KDE4 in experimental and kpackage
Hi Everybody, I would like to thank you for the magnificent work in packaging KDE4.2 for Debian as soon as it was released. Since then, I have tried it, tested it, liked it. Almost everything works, but not kpackage. When it's launched, it takes a while as usual seeming that it's loading the list of the packages, but after some time it gives up and nothing is listed in the packages list on the left panel. Is this happening only to me? I remember that the past versions too (4.0. and 4.1.x) gave me this problem. Please, if I'm reporting something you already know I apologize for this and I would like to be pointed to the right solution. Cheers! Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE4.2 in experimental and kpackage
Alle sabato 31 gennaio 2009, Nick Shaforostoff ha scritto: > I'm afraid KPackage is maintained no more, > and I suggested removing it from kdeadmin upstream. > > What makes KPackage UI better then the one of Adept (or anything else) for > you? kpackage is the application I was behaved to when I wanted to get a list of packages and a description of them. Synaptic is good and very similar but it's just for GNOME and it prevents the use of apt in console. Many times before I checked a package that I was interested to just using kpackage and then installing it just with apt-get at the same moment. Indeed I use apt more often than any other else package manager, but with a little help from kpackage when it was needed. Another important reason why I liked kpackage was the ability to browse the installed packages and even the single files. It was very handy to check for README's, configuration samples and so on. It was a matter of clicking on the file and having it displayed in konqueror, in kwrite or inside ark. That is why I consider it more useful than synaptic. Another feature that I liked is the ability of kpackage of displaying at a quick glance any missing file in a package. Last but not least I have translated its documentation :) and I'm sorry to see kpackage disappearing. BTW if it's supposed to remove kpackage, I agree that I should use something different like adept (I tried it a long time ago and I didn't feel a good impression from it, but now things have changed for good). Anyhow adept is still missing the features I had mentioned above. I hope to have answered to your question. Bye Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE4.2 in experimental and kpackage
Alle sabato 31 gennaio 2009, Nick Shaforostoff ha scritto: > On Saturday 31 January 2009 13:04:21 Valerio Passini wrote: > > Alle sabato 31 gennaio 2009, Nick Shaforostoff ha scritto: > > > I'm afraid KPackage is maintained no more, > > > and I suggested removing it from kdeadmin upstream. > > > > > > What makes KPackage UI better then the one of Adept (or anything else) > > > for you? > > > > kpackage is the application I was behaved to when I wanted to get a list > > of packages and a description of them. > > apt-cache search > I have it aliased to be 'as ' under root. > alias as='apt-cache search' > > plus apt-cache show > > > Another important reason why I liked kpackage was the ability to browse > > the installed packages and even the single files. > > list packages: dpkg -l | grep II > list files: dpkg -L > also see apt-file. > > > It was very handy to check for README's, configuration samples and so on. > > It was a matter of clicking on the file and having it displayed in > > konqueror, in kwrite or inside ark. That is why I consider it more useful > > than synaptic. Another feature that I liked is the ability of kpackage of > > displaying at a quick glance any missing file in a package. > > there is a command line expression somewhere for that. googlable. > > > Last but not least I have > > translated its documentation :) and I'm sorry to see kpackage > > disappearing. > > Well, I'm translator myself. A lot of docs bevome obsote with KDE4. > > > BTW if it's supposed to remove kpackage, I agree that I should use > > something different like adept (I tried it a long time ago and I didn't > > feel a good impression from it, but now things have changed for good). > > Anyhow adept is still missing the features I had mentioned above. I hope > > to have answered to your question. > > Yes. thank you for the desired features list. I agree almost on everything except the fact I would like to use GUI because it's simpler. I had to learn apt because was a basic tool in Debian, but I dream the day when I could forget about it. Anyhow, adept too is no more maintained, you can read why here: http://web.mornfall.net/adept.html Are you involved in some way with a development of a package manager for Debian? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Trouble installing kde 4.2 from experimental due to dependency problems
Alle sabato 07 febbraio 2009, Daniel Silva ha scritto: > Hi guys, can anyone help me? > I'm trying to install kde 4.2. My sources.list only contains: > > > "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main > deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental main > deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental main" > > > And then I do: > > apt-get -t experimental install kde4 > > And I get: > > "A ler as listas de pacotes... Pronto > A construir árvore de dependências > A ler a informação de estado... Pronto > Alguns pacotes não puderam ser instalados. Isso pode significar que > você solicitou uma situação impossível ou se você está a usar a > distribuição unstable em que alguns pacotes pedidos ainda não foram > criados ou foram movidos do Incoming. > A seguinte informação pode ajudar a resolver a situação: > > Os pacotes a seguir têm dependências não satisfeitas: > kde4: Depende: kde4-minimal (>= 1) mas não vai ser instalado > Depende: kdeadmin (>= 4:4.2.0) mas 4:3.5.9-2 está para ser > instalado Depende: kdeartwork (>= 4:4.2.0) mas não vai ser instalado > Depende: kdegraphics (>= 4:4.2.0) mas não vai ser instalado Depende: kdeedu > (>= 4:4.2.0) mas não vai ser instalado > Depende: kdegames (>= 4:4.2.0) mas 4:3.5.10-1 está para ser > instalado Depende: kdemultimedia (>= 4:4.2.0) mas não vai ser instalado > Depende: kdenetwork (>= 4:4.2.0) mas não vai ser instalado Depende: > kdeutils (>= 4:4.2.0) mas 4:3.5.9-2 está para ser instalado Depende: kdepim > (>= 4:4.2.0) mas não vai ser