Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32
Andre Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could you perhaps tell how to make Gnus use mbox format by default? > (serious question of course) Gnus 5.8 has the "nnmbox" backend, so which I assume reads and writes mbox files. Using nnml is a lot nicer though. I hear mutt even groks nnml folders now. Did you read the manual? The node "Getting Mail" describes how to set things up. Also, there's the gnu.emacs.gnus newsgroup, as well as the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list for help.
Re: ISO images
Francesco Chicchiriccò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm searching CD ISO images to download and burn CDs. I'd like to > have the 2.2r2-powerpc version (complete as a set of 3 or more CDs). Using the pseudo-image kit is definitely the best way to go. Try: http://cdimage.debian.org> and more specifically http://cdimage.debian.org/~costar/pseudo-image-kit/> The instructions there are pretty good, except for telling one how to find the .list file for the CDs. I got them from: http://cdimage.debian.org/cd-images/2.2_rev2/powerpc/> Good luck.
Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32
Andre Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 20010309 10:25 +0100: > > Gnus 5.8 has the "nnmbox" backend, so which I assume reads and writes > > mbox files. > > Theoretically yes. But it doesn't work with anything else but ML (here), > and I can't find examples in the manual except for that it's supposed to > work. Wait...you're saying Gnus 5.8 doesn't work with anything except nnml on your installation? Then I would say your installation is broken; it works fine here when I create a group with an nnmbox backend (with 'G m'), and copy some articles into it with 'B c'. > MH written by Mutt isn't recognized by Gnus (here, and that's also > how I understood the manual). Well, this is something to ask on the gnu.emacs.gnus newsgroup; I know of at least two regular posters knowledgeable with both mutt and Gnus. BTW, I'm using a variant of 5.8.8, and the section on nnmh in my manual doesn't mention incompatibility with mutt... > Thank you, I'll keep trying. I think Lisp is a pain. I understand, but keep in mind that using Lisp for the configuration allows one to do some very powerful things; for example, suppose that you use Gnus on both your work computer and your home computer. Instead of duplicating most of your .gnus, and changing only a few things, you can say something like: (setq gnus-select-method `(nntp ,(cond ((string-match "work-computer" (system-name)) "nntp.work.com") ((string-match "home-computer" (system-name)) "nntp.myisp.com" to conditionally set your news server depending on the current hostname. Not that you're going to use this power often, but it's indispensable when you need it (to paraphrase Paul Graham).
booting from CD on Ti PowerBook
Hello, I just got my Ti PowerBook, and I'm trying to install Debian on it, having no use for the proprietary software that came with it. I've made a CD of the non-us 2.2r2 image using the pseudo-image kit and cdrecord. So, I get into OpenFirmware, and then I try using "boot cd:", but that fails with: 0 > boot cd: method not found; ihandle=0 phandle=0 load-size=0 adler32=1 LOAD-SIZE is too small ok 0 > However, "boot cd0" does appear to work at first (I see a line printed on the screen like "Loading ELF", which I assume is coming from the Linux kernel), but then it eventually begins booting MacOS after the screen flashes a few times (I see the "Welcome to MacOS" screen, at which point I reboot). FWIW, the OF header printed when I start the PowerBook is: Apple PowerBook3,2 3.3.6f5 BootROM built on 11/12/00 at 21:26:37 Any help would be appreciated!
Re: booting from CD on Ti PowerBook
[ no need to CC me; I am subscribed to the list ] Wilhelm Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > So, I get into OpenFirmware, and then I try using "boot cd:", but > > that fails with: > > boot cd:\\yaboot Maybe a note about how to boot from CD using OF could be added to the installation guide (section 6.4)? Simply placing the CD in the drive didn't work for me... Anyways, thanks for your help! Everything seems to work now.
Re: Install Question(s)
Roy Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've downloaded and burned to CD-R the latest 2.2r2 ISO images, but > contrary to what is suggested in the install docs, I can't boot from > them (at least not by holding down "C" when rebooting, though I have > to take a look at open firmware tricks still). Apparently the 2.2r2 CDs don't want to boot directly on the newer machines; but you should still be able to boot from CD by going into OpenFirmware (hold Command-Option-O-F on startup), and then typing boot cd:\\yaboot Does that work?
Re: TiBook X keyboard & battery question
Wilhelm Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Aha. Fonts are kinda oversized and smushed together, but Batmon is > working. Kewl. Thanks! By the way, for any GNOME users out there: I have Debianized the (very cool) gpmudmon GNOME applet. Snarf your copy from: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~walters/debian/gpmudmon-applet_0.1.1-1_powerpc.deb> Upstream URL is: http://gehtnix.fernuni-hagen.de/gpmudmon/> BTW, any developers want to sponsor an upload of this?
Re: TiBook X keyboard & battery question
Wilhelm *rafial* Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It is indeed very cool, and it works great with my TiBook. Wow, > with the Gnome packages from Unstable, my Gnome desktop looks almost > as cool as my OSX desktop! (and there are more apps for Gnome ;) Yeah, Gnome 1.4 in sid is definitely looking nice. BTW, I've made an apt-getable archive containing gpmudmon. Just add deb http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~walters/debian/sid / to your /etc/apt/sources.list file.
gimp1.2 for ppc?
Hello, Is there a reason gimp1.2 isn't built for powerpc? I checked the buildd logs I found at http://voltaire.debian.org/~buildd/logs/, and gimp1.2 wasn't listed. I've successfully built it from source on my sid system.
Re: Switching consoles (was Re: XFree4 on Pismo)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason E. Stewart) writes:
> Yeah, the order is critical, the Fn key *must* be the last key
> before F{1-6}, otherwise it won't work. It only took me 6 months to
> figure that one out...
Ahhh. That explains why I wasn't able to switch VTs before. Thanks!
Re: Power Management et. al.
Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I installed woody on my Pismo just a week ago. I'm running a recentish benh > kernel (2.4.3pre1) with PMU / Power Management support. > pmud is also working nicely after I made a few changes to /etc/power/pwctrl: [...] > So far, so good. Closing it makes it sleep. [...] Does anyone know if there is support for this for the tibook? I tried closing my cover, and sometimes the throbbing led comes on after about 10-15 seconds; other times it seems to never come on. It also seems to take a long time (30secs-1m) to wake up after making it sleep this way. snooze -f works fine; the led comes on immediately, and it seems to wake up quickly when I press a key.
Re: Power Management et. al.
[ I'm on the list, so no need to CC: me posts ] Wilhelm *rafial* Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > So far, so good. Closing it makes it sleep. [...] > > > >Does anyone know if there is support for this for the tibook? > > This works fine on my TiBook as long as I am in X when I put it to > sleep. Sleep on the TiBook was failing in console a while back, I > don't know if BenH has fixed it yet. Anyway, I'm currently using a > BenH 2.3.3 kernel. Sleep and wake each only take 1-2 seconds... You're saying it goes to sleep for you automatically when you close the lid (i.e. not by typing snooze -f in X)? If so, what did you have to change in /etc/power/pwrctl (or elsewhere)? I'm running benh's 2.3.3 kernel from two weeks ago or so.
Re: TiPB X Problems
Matt Mohebbi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have been faced with the same error messages starting X regardless > of the changes suggested by this list. I am running 2.4.3-pre6 > kernel from the linuxppc.org ftp site on debian unstable. I have had > the problem with X 4.0.2 and I just upgraded to 4.0.3 from branden's > site and I still get the same error. Yaboot has been configured to > append video=atyfb video=ofonly. My TiBook boots the XFree from unstable with no 'append=' line in /etc/yaboot.conf...have you tried removing them?
Re: Audio CD's on tibook?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David N. Welton) writes: > Anyone got audio cd's working with the tibook? In the same vein, has anyone gotten a cd ripper like cdparanoia working? I get an error message about an invalid ioctl...
