Re: *-* auto-upgrade from rex to hamm

1998-01-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 18, 1998 at 10:56:31AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 17, 1998 at 02:30:37PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > > i released v0.11 of the script a few hours ago, so you'll probably
> > > want to update your rex version to that.
> >
> > buzz, too, anyone?
> is anyone still running buzz?

Actually, I was a bit surprised that so many people are still running
rexx, or at least that so much work is going into it.

> (it would be good to have the script work for buzz but that might be a bit
> difficult to achieve if nobody's got a buzz machine to develop/test the
> script on)

I had intended to install a fresh bo system and try upgrading some time;
I could try it with buzz too since I have various revisions of it on CD
here. But it won't be for a few weeks due to other time constraints.


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Re: *-* auto-upgrade from rex to hamm

1998-01-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:

> > on a more general note, i think it would be better for my version and
> > your rex version to be merged into one script. 
> 
> At first I thought this wasn't very practical, since the rex update
> is messier than the bo update.  I now think it would be feasible, and
> will give it a try.  I should post something on this soon.

ok, if i get any more bug reports on my version i'll hold off on fixing
them until i get your rex version...or just forward them to you. you can
release v0.12 or whatever.

> > # there must be a Hilliard Conspiracy :-)
>  ^^
> You are correct.  My son Kirk is visiting me, and has his computer
> setup about 5 feet from mine.

:-) 

> I was bit (not very hard - these bugs are very gentle) by both of
> these bugs.  Kirk diagnosed the potential globbing problem, and
> e-mailed you about it.  When I found the other a little later, and
> then sent you a message.

> Looking back in my script files, I see that the $DEFAULT problem had
> been evident every time I tested another version of the script, but I
> had never noticed it. :-)

yeah.  when i first wrote that bit, it printed out the message while still
inside the for loop.  i decided that was broken and shuffled things around,
but neglected to change $i to $DEFAULT.


> It is interesting that you ran v0.8 on a rex system without problems.
> I think that points out that the upgrade behavior of the script
> depends to a great extent on which packages are installed, so there is
> no guarantee that it will run error free on all systems.

the machine i ran it on was somewhere between rex and bo. it was
probably closer to bo than to rex, but i have no idea when it stopped
being upgraded from the-unstable-that-was-to-become-bo.

yes, the script is very dependant on which packages are installed.

I think it will work fine on any bo installation now (it's been tested
on many bo systems, and my sgrep based dependancy/conflicts checker
doesn't show up any more problems)

if you want, i'll give you a copy of my checker if you want to run it
against a rex Packages file. it's simplistic and you can't use the
output directly - it's only useful as a guide to point out things for
you to look into.


> I rebuilt rex from a Cheapbytes 1.2.4 CD.  For test purposes, I
> installed a lot of packages, especially development ones, that I don't
> normally use.  This may be why I have encountered more incompatible
> packages than you did.

probably. the rex machine i upgraded was used specifically for C and
perl development. it also had X installed (but no longer needed - it got
moved off someone's desk and into the server room where it belonged)

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Re: *-* auto-upgrade from rex to hamm

1998-01-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

> > > buzz, too, anyone?
> > is anyone still running buzz?
> 
> Actually, I was a bit surprised that so many people are still running
> rexx, or at least that so much work is going into it.

rex was our first really good release. lots of people are into "if it
works, don't fix it". bo was better, but rex was still fresh enough that
the temptation to upgrade wasn't too great. both rex and bo are getting
a bit stale now, so i expect hamm will be very popular when it's finally
released :-)

> > (it would be good to have the script work for buzz but that might
> > be a bit difficult to achieve if nobody's got a buzz machine to
> > develop/test the script on)
>
> I had intended to install a fresh bo system and try upgrading some
> time; I could try it with buzz too since I have various revisions
> of it on CD here. But it won't be for a few weeks due to other time
> constraints.

ok, when (if) you do that, take over the script and update it for a buzz
upgrade.  Wait and see what Robert H does with the rex version, or
co-ordinate it with him. 

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num lock

1998-01-18 Thread Paul Miller
Is there anyway I can make the num lock on consoles and X default to on?

Thanks


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Bitchx windows

1998-01-18 Thread Mark W. Blunier

When bitchx tries to create a new window under X, it fails
with the message

xterm: Can't execvp /usr/bin/wserv

Is there a package that provides swerv, or should it
have been included with bitchx?

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Re: num lock

1998-01-18 Thread Adam Klein
On Sat, Jan 17, 1998 at 07:22:00PM -0500, Paul Miller wrote:
> Is there anyway I can make the num lock on consoles and X default to on?

I don't know about X, but on the console, add:

setleds -D +num

to your .bash_profile or .login or whatever.

Adam Klein


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Re: Digests/Newsfeed?

1998-01-18 Thread Norbert Veber
On Sat, Jan 17, 1998 at 01:11:23PM -0800, George Bonser wrote:
> 
> FWIW, I am now sending the debian.announce and debian.changes lists to at
> least one site in .au in Usenet format using uucp over tcp/ip.
> 
> It looks like the Debian lists in newsgroup format are starting to spread.
> 
> If anyone is uucp capable and would like the lists as newsgroups in
> compressed batches, let me know.  Using gzip compression really reduces
> the byte-count. The debian lists that I am carrying are:

I've noticed that (with my isp at least) all the messages from the list get
placed into the newsgroup, but when I post to the newsgroup
(linux.debian.dev) the message never makes it to the list.  Is that the way
it was meant to be, or is it just something screwed up with my isp?


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Re: netscape4

1998-01-18 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi Dennis Drapeau; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am wondering which version of netscape the install wrapper for hamm
> uses.   I have downloaded  communicator 4.04
> (communicator-v404-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0.tar.gz) and the install
> script exits with a version compatability.
> 
> thanks
> 
> dennis drapeau
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have installed the communicator 4.04 (same as your tarball) using the same
installer script without problems...
Maybe it is a permission problems (I recall I had a problem until I had it
chown-ed to root.root - communicator, that is), and I *think* that I got the
simmilar error msg. 
But it is possible...

HTH
dn


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PnP modem

1998-01-18 Thread Gerald Wann
Hi all-

I am installing Linux on a PnP BIOS machine that currently has
a modem jumpered for PnP installation. Does Debian Linux
require any special modules to use such a setup? Is it even
possible?

(the PnP BIOS installs the modem as COM2, which is left
disabled in the CMOS)

Thanks in advance -
Jerry



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/etc/alternatives problems?

1998-01-18 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi, all --

I have tried the elvis package from hamm, didn't like it that much and settled
on vim as my editor...Now, someplace between the install-deinstall-install of
these two packages my /etc/alternatives/vi, vi.1.gz, ex, ex.1.gz, input,
input.1.gz, editor, editor.1.gz, view and view.1.gz links were all pointing to
the /usr/bin/elvisnox and /usr/man/man1/elvis.1.gz. Sooo, when I started vi
from the xterm or rxvt cmd line, I got a useless window showing basic ae
editor (useless because I can't get any keys to work with ae under X). I have
manually relinked the vi, editor and ex lines to /usr/bin/vim and
/usr/man/man1/vim.1.gz, but am not sure what to do with the input and view
links.
Is this a feature, bug or am I doing something wrong?

TIA
dn


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Re: cdrom problem

1998-01-18 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Norris) writes:

[...]

> So when I need to switch
> my OS, I've been halting the system ("shutdown -h now"), then pressing
> reset after I saw a confirmation message for the halt.

More because I only use Linux, I've changed my init setup so that this
is what Ctrl-Alt-Del does.  Edit /etc/inittab and change the line htat
says "ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -r now" so that it has -h
instead of -r, then type "init q" to reload it into init.  Now I don't
have to worry about switching off quickly just after my PC reboots,
but only once I get "System halted".

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Re: gcc 2.8.0 and friends

1998-01-18 Thread Carey Evans
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> I've not yet seen a date for the code freeze, so there is a good change gcc
> 2.8.0 will make it in.