instalado > Depende: kdeplasma-addons (>= 4:4.2.0) mas não vai ser instalado > Recomenda: kdesdk (>= 4:4.2.0) mas não vai ser instalado > Recomenda: kdetoys (>= 4:4.2.0) mas não vai ser instalado > Recomenda: kdewebdev (>= 4:4.2.0) mas não vai ser instalado > E: Pacotes estragados" > > It's in portuguese, it says that kde4 depends on kde4-minimal but that it > won't be installed and that it depends on kdeadmin, version >= 4.4.2.0 but > it's set to install 4:3.5.9-2, and so on.ftp.br.debian.org > > I don't get why this happens. Does anyone have a clue? > Thanks > Daniel Hi Daniel, As a premise I would like to point you that you don't need to use USA Debian servers unless they are the nearest servers to you. If you are from Brazil, probably these fit better your needs(from http://www.debian.org/mirror/list): ftp.br.debian.org debian.las.ic.unicamp.br Regarding installing KDE4, have you followed this guide? http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/experimental.html [cit:] >APT will not install packages from experimental unless specifically requested. >To install a package from experimental, run the command: >aptitude -t experimental install package1 package2 package3... Bye -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
[KDE4.2] Google gadgets and a silly question
Hi All, Has someone been able to make work the gadgets that you can download directly from google? I have just played a little with them but without any success. Another question is how do I uninstall downloaded application? They generally appear in the plasma menu, but I can't found a way to remove them. Last silly unrelated question: there is one visual effect inherited by KDE 3 that I don't like. This effect shows a giant icon of the running application when you move the mouse over the bar on the bottom of the screen (I believe it is called "plasma panel"). In the old KDE was easy to modify this effect, is it possible to do the same with KDE4.2? Thank you Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [KDE4.2] Google gadgets and a silly question
Alle domenica 08 febbraio 2009, Valerio Passini ha scritto: > Hi All, > > Has someone been able to make work the gadgets that you can download > directly from google? I have just played a little with them but without > any success. Another question is how do I uninstall downloaded application? > They generally appear in the plasma menu, but I can't found a way to remove > them. > Last silly unrelated question: there is one visual effect inherited by KDE > 3 that I don't like. This effect shows a giant icon of the running > application when you move the mouse over the bar on the bottom of the > screen (I believe it is called "plasma panel"). In the old KDE was easy to > modify this effect, is it possible to do the same with KDE4.2? Thank you > > Valerio I have found that it's possible to uninstall applications removing the right files in .kde4/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids and .kde4/share/kde4/services I have also trashed this file: .kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc, but I'm not completely sure if it's necessary. Regarding the last question, it's possible to gain access to the right option right clicking the mouse over the "Task manager" bar. It's more intuitive if you are new to KDE, but if you are an old user... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Problem powerdevil kde 4.2
Alle Tuesday 10 February 2009, Ivan Grimaldi ha scritto: > I have a problem with powerdevil on kde 4.2, when I suspend to ram the > computer screen does not turn on. Someone has a solution? Sorry, it's unclear what you mean. Do you want the screen to stay turned on when the system is suspended? Consider that it can be unrelated to powerdevil can you try other ways to suspend and see if they works? I've just tried on my laptop and seen that s2ram doesn't work properly, on resume screen is black and keyboard is unresponsive... Later I will try something else. Bye -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Problem powerdevil kde 4.2
Alle Tuesday 10 February 2009, Valerio Passini ha scritto: > Sorry, it's unclear what you mean. Do you want the screen to stay turned on > when the system is suspended? Consider that it can be unrelated to > powerdevil can you try other ways to suspend and see if they works? I've > just tried on my laptop and seen that s2ram doesn't work properly, on > resume screen is black and keyboard is unresponsive... Later I will try > something else. Bye Do you have an nVidia video card? I have played a little with s2ram without any success to finally discover that it can be an issue related to some nvidia drivers (not all of them). Anyway I don't think this is bug is related to powerdevil. At least not in my laptop. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Problem powerdevil kde 4.2
Alle Wednesday 11 February 2009, Ivan Grimaldi ha scritto: > yes i have Nvidia card (Nvidia geforce 8800m), i have read there is a > problem with a DPMS and powerdevil...have you a solution?because it's a > problem when a pc suspend > > Ivan From what I have read on nv forum, it depends on the driver you are using. Some versions before 180.22 seem to be fine, but they are really slow with KDE4.2 (probably you must disable all the effects to use it), the next version that is still in beta should work again. If you want to try this beta version you should go here: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122606 Otherwise wait that the next release hits experimental (generally once every month). This can't be really ascribed to KDE or Linux developers... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
KDE4.2 and keyboard shortcuts
Hi All, I have configured several keyboard shortcuts bot none is actually working, even the defined from default Volume up and Volume Down with OSD. Is anybody else experiencing the same or there is someone with a solution?
Re: KDE4.2 and keyboard shortcuts
Alle giovedì 19 febbraio 2009, Andreas Jacob ha scritto:
> On Wednesday 18 February 2009 20:01:57 Valerio Passini wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have configured several keyboard shortcuts bot none is actually
> > working, even the defined from default Volume up and Volume Down with
> > OSD. Is anybody else experiencing the same or there is someone with a
> > solution?