Re: Bug#96251: [powerpc] xmms fails to play mp3/ogg files
[ I'm on the -powerpc list, no need to Cc: me ] Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > XMMS with OSS works fine here on a Pismo running testing, xmms > 1.2.4-4, kernel 2.4.4 (BenH). Hm, I'm running sid as of a week or two ago on my tibook, with the same version of xmms and BenH's 2.4.4 kernel (+ ipsec patches). Does the pismo use the dmasound_pmac driver? Also, do your version numbers match these? Versions of the packages xmms depends on: ii libc6 2.2.2-1GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone ii libglib1.2 1.2.10-1 The GLib library of C routines ii libgtk1.2 1.2.10-1 The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X ii xlibs 4.0.2-13 X Window System client libraries
Re: Bug#96251: [powerpc] xmms fails to play mp3/ogg files
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmm. Could you try to reproduce this with an older kernel and a > newer glibc? I forgot to mention that I can't use an older kernel (presuming you mean 2.2), because neither sound nor X will work on a TiBook with 2.2 AFAIK, which pretty much precludes running XMMS :) And I don't see a newer glibc available for powerpc... But I can confirm that it works for me with the Esound daemon, but not with OSS. Hm.
Re: Bug#96251: [powerpc] xmms fails to play mp3/ogg files
Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Colin Walters wrote: > > > > I forgot to mention that I can't use an older kernel (presuming > > you mean 2.2), because neither sound nor X will work on a TiBook > > with 2.2 AFAIK, which pretty much precludes running XMMS :) > > At least X should work there, not sure about sound. The problem I was running into with 2.2 was that I got no video at all after bootup unless I passed video=ofonly, which means X can't run. > > But I can confirm that it works for me with the Esound daemon, but > > not with OSS. Hm. > > Make sure that esd is set up to release the sound device during inactivity > (man esd, /etc/esound/esd.conf) and that you have permission to use /dev/dsp . I don't think ESD or permissions are the problem; as I said in one of my previous posts, mpg321 works on mp3s just fine (without ESD).
Re: Anyone have 'cmucl' working?
Tovar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I tried the older binary on the 'www.cons.org' site and it faulted > immediately. 'cmucl' compiles itself, so it's non-trivial to build > from scratch. Does anyone already have a working copy or do i need > to try cross-compile the thing? IIRC, Python support for PowerPC isn't finished yet, but you might try asking on the cmucl-help or cmucl-imp mailing lists. Also, I think I remember seeing an announcement about MCL making their kernel/compiler "open source"...
Re: Developing GNOME
"Lorenzo De Vito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In which package I can find glibconfig.h ? I tried it in glib but > there was only glib.h. Try adding `glib-config --cflags` to your CFLAGS. That will always do the right thing.
Re: fetchmail and postfix-upgrade broken? add-on
Georg Koss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sorry, I forgot to mention when doing the postfix dpkg-reconfig the > postfix-installation script exits with an error-number 2. At least for this problem, there seems to be a bug already filed (#98008). Check out http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=98008&repeatmerged=yes
Re: fetchmail and postfix-upgrade broken?
Georg Koss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Running woody on my box i did a mozilla download this morning. With > it came an automatic fetchmail and postfix-upgrade. Despite I tried > to configure my postfix as it was it's still broken. Now I'm far > away of beeing an expert and after hours I have no idea whats going > wrong. I'm not able to send local mail neither to my relayhost. With problems like this, it really helps to paste some of the entries in /var/log/mail.log. > In /etc/postfix all uid and gid are root (that seems a difference if > I remember right) and the symlink postfix-start is > missing. "Postmap" works fine but "postfix reload" fatally fails. This might be one of #98008, #97763, #98116. Could you look at those bugs and see if any are similar to your problem? If so, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with additional information (after replacing BUGNUM with the number of the bug).
Re: Woody Impressions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason E. Stewart) writes: > Two annoying things about recent versions of Gnus: > * I can't turn off emoticons (and it looks really stupid in source > code patches) Does (setq gnus-treat-display-smiles nil) do the trick? > * It turns on reading of HTML'ized mail by default (and I can't > figure out how to turn it off). How about: (setq mm-automatic-display (remove "text/html" mm-automatic-display)) BTW, there is the g.e.gnus newsgroup, as well as the ding mailing list...
Re: Woody Impressions
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > its compiled --without-debug --with-optimization (or however those > are named) and with -O3 compiler optimization. believe me, it can't > be optimized anymore then it is as far as build opts. > > unless of course -O3 is bogus and harmful on powerpc... i wouldn't > know. I would do benchmarking with both -O2 and -O3; some applications run faster under -O2.
Re: 2.4.5-pre3 hangs (was Re: reiserfs empirical stu)
Andrew Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's really got a specific symptomology. I am almost tempted to say > it has something to do with powersaving/sleeping, as it only happens > when the system is idle, virtually always when the video is off > (although it runs for hours with the video off when I'm keeping it > busy) and like that. Isn't this just the same problem that was summarized in Kernel Traffic #120? http://kt.zork.net/kernel-traffic/latest.html#2> I get random lockups every few days on my 2.4.3 SMP ia32 box, too. It's funny that you mention it has something to do with sleeping, because while you surely meant putting the computer to sleep, my computer only hangs when *I'm* sleeping! It never hangs when I'm awake. Usually every few days, I'll wake up in the morning to find it locked hard. Truly bizarre, I know :)
potato r3
So, I finally got my TiBook back from Apple repair, who kindly reinstalled MacOS. After re-erasing it and installing potato r3, I tried to boot my new Debian system, and I got the "image not found" message from yaboot. At first, I thought I'd screwed up mkofboot, but I eventually traced this message back to the problem that on the new system, /vmlinux was a symlink to boot/vmlinux-2.2.19, which didn't exist! In fact, my whole /boot directory was empty. And just now, looking at the output of "dpkg -l 'kernel-image*'", I don't have any kernel images installed. Using OF, I was able to boot from the kernel from the CDROM with root=/dev/hda5, and from there finish the installation. One other thing; I noticed that the potato r3 CDROM booted on my TiBook, but there was just a white screen. I went into OF and booted using video=ofonly, which worked. Maybe video=ofonly could be made the default for installations? There's probably some reason it's not (I know next to nothing about the PPC world), but I thought I'd mention it.
postgresql?
Does anyone know what's up with the main postgresql package in powerpc sid? It doesn't appear to be in the archive, and I didn't see a failed build log on voltaire. The postgresql-doc package is available, though, which indicates the buildd must have at least tried to build the postgresql source package. But I was able to dpkg-buildpackage from the source package just fine. Also, xlibosmesa3 and xlibosmesa3-dev appear to be unavailable at the moment, which makes task-x-window-system uninstallable, but I assume this is a transient problem...
Re: postgresql?
[ I'm on the list, no need to CC me ] Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I see it's in non-US, is there a buildd for that? > > No, there isn't at present. Voltaire is a dual-processor machine, right? Could it run another buildd for non-US packages? Or would we need to actually build the packages outside of the US? I don't pretend to fully understand the US export regulations... How do the other arches deal with this?
Re: potato r3
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > well thats normal... sortof. the kernel is installed as part of the > `install OS and kernel modules' which copies the kernel from the > rescue image. you should have at least had the quik cruft in thier > though... Well, I did skip the tasksel installation (by answering N to apt-get), because I was upgrading to sid anyways. But I would think that I would still have had a kernel installed as part of the base system installation. I did remove quik right after rebooting, so that might explain why there wasn't other stuff in /boot. > probably a good idea, enough machines need it... it works on all of > them it just makes things hideously slow. i would prefer getting > framebuffer patches into the debian kernels so its not required > though. running a system with video=ofonly is PAINFUL. Ok, well, if there is going to be a potato r4, it would be nice. I think running slowly is better than not running (or rather, not running usefully) at all...
Re: potato r3
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > did you run the `Install Operating System kernel and modules' step > in dbootstrap? (before the base install) thats when the kernel is > installed. i just did a potato r3 installation a week ago and did > not have a problem with lack of kernel. Yeah, I'm almost positive I did (could I have really avoided it?). But, I just had to do another reinstall, and /boot did have the kernel in it. However, I still wasn't able to boot directly, despite the fact that /boot/vmlinux-2.2.19 existed. I think this might be because I made /boot a separate partition (I plan to move to XFS soon), and the default ybin setup thought the kernels would be on my / filesystem? I understand this is a tricky case. > > Ok, well, if there is going to be a potato r4, it would be nice. > > I think running slowly is better than not running (or rather, not > > running usefully) at all... > > we could add it to the yaboot.conf on the CD, but users will have to > do that themselves since there is no yaboot setup on potato. (it > could be kludged in woody, but id rather not, by that time we should > have kernel patches anyway). I think it makes sense to make video=ofonly the default for the CD (assuming there will be a potato r4). And, since (for potato) users already have to frob their /etc/yaboot.conf after installation anyways, so I don't see the disadvantage in adding it to the default append=, possibly with a comment explaining when it's needed.