How compatible is 2.8.0 with 2.7.2.3?  If there are problems and 2.8.0
is introduced too late, we could end up with hamm not being able to
compile itself.

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Re: divide the list in beginners and advanced

1998-01-18 Thread Britton

I also agree think we should stick with a single list.  Though I still ask
more questions than I am able to completely answer, I do often at least
attempt an answer and sometimes can give fairly helpful responses.  In
addition to the we-were-all-newbies-once argument I would like to point
out that it can take a quite a bit of work to really learn your way around
Debian/linux in general.  It is expected (or was until the inception of
Debian and similar systems) that the average member of the community can
compile code on their own, spot problems (especially common ones), deal
with the fact that few companies provide drivers for linux, etc. 
Certainly more than must be done under Win95.  Traditionally, much of this
information has been handed along personally in academic or occupational
environments, but many modern user don't have these avenues open to them.

On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, smorrill wrote:

> Here, Here!!  I for one would ask that we not divide the list  I
> picked Debian as my first try with Linux after looking at all the
> distributions.  I probably jumped in over my head (as you can tell from
> the questions I post...  :-) everything I read said Debian was not the
> best choice for a newbie to start with.  I have always been impressed
> with the amount of support for Debian, and for that reason, this is the
> path I took.
> 
> I would hope someday to be in the position to "pass it on" and help
> others out.
> 
> Sometimes when I'm going over the list I find answers to other questions
> that I had, somebody else just happened to ask them before I did!  I
> always manage to learn something here, even reading the more advanced
> stuff...  If I ever get my act together, maybe someday I'll even try to
> take on the maintenance of a Debian package...
> 
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Re: Remote X-term

1998-01-18 Thread Carey Evans
Tim Thomson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Found it: type "xhost remote.addr" on the local machine before telneting
> to it.

This means *any* user on that machine can use your machine to do
things like snooping on passwords you type or sending "M-! rm -rf ."
to your Emacs.

Something I used to use at University was like:

xauth nextract - $HOSTDISPLAY | rsh -l misc2374 cantua \
"xauth remove $HOSTDISPLAY; xauth nmerge -" &

It was actually a bit more complicated because of disagreeing NIS and
DNS setups on the X terminals and cantua.  The "xauth remove" bit
might be unnecessary on new versions of X too.

> I can't try it cause I'm behind a IP-MASK'ed firewall. Got to work out how
> to forward X-win stuff. What port is it on?

It's on port 6000.  (Try "DISPLAY=localhost:0 xeyes & sleep 1; netstat -t").

The "redir" program could work as well, to forward port 6000 on the
firewall to port 6000 on the real machine.

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Re: Digests/Newsfeed?

1998-01-18 Thread Tim Thomson
On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, George Bonser wrote:

> It looks like the Debian lists in newsgroup format are starting to spread.

We actually have linux.debian.user on our local news server, but it is
very incomplete - ie. 6 messages in the last month!

> If anyone is uucp capable and would like the lists as newsgroups in
> compressed batches, let me know.  Using gzip compression really reduces
> the byte-count. The debian lists that I am carrying are:

I don't have uucp installed at the moment. I want to give it a try though!
I'm on a dial-up ppp connection that is behind a firewall - I can't use
standard nntp to access remote news servers. With uucp I can? Would I need
a permanent connection?

I really want to get this to work, as I'm only on a free email account,
this list seems to them down and I don't want to do that!
I've unsubscribed (or soon will).

Thanks for any help,

-Tim.

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problem with nis and shadow

1998-01-18 Thread Ronn Pimentel

I'm having trouble with nis and shadow files on my bo system.  The system
works fine when I don't have shadow installed on the server, but breaks
when I enable shadow.  I enable shadow on the server, modify the Makefile
to generate a shadow map and then it compiles it but when I do a ypcat,
the shadow map doesn't show up.

Am i missing something?

music# ypcat -x
Use "passwd" for "passwd.byname"
Use "group" for "group.byname"
Use "networks" for "networks.byaddr"
Use "hosts" for "hosts.byname"
Use "protocols" for "protocols.bynumber"
Use "services" for "services.byname"
Use "aliases" for "mail.aliases"
Use "ethers" for "ethers.byname"
music# ls
group.bygid   netgroup.byhost  passwd.bynamerpc.bynumber
group.byname  netgroup.byuser  passwd.byuid
services.byname
hosts.byaddr  netid.byname  protocols.bynameshadow.byname
hosts.byname  networks.byaddr  protocols.bynumber  ypservers
netgroup networks.byname rpc.byname
music#


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Apfilter install hangs up computer

1998-01-18 Thread IBMackey
On two occasions, I've tried to install the debian package for apfilter.
When picking an option for "further descriptions of the printers", the
script has terminated with a "Out of memory, zless."

Is there a way around this ?



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Re: PnP modem

1998-01-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jan 17, 1998 at 09:40:12PM -0500, Gerald Wann wrote:
> I am installing Linux on a PnP BIOS machine that currently has
> a modem jumpered for PnP installation. Does Debian Linux
> require any special modules to use such a setup? Is it even
> possible?
> 
> (the PnP BIOS installs the modem as COM2, which is left
> disabled in the CMOS)

That should work fine. Use the isapnptools package to
set up the modem.


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Re: Using Debian with lots of users

1998-01-18 Thread Tim Thomson
On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, George Bonser wrote:

> Wait ... Fetchmail is for pulling mail FROM individual pop3 email boxes
> from a remote host to the local host.  If he is using that, he is having
> to keep track of 1000 different user passwords at the remote ISP. 

I'm not sure what he's using at the moment, but I don't think it's Debian.
Fetchmail has a ETRN option, which tells the remote host to send all
outstanding mail addressed to the local host. I'm not sure if he's using
this or a uucp type one (probably uucp actually).

> Do yourself a favor and install poppassd on your system and let your users
> set their own password if they use Eudora.  It save you a lot of admin
> time.

I was thinking along those lines, although they've already installed
Pegasus (works with the Novell server they have.

> Better find out more about exactly what he is doing before trying to tell
> him how to do it :)

Yeah! I just wanted an idea of what was involved. I've got my own home
system working, but that only has three users!

> 400 Meg / 1000 people is what ... 400K for each person.

Hmm. Didn't really think of this :-)
Might be able to use space on the Novell server if needed.

Thanks heaps,

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Re: netscape4

1998-01-18 Thread John Boggon


>Hi,
>
>I am wondering which version of netscape the install wrapper for hamm
>uses.   I have downloaded  communicator 4.04
>(communicator-v404-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0.tar.gz) and the install
>script exits with a version compatability.
>


I had the same problem. I had to change the name of the netscape tarball
slightly to get it to work. ( I think it was the word 'unknown' but I 'm not
sure).. Anyway, I got  the wrapper program to install but I still haven't
ironed out the java problem.

Still get zombie netstat processes too every now and then when I try to run
netscape.

John



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Re: Apfilter install hangs up computer

1998-01-18 Thread bhmit1
On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, IBMackey wrote:

> On two occasions, I've tried to install the debian package for apfilter.
> When picking an option for "further descriptions of the printers", the
> script has terminated with a "Out of memory, zless."
> 
> Is there a way around this ?

Say no when it prompts you, or hit cont-c real quick.  I didn't wait long
enough for my system to run out of memory (over an hour) and ended up
cycling the power after being hit by this (system was completely
unresponsive).  I would have filed a bug report, but I can't track down
the exact cause of the problem, the result being an infinite loop or
recursive calling of zless (I had several hundred before canceling it
one time).  Also, note that apsfilter is no longer being maintained in
hamm, so you may want to consider magicfilter (it's on my own todo list).

Note, I think the offending section in the postinst is like:
echo $n "Press RETURN to continue ...$c"
read tmp
$PAGER /usr/doc/apsfilter/deskjets 

HTH,
Brandon

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Re: Probably a simple question

1998-01-18 Thread Alex Yukhimets
> I have an InfoMagic developers kit and this has Metro-X server in it. What's 
> the low down on installing it on my system? Can this be done or was it only 
> included as part of the Red Hat release? The Metro-X server supports the 
> QVision 1024. I'm not sure 
if mine is a 1024 or a 2000 off the top of my head.
> 
> >From what I've read AcceleratedX is the only way I can go if it's a QVision 
> >2000 . Is this correct?
> 
> Any assistance and guidence is appreciated.