>
> Yes, i run into the same problem. So let me sum up what I've tried so far:
>
> starting position:
> - kde 4.2 from debian experimental branch
> - logitech cordless comfort duo keyboard with multimedia keys
>
> problem:
> - assigned global shortcuts are not doing there way to the configured
> application
>
> diagnostic
>
> * to exclude possible sources of trouble I created a new user with a fresh
> user profile
> * also I switched the language of this new user to us-en, to exclude
> translation issues
> * in these fresh profile the multimedia keys are not working
> * so I activated the keyboard layout, an initialized it to "Logitech
> Cordless Desktop iTouch", which I used hundred times before ("setxkbmap
> -model logicd_it -layout de -variant nodeadkeys")
> * now the multimedia keys are recognized by kde 4.2, which means, when
> configuring a new custom shortcut under "global keyboard shortcuts" in
> "system settings" the multimedia keys can assigned
> * to ensure there is no X problem i run xev, which showed me the normal key
> names like XF86AudioRaiseVolume, XF86AudioLowerVolume, XF86AudioMute ...
> and so on
> * under kde these keys seems to get mapped to "Volume Down", "Volume Up",
> "Volume Mute" .. and so on
> * when assigning these multimedia keys as a local shortcut, all works well
> - so i think it can't be a problem of keyboard mapping
> * when assigning other global shortcuts (e.g. ctrl+alt+pgup to kmix volume
> up) - all is fine
> * trying to assign the multimedia keys to other programs then kmix result
> in the same behavior - the keystroke didn't find the way to the application
> (straced checked)
> * I'm still using the "legacy" ;-) amarok 1.4.10 under 4.2. The mysterious
> thing: I can assign the multimedia keys to amaroks global shortcuts. And
> it's doing fine. The only difference is, that the shortcut dialog
> recognizes these keys with their well known X-names like XF86AudioMute and
> so on.
>
>
> That's all i could find out. Actual I've no further ideas what or which
> config- file to check, may be as a lack of knowledge how keystrokes are
> finding there way through the kde message system.
>
> I also posted the above to the kde forum under
> http://forum.kde.org/multimedia-keys-stoped-responding-kde-4-2rc-
> t-26877-2.html. The result was: maybe a bug in khotkeys.
>
> Cheers Andreas
Hi Andreas,
I appreciate your suggestion and now I want to stress some points.
First I installed KDE4.2 as soon as it as been available by the end of January
and in the beginning
the shortcuts worked. Suddenly in the past week the shortcuts stopped working
and nothing was
possible to restore them. This is strange because there is nothing new in the
Debian KDE4.2 packages
since its release. Am I wrong?
Second I have decided to try what you already tried, deleting the config files
inside
.kde4/share/config kglobalshortcutsrc kmix kmixctrlrc and surprise,
kglobalshortcutsrc is deleted
upon logout automatically. So I don't know how it is possible to reset to
default khotkeys behavior
and start again.
Bye
VP
Re: KDE4.2 and keyboard shortcuts
Alle giovedì 19 febbraio 2009, Andreas Jacob ha scritto: > I also installed the release candidate early in the mid/end of January, > meaning i upgraded from 4.1 to the pre release. But my global shortcuts, > assigned to an multimedia key, stopped working immediately. > The mysterious thing for me, is that my amarok 1.4.10 uses the multimedia > keys very well, when assigned as global shortcut. > IIRC, kde4 switched from using dcop to dbus. I would expect, that amarok > 1.4.10 uses only dcop. So when the global amarok 1.4.10 shortcuts are still > working in 4.2, there must be a compatibility layer or something. Maybe > that this compatibility layer is incompatible with 4.2s dbus? ;-) > > Cheers Andreas Suddenly everything is back again... :D It has been corrected by some upgrade today.