Re: Install on 466 MHz G4?
"Mark K. Gardner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Welcome to yaboot version 0.9 > Config file read, 158 bytes > Loading kernel... > Image not found try again > Warning ! default close called ! > boot: > > At this point I have no idea what to type! Would someone please > enlighten me on what I should do? Does anyone know why installing on > my 466 MHz G4 should be so different from the 2x450 MHz G4 at work? Somehow I managed to recently do a potato r3 install, but not install a kernel image. My suggestion is to boot from the CD, using your disk as the root filesystem: OpenFirmware: boot cd:\\yaboot yaboot: debian root=/dev/hda11 That should at least allow you to boot into Debian and see if you have the same problem I did (no kernel image in /boot). If so, a quick 'apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.19' should hopefully do the trick. I hope this helps!
Re: Postgresql
Russell Hires <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm trying to install zope-popy and python-popy for my zope install, > but it appears that it depends on postgresql > 7.0.3. I'm surprised > that woody is using 6.5. I realize debian's conservative philosophy, > but I at least thought we'd be at version 7.0... > > Anyone have any thoughts about this? Funny you mention this, as there was a thread a while back with almost the exact same subject (except postgresql wasn't capitalized). To save you the trouble of looking at the archives, powerpc has no non-US autobuilder, so some things can get out of date. In this case, however, I think PostgreSQL 7.0 is in sid. Why it's not in testing, I'm not sure. But you should be able to dpkg-buildpackage it yourself anyways.
Re: Postgresql
Russell Hires <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I checked through that group of postings (after you mentioned this, > I should have checked first), and very little of it actually > revolved around postgresql, that I could tell. They were related, > but not about the actual Subject: line. Well, they talked about the state of non-US for powerpc, so it was relevant. > I downloaded the 7.1.2 package source and related files, but now I > can't even compile it. The error message I get (by taking the easy > way out) when I do the "debian/rules binary" is : checking for > CRYPTO_new_ex_data in -lcrypto... no configure: error: library > 'crypto' is required for OpenSSL make: *** [config.cache] Error 1 You need openssl (more specifically the libssl-dev package), I believe. I don't know if it's in woody yet. > I've tried various methods of getting the 'crypto' library > installed, and none of them worked. I've found that the 'crypto' > library is variously three different libs, or one. The Build-Depends: for postgresql include libssl-dev, so that's the one you want. > Interestingly, if I do "debian/rules binary" again, I get a > different error message: I'd use "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc", as it runs "debian/rules clean" first for you, too (and not doing this is probably why multiple invocations of debian/rules binary behave differently) > Of course, getting perl5 (which 'apt-get install perl5' or '5.6' > calls 'perl' and 'perl5-base') isn't working, either, because I've > got the newest version, but for some reason doesn't work when I'm > compiling from (dsc) source. Weird. Without knowing more about the problem, I couldn't say anything about it. > What fun this is! Such is life with Debian unstable, or even testing.
Re: Postgresql
[ I'm on the list, no need to CC me ] Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > With APT 0.5 or later, apt-get build-dep postgresql should install all > build-dependencies for postgresql. Also, it should be mentioned that recent apt versions grok apt-get install postgresql/unstable which is pretty handy. You need to have the unstable apt lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list, and you'll want to set the default release to "woody".
gdb-cvs packages available
Well, I got irritated with the fact that gdb 5.0 didn't work with the 2.4 kernel on PowerPC, so I built packages from recent GDB CVS. It took a little bit of hacking in powerpc-linux-nat.c, but it appears to work. apt-able at: deb http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~walters/debian/sid ./ Just do "apt-get install gdb-cvs". It currently Conflicts: gdb. If people bug me enough, I might make it able to be installed alongside gdb 5.0.
looking for sponsor for gpmudmon-applet
Hello, I'm looking for someone to sponsor my packages of gpmudmon, a GNOME applet for displaying the battery information from pmud. It is apt-able at: deb http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/debian/sid ./
Re: gdb-cvs packages available
Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could you please clarify? I run the Debian packaged GDB on PowerPC > all the time. I've not had the slightest problem with it, beyond > threads and the like. Well, I just tried 5.0 again, and it does work for me. Weird. Before, it simply segfaulted when I started it. Then again, that was a while ago, when I was also getting random illegal instructions from the dynamic linker... Regardless though, my application does use pthreads, which the CVS version of GDB seems to grok well enough, so I'll probably maintain the gdb-cvs package until 5.1 is released.
Re: gdb-cvs packages available
Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Indeed, you could do that... or I could finish adopting GDB :) I > just got permission from the maintainer to take it; I'll be > uploading a CVS snapshot to unstable to simply replace 5.0, seeing > as there's no noticeable testsuite regressions or even usability > regressions in my experience. Cool, please do!
Re: What's the best replacement editor for ae?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss) writes: > Unforunatly, I hoped on PPC there might be other alternatives as > well. Why? I don't see how the underlying hardware could really make a difference for a text editor... > I don't want to start a "which is better" war, all I want is an editor > which has keyboard shortcuts like I mentioned in my other posting. This is getting offtopic for -powerpc, but anyways...if this is your only constraint, it would take rather very little code to make Emacs have those keybindings. In fact, here's the code to do the "Files" part: (global-set-key (kbd "C-q") 'save-buffers-kill-emacs) (global-set-key (kbd "C-s") 'save-buffer) (global-set-key (kbd "C-n") 'find-file) (global-set-key (kbd "C-o") 'find-file) (global-set-key (kbd "C-w") 'kill-buffer) (global-set-key (kbd "C-p") 'print-buffer)
Re: pppconfig on iMac
Jan Schröder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am quite new to debian on ppc. I need some help with the internal > modem in my iMac. Which is the device name of this modem? I tried > /dev/ttySx ans /dev/cua Any of these worked. I'd appreciate a good > advice. On my machine, it's /dev/cua/0. But I'm using 2.4 with devfs. Maybe you could try "dmesg | grep -i modem"? On my system, this prints: tty00 at 0xc9804020 (irq = 22) is a Z8530 ESCC (cobalt modem)
Re: looking for sponsor for gpmudmon-applet
Grant Hollingworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The one I grabbed from > http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~walters/debian/sid/ has problems with > the Crux GTK theme. That's the same one I'm looking for a sponsor for :) > It could also be a problem with Crux, or with my installation of > it. Anyway, gpmudmon-applet won't load while Crux is the active > theme. I can change the theme, load gpmudmon-applet, and then change > the theme back. It's a bit of a hassle. > > Has anyone else had this problem? Well, I tried and failed to get the Crux theme to run on my system, and upstream for gpmudmon seems to have dropped off the face of the earth: Jun 30 18:17:04 space-ghost postfix/smtp[20712]: C7CF0A36C9: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=17670, status=bounced (fernuni-hagen.de: host not found) and Jul 2 16:05:45 space-ghost postfix/smtp[28696]: 80454A35E2: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=224, status=deferred (connect to steinmann.cx[195.224.98.180]: Connection timed out) But if I get a chance soon, I'll look at it. I'd tell you to file a bug report, but it isn't part of Debian yet :/
Re: Xfree4(.1) on Lombard?
Christian Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Of course it didn't work out, after several hours of fiddling around > I see there are too many failed hunks. Maybe I would do it when I > know that I am really the first person building xfree4.1. Am I? http://people.debian.org/~branden> I don't think you need to go to XFree 4.1 to get X running, though; I thought I've seen people report success with earlier XFree versions.
Re: Booting 2.2r3 on iBook2
Ron Golan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was unable to boot this way from the Debian 2.2r3 CD on an iBook > dual USB and I just tried it again. I just get a pure white screen, > no boot: prompt or text of any sort. > > I can boot if I enter OpenFirmware and type: > > boot cd:\install\powermac\yaboot > > and then I do get a boot: prompt at which point I can type > > debian video=ofonly > > and boot into dbootstrap. Right, I had the same experience. Are the framebuffer patches going to make it into the kernel for woody? I really think we should either do that, or add video=ofonly as part of the default yaboot setup.