Hi.

Metro-X claims to support Compaq QVision 2000. You may go ahead and
install it. Accelerated-X definitely supports it.
I would suggest to install xbase, xfntbase, and xfnt75 packages first.

Also, please use debian-user list for this kind of questions.

Thanks.

Alex Y.

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Re: Bitchx windows

1998-01-18 Thread tjferrell
On 17 Jan, Mark W Blunier wrote:
> 
> When bitchx tries to create a new window under X, it fails
> with the message
> 
> xterm: Can't execvp /usr/bin/wserv
> 
> Is there a package that provides swerv, or should it
> have been included with bitchx?
> 

if wserv is not included in the deb package then you can get it from
one of the bitchx ftp sites - it is part of the extras including the
tcl object files etc.

hth
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Lilo revisited

1998-01-18 Thread Sten Anderson
I have recently recieved a question about Lilo in a private email
(perhaps caused by my postings to this list). I belive the answer may 
be of value to others, so I will repost it here. This will also give
experts a chance to flame me for spreading misinformation if I have
gotten everything wrong :)

Question:

> A while back I  was having trouble with lilo not recognizing my
> drive properly.  I overcame this by using the "linear" option in the
> lilo.conf.  would this do the same thing to overcome the need for
> requiring the kernel to reside in the first 1024 cylinders?

Answer:

I believe the answer is no. Lilo depends on the BIOS to load the
kernel (and other files in /boot). If the BIOS cannot acces the
location on the drive there is nothing Lilo can do about it, and no
linear option can change that.  

The linear option is used for a slightly different purpose. Lilo needs 
to know the exact physical location of the files in a format
understandable by the BIOS, i.e. as sector/head/cylinder. It obtains
this information by recording the linear adress of the files and then
quering the kernel for the disk geometry parameters in order to  
translate the linear location into the sector/head/cylinder
format. 

This may fail occasionally on large disks because the disk
parameters obtained from the kernel query may be wrong. The kernel
retrives these parameters directly from the device. However, the BIOS
may use some implicit translation of sector/head/cylinder adresses in
order to overcome the large disk problem. This implicit translation is 
invisible to the kernel, as the kernel never queries the BIOS. Thus
the disk geometry reported by the kernel is incompatible with the disk 
geometry reported (and used) by the BIOS.

A solution to this problem is to use the linear option. This causes
Lilo not to query the kernel for the disk parameters. Instead Lilo
records the linear physical location of the files, and performs the
translation at boot-time by quering the BIOS for the disk parameters
during boot. 

The situation is therefore this:

- Some BIOSes cannot acces the upper part of a large disk if the disk
reports geometry parameters with more than 1024 sectors. In this case
the solution is to partition the disk carefully and place boot files
on a partition below the 1024 sectors.

- Some BIOSes can handle disks that report a disk geometry above 1024
sectors. These BIOSes uses translation to fool everyone into thinking
the disk has less than 1024 sectors. In this case the boot files can
be placed anywhere on the disk, but it is necessary to use the linear
option to make Lilo aware of this translation. 

- Some newer large disks perform this implicit translation themselves, 
and thus reports a geometry to the BIOS and the kernel with less than
1024 sectors. In this case the BIOS can access the entire disk and 
Lilo operates perfectly with or without the linear option. Drives with 
this capability are usually referred to as LBA drives (logical block
addressing).

Conclusion: Always use the linear option. If it works everything is
fine. If it doesn't work you must resort to the partitioning trick.  
Note however, that the linear option should not be used on floppies
or together with the compact option (which is only useful on
floppies). 

- Sten Anderson


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Re: configuring return address on outgoing mail

1998-01-18 Thread Wojtek Zabolotny
I don't know how to do it in smail, but I had the same problem, and fixed
it by configuring pine:
user-domain = ipe.pw.edu.pl
The smail configuration is unchanged.
It is not the best solution, because it requires, that my username on my
computer has to be the same as the name of my mailbox.
Anyway it works! (This letter is just sent from this computer -
investigate the headers...)

Wojtek Zabolotny
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On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Havoc Pennington wrote:

> 
> Hi,
>  
>   I'm using smail with a dynamic dial-up IP number. It works fine (I
> can send mail), but it thinks I can receive mail, so the return
> address is garbage. This means that if mail bounces I never know the
> difference, which is bad.
>   How can I configure smail to put in a valid return address, i.e., my
> real email address rather than the local machine address? 
> 
> Thanks,
>  Havoc Pennington
> 
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Moving from ethernet to a modem

1998-01-18 Thread G. Kapetanios

Hi all,

I have friend whom I have persuaded to use Debian instead of Win95 :-)
He wants to \have an internet connection   from his home. As his situation
is of interest to me since my studying days will soon be over and I will
ghave to move from ethernet to modem as well I have the following
question. Will setting up PPP be straightforward or tricky for a novice
like him (I will be helping but I am a novice in PPP as well ) ? What
is the best setup in temrs of the internet providers i.e. what is
available
(e.g.
1) simple email, 2)just telneting to an internet provider's host machine
3) a whole IP address (like I have now) 4) some other setup ). More
specifically is it
possible (and not extremely expensive ) to be connected all the time and
have his own ip address ? I guess that all the questions apart from the
first one will be more relevant to UK users.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.  
  
George 

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problems with dselect from the DEBIAN include the German magazine CHIP

1998-01-18 Thread Matthias Knauff
Hello,

if I want to use dselect from the DEBIAN-LINUX include the German magazine
CHIP I have a serious problem. By choosing the method on CD-ROM (Plextor
SCSI 12/20) I get always the errormessage " broken pipe in ...". When I
ignore this and install the Xserver_SVGA for example I never get a komlete
installation. I have heard from the German distributor JFL that this is a
known problem but I don´t  found a solution anywhere.

Greetings form Matthias Knauff


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curses.h: No such file or directory

1998-01-18 Thread Pedro Quaresma de Almeida
Hi

I whant to use LifeLines, a genealogy program, but...


It uses libcurses.so.1 (executable version) and curses.h (source
version)

I have, in my system:
ncurses-base1.9.9g-7
ncurses-bin 1.9.9g-7
ncurses-term1.9.9g-7
ncurses3.0  1.9.9e-1
ncurses3.4  1.9.9g-7

When I try to use the executable version, the following message appears

lines302: can't load library 'libcurses.so.1'

When I try to compile the source version, the following message
appears

../hdrs/screen.h:11: curses.h: No such file or directory

Can you help me?

Thank uou

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===

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Faculdade de Ci\^encias e Tecnologia
Universidade de Coimbra
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Re: curses.h: No such file or directory

1998-01-18 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Pedro Quaresma de Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi
>
>I whant to use LifeLines, a genealogy program, but...
>
>
>It uses libcurses.so.1 (executable version) and curses.h (source
>version)
>
>I have, in my system:
>ncurses-base1.9.9g-7
>ncurses-bin 1.9.9g-7
>ncurses-term1.9.9g-7
>ncurses3.0  1.9.9e-1
>ncurses3.4  1.9.9g-7
>
>When I try to use the executable version, the following message appears
>
>lines302: can't load library 'libcurses.so.1'

Probably linked with an old version of ncurses.

>When I try to compile the source version, the following message
>appears
>
>../hdrs/screen.h:11: curses.h: No such file or directory

You don't have ncurses-dev (the development package) installed.

Mike.
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How do I find out what version of ebian is on a machine?

1998-01-18 Thread Stan Brown
All ths talk of libc5 to libc6 upgrades gotme thnking about upgarding.
Since it matters at this point in time for upgradeing, how do I
determine what version of Debian is on a given machine?

Thanks.

