ARE nightly >>>> Linux-32 >>>> rpm packs but not from the SNAPSHOT trunk. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Kay Schenk >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Liu Ping >>>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BVT(Build Verification Testing) is a set of tests that run on new >>>>>>> >>>>>> build >>>>> >>>>>> to >>>>>> >>>>>>> verify that whether the build is testable or not, which play an >>>>>>> >>>>>> important >>>>>> >>>>>>> role in software quality >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Encourage more efforts in community to engage in automation BVT >>>>>>> >>>>>> for >>> >>>> AOO >>>>> >>>>>> 4.1 (refer item 5 in AOO 4.1 Test Arrangement) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (1)First, Welcome volunteers familiar with BVT according by the >>>>>>> >>>>>> guidence >>>>> >>>>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/BVT >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently, there are no RPM packs for 32-bit Linux snapshot. >>>>>> Does anyone know why? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Below are prerequisites: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) 1)Environment tool: SVN Client, JDK, Ant >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) 2)Soft Skills: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> · a.Basic skills about Windows Command line, >>>>>>> Linux/Mac Terminal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> · b.Basic knowledge of Java >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If have some problems, please put forward issues that block you. I >>>>>>> >>>>>> will >>> >>>> help to resolve it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (2)Second, Notice new build and collect volunteers’ BTV result. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please post your name/email and your platform , When new build is >>>>>>> >>>>>> ready >>> >>>> I >>>>>> >>>>>>> will notice by email. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Volunteer post your result on >>>>>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/BVT_Report, thx. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> - >>> >>>> MzK >>>>>> >>>>>> “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, >>>>>> Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” >>>>>>-- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>> - >>> >>>> MzK >>>> >>>> “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, >>>> Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” >>>>-- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Alexandro Colorado >>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor >>> http://www.openoffice.org >>> 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Please use PDF when you finish your coursework, if you want you can also use the OpenOffice portable app to carry OpenOffice whenever you go (school lab). http://portableapps.com/node/37720 On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Marouf Ahmed wrote: > I finished my coursework on Open Office with great difficulty. I have > outrageously angry with the software it took me half an hour to sort out > images in my coursework. When I opened the document in Microsoft word > viewer (as my school uses Microsoft office) all my coursework had messed up > I was furious to find that the call outs that I used in open office did not > appear on Microsoft office and that some images had got out of place, it > had also rearranged my diagram. > > > > Sent from Windows Mail -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: newbie
Please read up the l10n intro module, here: http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html You would need a pootle account and to get in the ES-CA project. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 5:39 AM, aleix piulachs wrote: > Hallo, i'm Aleix PiulachsI'm from Catalonia - SpainI'd like to translate > openoffice at Catalanish language buti don't know how can i to do itIf you > can to help me for not to erode in vain my effort..thanks > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Hello
Please also check the q...@openoffice.apache.org we are actively looking for testers and also write testcases for OpenOffice. First step should be review the introductory module for QA and read the testing area: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Daniel Nilsson wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not sure if this mail should be sent to the dev, or user mailing list. > I have been working as a developer for a year now and I'm interesting in > learning more about testing. So i thought I'd look into the open source > scene. From what i have read, triage is a good place to start. > > My experience so far comes from writing automated test cases but I'm > interested in getting a wider knowledge in testing. > > Regards > Daniel > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: [LAZY CONSENSUS] maintenance of ooo-wiki2-vm.a.o and ooo-forums.a.o