Re: nepomuk/strigi - searching on tags returns nothing
Alle mercoledì 25 febbraio 2009, Bernard Gray ha scritto: > Hi All, > I'm using current kde 4.2.0 packages from experimental - but I've not > yet worked out how to get the desktop search working on tags. > > I have "Nepomuk Semantic Desktop" enabled in systemsettings, however I > can't enable the strigi desktop file indexer (I presume) because of > the "Strigi service not running" message underneath the checkbox. > > I've tried starting the service manually with the `strigidaemon` > command, and I've done a manual index using the `strigiclient` tool. > The systemsettings dialog still claims the service isn't running > though, and searches on tags I know exist (and nepomuk knows exist > because I get a prompt for them in krunner) still return nothing. > > Does anyone have this working? Can you point me in the right direction > for a resolution? > > Thanks, > Bernie It's a well known problem and there is already a bugreport that you can read here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=502851 Hope this helps you to understand why strigi can't work at least for now. Valerio
Re: nepomuk/strigi - searching on tags returns nothing
Alle giovedì 26 febbraio 2009, Dominik Schulz ha scritto: > Am Donnerstag 26 Februar 2009 01:07:35 schrieb Bernard Gray: > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Valerio Passini > > > > wrote: > > > Alle mercoledì 25 febbraio 2009, Bernard Gray ha scritto: > > >> Does anyone have this working? Can you point me in the right direction > > >> for a resolution? > > > > > > It's a well known problem and there is already a bugreport that you can > > > read here: > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=502851 > > > Hope this helps you to understand why strigi can't work at least for > > > now. Valerio > > > > That's the answer I was after - thanks a lot :) > > I got it working by compiling kdesupport myself. Not a very clean solution, > but it seems to be working so far. See [1] or [2] for more information. > > [1] - http://blog.gauner.org/2009/02/26/kde42-and-nepomuk-on-debian/ > [2] - > http://www.simplylinux.ch/strigi-nepomuk-sporano-in-kubuntu-810-desktop- > suche > -- > Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards > Dominik I appreciate your how-to, but I would really discourage this behaviour since you get a mixed environment that it's difficult to track if you are not an experienced user and will potentially get you more problems than it solves. There are at least two good options for you before trying this one: 1) wait that someone skilled enough packages sesame2 for Debian 2) wait that redland is improved. From the comments I've read so far redland should be better than sesame because it's written in C++ instead of requiring a JVM to run on your system. It has bad algorithms inside at the moment, that's why it is so slow in indexing and have been disabled as default in Debian. On the long term, redland will be better than sesame2, so if you don't need these features NOW, be patient. Otherwise use a distribution that requires to be compiled and you can manage totally by yourself. Valerio
Re: Bluetooth
Alle sabato 28 febbraio 2009, DVW ha scritto: > Anyway it's a big handicap for Linux to be a real alternative to Windows > this distro "slavery". If just there were a really working aptitude-like > app which allowed to install form sources and resolve dependencies and > updates... Daydreaming, I suppose, but it would be nice. > > Cheers > > > El Viernes, 27 de Febrero de 2009 12:20:42 Andreas v. Heydwolff escribió: It does exist: it's called Gentoo. But be aware of the fact that you must compile and set up everything by yourself. Bye Valerio
Re: Debian 5 with kde 3.5 (basic install)
Alle domenica 01 marzo 2009, ddkconsulta...@gmail.com ha scritto: > Sorry but I am just a newbie, so forgive me in advance :-) > > I just want to get my great Debian 5 with KDE start ups with numlock > on and the numlock led on. > > I googled a lot but nu solution found. > > KDE numlock on setting puts it on but not the led! > > Leds=+num is being switch off when KDE starts up Hi, I've checked on an old PC of mine with KDE3.5 and found the same problem. You should check in debian's bugtracking system if the bug is already known and there is any fix/patch. Otherwise, file a bug to Debian. You are stepping into this wonderful world :) Bye
Re: Debian 5 with kde 3.5 (basic install)
Alle domenica 01 marzo 2009, ddkconsulta...@gmail.com ha scritto: > How can you check the bug with Debian? That's easy: open a browser to http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ Then you must fill the form. This approach is useful for just navigate into bugs. If you want to file a bugreport you should use either reportbug or reportbug-ng. # apt-get install reportbug-ng reportbug-ng has a nice graphic interface suitable for non experienced user. Here there is a guide on how-to file a bugreport. In other words: how to produce a useful bugreport with all the information in the right place: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting Don't worry because both reportbug and reportbug-ng fill automatically the bugreport with all the basic information. You must only set a title and describe what's happening and in which circumstances. If you are able to provide a patch or a fix, you are welcome. ;) And remember: google is your friend. In other words: even if you are new to Linux and/or Debian, search always by yourself a solution at the best of your possibilities and only when you have not found one, ask for help. Cheers Valerio
Re: Debian 5 with kde 3.5 (basic install)
Alle lunedì 02 marzo 2009, Lisi Reisz ha scritto: > On Sunday 01 March 2009 23:29:36 Valerio Passini wrote: > > And remember: google is your friend. In other words: even if you are new > > to Linux and/or Debian, search always by yourself a solution at the best > > of your possibilities and only when you have not found one, ask for help. > > In her/his original posting requesting help, (s)he said that (s)he > had "googled a lot", but been unable to find the answer. > > Lisi Of course I was referring about the "how-to file a bug report" as clearly quoted in my previous message and you can't say that there is not a wealth of information about sending bug reports to Debian in Internet :). Bye Valerio