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Re: problem with xman

1998-01-18 Thread tinos
> To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc:debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:   Re: problem with xman
> Reply-to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From:  Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:  17 Jan 1998 17:32:53 -0500

>I just installed Debian 1.3.1 and the system is running fine. But I 
>still have one problem: I can't find xman - neither in dselect nor on 
>the system. How can I install it ? Which package do I have to install 
>for using it ?
> 
> xcontrib

Thanks for your answer. But there is still one problem. After I 
finally installed xcontrib xman is also running fine. But xman "has 
not a manual entry" for e.g. "scanf". The thing is that "man scanf" 
shows the manual page for scanf - how do I configure xman, so that 
they use the same database ?
> 
> 


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Unidentified subject!

1998-01-18 Thread tinos
hi

I want to mount vfat partititions when Linux boots. I changed the 
/etc/fstab file and by using the command "mount -a" the partititions 
are correctly mounted. 
But when Linux boots, it says something like "unknown filessystem..." 
and the partititions are not mounted. However after "mount -a" they 
are mounted.
What do I have to change so that the vfat partititions are mounted 
when Linux boots ?


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Linux

1998-01-18 Thread Richard Thompson
How similar, in terms of user interface / command structure is Debian Linux
to SCO Unix or any of the other major commercial Unix versions?

Richard


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Re: Unidentified subject!

1998-01-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 18, 1998 at 02:15:44PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I want to mount vfat partititions when Linux boots. I changed the 
> /etc/fstab file and by using the command "mount -a" the partititions 
> are correctly mounted. 
> But when Linux boots, it says something like "unknown filessystem..." 
> and the partititions are not mounted. However after "mount -a" they 
> are mounted.
> What do I have to change so that the vfat partititions are mounted 
> when Linux boots ?

When you execute "mount -a" from the command line the vfat module
is automatically loaded by kerneld, a daemon which automatically
loads drivers and other modules when they are needed. However,
kerneld does not automatically load drivers needed during system
startup by default, and vfat isn't loaded, so you get "unknown filesystem."

You need to edit /etc/modules. You can either
(a) add vfat to the list, so that it is available during boot, or
(b) add auto to the list, so that kerneld IS available during boot
to load any other needed modules.

I prefer (a). It's up to you though.


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Re: Remote X-term

1998-01-18 Thread Lee Bradshaw
Carey Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tim Thomson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Found it: type "xhost remote.addr" on the local machine before telneting
> > to it.
> 
> This means *any* user on that machine can use your machine to do
> things like snooping on passwords you type or sending "M-! rm -rf ."
> to your Emacs.
> 
> Something I used to use at University was like:
> 
> xauth nextract - $HOSTDISPLAY | rsh -l misc2374 cantua \
> "xauth remove $HOSTDISPLAY; xauth nmerge -" &
> 
> It was actually a bit more complicated because of disagreeing NIS and
> DNS setups on the X terminals and cantua.  The "xauth remove" bit
> might be unnecessary on new versions of X too.
> 
> > I can't try it cause I'm behind a IP-MASK'ed firewall. Got to work out how
> > to forward X-win stuff. What port is it on?
> 
> It's on port 6000.  (Try "DISPLAY=localhost:0 xeyes & sleep 1; netstat -t").
> 
> The "redir" program could work as well, to forward port 6000 on the
> firewall to port 6000 on the real machine.

Try something like:

   xterm -e ssh -l username remotehostname

X has problems with masquerading because the remote end initiates
the port connection.  If you use redir to redirect the port, you can
only support X on one machine inside the firewall.  With ssh, ssh
initiates the encrypted connection and all responses come back over this
connection. ssh pulls out the X info and displays it locally.  No port
problems.  Also no authorization problems, because you already have
permission to use the local display with your own programs.

Thanks everyone who recommended ssh in the past.

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SEUL packaging, etc.

1998-01-18 Thread Ian Watkins
FE> > I would like to make it almost trivial for a user to install a
FE> > package, i.e. click in a hypertext help/wizard window and it
FE> > will install what is required for functionality set "X".

I couldn't agree with you more Fred. I thoroughly enjoy Linux, but I 
found it hard to get into. I am slightly above an average user having 
spent 10 years on mainframes, some assembler, some C++ and the last 5 
years supporting Windows installations.

There does seem to be a tendency within the Unix community that if it 
isn't a bit difficult to do or use then we must have done something 
wrong 

I would support in anyway that I am capable in providing some sort of 
easy front end to Linux to widen it's appeal. I am particularly 
interested in seeing something available for charities to use as a 
stable, cheap and therefore cost-effective way of providing file and 
printer services, mail and Internet access to support their work. 
However at the present, with it's rather dense interface I cannot see 
that being viable. I realise the value of the infinite configurability 
that the infinite number of configuration files gives you, but it is 
almost impossible (as well as daunting) for an inexperienced user to 
work out what to tweak and how.

I would also consider that the help system needs to be looked at quite 
seriously. I believe that there are packages out there that make them 
more user friendly, but there must be a better way to provide help than 
man pages and the less command?

I think that Linux has a great deal to offer to those who want a good 
solid OS with a wide range of applications. AFAIK it doesn't have 
anything like Exchange or Notes supported on it, but I suspect that the 
number of organisations needing that sort of application within my area 
of interest are rather limited.

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Clean hamm installat

1998-01-18 Thread Ian Watkins
HM> Did you ever use --force-blah with dpkg? Was it ever possible to hos
HM> your system without using --force-blah?

What is --force-blah?

HM> I upgraded my system before Scott's HOWTO was written; at that stage
HM> it was fairly simple and all the dependencies seemed to prevent
HM> me from doing anything wrong. IIRC, it was basically a case of
HM> installing new ld.so, removing the libc5 -dev libraries, installing
HM> libc6, installing the hamm non-g libraries, then installing the hamm
HM> libraries, then anything else, like bash. For a while I only upgrade
HM> the libraries (just to support running new libc6 stuff from hamm),
HM> not bothering with existing packages. Never any sign of trouble.

I've done the upgrade (with the help of the mini-howto). What do you 
mean by hamm non-g and hamm libraries?

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xlib6 3.3.1-2 + emacs 19.34-11 problem (?)

1998-01-18 Thread Stefan Baums
Hi all,

my Debian system is basically bo. Some time ago I upgraded to libc6 2.0.6-2 and
libc5 5.4.38-0.1 and didn't experience any problems with my old libc5 programs.
But then I upgraded xlib6 to 3.3.1-2 and installed xlib6g 3.3.1-2 in order to
use the new libc6 xfmail 1.2, and things took a bad turn: When I try to start
emacs now I get a segmentation fault (this happens under X _and_ tty), and gv
doesn't start either but produces the error message "gv: No message text for
"missing-resources"". Is this really the fault of my new xlib6? If so, what can
 I do about it? You know, I _need_ my emacs :-)

Greetings,
Stefan


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Re: xlib6 3.3.1-2 + emacs 19.34-11 problem (?)

1998-01-18 Thread James Troup
Stefan Baums <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> When I try to start emacs now I get a segmentation fault (this
> happens under X _and_ tty), and gv doesn't start either but produces
> the error message "gv: No message text for "missing-resources"". Is
> this really the fault of my new xlib6? If so, what can I do about
> it? You know, I _need_ my emacs :-)

Upgrade your emacs and gv; earlier versions had hardcoded paths to the
X libraries and so can't find the libc5 ones in /usr/lib/libc5-compat.

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isapnptools config

1998-01-18 Thread Gerald Wann
Hi -

Might anyone have some advice on how to go about setting up
the isapnp.config file? I have run pnpdump and it successfully
found my (2) PnP cards (modem & sound). However, there are
a number of configuration options for each, and i would like
advice on how to decide which one to uncomment in order to
activate the devices properly. (trial & error ? :-)

TIA

Jerry



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SO4, dpkg

1998-01-18 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
Hi!
I just downloaded the StarOffice4 tarball from ftp.stardivision.de,
and installed it fine. However, it generates segmentation faults and
crashes with what appears to be complete irregularity. I installed it
onto /usr/local/Office40 as root. (It seemed to want to install onto the
home directory of what ever user I was logged in as, but I thought that
was abit ridiculous since it would mean repeated use of 100 or so MB).
Also, much of the time when I install new packages with dpkg, at the
end of the install and config it says
Unknown function multi
-f: Aborting
Unknown function multi
-f: Aborting
and then stalls.