+1 good luck, if i can be of any help. -- Sent from my Nokia N900 On Mon Dec 23 16:58:32 2013 Kay Schenk wrote: > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Hagar Delest > wrote: > > > Top posting, > > > > Hi Jan, > > > > This seems very good. Thanks for helping! > > For the record, the members of the administrators [forum] group are: > > - imacat (group leader) > > - Hagar Delest > > - acknak > > - andrew.rist > > > > I confirm that the forum admins already deal with: > > - the user management (ban, account activation, password reset, change > > of forum group (Volunteers, Moderators, ...) > > - the forum management that doesn't need server access (creation of > > forum sections, groups & sections permissions, attachments/mail/PM > > settings, ...) > > > > Hagar > > > > +1 to the proposal > > and thanks for the additional clarification and thoughts by Jan and Rob, > and for the forum admin list by Hagar. It would be good for us to > document this also. > > > > > > > > > Le 22/12/2013 17:27, jan i a écrit : > > > > Hi > > > > > > based on a polite push from a good infra colleague, I have decided > > > to present yet another proposal for maintaining ooo-wiki2-vm.a.o and > > > ooo-forums.a.o (I already maintain translate-vm2.a.o since this is a > > > shared > > > service). > > > > > > This will be proposal number 6, therefore I have allowed myself to > > > cut all the indirect language. The last proposal was not rejected, > > > but another admin and 2 other PMC spoke directly against it, as a > > > consequence I saw it as impossible to implement. > > > > > > I ask for lazy consensus before january 2 2014. Meaning anyone who > > > have anything against the proposal please speak up before that date. > > > Since the proposal has a direct influence on the vm-team, the > > > proposal needs a positive indication from the members of this group > > > in order to be decided. > > > > > > = proposal = > > > > > > Wiki.o.o is maintained by wiki users given administrator status. This > > > includes monitoring users/submissions and watching/controlling spam. > > > > > > The single forums on forum.o.o is maintained/moderated by forum users > > > given > > > administrator status. This includes activating new users, monitoring > > > users/submissions and watching/controlling spam. > > > > > > All request for changes in the application (mediawiki, php2bb) > > > configuration, like new images, new plugins or general setup, must be > > > mailed to this list (dev@), with a lazy consensus decision of min. 72 > > > hours. The sysadm will without further instruction implement the > > > changes as > > > soon as possible (depending on sysadm availability) after the > > > decision is final. > > > > > > The sysadm has the responsibility to keep the vms including > > > applications updated and configured in accordance with the infra > > > guidelines and be responsive to wishes from the community. > > > > > > The sysadm is the contact point to infra, and is expected to be > > > online on #asfinfra on a daily basis, or at least check if there are > > > any calls for attention. > > > > > > Downtime (excluding emergencies) will be announced on this list > > > (dev@) at least 72 hours in advance. The appl. admins are expected > > > to inform the respective user groups. > > > > > > In order to ensure the highest availability of our servers, we have a > > > vm-team, globally distributed. Members of the vm-team team are > > > expected to react on mail alerts (from nagios/circonus) during > > > normal daytime. The vm-team can: > > > - stop/start the application > > > - reboot the server > > > In case of an incident, please sent an email to the team, so we all > > > know what happened. > > > > > > The sysadm decides when to upgrade/change the vm. Help from any > > > member of the vm-team is appreciated as long as it is coordinated in > > > advance (a direct mail with response is sufficient). > > > > > > I suggest myself for sysadm, and jsc, pescetti, arist and imacat for > > > vm-team. Of course my suggestion depends on the willingness of the > > > mentioned people. > > > > > > = > > > > > > I have on purpose not written anything about what happens if the > > > agreement is not followed, I assume people who agree to it also > > > follow it. IMHO its important that the vm-team positively agrees. > > > > > > If anybody else want the role of sysadm, I will be happy to step > > > down, and assist as vm-team member. > > > > > > I wish you all some relaxing days. > > > > > > rgds > > > jan I. > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > > > -- > - > MzK > > "Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good
Re: New committer: Tsutomu Uchino (hanya)
Hi Hanya, good to see more developers on the PMC. Hope your insights will keep this project afloat and thriving. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Vladislav Stevanovic < stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Tsutomu! > We do not know each other, but I noticed your effort in Ooo (Aoo) project > (as Hanya). I am glad that you are here (in formal way), where you belong > for a long time... > > Regards, > Wlada > > > > 2013/12/28 Hagar Delest > > > Welcome! > > Nice to see another regular forum user (contributing a lot for macros) > > part of the PMC. > > :-) > > > > Hagar > > > > > > Le 28/12/2013 10:38, Andrea Pescetti a écrit : > > > > The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice has asked > >> Tsutomu Uchino to become a committer and we are pleased to announce > >> that he has accepted and taken the ID "hanya". > >> > >> A warm welcome to Tsutomu ! > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Andrea, on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > >> > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Performance measurements on Mac vs others
Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for Mac since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an aqua version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the FAQ it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with the display manager. That said besides starting up, I am not sure how would that impact performance of the application when performing common tasks. However, since I don't own a mac, I would like to open the discussion to the community and get some feedback regardling performance on cold boots, between the different OS. For 4.0.1 I got times of 4 seconds to boot OpenOffice on my Linux box with 4GB of RAM and a core dou chip. Would be nice if people can time the boot time of this application. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Am 31.12.13 18:48, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: > > Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for >> Mac >> since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an >> aqua >> version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the FAQ >> it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with >> the display manager. >> > Do you have a link to this FAQ. This most be a realy old one. No we need > no X11 on Mac OS X http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/X11.html " X11 comes pre-installed on Mac OSX 10.5, so you can install OpenOffice.org<http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/ooo.html>directly." > > >> That said besides starting up, I am not sure how would that impact >> performance of the application when performing common tasks. >> >> However, since I don't own a mac, I would like to open the discussion to >> the community and get some feedback regardling performance on cold boots, >> between the different OS. >> >> For 4.0.1 I got times of 4 seconds to boot OpenOffice on my Linux box with >> 4GB of RAM and a core dou chip. >> > On my Core 3 Doal Core 1.8 GHz Macbook Air with SSD it takes less then 3 > seconds. On my MacBook 2008 model 2.4 GHz Core2Duo it takes more then 8 > seconds. But this is because the HD of this model es realy slow. > > Greetings Raphael > > ----- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Performance measurements on Mac vs others
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Am 31.12.13 19:31, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: > >> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Raphael Bircher >> wrote: >> >> Am 31.12.13 18:48, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: >>> >>> Hi I am in a disucussion with a friend about how slow is OpenOffice for >>> >>>> Mac >>>> since it relies on X11. I thought that X11 was no longer needed and an >>>> aqua >>>> version was provided, but it seems this was not true since reading the >>>> FAQ >>>> it says that X11 is included with AOO -- hence the dependency still with >>>> the display manager. >>>> >>>> Do you have a link to this FAQ. This most be a realy old one. No we >>> need >>> no X11 on Mac OS X >>> >> >> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/X11.html >> >> " X11 comes pre-installed on Mac OSX 10.5, so you can install >> OpenOffice.org<http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/ >> faq/installing/ooo.html>directly." >> > Yea, 10.5 comes with x11. But this dosn't mean we use it. Your URL is > prehistoric, and describe the install process of a 2.x (wich still use X11) > > 3.x and 4.x use definitifly no X11 > ok good to know, perhaps we should update this page with more current information since this page keeps coming up on the top google search for OpenOffice on Mac at least on my side of the rock. > > Greetings Raphael > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Interest in Volunteering With the OpenOffice Project
Welcome Tyler, and please feel free to review our documentation and ask anything that you need further information or have any type of comments towards it. Also please communicate with the qa mailing list at qa@openoffice.apache.orgwith further information about it. On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Tyler Kavanaugh wrote: > Hello all: > > My name is Tyler Kavanaugh, and I am from Kansas, in the United States. I > would very much like to be a part of the OpenOffice project, with a focus > on QA/accessibility, as I am a blind user who uses screen-access software > to accomplish everyday tasks on the computer. I am aware that the product > recently (as of November or December 2013) finished its implementation of > MSAA/IAccessible2, and this has piqued my interest. Where would you all > suggest that I start? > > Thanks, > -Tyler > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Introduction
Hello Chris, OpenOffice is mainly created in C++, but also uses some Python, Javascript and Java for it's scripting layer. It even has it's own implementation of Basic. You are welcome to contribute and improve on OpenOffice by joining the development team and reviewing the bugs that have been approved by the QA team. On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:27 AM, Chris wrote: > Howdy, > > My name is Christopher Layton, I'm a developer from Portland, Oregon with > around a year and half experience. I specialize in Java, but have dabbled > in making things with everything from python - assembly. > > Looking forward to working with everyone! > > Hope all is well, > > Christopher Layton > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Re: Dictionary en_GB - 2014-01-01 - Test version