Re: reading linux from MacOs
Phil Fraering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I find myself wondering from time to time, if you don't have to run > MacOS on it, why put up with the aggravation of using a non-X86 > linux? Don't get me wrong, I am _very_ grateful for the time you and > others have put into this; it's given me two computers for the price > of one. Apple laptop hardware is a lot nicer than its ia32 counterparts, in general. > PS: I'm still trying to figure out how to deal with that dpkg > problem I'm having. It won't let me purge the packages, it won't let > me install new ones, it just tells me it can't lock a certain file > or directory or whatever and refuses to do anything. Are you running it with superuser (i.e. root) privileges?
Re: reading linux from MacOs
Phil Fraering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > PS: I'm still trying to figure out how to deal with that dpkg >> > problem I'm having. It won't let me purge the packages, it won't >> > let me install new ones, it just tells me it can't lock a certain >> > file or directory or whatever and refuses to do anything. >> >> Are you running it with superuser (i.e. root) privileges? > > Yes, I am. Would you like to see the error messages? I think it would be better if you posted them to the list, as I can't guarantee I'll have time to look at them. Also, there are certainly people there who know more about apt/dpkg than I do. > It's something that happened because of a crash I had while running > apt. Well, if the logs aren't enormous or anything, just post them to the list, and hopefully someone will be able to answer. If it's not PowerPC specific (and it probably isn't), posting to debian-user might be a good idea too.
Re: help: crash during apt-get install
Phil Fraering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or directory. > dpkg: warning: old pre-removal script returned error exit status 2. > dpkg - trying script from the new package instead > install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or > directory... Hm, do you have a /usr/share/info directory? If not, something is broken; create it, and try reinstalling those packages. > BTW, is there a way I can check overall system consistency in case > there are other gotchas there that I need to know about? There is "debsums" for verifying the MD5 sums of files in packages.
Re: Getting Sound to work
Russell Hires <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've got two problems with sound, actually. The first one is a > mystery. I'm running KDE, and I've got sound support in the kernel > enabled. I read a message in a previous post, from about 3-6 months > ago, that talked about KDE not having a working sound server for > debian-powerpc. Is that still true? It's a mystery because the > System Bell works in the K -> Preferences -> Sound panel. Hm, if you mean the little "ding" sound, I'm pretty sure that's not performed by the sound card. > When I perform echo a random sound to /dev/audio, I hear just the > barest of clicking noisesI tried to use xmms, but it tells me > that it can't open audio. Does the user you are running as have permissions to access /dev/dsp? The best way to do this is to add your user to group "audio". Also, the OSS sound output plugin in XMMS is broken for me (see bug #96251). But using "ogg123 -d oss foo.ogg" works fine, so it's definitely an XMMS bug. The workaround I'm using with XMMS is to use the esound output plugin. If you're using KDE, this might not be an option; I don't know. > Part II Just for fun, I wanted to see if I could play a CD. But, for > some reason, I'm unable to mount my CD player. mount /dev/cdrom > gives me the message: mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not > exist. What can I do about that? Well, I don't think mounting an audio CD would be very useful. Does the cd-playing plugin from XMMS work?
Re: Kernel hangs during booting after fresh installation on G4
Jimmy Kaplowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi PowerPC people. I installed Debian (current unstable, downloading > everything over http, using a CD-RW burned from cvs boot-floppies > from a few days ago) recently on an Apple G4. [ installation failure ] By the way, did you try the potato boot-floppies? I don't think the kernel is different, but it's probably worth a try...
Re: new ibook (icebook) with debian ppc
Matthias Güter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i'm about to buy a new ibook (www.apple.com/ibook) and i'm not > planning to use neiter macos9 nor macosx. as a happy debian > gnu/linux user it is very important to me to know how well the ibook > works with the ppc distro (potato or woody). i'd like to know what > hardware components > ethernet I believe it's regular GMAC ethernet, so it should work. > audio I think this doesn't work at the moment. > modem Should work. > firewire I believe Linux kernel support for FireWire support is still in its growing stages. I don't think it supports Apple hardware yet. > usb Should work. > airport Should work. > tvout I'm not sure. If it's the Rage 128 chip, I think it will work too.
benh 2.4.6 kernel
Is anyone else out there using a recentish benh 2.4.6 kernel with a TiBook? 2.4.4 from a while ago worked fine for me for pretty much everything, but 2.4.6 kills the machine when I close the lid. I would just stick with 2.4.4, except that it locks the machine when I try to build the Debian boot-floppies, I believe when the build process makes a loopback device.
[Yves ] Re: new ibook (icebook) with debian ppc
I believe Yves meant to send this to the list. --- Begin Message --- Colin Walters([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 02:38:56PM -0400: > Matthias Güter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > i'm about to buy a new ibook (www.apple.com/ibook) and i'm not > > planning to use neiter macos9 nor macosx. as a happy debian > > gnu/linux user it is very important to me to know how well the ibook > > works with the ppc distro (potato or woody). i'd like to know what > > hardware components > > > ethernet > > I believe it's regular GMAC ethernet, so it should work. It works well > > > audio > > I think this doesn't work at the moment. Any info about the sound card is welcome ;-) > > modem > > Should work. I have tried it with minicom, and I can establish a dialog with it. So I suspect it should work. > > firewire > > I believe Linux kernel support for FireWire support is still in its > growing stages. I don't think it supports Apple hardware yet. I have no further infos... > > usb > > Should work. My mouse is working very well (3 buttons ok, the wheel is ok too) > > airport > > Should work. Not tried by me > > tvout > > I'm not sure. If it's the Rage 128 chip, I think it will work too. Don't know Basically, I use my new ibook every day with a Debian sid. You need to get the benh kernel (penguinppc.org/~benh) if you want the best result. With pmud the sleep is working too... Yves --- End Message ---
Re: Sleep on TiBook, getting Gnome sounds working
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ozymandias G desiderata) writes: > I'm running sid on my TiBook with vmlinux-2.4.6benh20010705 as my > kernel. Overall, I'm pretty psyched with how well everything works One of my friends (a math guy) who has a passing familiarity with systems like GNU/Linux, upon seeing my TiBook running GNOME for the first time, asked in all seriousness "Is that computer made to run Linux"? Of course, the GNU stickers on the lid probably aided that impression :) > However, it is very sad-making when my system keels over dead with > no warning because its battery has run dry. Yeah, it would be nice if pmud handled this by sending SIGPWR to init (or however it's "traditionally" done). > On another note, I've got sound mostly working on my system. I get > that weird atonal beep from my system after I modprobe dmasound_pmac > (which I have aliased to sound like a good boy, but nothing seems to > notice and/or care except modprobe). mp123 and XMMS both work when > run as superuser (is that right?), Add your regular user account to group "audio". The /dev/dsp device should by default be owned by root.audio, mode 660. > However, I can't get all my cute little Gnome noises to emit from my > computer, nor can I get esd and XMMS to work at the same time. Both > should be able to use /dev/dsp without hogging it, right? Just set XMMS to use ESD as its output plugin.
Re: benh 2.4.6 kernel
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could you resync again ? Sleep is supposed to work with my current > kernels on the TiBook, if it's still locking up your box, some > investigations will be needed. rsync as of about 33 minutes ago doesn't work for me. > Note that if you are using DRI in X I'm not using DRI (although I wish I was :) ). > Note: If the lockup still happen, does it happen while in X, in > console mode, or both ? Do you have any device plugged (USB, > firewire, pcmcia ?) I have my Microsoft USB optical mouse plugged in, and I do have the Airport card installed now, but I don't have the Airport driver module running. > Also, does sleep work with older kernels ? (you have the proper > hacks to pmud scripts for sleep to work properly on core99) ? Yep, it works fine with what is labeled as 2.4.4 from ago...specifically: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/kernels$ ls -al kernel-image-2.4.4+ipsec_spaceghost.2_powerpc.deb -rw-r--r--1 walters src 3589546 Jun 3 03:19 kernel-image-2.4.4+ipsec_spaceghost.2_powerpc.deb I just removed all the hdparm stuff to spin down the disk in /etc/power/pwrctl, which is what made sleep work for me originally... Any other debugging info I can give you? There wasn't anything useful in syslog...