Any ideas on either problem?
Thanks,
Timothy



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Netscape 4.04.... [Read this Please!]

1998-01-18 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
I have been following various messages about Netscape 4.04, and it
seems to me that lots of people's NSN4 don't do Java properly, AND,
(Please correct me if i'm wrong), I haven't seen any successfull
reponses to mine or anyone else's messages about fixing this problem.
So! Will anyone who's NSN4 will do Java applets properly please
respond to this, then maybe we can figure out what those of us whose
Java does not work have missed.

Thanks,
Timothy


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Re: isapnptools config

1998-01-18 Thread Ben Pfaff
   Might anyone have some advice on how to go about setting up
   the isapnp.config file? I have run pnpdump and it successfully
   found my (2) PnP cards (modem & sound). However, there are
   a number of configuration options for each, and i would like
   advice on how to decide which one to uncomment in order to
   activate the devices properly. (trial & error ? :-)

Figure out which interrupts and io ports are used before the modem &
sound card are configured, then select the ones that are left over.
You can see the interrupts that are used by looking at
/proc/interrupts and /proc/ioports.


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Re: Netscape 4.04.... [Read this Please!]

1998-01-18 Thread Ben Pfaff
   I have been following various messages about Netscape 4.04, and it
   seems to me that lots of people's NSN4 don't do Java properly, AND,
   (Please correct me if i'm wrong), I haven't seen any successfull
   reponses to mine or anyone else's messages about fixing this problem.
   So! Will anyone who's NSN4 will do Java applets properly please
   respond to this, then maybe we can figure out what those of us whose
   Java does not work have missed.

Mine works fine.  I'm running full hamm, how about you?


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Sharing X windows?

1998-01-18 Thread Lee Bradshaw
Hi,

Does anyone know of a program to share X windows from one machine to
another?  Just viewing the the window on another machine would be
useful, although selectable sharing of the keyboard and mouse would be
even better.

HP has a program called SharedX for it's workstations.  There seems to
be a program called DoubleVision available for HP-UX, sunos, IBM AIX,...
but not linux.  Is there a workalike for linux?

Thanks,

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Re: xlib6 3.3.1-2 + emacs 19.34-11 problem (?)

1998-01-18 Thread Stefan Baums

On 18-Jan-98 James Troup wrote:
> Stefan Baums <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> When I try to start emacs now I get a segmentation fault (this
>> happens under X _and_ tty), and gv doesn't start either but produces
>> the error message "gv: No message text for "missing-resources"".
> 
> Upgrade your emacs and gv; earlier versions had hardcoded paths to the
> X libraries and so can't find the libc5 ones in /usr/lib/libc5-compat.

That did it. Thanks, James.


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Re: off-topic: Good bug-tracking package?

1998-01-18 Thread Toens Bueker
On Sun, Jan 11, 1998 at 06:51:24PM -0800,  Obi wrote:

> does anyone know of a good bug-tracking software?

Have you had a look at 'jitterbug'? Its from Andrew
Tridgell - the father of samba ...

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Re: xlib6 3.3.1-2 + emacs 19.34-11 problem (?)

1998-01-18 Thread Stefan Baums
Hi again,

I did what James recommended for gv and it worked (thanks). 


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Re: Netscape 4.04.... [Read this Please!]

1998-01-18 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Þann 18-Jan-98 skrifar Ben Pfaff:
>I have been following various messages about Netscape 4.04, and it
>seems to me that lots of people's NSN4 don't do Java properly, AND,
>(Please correct me if i'm wrong), I haven't seen any successfull
>reponses to mine or anyone else's messages about fixing this problem.
>So! Will anyone who's NSN4 will do Java applets properly please
>respond to this, then maybe we can figure out what those of us whose
>Java does not work have missed.
> 
> Mine works fine.  I'm running full hamm, how about you?
> 
  Works fine here too, full hamm.

  For those who are having trouble, you need to set the environment variable
MOZILLA_HOME to the path where netscape is located.  On my machine, it is
located in...

  MOZILLA_HOME=/usr/lib/netscape


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qddb

1998-01-18 Thread Tom Ed White
I was wondering if there were any plans to set up qddb under Debian. A 
qddb package would also require packages (not yet available) for itcl. 

I tried fooling some with setting these up, but they are somewhat over my 
head.

One hole in Linux distributions, needed by clueless desktop users, is an 
easy to use database. PostgresSQL is fine for running a hospital, but is 
not so apropriate for many of us.

Thanks,
Tom Ed White


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Re: rvplayer 5.0 and Debian

1998-01-18 Thread lantz moore

Shaleh> I do not have speakers yet.  The animation window is black, no
Shaleh> motion.  I did use the wrapper.

i had a similar problem; the solution for me was to add myself to the
"audio" group so that i could access /dev/{audio,dsp}.

-l


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Re: Netscape 4.04.... [Read this Please!]

1998-01-18 Thread Myron Alexander

Mine works fine. I use hamm.

.sig is not available right now. Leave you name, number and something
inspirational after the dotted line and it will get back to you as soon as
possible. 
   . 


On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Timothy M. Hospedales wrote:

> I have been following various messages about Netscape 4.04, and it
> seems to me that lots of people's NSN4 don't do Java properly, AND,
> (Please correct me if i'm wrong), I haven't seen any successfull
> reponses to mine or anyone else's messages about fixing this problem.
> So! Will anyone who's NSN4 will do Java applets properly please
> respond to this, then maybe we can figure out what those of us whose
> Java does not work have missed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Timothy
> 
> 
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problems with dselect from the DEBIAN include the German magazine CHIP

1998-01-18 Thread Matthias Knauff


Hello,

if I want to use dselect from the DEBIAN-LINUX include the German magazine
CHIP I have a serious problem. By choosing the method on CD-ROM (Plextor
SCSI 12/20) I get always the errormessage " broken pipe in ...". When I
ignore this and install the Xserver_SVGA for example I never get a komlete
installation. I have heard from the German distributor JFL that this is a
known problem but I don´t  found a solution anywhere.

Greetings form Matthias Knauff


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Re: subscribe

1998-01-18 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Rick Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > You can get the old MBR back with "fdisk /MBR" (the fdisk from DOS)
> > 
> > >   Partition table (fdisk):
> > >   
> > >
> > >   Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 1023 cylinders
> > >   Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes
> > >
> > >  Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
> > >   /dev/hda1   *11  204   411232+   6  DOS 16-bit>=32M
> > >   /dev/hda2  205  205 1022  16490885  Extended
> > >   /dev/hda5   *  205  205  24582624+  83  Linux native
> > 
> > ^
> > |
> > 
> > Only one partition should be active. With my above suggestion, it
> > should be hda2
> 
> Also.  Maybe this is a typo or something, but your /dev/hda2 and
> /dev/hda5 seem to be ocupying the same area of the disk.  Not to

That's absolutely okay.  hda5 is a locical partition defined within
the extended partion hda2.  This is because there are only 4 slots in
the partition table.  Therefor one of these partition can be defined
as extended with an own partition table and potentially 59 partition
within (hda5...hda63) if there are no other limitation as defined by
MS.

Torsten

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Database driver module problems

1998-01-18 Thread Dave Neuer
I am having problems getting the DBI drivers for mSQL working on my
Debian Linux 1.3.1 system.  I am using mSQL 2.0.3, DBI 0.91, and
Msql-modules-1.1814.

