On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Armin Le Grand <armin.le.gr...@me.com>
> wrote:
> >     Hi Rob,
> >
> >
> > On 27.09.2013 14:50, Rob Weir wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> My guess is that the TM are not converted to path. Font diven logos
> could
> >>> be unstable across different renders engine.
> >>> --
> >>
> >>
> >> And we still get many visitors using older browsers, even I.E. 6.   So
> >> I'd recommend using a rasterized version of the logo on the website or
> >> anywhere else we expect random users to visit.  There are ways of
> >> having both SVG and raster images, but if we're not seeing consistent
> >> SVG rendering then it would be safer to just render via Inkscape and
> >> use that.
> >
> >
> > There is a way to have a uncritical SVG version - just convert all text
> to
> > polygons first (and use absolute polygon paths, e.g. in inkscape). That
> > version would be safe since it would not use any font references, only
> > graphics (polygons). Relying on font rendering in SVG does simply not
> work
> > for multiple different systems, versions of these and even evtl.
> different
> > languages and installed fonts.
> >
>
> That might fix this one issue, but what about older browsers like I.E.
> 6?   Will the logo render perfectly everywhere?  We have challenges
> getting even HTML and Javascript to work right everywhere.   I don't
> think we want to risk having our brand image rendering poorly.  We've
> gone 12 years with a raster logo on the website.  It works.
>

​I think you are confusing the render on the browser with using this as a
web design element. SVG have been around for ages, the fact that this user
asked for a vectorized version (to use for whatever reason) and he happen
to notice an issue on the browser, doesnt mean his intentions is to put it
on the page.

That said, I strongly think we should switch to SVG, natively, is much
smaller, and more open.

There are also many fallback libraries like svg.js and modernizr for older
browser. IE6 > 1% of the market. I think we have bigger issues that are not
working on the site than 1% of the visits.



>
> -Rob
>
>
> > Sincerely,
> >     Armin
> >
> >
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >>
> >>> Sent from my Nokia N900
> >>>
> >>> On Fri Sep 27 04:11:33 2013 David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 27 September 2013 09:23, Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> But a note:
> >>>>> The "M" in "TM" is shown cut off and the representation of "TM" is
> >>>>> different in Internet Explorer and Firefox, once serifs, once without
> >>>>> serifs, at an official logo should not be.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Display artifact in Firefox. It's fine in Inkscape or on Wikimedia
> >>>> Commons:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aoo4-main-tm-logo-rgb.svg
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> - d.
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