Re: benh 2.4.6 kernel
Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > AFAIK this is related to thermal management. Apparently you should > leave it off for now. It doesn't harm my Pismo though. I don't have thermal management enabled. FWIW, here's the .config: # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # # CONFIG_UID16 is not set # CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK is not set CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y # # Code maturity level options # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y # # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y CONFIG_KMOD=y # # Platform support # CONFIG_PPC=y CONFIG_6xx=y # CONFIG_4xx is not set # CONFIG_POWER3 is not set # CONFIG_POWER4 is not set # CONFIG_8xx is not set # CONFIG_PPC_ISERIES is not set # CONFIG_8260 is not set CONFIG_PPC_STD_MMU=y CONFIG_ALL_PPC=y # CONFIG_APUS is not set # CONFIG_SPRUCE is not set # CONFIG_PCORE is not set # CONFIG_MENF1 is not set # CONFIG_MCPN765 is not set # CONFIG_MVME5100 is not set # CONFIG_PRPMC750 is not set # CONFIG_SANDPOINT is not set # CONFIG_K2 is not set # CONFIG_GEMINI is not set # CONFIG_ZX4500 is not set # CONFIG_PPC601_SYNC_FIX is not set # CONFIG_SMP is not set CONFIG_ALTIVEC=y # CONFIG_TAU is not set # # General setup # # CONFIG_HIGHMEM is not set # CONFIG_ISA is not set # CONFIG_EISA is not set # CONFIG_SBUS is not set # CONFIG_MCA is not set CONFIG_PCI=y CONFIG_NET=y CONFIG_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y # CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set CONFIG_KCORE_ELF=y CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y CONFIG_KERNEL_ELF=y CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=m CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y # # PCMCIA/CardBus support # CONFIG_PCMCIA=y CONFIG_CARDBUS=y CONFIG_I82365=y # CONFIG_TCIC is not set # # Parallel port support # # CONFIG_PARPORT is not set CONFIG_PPC_RTC=y CONFIG_PROC_DEVICETREE=y CONFIG_PPC_RTAS=y # CONFIG_PREP_RESIDUAL is not set # CONFIG_CMDLINE_BOOL is not set # # Memory Technology Devices (MTD) # # CONFIG_MTD is not set # # Plug and Play configuration # # CONFIG_PNP is not set # CONFIG_ISAPNP is not set # # Block devices # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=m # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set # CONFIG_PARIDE is not set # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=4096 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y # # Multi-device support (RAID and LVM) # # CONFIG_MD is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set # CONFIG_MD_LINEAR is not set # CONFIG_MD_RAID0 is not set # CONFIG_MD_RAID1 is not set # CONFIG_MD_RAID5 is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LVM is not set # # Networking options # CONFIG_PACKET=y # CONFIG_PACKET_MMAP is not set CONFIG_NETLINK=y CONFIG_RTNETLINK=y # CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV is not set CONFIG_NETFILTER=y # CONFIG_NETFILTER_DEBUG is not set # CONFIG_FILTER is not set CONFIG_UNIX=y CONFIG_INET=y CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST=y # CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set CONFIG_NET_IPIP=m # CONFIG_NET_IPGRE is not set # CONFIG_IP_MROUTE is not set # CONFIG_ARPD is not set # CONFIG_INET_ECN is not set CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=y # # IP: Netfilter Configuration # CONFIG_IP_NF_CONNTRACK=m CONFIG_IP_NF_FTP=m # CONFIG_IP_NF_QUEUE is not set CONFIG_IP_NF_IPTABLES=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_LIMIT=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_MAC=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_MARK=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_MULTIPORT=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TOS=m # CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TCPMSS is not set CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_STATE=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_UNCLEAN=m CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_OWNER=m CONFIG_IP_NF_FILTER=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_REJECT=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_MIRROR=m CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT=m CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_NEEDED=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_MASQUERADE=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_REDIRECT=m CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_FTP=m # CONFIG_IP_NF_MANGLE is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_LOG is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_TCPMSS is not set CONFIG_IP_NF_COMPAT_IPCHAINS=m CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_NEEDED=y # CONFIG_IP_NF_COMPAT_IPFWADM is not set CONFIG_IPV6=m # # IPv6: Netfilter Configuration # CONFIG_IP6_NF_IPTABLES=m # CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_LIMIT is not set # CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_MARK is not set CONFIG_IP6_NF_FILTER=m # CONFIG_IP6_NF_MANGLE is not set # CONFIG_KHTTPD is not set # CONFIG_ATM is not set # # # # CONFIG_IPX is not set CONFIG_ATALK=m # CONFIG_DECNET is not set # CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set # CONFIG_X25 is not set # CONFIG_LAPB is not set # CONFIG_LLC is not set # CONFIG_NET_DIVERT is not set # CONFIG_ECONET is not set # CONFIG_WAN_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_NET_FASTROUTE is not set # CONFIG_NET_HW_FLOWCONTROL is not set # # QoS and/or fair queueing # # CONFIG_NET_SCHED is not set CONFIG_IPSEC=y # # IPSec options (FreeS/WAN) # CONFIG_IPSEC_IPIP=y CONFIG_IPSEC_AH=y CONFIG_IPSEC_AUTH_HMAC_MD5=y CONFIG_IPSEC_AUTH_HMAC_SHA1=y CONFIG_IPSEC_ESP=y CONFIG_IPSEC_ENC_3DES=y CONFIG_IPSEC_IPCOMP=y CONFIG_IPSEC_DEBUG=y # # ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support # CONFIG_IDE=y # # IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block devices # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y # # Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives # # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set CONFIG_BLK
Re: configuring X for Lime iMac (have tried many things...)
"Noah John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > can you even use rpms in debian? i ask because i was under the > immpression only .debs were usable... For some values of "can", yes. Alien can convert a .rpm to a .deb, but it isn't magic. It can't add patches to convert a package to comply with the FHS/Debian policy, or add menu/debconf/alternatives support, etc etc.
Re: xdm and Login.app looping
Cole Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > whenever I 'startx' or try and directly invoke xdm or Login.app I > type in my username and password It lookes to login but loops, (it > brings up another xdm or Login.app screen). I think it's a problem > in the init's, do any of you know how to fix this? I believe xdm invokes your ~/.xsession file, if it exists. Make sure it's executable, and try doing "ln -s ~/.xsession ~/.xinitrc" and then run startx, to see if your ~/.xsession script fails. Also, your ~/.xsession script shouldn't exit until you want your X session to end. FWIW, the contents of my ~/.xsession is: ,[ ~/.xsession ] | #!/bin/sh | | xmodmap ~/.xmodmap-space-ghost || true | exec gnome-session ` This question is more appropriate for -user, by the way.
Re: benh 2.4.6 kernel
Adam Lazur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Disabling altivec seemed to fix the problem sleeping. It went to > sleep and woke up 7 or 8 times with no problems aside from > temporarily scrambling the console a bit. Yep, disabling altivec worked for me too.
Re: benh 2.4.6 kernel
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could one of you quickly test if the problem still happen with my > current rsync ? I merged some fixes from recent bk _2_4_devel that > may or may not help. Yep, rsync as of about 20 minutes ago, with Altivec support enabled, sleeps just fine for me. Thanks!
Re: "Can't read superblock" booting 2.4.anything"
"John Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For some reason, any 2.4 kernel I try and boot (I've compiled two > from Benh's tree, and got 1 deb from walters and 1 deb from Jonas) I > get the same error: > > it tells me it can't read the superblock, make sure I have a valid > partion, etc and throughs me into single user mode. > [...] Could you post the contents of your /etc/yaboot.conf, your /etc/fstab, and the output of "mac-fdisk -l /dev/hda", please?
Re: "Can't read superblock" booting 2.4.anything"
"John Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For some reason, any 2.4 kernel I try and boot (I've compiled two > from Benh's tree, and got 1 deb from walters and 1 deb from Jonas) I > get the same error: > > it tells me it can't read the superblock, make sure I have a valid partion, > etc and throughs me into single user mode. If I try and fsck it tells me > the file or directory doesn't exist, yet I can mount it and see everything. > e.g.: Duh! I should have realized this earlier. The problem is devfs, which both benh and I have enabled by default, and apparently Jonas does as well. You have three choices. Add 'devfs=nomount' to the append= options for these kernels, or rebuild without devfs support, or do 'apt-get install devfsd' (assuming you're running testing/sid).
Re: kernel oops in Debian's 2.4.4 + cdparanoia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David N. Welton) writes: > Jul 13 13:45:37 localhost kernel: TASK = c29fe000[1774] 'cdparanoia' Last > syscall: 4 You need to save this to a file, then do: apt-get install ksymoops ksymoops /tmp/oops That will resolve the function addresses in backtrace to their symbol names.