I have installed mSQL and the DBI module successfully (I think). Now I
am trying to install the Msql driver module.  I call "perl Makefile.PL"
and "make" successfully, but "make test" fails.  Below is the output of
make test with TEST_VERBOSE turned on:

make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/Msql-modules-1.1814/DBD-mSQL'
make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/Msql-modules-1.1814/MsqlPerl'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/Msql-modules-1.1814/MsqlPerl'
PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /bin/perl -I./blib/arch -I./blib/lib
-I/usr/lib/perl5/i386-lin
ux/5.00307 -I/usr/lib/perl5 -e 'use Test::Harness qw(&runtests
$verbose);
$verbose=1; runtests @ARGV;' t/*.t
t/00baseBare word found where operator expected at
/usr/local/lib/site_perl/DBI.pm line 477, near "$fh neat_list"
 (Missing operator before neat_list?)

... snip  

BTW; the line being referred to in the warning about DBI.pm (line 477)
is:
"print $fh neat_list($ref,$maxlen,$fsep);"
As neat_list is a subroutine call, I assume this isn't a problem; at any
rate, the Perl debugger says that DBI.pm's syntax is fine.  All of the
tests print this warning, so I have removed it from their output below.

The second test generates the following output:
t/10dsnlist.
Cannot connect: Unknown database "test"
 Either your server is not up and running or you have no
 permissions for acessing the DSN DBI:mSQL:test.
 This test requires a running server and write permissions.
 Please make sure your server is running and you have
 permissions, then retry.
1..2
not ok 1
dubious
 Test returned status 10 (wstat 2560)

These tests all return the same error as above:
t/20createdrop, t/30insertfetch, t/40bindparam, t/40listfields,
t/40nulls, t/40numrows
t/50chopblanks

Then the next test prints this:
t/40blobs..
1..0
skipping test on this platform

Then there are a few tests (t/50commit, t/ak-dbd) that print this:
t/50commit..
Can't call method "func" without a package or object reference at
t/mSQL.dbtest  line 99.
1..16
not ok 1
dubious

Finally, several tests print a message like this:
t/akmiscMsql's message: Unknown database "test" at
t/akmisc.t line 1 21.
Cannot select database 'test': Unknown database "test".
Please make sure that a database "test" exists
and that you have permission to read and write on it.
1..345
ok 1
not ok 2

Things that I have checked:  YES, THE SERVER IS RUNNING.  I can see it
listed with the command "ps -ax," and I am able to create a database
using the msqladmin utility.  As far as write permission goes, because I
don't have an ACL file yet (since I don't really have any databases
created except as tests) mSQL prints the message that permission is
global read/write, so it seems like that shouldn't be an issue.  The
thing I'm more uncertain about is where mSQL is supposed to find these
databases called "test" in the first place, and I'm not sure how to even
determine this.

If anyone can help with this problem, I'd really appreciate it.

P.S. -- To those on the Debian list who would like to respond to this,
I'm not on the list to to a problem with my ISP's handling of the huge
amounts of mail it generated, so please respond via email; Thanks.
 


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Re: qddb

1998-01-18 Thread bhmit1
On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Tom Ed White wrote:

> One hole in Linux distributions, needed by clueless desktop users, is an 
> easy to use database. PostgresSQL is fine for running a hospital, but is 
> not so apropriate for many of us.

Have you tried pgaccess from the libpgtcl package?  It's a very nice front
end.  Although, like PostgreSql, it's not done yet.  I still think the
major hole is a good, free, easy to use word processor (I've fallen back
to latex with emacs and I'm starting to like it, but others won't).  (Yes
I'm aware of star office, the next thing I try will be wurd.)

Good luck,
Brandon

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Turn off shadow passwords...

1998-01-18 Thread Steve Morrill
How do I turn off shadow passwords?  I'm still trying to get ppp
working. I"ve got shadow passwords enabled, and would like to try
disabling that to see if it makes a difference

TIA!!

Steve


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inetd problems!!!

1998-01-18 Thread Christopher Jason Morrone

(this is an all hamm system)

Ok, I've got some problems.  Namely, inetd is no longer started at boot
time, whats up with that?

Here's what happened.  I decided to install xinetd because I thought that
might fix some of the other random net problems I was having.  (finger
connections from the outside world were being refused, ls didn't show
any output for outside anonymous users, etc)

So I installed it.  That package has problems.  xinetd wasn't started when
the package was done, and it didn't start after a reboot.

That was annoying...so I removed that package.  I think that inetd should
be reinstated at this point, but the package doesn't do that.  So now I'm
without an inetd.  So I use dpkg -S one inetd and see its in the netbase
package.  So I removed just that package and then reinstalled it.

For some reason, inetd STILL is no longer being started.  Any ideas?


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Re: Turn off shadow passwords...

1998-01-18 Thread bhmit1
On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Steve Morrill wrote:

> How do I turn off shadow passwords?  I'm still trying to get ppp
> working. I"ve got shadow passwords enabled, and would like to try
> disabling that to see if it makes a difference

shadowconfig off

Brandon

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Re: Turn off shadow passwords...

1998-01-18 Thread Ben Pfaff
   How do I turn off shadow passwords?  I'm still trying to get ppp
   working. I"ve got shadow passwords enabled, and would like to try
   disabling that to see if it makes a difference

shadowconfig off


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Re: inetd problems!!!

1998-01-18 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Christopher Jason Morrone wrote:

> That was annoying...so I removed that package.  I think that inetd should
> be reinstated at this point, but the package doesn't do that.  So now I'm
> without an inetd.  So I use dpkg -S one inetd and see its in the netbase
> package.  So I removed just that package and then reinstalled it.
> 
> For some reason, inetd STILL is no longer being started.  Any ideas?

Check the following:

  * Does /usr/sbin/inetd exist?

  * Does /etc/init.d/netbase exist?

  * Do you have symbolic links in /etc/rc?/S??netbase to
/etc/init.d/netbase?

If yes to all and still having problems, try starting the daemon by
hand and see what it says.

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Re: inetd problems!!!

1998-01-18 Thread Christopher Jason Morrone
On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Christopher Jason Morrone wrote:
> 
> > That was annoying...so I removed that package.  I think that inetd should
> > be reinstated at this point, but the package doesn't do that.  So now I'm
> > without an inetd.  So I use dpkg -S one inetd and see its in the netbase
> > package.  So I removed just that package and then reinstalled it.
> > 
> > For some reason, inetd STILL is no longer being started.  Any ideas?
> 
> Check the following:
> 
>   * Does /usr/sbin/inetd exist?
> 
>   * Does /etc/init.d/netbase exist?
> 
>   * Do you have symbolic links in /etc/rc?/S??netbase to
> /etc/init.d/netbase?
> 
> If yes to all and still having problems, try starting the daemon by
> hand and see what it says.

Ok.  All of that would be "yes".  And when I just run inetd by hand, it
doesn't say anything, it works perfectly fine.  Maybe I should make sure
it removes all of its config files when I remove netbase, and then install
again.  I think that xinetd did weird things to my init files.

Hmm...everything works great when I start initd by hand, I guess I will
have to purge all of the configs...


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Re: How do I find out what version of ebian is on a machine?

1998-01-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Stan Brown wrote:

> All ths talk of libc5 to libc6 upgrades gotme thnking about upgarding.
> Since it matters at this point in time for upgradeing, how do I
> determine what version of Debian is on a given machine?

cat /etc/debian_version

but IMO, it's worthless information. in fact, IMO the concept of a
'debian version' is essentially worthless...as soon as one package is
upgraded, the debian_version is no longer valid. it's useful as a rough
guide to tell you approximately what era a system was built in (and,
by extrapolation/guesswork how difficult it might be to upgrade to the
latest distribution release)

the only versions numbers that really matter are the version numbers
of the packages you have installed. type 'dpkg -l' to get a complete
listing. pipe the output into less because it'll be several screenfuls
long.

type 'dpkg -l | grep "^ii"' to get a listing of only the installed
packages.



BTW, i've been running hamm for months and this is what /etc/debian_version
contains on my systems:

$ cat /etc/debian_version
1.3

this isn't surprising, though, because debian 2.0 aka hamm hasn't been
released yet.