Re: About knetload and kcpuload
Alle mercoledì 04 marzo 2009, Patrice Pillot ha scritto: > Hi, > > Those two apps were recently removed from testing since they were not > present anymore in sid. > > I suppose this may be related to the fact that they don't seem to be > maintain well upstream and moreover, since KDE4 is on its way to squeeze... > > Yet those applets are very useful. Are there any KDE4 successors for them ? > > TIA, > > phep Hi, There are a lot of plasma applets to do the same stuff. They have a different layout but they provide the same information. Use the cashew to add them to your desktop. Bye Valerio
Re: About knetload and kcpuload
> Apart from one thing -- knetload & kcpuload when clicked on, produced a > text window with the actual data rate or cpu usage. The plasma widgets > I've tried don't do that and since the network one autoscales it's hard > to use for more than "is anything happening or not" I agree with you, but I premised that they are different aka they are not a full replacement. Probably the next applets will be more complex and sport more features. It's a matter of fact that KDE4 is not feature complete and as mature as it is KDE3.5, but this is going to change for good in the next months. Until then you must live with some missing features, small problems, etc. When you really miss something you can install/pin kde3.5 from stable. Valerio
Re: impossible upgrade KE3 to KDE4
Alle domenica 08 marzo 2009, Manolete, ese artista... ha scritto: > Hola. > > First. Are you sure you want to install ALL KDE4, with all the games, the > educational programs, etc, etc? If not you can try the package > "kde4-minimal" and later install the programs you want individually. > > Second. I would try the fast and easy way instead of wasting time and > mental health investigating all those problems you mention. I would do a > basic install of the testing branch from > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer; you don't have even to waste > a CD, there are lots of webpages with easy instructions to install from an > USB memory, like this one: > http://www.esdebian.org/foro/26476/howto-instalar-debian-usb. Once > installed the system I'd just install Xorg, my graphic card's drivers and > then add unstable and experimental repos to my sources.list and install the > desktop. If you don't want to be on an hybrid Testing/Unstable/Experimental > system you can update to Sid, clear, but I'd try this easy way first and > verify everything works fine before. > > For KDE4 updates from experimental remember to follow the instructions here > http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/experimental.html > > Saludos. > > El Domingo, 8 de Marzo de 2009 15:03:52 Guan de dio escribió: > > Hi everybody, > > > > Today is my 3rd day try to install Debian sid with KDE4 in a PC. > > > > I have been using a Install CD of etch. After installing I upgrade > > the distro to sid and enable the experimental repositories. I try to > > install kde4 using aptitude install -t experimental kde4. > > > > I'm surprise that after upgrade to sid, in the booting I can see a > > lot of warning messages about /etc/modprobe.d/ has not a conf file > > ¿? > > > > The kde4 instalation fails due to the dependecens. The message said > > that if the new packages will be installed some package will be broken, > > package as rar, unrar, ... > > > > Somes tips please? > > > > Thanks, > > GUAN Don't fallow the way of installing and removing software as it's usual in Windows when you don't know what to do. Etch it's a bit old but if you have been successful in installing it on you PC, then it's just a matter of dist-upgrade to arrive to Sid. Beware of the warnings, of course. :) Don't worry about /etc/modprobe.d/ , everybody is having the same. New version of module-init- tools is sending this warnings to DEVELOPERS, so don't change anything, just live with it until the developers take action. Actually it means nothing for your system. To install KDE4 see these instructions: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/experimental.html Remember, to force installation of experimental packages you must tell it to apt/aptitude with apt- get -t experimental install kde blah, blah, blah Ciao Valerio
Re: impossible upgrade KE3 to KDE4
> After making the dist-upgrade, currently I can see severl warning about > /etc/modprobe.d/ blacklist.XXX has not config file, .. etc etc ... > > Are there something broken in the branch? As I told you before, don't worry for now: it's normal and it depends on module-init-tools. It has nothing to do with KDE. > After that I enable the experimental branch and in a console try to make > > aptitude install -t experimental kde4-minimal > > aptitude shows me a lot of broken dependence that I can't to resolve recursively enter apt-get/aptitude install -t experimental kdebase kdegraphics kde Recursively means until you find a package that can be installed and then you go on installing other packages. > I try to with a CD install Debian from experimental branch. I download this > CD yesterday, so it is in the last version. This CD has got KDE3.5, when I > try to upgrade to KDE4 I have the same broken dependence. CD's from experimental never worked for me. This is for sure a bad move until you really want to solve *a lot of BUGS* that are really common in experimental. Experimental is experimental :), let's put apart KDE 4.2 that must be migrated to Unstable soon and it stands still in experimental for other reasons, almost all the other packages are DANGEROUS. DON'T USE EXPERIMENTAL. :) Be calm, take a deep breath and proceed :) Valerio
Re: Black Screen Login
Alle giovedì 12 marzo 2009, Guan de dio ha scritto: > Hi there, > > After making a distr-upgrate from Debian Lenny with KDE3.5 to Debian > 5.0 SID I always have a black screen for logging. I need to logging using > the console mode. > >I remember that listers told something similar issue when the > upgrate KDE4.1.3 to KDE4.2, and for fixing the problem only it is necessary > to install a package but I don't remember the name. > > > Best Regards, > GUAN Do you mean kdm?