Re: stuff i don't know
"Noah John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. Is there a PDF viewer included in potato? how do i tell x to > use it to open pdfs when i double click them? There is xpdf, among other solutions like a pdf to ps converter and gv. Try running "apt-cache search pdf.+view" I think the node "File Types and Programs" in the GNOME Control center will allow you to configure what programs run for certain extensions. > 2. I have an iMac DV SE (graph). I must use modprobe dmasound to > get any sound. This allows xmms to play mp3s, but not cds (it loads > and plays, but no music), nor will the utility named "CD Player" > allow music (same as xmms). Is there a way i can set this to stay > on, and is there a way to get my cds playing? Apparently Apple has braindamaged their machines by not directly connecting the CDROM to the sound card. Try using the XMMS cd-playing plugin to play CDs. I've never tried it, but it should work. > 3. How do I get rid of items that have been placed on the toolbar > at the bottom of the desktop? Assuming I haven't tried anything > (cause i can't right click and such). If all i have to do is right > click tell me how to set a one button mouse to do that... I believe right clicking will pop up a menu. I suggest you enable mouse button emulation (search the archives of this list for information on how to do it). > 4. How do i get the games in gnome to work? Right now I have to hunt > through the file manager... Is there a way to get them to open when i > select them in the debain menu? I did "apt-get install task-gnome-games", and they came up in the "Programs->Games" submenu. I'm not sure why that doesn't work for you.
Re: kernel oops in Debian's 2.4.4 + cdparanoia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David N. Welton) writes: > Woops, sorry about that and thanks for the information. > Unfortunately, things seem to be a bit out of sync, so... I guess > I'll try again in the future. Oh, you mean you got warnings about mismatched and not found symbols and the like? I did too (my machine oopsed yesterday too in XFS code :( ), but it appeared to work. At least, it would probably be worth posting.
Re: stuff i don't know
Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Where did you find the pattern definitions? I had to write a script > that ran multiple "apt-cache search" and then looked for duplicate > responses to do multiple word searches. Thanks. I didn't see it in > the apt-cache man page (and still don't). It's just a regular expression.
Re: gnome-config?
Peter Meilstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also, in general, is there a way to search UNinstalled packages for > a specific file? http://packages.debian.org>
Re: do modules work with 2.4.x kernels?
"Frederick V. Heitkamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have been using the latest benh kernels on my snakebite (G4 533 > dual) powermac however modules do not seem to work. Even if I try > to load modules manually using insmod, they don't "insert". Could you be more specific here? Do you see any error messages? What do they say? Is there anything in the logfiles? Have you tried running insmod with the -v option? > When I do an lsmod no modules show. I even compiled and installed > the latest modutils. The modutils from sid should do the trick. Are you running potato? If so, I'd suggest backporting that package rather than compiling and installing your own. It's very easy to do. Just get the .dsc, the .orig.tar.gz, and the .diff.gz (if there is one), and then do: dpkg-source -x modutils-xxx.dsc cd modutils-xxx && dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc It depends on sysvinit, so you might also have to rebuild that package.
Re: do modules work with 2.4.x kernels?
"Frederick V. Heitkamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't know what I'm running. I got a Debian PPC CD. I think it > has 2.2r3 or something; whatever that is. Then you're running "potato", the stable Debian release. > I looked in the sid binary-powerpc directory on Debian.org. > There's nothing in there as far as .debs. Well, that's because packages are set up in a pool now, and the Packages file in binary-powerpc just points to the right packages in the pool. Check out the pool/ directory on your local Debian mirror. > AFAIK no debian distribution has the latest 2.4.x kernels. It seems > to me that 2.4.6 has really been a major improvement. All the > thinks I care about seem to work very well/stable in it. Well, kernel-image-2.4.4 is in sid, as well as kernel-source-2.4.5. "sid" is the unstable Debian distribution. > I am more than willing to install .debs if I can find them. Thanks > for the tips on building them from sources. I'd like to install > using the debian install system. I'd like to know how to make my > own .debs is there a HOWTO somewhere that explains the procedures in > terms even simpletons like me could follow? Well, there's a fair amount of documentation at: http://www.debian.org/devel/> As for this specific case, just follow the instructions I gave in my previous mail for building a package. One issue you might run into is that a package "Build-Depends" on a newer package than you have. If you're lucky, you can just grab the source for that package, build and install it, then build and install the package you were working on. If you're unlucky, and one of the packages it Build-Depends: on is debhelper, which Depends: on perl 5.6, then you're basically screwed, and it's better to just upgrade to woody or sid. What I would do if I was you is to take Ethan's suggestion and get the source for Adrian Bunk's backport of packages needed for 2.4.x on potato, and then rebuild those for PowerPC. I'd ask on debian-user@lists.debian.org if you need more help with that, unless it's PowerPC-specific, in which case asking here would be good.
Re: Kaffe for woody
Leandro Noferini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am trying to install kaffe on my woody, to use freenet. Well, it looks like libffi isn't available in woody/sid, which would explain why kaffe packages aren't available. > I need to compile it because I can't find any package but I get > always this error: > > System.c: In function `java_lang_System_initProperties': > System.c:418: invalid type argument of `->' > make[3]: *** [System.lo] Error 1 I'd ask about this on the kaffe lists; it looks like a bug in the kaffe code.
Re: gpm & X settings for titanium
Wilhelm *Rafial* Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've had great luck with 4.1.0 in testing (woody). DRI and > acceleration is nice. 4.1.0 has DRI for the tibook? *drool*
Re: gpm & X settings for titanium
Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 4.1.0 has DRI for the tibook? > > *drool* /me cleans up his drool Well, I'm having some problems with the XFree 4.1.0 from branden's repository. It seems to need keyboard_sends_linux_codes to be enabled; otherwise, my key mapping was completely messed up. And even after enabling that, some keys don't work in X, like the arrow keys and the escape key. Also, I couldn't get DRI to work; I started with benh's 2.4.7-pre7 tree, added in DRI support and /dev/agpgart support (but no specific chipset support; which one, if any, should I use for a tibook?). However, the kernel failed with a compilation error in agpgart_be.c, saying flush_cache() needed to be defined. I haven't had a chance to look into that in more detail yet. Anyone have any hints?
Re: JAVA on DebianPPC
"Lorenzo De Vito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What's the better way to run Java on DebianPPC ? I've looked for > Java 2 on www.sun.com but I've found only versions for x86 or Sparc. > There is good compatibility with LinuxPPC Java Version and that > distribuited from Sun? There are debian packages ? If you don't need AWT, Swing, or RMI, you could probably use GCJ. It will be included in woody (the next Debian release), but you could probably download the packages manually and install them. There is also kaffe.
Re: JAVA on DebianPPC
> is this a "political" issue or is there just no maintainer for JAVA > packages? Sun's Java implementation is proprietary software. You can't even redistribute it, much less improve it and share it with your friends, like you can the rest of Debian. That being said though, there was some discussion on the debian-java list about Sun's JDK becoming redistributable, and thus able to go into non-free. Don't hold your breath, though. Meanwhile, GCJ and Kaffe continue to improve...
Re: MS Wheel Mouse (optical USB) doesn't work
"Roland Wegmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I use a MS Wheel Mouse Optical USB (PS/2 Compatible). I red someting > about gpmconfig, but when I use this command, nothing happens. Do I > have to install a "gpm-tool" ? And if so, where can I find it? > Another thing I have seen, is something about XF86Config. Could > anybody help me? I have that same mouse, but I don't use gpm. Hopefully David's advice about using /dev/input/mice will work. > By the way, is it possiple to change the settings, so that my debian > system doesn't boot automatically to the window with the debian > logo? I would prefere a level, where I can start XWindow and Genome > myself. Sure. Just do: rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm Since 2 is the default runlevel, this will prevent GDM from starting up by default.
Re: wget -r segfaults
Peter Meilstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Whenever I try to run wget with the -r option, it either segfaults > immediately, or after completing the first page. Any ideas? > (running on Sid) Yeah, I was getting this too. What sucks is that recompiling with -g made it go away, at least for me :/ I haven't been able to figure it out yet...