A few months back I help marco deal with this 'obfuscation', unfortuantely most of these data is actually garbage. Doing a deofuscation output a lot of nonsensical characters that seemed to be passed alone inflating the file unnecesarily. If you want to reproduce the process, just need to download the aspell tool and perform deobfuscation (unmunch) on the old aff file. That said, there is a bit of old information and death contacts so it was done as much as possible to clear this situation to move forward and work with the previous mantainers. On 1/10/14, Stuart Swales wrote: > +1. > > en_GB seems to work as expected. > > Pity we don't appear to have a history of the changes on the > 'obfuscated' dictionary fork in Apache OOo to see what may have been > lost by going back to the Mozilla version. > > On 10/01/2014 00:25, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> On 08/01/2014 Marco A.G.Pinto wrote: >>> This OXT includes all English dictionaries as before, with only the >>> en_GB updated. I was told to place an unpublished version of it and >>> send the link to the DEV ML in order for people to test it for one >>> week and give feedback. >> >> I insisted that Marco announced it here since he's taking over >> maintenance of the English dictionary we bundle with the English version >> of OpenOffice. >> >> Specifically, he updated the en_GB dictionary, so you should notice no >> difference if you use the en_US dictionary, but still please do download >> his >> new extension and test if everything works correctly and report errors. >> >> If you use the en_GB dictionary, he provided a small test file and a >> large test file. The small one can be found at >> >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30674540/test_words_speller_20140108.odt >> >> >> as he wrote. >> >> Direct link to download his "release candidate" version: >> http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/download/17669 >> (I tested it on my system and it works as expected) >> >> Regards, >> Andrea. >> > > -- > Stuart Swales > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Dictionary - en_GB - release it?
I think is safe to publish it. +1 I've test it and seems that is working correctly. Would have been better to provide at testcase since most of the enhancements can be tested. But I don't really see a reason to hold this back. On 1/16/14, Marco A.G.Pinto wrote: > Hello! > > One week has gone by and only one person replied to the testing e-mail, > with a "+1". > > Does this mean I can press the "Publish" button? > > Also, every month I update the dictionary with around 200-300 new unique > words (we are only in half of January and the planned February release > already has near 300 new unique words, which means that this month I > worked harder). > > Should I update Apache's dictionary every month or only at a certain > pace? I update Mozilla's version every month. > > Thanks! > > Kind regards, > >Marco A.G.Pinto > --- > > > -- > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Rotate Image in Writer OpenOffice 4.01
the more straight forward solution is open draw, rotate it, copy it back into writer. On 1/28/14, Riccardo Arzenton wrote: > Hi to all, > > > there's a way for rotate images in writer without using the trick to copy > paste from draw? > > There is an extension that should do the trick... but it's not working with > oo401... > http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/writerrotationtool > > Somebody could fix that or helping me with a different solution > > Thanks! > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Spreadsheets
You need to set up OpenOffice as a default application for ODS, XLS, XLSX. OpenOffice does this for you by default when you install it on your computer under this dialog: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Getting_Started/File_associations If you miss that chanced and AOO is already on your box, making the association manually should be done from the windows side. Here is a process on how Windows 8 do file association: http://winsupersite.com/article/windows8/windows-8-tip-change-file-associations-144102 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:46 AM, wrote: > > Good Afternoon > > Please accept my apologies if I have sent this to the wrong department but > I have tried all the information pages to see if they could help > before contacting anyone and I am struggling to find an answer to my > problem, > > I have subscribed to Open Office for a long time and have never had any > problems - up to two weeks ago I had a Dell PC with Vista on and > Open Office worked fine on that > > I had some emails with Spreadsheets attached and they opened fine on > Windows 8 but now if I try that all I get is the file option asking me > to choose a program from the list to save it in - and Open Office is not > one of them > > Why are the Spreadsheets not saving - I put in save to ODF but to no > effect, I just do not know how to correct this > > I would appreciate any help with this > > Many thanks & Kind Regards > > Rose Galloway > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice
I would recomend to join the ODFToolkit project since your project seems to be more on the developer / framework side. https://incubator.apache.org/odftoolkit/ That said you can also look at projects such as oooconv which implement openoffice as a service to provide features as a service through different interfaces (web, command line, etc). http://oooconv.free.fr/index_en.html On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Cuau Maga wrote: > Hello, my name is Cuauhtemoc Magaña, I'm from Mexico(Guadalajara City), i > like to follow dev issues, I'm working in a C# and C++ solution that need > export data to XLS and ODT documents then i like participate and obtain new > implementation for my project for example i need update our components to > not use any Microsoft DLL then i need understand this framework. > > > Regards > > > Cuauhtemoc Magaña > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Idea for a new feature
Which idea is it, the source code is publically browsable here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/ More info: https://openoffice.apache.org/source.html On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Isabel Prochner wrote: > Hello, > > I have an idea for a new feature for a word-processing program. I think it > could be a helpful addition to Writer. > > My programmer friend says it could be easy to create, but we'd need access > to the source code of the program. > > Could you please let me know how to implement this idea, and how we could > become involved with Open Office? > > I look forward to hearing from you. > > Best regards, > Isabel Prochner > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Newbie to openoffice
Follow the archieve lists here: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-qa/ On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Kamini Bonde wrote: > >> Hi Andrea, >> I would like to participate on " Writer" module. Kindly assign me the >> test >> cases so that I can start with. >> > > Hi, testcases are not assigned by me, but by volunteers on the QA list (in > CC). I'm keeping the other messages below for context. Whoever replies: > please CC Kamini. Kamini: consider subscribing the QA list, see > http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html > Regards, > Andrea. > > > -- Forwarded message -- >> From: "Kamini Bonde" >> Date: 11 Feb 2014 11:42 >> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Newbie to openoffice >> To: "Andrea Pescetti" >> Cc: >> >> Hi, >> >>> Thanks for the information. Also regret for the late response from my >>> side. >>> I have installed open office as suggested. >>> Kindly suggest the next task. >>> >>> -kamini. >>> On 8 Feb 2014 02:43, "Andrea Pescetti" wrote: >>> >>> I'm not sure Kamini saw the answer. Forwarding (below). Andrea. >>>> >>>> >>>>--- >>>> Re: Newbie to openoffice >>>> Tue, 4 Feb 2014 11:09:58 +0800 >>>> From: Shenfeng Liu >>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >>>> >>>> Kamini, >>>>Sorry for the late response. It is Chinese New Year Holidays this >>>> week, >>>> so I believe Liu Ping is enjoying her vacation now. >>>>Please go to: http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#winsnap and >>>> install Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_install_.exe_>>> num>.exe >>>> ( >>>> e.g. Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe_1560773.exe ). >>>> >>>> - Shenfeng (Simon) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2014-02-02 Kamini Bonde : >>>> >>>> Hi , >>>> >>>>> I have created account on test link and my id is -ambitious.k >>>>> Also have created account on apache bugzilla . >>>>> I have a couple of queries here. >>>>> 1] Do I need to introduce to qa team. >>>>> 2] What should i install on my windows7 to study the application >>>>> openoffice. Link?? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Kamini. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Liu Ping >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, KAMINI >>>>>> >>>>>> Welcome to join in QA team >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have interest on AOO 4.1 FVT, please send your platform and >>>>>> Testlink ID (if you haven't a Testlink account, you can register >>>>>> one[1]), and I will assign test cases to you. >>>>>> You should also get installation sets from dev snapshot [2] and report >>>>>> issues in Bugzilla [3] >>>>>> >>>>>> [1]http://aootesting.adfinis-sygroup.org/index.php >>>>>> [2]http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#linsnap >>>>>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Kamini Bonde < >>>>>> >>>>> kamini.bend...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> I am kamini from India.I am an engineering graduate and have been >>>>>>> >>>>>> working >>>>> >>>>>> in the field of software Testing since 5 years. I found openoffice to >>>>>>> >>>>>> be >>>>> >>>>>> quite exciting as its an open source application development. Looking >>>>>>> forward to join the QA team so I learn more on testing and an >>>>>>> >>>>>> opportunity >>>>> >>>>>> to work with people around the globe. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Kamini. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With Regards, >>>>> Kamini Bonde >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