Re: KDE 4.2 in unstable _NOT YET__
Alle venerdì 13 marzo 2009, Ana Guerrero ha scritto: > You will see a program named kaboom > doing this in the future (again, no yet!) Hi, First of all many thanks for all your efforts that you put in packaging and in the mailing list. Where can I find the homepage/project page of kaboom? I'm searching for more information. Thank you again Valerio
Re: Linux-kbuild
Alle venerdì 13 marzo 2009, Guan de dio ha scritto: > Hello there, > > It's not a KDE question, it is more general, I expect that > someone can to help me. > > After a several fights with Debien, I have now installed KDE4.2.1 > using a Debian sid branch :) > > The screen it is not in optimal resolution, so I want to install > de nvida driver because I currently use the default card video driver. > Looking for the Linux Header that I need to recompile the kernel, > I saw that the unique headers in the repositories are for 2.6.28 > version, and muy Kernel is 2.6.26 > > I went to install the new Linux-image when the synaptic gave me > an error dependence in the package linux-kbuild-2.6.28 > I'm searching it but It is not in sid repositories. > > Do I need to use the experimental branch for update the kernel ? > > Thanks in advance, > GUAN It would be a nice chance for you to learn how to recompile your kernel in the Debian way :) isn't difficult. You will have always the most up to date kernel and headers. Cheers Valerio
Re: KDE 4.2 in unstable _NOT YET__
Alle venerdì 13 marzo 2009, Ana Guerrero ha scritto: > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:37:21PM +0100, Valerio Passini wrote: > > Alle venerdì 13 marzo 2009, Ana Guerrero ha scritto: > > > You will see a program named kaboom > > > doing this in the future (again, no yet!) > > > > Hi, > > > > First of all many thanks for all your efforts that you put in packaging > > and in the mailing list. Where can I find the homepage/project page of > > kaboom? I'm searching for more information. Thank you again > > No website, just a git repo: > > http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-kde/kaboom.git;a=summary > > DO NOT use try this if you do not know what you are doing, you can LOSE > DATA. > > > Ana Thank you, since I switched to KDE4.2 from KDE3.5.10 I wanted to know if I have been able to move all the settings. So far I have moved my accounts, vcards, notes and so on, but I made it "by hand". I am just curious to know what I missed and I really don't dare to use experimental/alpha software on my HOME account. Ciao Valerio
Re: Linux-kbuild
Alle sabato 14 marzo 2009, Herbert S. ha scritto: > After doing a) you can run the NVIDIA-installation program (Download it > from the NVIDIA Homepage (the ONE that I use is: > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82-pkg1.run ) > > Herbert I don't agree on this point. Why do you mess your system when packages are available? If you want nvidia drivers 180.29, you only need to install nvidia-kernel-source and nvidia-glx from the experimental repository (the latest drivers are always there). If you have a kernel which makes you happy, keep it along with a kernel compiled by yourself. You will have an higher degree of freedom doing that. i.e. if you buy a new piece of hardware you could need to compile a recent kernel that has the right module for it, without waiting for a new kernel package from Debian.It's up to you. Bye Valerio
Re: KDE 4.2 in unstable _NOT YET__
> there's plasma-widget-networkmanagement package. > At the moment, it's in NEW queue: > http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn926 >306-1.html > > I use it and it works fine. > > cheers, > > Fathi Lucky one, when will we be able to install/try it? Ciao Valerio
Re: KDE 4.2 in unstable _NOT YET__
> However, you can clone the git repository (you can find the url in the > above html page) and build the package yourself (dpkg-buildpackage > -rfakeroot -uc -b should work). > > ciao, > Stefano > > > Ciao > > > > Valerio Thank you for the hint, but it's non-trivial to retrieve source code from the repository using git and build a .deb package from the source. Probably for me it's better to wait and continue using network-manager-kde. Ciao Valerio
New plasma-widgets
Dear Developers, I'm happy to have finally found plasma-widget-networkmanagement/weather widgets in experimental but I have some problems with them. The weather applet is very similar to the other one bundled at the moment with KDE4.2 that allows only to choice weather services among a subset of countries belonging to the Commonwealth. Since I live outside these Countries (actually in Italy) this renders useless such applets to me like to many other people. I have compiled by myself and tried another of this applets from kde-look it's called yAWP licensed under GPL: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/yaWP+(Yet+Another+Weather+Plasmoid)?content=94106 It has a nice way to configure and it's able to be set just entering the name of my really small city. May I propose this weather applet for future packaging instead of the two or at least as a real alternative to the old one? About the networkmanagement applet, I'm completely unable to make it work. It an not connect to hidden AP, like mine, and even if I change the AP options to broadcast the ESSID, since I have a WEP128 passphrase encoded network I can't still connect. What happens is that the applet changes the passphrase from the original 128bit to 40bit. Why? I have tried to put directly the hexadecimal translated password in the proper configuration field but unsuccessfully. Does anyone know if it's actually possible to use this applet on WEP128 encrypted networks and give me hints? Thank you Valerio
Re: New plasma-widgets
Alle venerdì 27 marzo 2009, Modestas Vainius ha scritto: > Select source "BBC Weather", enter the city below and press "Search". It > should not be a big problem to get forecast for Europe countries from that > source. However, current situation wrt weather plasmoids is ridiculous though. Thank you, I have just discovered that if you put Roma in the search field, they give you Roma in Queensland, while if you ask for Rome, then they give you Rome, Italy... Anyhow I don't live in Rome/Roma but in a smaller centre and to find a working city name, considering this mess between English names and Italian names, near enough is not that easy using this Weather Applet. The other I mentioned is straight forward at least for me. >A standard procedure is to file RFP. I'm going to use this standard procedure, my intention was just asking it in an informal way before any other step. Cheers
Re: New plasma-widgets
Alle venerdì 27 marzo 2009, Mark Purcell ha scritto: > I guess some more localised plugins for local weather would be a sensible way > forward. Following the suggestion from Modestas, I have filed an RFP to Debian BTS, but I have decided to promote the packaging of a different plasmoid for weather forecast that can use much more weather services than those already packaged and the one proposed by me at the beginning: its name is CWP and his already one of the preferred plasmoids among kde-look users. http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Customizable+Weather+Plasmoid+(CWP)?content=98925 As usual, there is a trade off between simplicity and possibility to configure application: this one is a bit more complicated than yaWP. I don't know if there is a way to push for packaging an application on Debian, in particular this plasmoid is not at all a priority, anyhow if you like it and want to follow its packaging, here there is the link to the "bug": http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=521464 For those who can't wait, it's simple to compile it following the instructions inside the tarball.