Re: ppp and powerbook
Kevin Carney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Recently I tried installing Debian 2.2r3 on my 2000 Powerbook > (Pismo). This laptop is used in two different places, at work (with > a LAN internet connection) and at home (with dialup service). At > work there is no problem using lynx to browse the web or using ping. > However (this is the problem) at home, with dialup service, I can > connect to my ISP using wvdial or pon but I cannot do anything else. > At home, lynx cannot resolve hosts and ping does nothing. This doesn't sound like a PowerPC specific problem. Are you sure your /etc/resolv.conf is correct? Can you ping IP addresses? Do you have any firewall rules that might be dropping packets? I'd carefully compare the network settings of your other working computer with your laptop, and make sure they make sense.
Re: [srivasta@debian.org: Re: Bug#100579: kernel-image should not run quik on NewWorld PowerMacs]
So, this problem is hopefully fixed for pmac architectures. Could anyone tell me what problems they've had on non-pmac PowerPC architectures? I'm looking at the kernel-package code now, and it seems likely that it would break on APUs, Amiga, MBX, and PReP (by defaulting to running LILO). Can anyone confirm this? Are there any other problems?
Bug#107278: kernel-package should not run lilo on PowerPC subarches Amiga, PReP, and MBX
Package: kernel-package
Tags: patch
Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes. Not a big deal on APUS though as we don't have a real
> bootloader, we just say no to all LILO questions.
Ick. I can't believe you didn't report this as a bug! :)
Does this patch look ok to everyone?
cd /usr/src/kernel-package/kernel-package-7.55/kernel/
diff -u /usr/src/kernel-package/kernel-package-7.55/kernel/rules\~
/usr/src/kernel-package/kernel-package-7.55/kernel/rules
--- /usr/src/kernel-package/kernel-package-7.55/kernel/rules~ Tue Jul 24
22:01:58 2001
+++ /usr/src/kernel-package/kernel-package-7.55/kernel/rulesTue Jul 31
13:13:30 2001
@@ -193,6 +193,7 @@
ifneq (,$(findstring $(SUBARCH),APUs apus Amiga))
SUBARCH:=apus
+loader := NoLoader
kimage := vmapus.gz
target = zImage
kimagesrc = $(shell if [ -d arch/$(KERNEL_ARCH)/boot/images ]; then \
@@ -218,6 +219,7 @@
ifneq (,$(findstring $(SUBARCH),MBX mbx))
SUBARCH:=mbx
+loader := NoLoader
kimage := zImage
target = $(kimage)
kimagesrc = $(shell if [ -d arch/$(KERNEL_ARCH)/mbxboot ]; then \
@@ -252,6 +254,7 @@
ifneq (,$(findstring $(SUBARCH),PReP prep))
SUBARCH:=prep
+loader := NoLoader
kimage := zImage
target = $(kimage)
kimagesrc = $(shell if [ -d arch/$(KERNEL_ARCH)/boot/images ]; then \
Diff finished at Tue Jul 31 13:21:45
cd /usr/src/kernel-package/kernel-package-7.55/kernel/
diff -u /usr/src/kernel-package/kernel-package-7.55/kernel/image.postinst\~
/usr/src/kernel-package/kernel-package-7.55/kernel/image.postinst
--- /usr/src/kernel-package/kernel-package-7.55/kernel/image.postinst~ Fri Jul
27 04:11:41 2001
+++ /usr/src/kernel-package/kernel-package-7.55/kernel/image.postinst Tue Jul
31 13:21:16 2001
@@ -43,7 +43,8 @@
my $package_name= "kernel-image-$version";
-my $Loader = "LILO";
+my $Loader = "NOLOADER";
+$Loader = "LILO" if $loader =~ /lilo/io;
$Loader = "SILO" if $loader =~ /silo/io;
$Loader = "QUIK" if $loader =~ /quik/io;
$Loader = "yaboot" if $loader =~ /yaboot/io;
@@ -129,6 +130,7 @@
}
}
+$do_bootfloppy = "" if $loader =~ /noloader/io;
# no floppy disk support available for m68k VME
$do_bootfloppy = "" if $loader =~ /vmelilo/io;
$do_bootfloppy = "" if $loader =~ /quik/io;
@@ -713,6 +715,20 @@
}
exit (0) unless $do_boot_enable; # Exit if explicitly asked to
+
+
+if ($loader =~ /noloader/io) {
+print STDERR << "MSGEND";
+I have determined no bootloader is required for your architecure. If
+this is an not correct, please report a bug against the kernel-package
+package.
+
+Done.
+MSGEND
+;
+exit (0);
+}
+
exit (0) if $loader =~ /silo/i; # SILO does not have to be executed.
exit (0) if $loader =~ /yaboot/i; # yaboot does not have to be executed.
Diff finished at Tue Jul 31 13:25:04
Re: gpm & X settings for titanium
Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > With Xkb, you probably need XkbModel "pc104" or any pc variant with > Linux keycodes, "macintosh_old" otherwise. Without Xkb, it should > work either way. Yep, "pc104" works for me with Linux keycodes. > Don't enable AGP GART (we don't have support yet) or DRM in the > kernel. Instead, build the DRM from XFree86 source. There have been > links posted here to tarballs of just the necessary source to do > that. Hm, direct rendering can work without kernel support? Interesting. Is there any way I could just drop a new upstream tarball into the Debian XFree packages, frob a configure flag and debian/rules, and expect it to work? Or do you just 'make install' into /usr/X11R6? That seems kinda ugly...I'd rather not walk all over my Debian packages.
Re: Questions about notebooks and Debian
John Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmmm, nothing truely official I guess test wise. I own a dual PII 233, > k6-266, PII300, Cell 300a(over clocked at times, but not at the moment), > Athalon 800, PIII 450, Sparc 20(dual 55mhz), U1 170. I have owned and gotten > rid of quite a few more...including a number of laptops. Upon which I have > run linux on all of them. My opinion...and yes, let me emphasize _opinion_, > is that my iBook2 _seems_ to perform at about the level of a Cell 300a > desktop across a wide range of tasks. What about the hard disk? If you're like me and keep a lot of applications open under X, and switch back and forth between them, you're going to be in a little bit of swap. And the disk in my TiBook seems incredibly slow compared to the disks in other machines I have.
Re: how to set PRAM audio level?
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > there is currently no way to do this, audio volume is stored in > another partition of the nvram, probably the undocumented MacOS one. Maybe someone who has MacOS could save a snapshot of the nvram, boot MacOS, frob the volume, then take another snapshot of the nvram and diff them? It doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to track it down from there¹. ¹Speaking with little actual knowledge of the structure of nvram and MacOS, of course :)
Re: gpm & X settings for titanium
[ by the way, I'm on the list, so no need for a CC ] Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just make -f Makefile.linux r128.o in > xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel/ and then > insmod r128.o or put it where your modules are so the X server can > load it automatically. Woo! It works! glxgears sez: 1683 frames in 5.0 seconds = 336.600 FPS And now I can play tuxracer and bzflag! Neat.
Re: problem building gcc-3.0-3.0.1ds1 on powerpc
Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > powerpc libgcj packages are on ftp-master in incoming. Well, I couldn't find anything related in incoming, and http://ftp-master.debian.org/~doko was an empty directory, and ~doko/gcc gave me a 404. > > cat debian/libgcc1/DEBIAN/shlibs >> debian/shlibs.local > > cat: debian/libgcc1/DEBIAN/shlibs: No such file or directory > > make[1]: *** [stamps/08-binary-stamp-libgcc] Error 1 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/gcc/gcc-3.0-3.0.1ds1' > > make: *** [binary] Error 2 > > should be enough to prefix the line with '-' Hm...is that really the "right" solution though? Anyways, I'll try doing that and see what happens, but a gcc build takes > 5 hours on my laptop, so I'll have to report the status tomorrow...
Re: problem building gcc-3.0-3.0.1ds1 on powerpc
Sorry, I sent that to the wrong place by mistake.
Re: gpm & X settings for titanium
Peter Meilstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > DefaultDepth24 I had this same problem, and Michel Dänzer told me that it's necessary to run XFree in 16 bit depth; otherwise there's not enough video ram, IIRC.
Re: Ethernet Powerbook3400c
Pedro Alves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How do I configure ethernet settings, after debian installed? I > have a modem/ethernet card built-in in the powerbook. If I understand your question correctly, you need to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file. See also interfaces(5). If you want to use the modem, I've had good luck with wvdial. Try 'apt-get install task-dialup' if you haven't already.