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RE: Netscape 4.04.... [Read this Please!]

1998-01-18 Thread ramin

On 18-Jan-98 Timothy M. Hospedales wrote:
>I have been following various messages about Netscape 4.04, and it
>seems to me that lots of people's NSN4 don't do Java properly, AND,
>(Please correct me if i'm wrong), I haven't seen any successfull
>reponses to mine or anyone else's messages about fixing this problem.
>So! Will anyone who's NSN4 will do Java applets properly please
>respond to this, then maybe we can figure out what those of us whose
>Java does not work have missed.
>
>Thanks,
>Timothy
>

Hi!
I run Netscape Version 4.04[en]-97308 here and didn't have any problems with
Java after setting the MOZILLA_HOME environment variable to
"/usr/local/netscape404/".
I have only Navigator and not the Comunictor-Package, if that makes any
difference.
I used the install-script that came with the Package. The binary lies in 
/usr/local/netscape404/ and is softlinked against /usr/local/bin/netscape.
java40.jar is in /usr/local/netscape404/java/classes/

Good luck, Ramin


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Re: Problems with 80386 and 4 MB of RAM

1998-01-18 Thread Fabian Knittel
> Von: Sten Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Betreff: Re: Problems with 80386 and 4 MB of RAM
> Datum: Sonntag, 18. Januar 1998 00:32
> 
> "Fabian Knittel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > 
> > boot=/dev/hda3
> > root=/dev/hda3
> > compact
> > install=/boot/boot.b
> > map=/boot/map
> > vga=normal
> > delay=20
> > image=/vmlinuz
> > label=Linux
> > read-only
> > 
> 
> A shoot in the dark: Try putting the "root" line after the "image"
> line.


It now looks like this:


--snip--

boot=/dev/hda3
# compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=20
image=/vmlinuz
root=/dev/hda3
label=Linux
read-only

--snip--


lilo -v then reports:


--snip--

LILO version 19, Copyright 1992-1996 Werner Almesberger

Reading boot sector from /dev/hda3
Merging with /boot/boot.b
Boot image: /vmlinuz
Added Linux *
/boot/boot.0303 exists - no backup copy made.
Writing boot sector.

--snip--



But at bootup I still get the "LI" - message. Nice try ;-)


> The first stage boot loader was able to load the second stage boot
loader,
> but has failed to execute it. This can either be caused by a geometry
> mismatch or by moving /boot/boot.b without running the map installer.

Could this be caused by a geometry mismatch? (I don't know what it
means...) 
I don't have ANY problems when booting by floppy (and I'm going too stick
to booting from a floppy, with no problems... :-)

Thanks for your help so far.

- Fabian


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Re: Problems with 80386 and 4 MB of RAM

1998-01-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Fabian Knittel wrote:

> > A shoot in the dark: Try putting the "root" line after the "image"
> > line.

that wouldn't (shouldn't) make any difference at all, except that you now
have to repeat the "root=" line for every image listed in lilo.conf. 
values set in the global section of lilo.conf are "inherited" by all the
images unless they over-ride them. 

that's why i put "read-only" in the global section rather than with each
image (i know debian does that by default...i've got used to changing it
on every debian box i build).


> --snip--
> boot=/dev/hda3
> # compact
> install=/boot/boot.b
> map=/boot/map
> vga=normal
> delay=20
> image=/vmlinuz
> root=/dev/hda3
> label=Linux
> read-only
> --snip--

try "linear".

---cut here---
boot=/dev/hda3
root=/dev/hda3
linear
# compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=100
read-only

image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
---cut here---

> Could this be caused by a geometry mismatch? (I don't know what it
> means...) 

the linear option should fix that.  see /usr/doc/lilo for more information.

craig

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Re: Problems with 80386 and 4 MB of RAM

1998-01-18 Thread Stephen Gregory
> --snip--
> 
> boot=/dev/hda3

I can't rember what your exact setup was, but you might want to change
this to

boot=/dev/hda

That is how I have it set. ( I have a dual booting linux + dos/win95
machine) IIRC this will set the boot information for the whole drive
(mater boot record). The above line( boot...hda3) will set the boot
information on the third partition (partition boot record). You might
want to boot to dos and run 'fdisk /mbr' to insure that the changes
made by previous instances of lilo are erased.

Nothing like trial and error to solve a problem. :-)

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smail 3.2.0.100-4, won't accept mail form port25 no more

1998-01-18 Thread Neilen Marais
Hi all

I use fetchmail to pop my mail usually, deliviring the mail locally by
connection to smail via the standard port 25.  Now smail still answers
to port 25 if I telnet to it, but it does not for some reason want to
deliver messages sent there.  It does still seem to handle messages
sent by calling it as sendmail, which I have set XFmail to do now.  I
can't seem to get fetchmail to work that way though.

The problem only seems to have shown up since I upgraded my packages to
the latest HAMM, which included the smail version mentioned in the
subject.  If I run Pine, I get this possibly usefull error message:

[Error sending: 501 HELO requires a valid host name as operand:
'localhost'

smail is set up using the first option when it ask me what kinda host I
am (connected to net via TCP/IP or something similar)

And when it comes to smart-host setup, I have configured to use my
ISP's smtp server (I am a dialup user, BTW), and to use it for all mail.

Ideally I'd like to know how to fix my smail problem, but in the mean
time, knowing how to set fetchmail up to work in mda mode would be
useful too.

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Re: qddb

1998-01-18 Thread john
Tom Ed White writes:
> One hole in Linux distributions, needed by clueless desktop users, is an
> easy to use database. PostgresSQL is fine for running a hospital, but is
> not so apropriate for many of us.

I'm pretty clueless when it comes to database stuff, but I found
PostgresSQL a snap compared to qddb.  I never did get the itcl stuff
untangled.
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Re: inetd problems!!!

1998-01-18 Thread Martin Bialasinski
Christopher Jason Morrone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ok.  All of that would be "yes".  And when I just run inetd by hand, it
> doesn't say anything, it works perfectly fine.  Maybe I should make sure
> it removes all of its config files when I remove netbase, and then install
> again.  I think that xinetd did weird things to my init files.
> 

If you install xinetd, it will instert a line in your /etc/init.d/netbase:

if [ -s /etc/rc2.d/S20xinetd ] ; then
   exit 0

So this file won't be exectuted, but /etc/init.d/xinetd will.

I believe you still have this line in the file.

BTW: the reason for xinetd not working as you expected is most likely, that
/etc/init.d/xinetd looks for rpc.portmap, which has been renamed to portmap
recently.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: Netscape 4.04.... [Read this Please!]

1998-01-18 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
My MOZILLA_HOME as well as all the other directories NSN  must find as
described in the README are already set. :(.However, everyone who has replied
indicating success seems to be running full hamm. Mine is half bo, half hamm.
I suspect that the problem is rooted in the half bo, half hamm thing.
Does anyone run applets successfully in NSN4 under a dual libc5 & libc6
system?Thanks,
Timothy.

> > Mine works fine.  I'm running full hamm, how about you?
> >
>   Works fine here too, full hamm.
>
>   For those who are having trouble, you need to set the environment variable
> MOZILLA_HOME to the path where netscape is located.  On my machine, it is
> located in...
>
>   MOZILLA_HOME=/usr/lib/netscape
>
> 
> Orn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sendmail and delivery

1998-01-18 Thread Greg Green
Hi,
I am going to be getting a dedicated 128kbps ISDN connection for my
network and am going to setup a mail server.
I plan on using sendmail and was wondering what type of delivery  would
be ideal for this.  The only reason I want to use sendmail, is because I
am slightly familiar with it already but have never done the setup for
it.
I plan on using Hamm for this new server also.

Any suggestions on a good way to set this up?

Thanks,
Greg Green


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Re: Linux

1998-01-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Jan 18, 1998 at 01:12:09PM -, Richard Thompson wrote:
> How similar, in terms of user interface / command structure is Debian Linux
> to SCO Unix or any of the other major commercial Unix versions?

At least so similar as the major commercial Unix versions to each other.
Linux software tries to be conform to some standards as POSIX, FSSTND and
other. There are people who can you tell more about it, but I think Linux is
more Unix than the other Unices ;)

You have all standard Unix commands + options and even more.

Come and feel like at home,
Marcus

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Re: How do I find out what version of ebian is on a machine?

1998-01-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Jan 18, 1998 at 08:10:36AM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
>   All ths talk of libc5 to libc6 upgrades gotme thnking about upgarding.
>   Since it matters at this point in time for upgradeing, how do I
>   determine what version of Debian is on a given machine?

There is probably no such thing like a debian version, because Debian
consists of seperate packages, and each of them has an own version number.

This gives finer graduation and makes it easier to fix parts of the system.

Well, there are major stable releases, where we try to put together a stable
system, where all packages fit nicely together. The last one was Debian
1.3.1, which some revisions that followed.

You can get an idea of your version of Debian if you compare the version
numbers of the essential packages. There is also a file /etc/debian_version,
but this does not really reflect the version of the system as a whole. It
says something like: "Hey, the last major upgrade leaded to this version".

Hope this helps,
Marcus

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hamm procps bug?

1998-01-18 Thread Steve Martin
Is there an estimate on when the fixed .deb version of procps is going to
be released? It's the last thing I need to install to complete the
transition from Bo to Hamm, and is preventing me from upgrading to kernel
2.1.78.

TIA,
Steve Martin
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On Sat, Jan 17, 1998 at 01:05:17AM -0800, George Bonser wrote:
>
> Preparing to replace procps 1:1.2.2-1 (using
.../base/procps_1.2.5-1.deb)
> ...
> Unpacking replacement procps ...
> dpkg: error processing
> debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/base/procps_1.2.5-1.deb
> (--install):
>  trying to overwrite directory `/bin' in package acroread with
> nondirectory

this was allready mentioned in the list, the fixed procps is stuck in
incomming..


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ImgStar 1.1 not compatible with new XV/ImageMagick

1998-01-18 Thread Terrence Brannon

It appears that Imgstar 1.1 is only capable of converting PBM files
built around the time of xv3.00:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /newport/pkg/ImgStar/Bin : ./imgPnmToFlt < 
/newport/freeway/brannon/rs/Seescape/web/pointset.pgm 
PnmToFlt: started
Error: can't import image file (PnmToFlt).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /newport/pkg/ImgStar/Bin : 

It would be nice to have it updated for use with more modern versions
of Imagemagick and XV.
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Re: Netscape 4.04.... [Read this Please!]

1998-01-18 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
>I have been following various messages about Netscape 4.04, and it
>seems to me that lots of people's NSN4 don't do Java properly, AND,
>(Please correct me if i'm wrong), I haven't seen any successfull
>reponses to mine or anyone else's messages about fixing this problem.
>So! Will anyone who's NSN4 will do Java applets properly please
>respond to this, then maybe we can figure out what those of us whose
>Java does not work have missed.
> 

Hi,

I am sorry I have not been following the Netscape Navigator problems
threads properly.  I have been able to run java applets in Navigator
4.04 successfully.  But I installed NN 4.04 by hand under /usr/local.

What problems with java applets have you been having?

Here is my setup -

* Netscape files under /usr/local/netscape/
* Symbolic link from /usr/local/bin/netscape to
/usr/local/netscape/netscape
* Environment variable MOZILLA_HOME set to point to /usr/local/netscape

I suspect that your problem is probably because of MOZILLA_HOME.

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Name server(Newbie question)

1998-01-18 Thread Jack W. Elliston
I recently installed debian on my home machine.

I was wondering if someone could give me some pointers, location of help or 
actual advice, on how to set up a nameserver.

I have only one machine and I connect to the internet via ppp and an ISP. 
 I want to use my machine to develop some web applications for later 
release to a "production" machine connected full-time to the internet.  I 
would like advice on how to configure the nameserver so that when I am 
connected I can access the internet but when I am not connected I can still 
use my webserver with virtual domains.

I suspect this is a fairly simple thing and if the FAQ is the place to go 
then please tell me and I'll go there.

Thanks,
Jack


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GIMP & fonts

1998-01-18 Thread Eli Miller
(hamm, 1week old)

Gimp seems to only be able to access about 10 fonts (with text select
tool), and of those, none are smooth, all have blocky edges and dont
scale, so, my question is: how do i fix this?

eli miller


-BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-
Version: 3.1
GCS d-- s: a17 C+++>$ UL++> P+> L++> E W-- N+> o+> K- w++ O V- PS+ PE- Y+ 
PGP t+++ 5+ X++ R tv+ b++ DI+ D++ G++ e* h! r-- y**
--END GEEK CODE BLOCK--


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in.telnetd motd?

1998-01-18 Thread Ian Keith Setford

Yo-

I have a quick question.  Is there, or can there be, a file which displays
a small amount of text(motd) to incoming telnet connections.  I wish to
display a statement of server ownership and liability.

Thanks,

Ian

_
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|  |   .__. .__..__. .__. .__. \  \/ /
|  |   |  | |   \   |  | |  | |  |  \  \  / /
|  |   |  | |  |\ \ |  | |  | |  |   \  \/ /
|  |__ |  | |  | \ \|  | |  |_|  |  / / \ \
|__|__.|__| |__|  \| |___| /_/   \_\
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Re: Netscape 4.04.... [Read this Please!]

1998-01-18 Thread Oz Dror
> I have been following various messages about Netscape 4.04, and it
> seems to me that lots of people's NSN4 don't do Java properly, AND,
> (Please correct me if i'm wrong), I haven't seen any successfull
> reponses to mine or anyone else's messages about fixing this problem.
> So! Will anyone who's NSN4 will do Java applets properly please
> respond to this, then maybe we can figure out what those of us whose
> Java does not work have missed.
Can you give me s specific site that you have problems with.
Very infrequent NSN4.04 crashed.
-Oz
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Re: in.telnetd motd?

1998-01-18 Thread Ben Pfaff
   I have a quick question.  Is there, or can there be, a file which displays
   a small amount of text(motd) to incoming telnet connections.  I wish to
   display a statement of server ownership and liability.

Will /etc/issue.net work?


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Backwards compatibility compiling

1998-01-18 Thread Asher Haig
I'm trying to compile various things that want to use older libs -- 
whether it's trying to link to stuff that wants libc5 or older versions 
of tcl. I have the older versions installed as well with the alt-dev. 
What do I need to do to compile with these?

Seems like it should be simple, but I can't find anything about how to do 
it. 

 
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Re: in.telnetd motd?

1998-01-18 Thread Ian Keith Setford
On 18 Jan 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> 
> Will /etc/issue.net work?

That's what I needed!  Thanks.

-Ian
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|  |   |  | |  |\ \ |  | |  | |  |   \  \/ /
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Re: Backwards compatibility compiling

1998-01-18 Thread Ben Pfaff
   I'm trying to compile various things that want to use older libs -- 
   whether it's trying to link to stuff that wants libc5 or older versions 
   of tcl. I have the older versions installed as well with the alt-dev. 
   What do I need to do to compile with these?

Install altgcc and use i486-linuxlibc1-gcc.


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Re: isapnptools config

1998-01-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 18, 1998 at 10:43:35AM -0500, Gerald Wann wrote:
> Might anyone have some advice on how to go about setting up
> the isapnp.config file? I have run pnpdump and it successfully
> found my (2) PnP cards (modem & sound). However, there are
> a number of configuration options for each, and i would like
> advice on how to decide which one to uncomment in order to
> activate the devices properly. (trial & error ? :-)

Assuming you have two real serial ports and no other modems,
it would probably be best to go for COM3 (0x3E8), on an IRQ
of your choice other than 3 or 4; 5 or 2 would be fine
(depending on what other hardware you have; your sound card might
take 5 and you VGA card might use 2/9).

Once you have enabled it in the configuration file, Debian's
serial setup script (/etc/rc.boot/0setserial) should find the port
and configure it automatically.


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