Re: powerbook titanium
James Maitland Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have a 500MHz titanium with 512Mb RAM. > > > I am intending to install base from powerpc binary-1 potato, and >then upgrade to unstable. > > With the cd in the drive i booted the machine pressing 'c' whilst it > boots, all I get is a white screen and nothing happens... Just to make this explicit, hold down Command-Option-o-f to get into Open Firmware, then type: boot cd:\yaboot at the prompt. This will take you to the yaboot prompt. At that, type: debian video=ofonly Passing the "video=ofonly" option to the kernel is the critical part. This should all be in the archives, by the way.
Re: Problems with Java
Stefan Heimann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > SIGSEGV 11* segmentation violation > si_signo [11]: SIGSEGV 11* segmentation violation > si_errno [0]: Erfolg > si_code [0]: SI_USER [pid: 0, uid: 0] > stackpointer=0x7fffc2bc Are you doing anything that requires AWT, Swing, or RMI? If not, then you could give GCJ a try. It's in Debian unstable. There is also kaffe.
Re: More sound strangeness
Russell Hires <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, I upgraded to benh's 2.4.8-pre7 this morning, and now my > sound only partially works. I rsync'ed according to directions > posted in another message, and I did a "make oldconfig" to make sure > everything stayed the same. What happens is I've got the system > beep, but not the other sounds, like I can't play my CD's anymore, > and hear them...I know I had trouble with all the modules and such > before, so I followed all the various things I did before to get > sound to work and it doesn't work this time Have you tried running a mixer program? I've noticed (and I think this just happened recently on a kernel upgrade) that I need to run "gmix" in order to get sound. Perhaps the default sound level changed to "off"? By the way, I don't think the system beep is produced through the sound card.
Re: Audio on the Pismo
Pan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I did that, and disabled the standard CD audio plugin too. And I > opened the cd device node. I got all the songs on the playlist all > right. It looks like it's playing but somehow the sound is not > coming out. Have you tried running "gmix" or a similar program?
Re: root fs becomes ro after sleep!
Wilhelm Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Incidently, I was wondering the other day if I moved /var /usr and > /etc to their own partitions, is there any reason why / needs to get > mounted rw at all? You also need /dev mounted rw. Devfs is a nice way to get around this.
Re: New: installation on g4
"Martin Breidung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > booting a floppy isn't possible because g4-400pci neither have a > floppy build-in nor a controller onboard and i don't have any > external fdd's for it... You could also try netbooting. I played around with it once, and I couldn't get it to work, but you may have better luck...
Re: Bootable cdrom powerpc? (no floppy)
Kerstin Hoef-Emden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've read that some people in MacOS specific German newsgroups call > these keys "Badewanne" (bathing tub = alt key) and "Blumenkohl" > (cauliflower = apple/quadrupel loop key). Ok, you have sparked my curiosity. I can maybe see the quadruple loop being called "cauliflower"...but what does the option key have to do with bathing tubs??
Re: Handling several network locations [Was: wireless lan config]
"Edouard G. Parmelan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > up /bin/echo Work > /tmp/connect_route || true > down /bin/rm /tmp/connect_route || true I'm not sure what you're doing here, but you should use /var/tmp. These commands are run as root.
Re: boot problems on g4
crisbill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm trying to install Debian on a G4 using the current linux and > root.bin from Woody (3.07-2001-07-11). I've placed these files on my Mac > harddisk, along with yaboot 1.2.3. [...] > kernel panic: machine check Are you using the pmac root.bin? I'm guessing you snarfed the prep one or something. I don't think one boots on the other.
Re: Choosing which 2.4 kernel tree to use for OldWorld
Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd appreciate it if people would try the kernel-image-2.4.8-powerpc > packages I've uploaded. There'll be 2.4.9 shortly I expect. I know > of one problem in them (you may discover RTC support not getting > modprobed correctly, and as a result your system time may stay off > by a few hours), which I'll fix soon. Other bug reports welcome. What tree is that image from? The sleep support for my laptop is only in benh's tree AFAIK, which means other trees aren't very useful...
Re: Choosing which 2.4 kernel tree to use for OldWorld
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As of today, the sleep support is now complete in bk _2_4_devel. It > is partial in _2_4. Very cool! This is good to hear. Thanks again for your kernel work; my laptop would be dead weight without it :)
Re: New with PPC soon...
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > xfs works perfectly on powerpc, unlike reiserfs which needs patches > (only available in the alan cox series, that tree is not recommended > for powermac). you will need to partition your disk in a such a way > that you can move your filesystems around temporarily for xfs > installation. (split off /usr /var /home and /tmp and things will > be easier). In my opinion, if you have another computer on the LAN with enough disk space, the best way to convert your filesystem to XFS (or any other file system) is the following: 1) Install system normally (be sure to install xfsprogs). The only required separate partitions are /boot and /, although you can make others if you want. 2) Make a netboot and NFS-root capable kernel (this means enabling CONFIG_IP_PNP and CONFIG_ROOT_NFS). Install it. (You probably want to use kernel-package for this). 3) set up yaboot to boot that kernel. Here's the relevant portion of my /etc/yaboot.conf: image=vmlinux label=linuxnfs root=/dev/nfs append="nfsroot=192.168.5.76:/backup/space-ghost ip=192.168.5.90:192.168.5.76:192.168.5.1:255.255.255.0:space-ghost:eth0:off" read-only Read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/nfsroot.txt for an explanation of the options. 4) rsync -ave ssh --exclude /proc / [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/export/ 5) reboot using that kernel. You should now be running almost entirely off the network (except for /boot). 6) use mkfs.xfs on /dev/hdX, mount /dev/hdX /mnt/image 7) rsync -ave ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/export /mnt/image 8) reboot using your shiny new XFS filesystem
Re: Installation problem on New World G4
Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am working on installing Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r3 "Potato" - > Official powerpc Binary-1 CD on a new world G4. As far as I can > tell, I have the base system installed correctly and used mkofboot > to configure the booting properly. I am unable to get the system to > do an initial boot so I can finish the package installation. > > It begins booting, and gets as far as finding the USB keyboard and > mouse and then it just hangs. If I unplug the keyboard and mouse, > then it gets as far as: Freeing unused kernel memory: 168k init 28k > prep Weird. This seems like a kernel problem. Is it repeatable? If so, the only thing I can suggest is to try the woody boot-floppies, which might have a newer kernel...
Re: ibook2 hangs during install
Mark Hepburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've just been trying to boot my ibook2 using a set of 2.2r0 cds > (using the 'debian video=ofonly' boot arguments) and it appears to > boot fine, loads the installer; the problem is I press 'continue' > following the welcome message, then it just sits and hangs at the > 'Please wait while the installer determines the next step needed' > message. So, any luck with the woody boot-floppies? Also, you could also try potato 2.2r3.
Re: New with PPC soon...
Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am using: rsync -arHpogDtxz -e ssh ... This preserves hardlinks, > ownerships, permissions and timestamps and doesn't cross filesystem > boundaries. The latter may not work with separate partitions for > /usr and whatnot. The -a option in rsync is the same as -rlptgoD. So you've added -Htx. The -Ht options definitely look good, I'll have to remember them. But why -x? > This probably doesn't matter too much after a fresh install, but my > filesystem is 8 gigs... Well, -H will make things go more slowly. Perhaps not a big deal though. > I've had to edit /etc/mtab to make mkfs.xfs believe that it can > actually safely create the filesystem. ?? That's bizarre, /etc/mtab should have been overwritten on reboot. Ah, I think I know why this happened. I forgot to list two important steps. 4½) Before you reboot using the NFS root, you need to change your fstab on the remote computer's image to look like: 192.168.5.76:/ / nfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hdX /boot ext2 rw 0 2 # change X to your /boot partition proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 # plus any swap partitions 7½) Change the filesystem type of / from ext2 to xfs in your new /mnt/etc/fstab. Also, be sure the "options" field is just "defaults". This means you need to remove errors=remount-ro or whatever. Good luck!
Re: lazy saturday notebook comparo (long)
Bastien Nocera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Talking of which, would a libapm for ppc which supports both > /proc/apm (or proc/pmu whichever) and the use of pmud to read > battery stats be interesting for people on this list ? Sounds like a very good idea to me.