Re: [ANN] KDE 4.2 moving to unstable *this* week
Alle Monday 06 April 2009, Modestas Vainius ha scritto: > Hello, > > On 2009 m. April 6 d., Monday 14:57:47 Ana Guerrero wrote: > > Well, it gets annoying so much people asking. Not only in the mailing list, > > also private emails, IRC, etc. When we have something to tell, we do. If we > > were able to say Saturday 15th at 15:00 it will be ready, we would do. But > > that is impossible. > Couldn't agree more. If some info is omitted, it is usually omitted for a > good > reason. And asking the same question repeatedly won't make things move > forward > faster, but slower. > I understand all you are saying, but sometime people get too excited in waiting for something, like it is a new gift. I think that most part of the emails, although a bit annoying, is about this excitement and not a way to push you who are doing a great, difficult and voluntary job (sometime we forget). I think you have the praises of our community, for sure mine. Cheers Valerio
Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition
Dear Developers, Lancelot is a nice replacement for kickoff and bears several features among of which there is the possibility to access disk partitions and devices connected to the computer. I have a dual boot machine with a couple of NTFS partitions that I don't need to access normally, thus they are not listed inside /etc/fstab, but Lancelot is able to detect and list them under Computer. With default settings Lancelot launches everything just hovering the mouse on the icons, thus when I move the mouse over these partitions, Lancelot totally locks. Dolphin shows me a message if I try to mount partitions that I'm not allowed to, but it doesn't lock. There is anything I can do to: 1) avoid that Lancelot even sees the partitions or 2) Lancelot doesn't lock itself if I "click" on not allowed partitions. Should I file a bugreport to Debian? Thank you Valerio
Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition
Thank you, Manolete > Are you sure it's a distro especific problem, it only happens in Debian? > Perhaps is a Lancelot one. > I can't be sure since I use only Debian > I'd recommend you to search, and eventually post, in http://forum.kde.org I going to search, but this way is going to increase the number of forums/mailing lists I'm fallowing :)
Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition
Alle Wednesday 08 April 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ha scritto: > In <200904090014.01454.modes...@vainius.eu>, Modestas Vainius wrote: > >On 2009 m. April 8 d., Wednesday 23:59:10 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >> Then file the bug at the Debian BTS and the maintainer will forward it > >> to upstream if necessary. (Of course, only to this is you are willing > >> to work with the maintainer to correctly resolve the bug.) > > > >WRONG thinking. File a bug to Debian BTS only if you believe (and can > > justify it) that it is Debian-specific. I'm not talking about this bug in > > particular, but in general. DO NOT report upstream bugs to Debian BTS > > (with the exception of grave or more serious). > > No, you are wrong. A bug in a package (caused by upstream or not) is a bug > in Debian. Bugs in Debian are, according to "The Debian GNU/Linux FAQ" (an > official document prepared by Debian) to be filed on the Debian BTS. > According to the instructions at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting > (again, an official document prepared by Debian) if you file a bug on the > BTS you should not file the bug upstream, but let the maintainer do it. > > IMO: > Even if you *know* the bug is a problem caused by upstream, you should > probably file it on the Debian BTS if it affects Debian. This way it will > show up in automated reports for the status of bugs in > stable/testing/unstable and persons watching the package through PTS will be > notified. Bug reports are actually one of the main metrics used to > determine when a new version of Debian is ready to be released -- if there > are bugs that affect Debian but are only reported upstream, that metric > reduces in value. > > Yes, you shouldn't copy upstream reports into the Debian BTS, but if you are > running Debian and encounter the bug it should be on the Debian BTS (even if > it needs to be somewhere else, too.) Thank you for clarifying this point. I agree with your official reasons, and I think to users too. Users simply install a package and then must figure out to whom they should file a bug when they have found one. This is going to make them crazy because they are going to have many representatives (upstream authors) instead of just one (Debian). Filing a bug upstream is discouraging since you must search for the project homepage, find other similar bug reports, and thereafter the authors could say that the bug is Debian related (it may happen). Then you are back to the starting point: DBTS. Users are the wrong way to have a fruitful communication with authors and if they solve a problem, they tend to NOT share the solution with everybody (not because they are selfish, but because they are not developers and cannot do any commit). These are my concerns.
Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition
Alle Thursday 09 April 2009, Alejandro Exojo ha scritto: > El Jueves, 9 de Abril de 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. escribió: > > Can you think how fast a RFS on the debian-mentors list would > > be denied if accompanied by "I won't have time to deal with bugs, please > > file them all upstream."? > > I maintained two KDE-related packages in Debian, and of course I dealt with > the bugs I received. But if I alone had to deal with the huge number of > reports that a popular KDE module receives, I could simply not do it. Of > course, I could handle the Debian specific problems, or one user from time to > time who did a tiny mistake reporting it on Debian's BTS. > > But not all the users of the package reporting it _on purpose_ as a Debian > bug. It would be nice if I could, though, but I don't think that almost > anyone could do that on their free time. > > > I get my OS from one source, the Debian repositories (and initially the > > Debian cdimage ftp server). I should only need to provide feedback to one > > source: Debian. > > Come on: nobody reports to their ISP the problems of 3rd party websites. And > they don't ask the shop were the bought a Windows box a problem they had with > the software. > > > Maintainers are ultimately responsible for what I receive; > > *NOT* upstream. If you don't have enough time to *maintain* the package, > > don't even bother packaging it. > > You just maintain the package, that is, the work you do, and the software you > write, not the rest. > > -- > Alex (a.k.a. suy) | GPG ID 0x0B8B0BC2 > http://barnacity.net/ | http://disperso.net > > Never thought to start a topic like that... Anyhow, premised that none con be forced to do anything in free software, it's clear that from developers to users we are working altogether to make things better contributing in different ways and to different extents. Discussion has moved around the two poles: on a side there are rules, on the other, practical behaviors. Given that you can demonstrate everything you want by paradoxes like: if all users start filing bugs belonging to upstream to DBTS, blah blah or if you don't do a perfect work, then quit, blah blah. Luckily, bugs are not infinite, users are not brainless (almost), but sorely, developers are too few. Now we must check reality and see if someone can join you in developing and users can be so accurate (at least trained) to understand that a bug belongs to upstream. Boyd has made an harsh comment, but very likely IMHO, without meaning to offend anybody here: taking it personally is beyond what he meant. From my good human experience with Computer Scientists, I can say that harsh comments it's a lifestyle for them, a kind of feature. Generally you don't mind this. Now, please let's find the way to work in common. Valerio
Re: components not working after upgrade to KDE 422 (and move to .kde)
Alle Thursday 09 April 2009, hai scritto: > Hello > > I'm using KDE 4 since the beginning (on Sid with experimental packages). > Yesterday I've upgraded to KDE 422 and migrate my .kde4 to .kde > Some hardware related things are not working anymore since the upgrade > (I'm using a laptop): > - phonon says that the sound card has been removed > - the network-manager applet put the wifi controler on off and thus > doesn't access wifi networks, it also crash the whole plasma desktop when > I try to change the number of wifi networks displayed. > - the battery monitor plasma applet doesn't detect the battery any more > - powerdevil can't restore the display after suspend to ram. > > I've checked with Fedora 10 that all theses components are still working > normaly. > > I've upgraded several other packages at the same time I've upgraded KDE, > so may be this is not KDE related, but browsing the list of packages I > can't found any related one, except may be acpid. > So, before investigate and make some bug reports, I wonder if this is KDE > known problems ? > > thanks > xavier > Hi, I'm just guessing, but yesterday I had a problem with crucial packages, they remained un-configured because of splashy. If you have splashy my suggestion is to remove it, see this bug for more infos: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=523187 I have got all the kind of strange behaviors with wi-fi, battery and so on until I removed it. My advise is not to use plasma-widget-networkmanagement since it is still in hard developing, come back to knetworkmanager or nm-applet. Hope this helps Valerio
Re: When to report bugs upstream [was Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition]
Alle Monday 13 April 2009, Mark Purcell ha scritto: > On Saturday 11 April 2009 19:21:11 Arthur Marsh wrote: > > > upstream. Takes me about 3-6 minutes per bug. Because that is what > > > Debian is about. Lots of people, like you, doing a little bit of work > > > when they have some spare time. > [...] > > > So with your next spare 3 minutes, look at the BTS, check if a bug is > > > still relevant, forward it upstream, and mark it as forwarded in the BTS. > > > > > > Mark > > > > If you can show me how to forward a bug upstream in 3 minutes, I'd be > > more than willing to do so (-:. > > Started Mon Apr 13 20:20:49 EST 2009 > > apt-get install > apt-get install plasma-widget-lancelot > > Add widget. > > Right click lancelot - about > Howto report bugs click http://bugs.kde.org > Mon Apr 13 20:23:43 EST 2009 > > Click Report New Bug > Select Debian Unstable & KDE 4.2.2 > Copy and paste from original email from this thread. > Bug filed: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189520 > Mon Apr 13 20:26:59 EST 2009 > > six minutes. > > Lets see what upstream do with it now ;-) > > Mark Hehe, I was discussing with the author about this bug some day ago, but it's good that now he has an official request. What I mean is that I have understood the whole point of reporting bugs belonging to upstream directly with Authors. For those who may concern, in lancelot Author's opinion, this bug belongs to kdelibs. Valerio
Re: Upgrading to KDE4 and Cherry Cymotion Linux keyboard
Alle Monday 13 April 2009, Charles de Miramon ha scritto: > Hello, > > I have upgraded my Debian sid box to KDE4. Thank you for the packaging work > ! > > I have a USB Cherry Cymotion Linux keyboard and upgrading to KDE4 (and maybe > to the latest xorg) broke the keyboard mapping. For example, the 'Down' key > is remapped to XF86Terminal. > > The only way to restore a correct behaviour is to run on the command line : > setxkbmap -model cymotionlinux -layout fr > > But the wrong keyboard layout comes back when I restart KDE > > I have tried to change the keyboard layout in settings->Regional Settings > without success. > > The problem is specific to KDE because the keyboard layout is fine when I > start another WM > > I have tried to grep the .kde directory to find a problematic configuration > file but without sucess. > > I'm wondering if it is a problem of configuration files or a KDE4 bug ? > > My xorg.conf keyboard section is : > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Generic Keyboard" > Driver "kbd" > Option "CoreKeyboard" > Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > Option "XkbModel" "cymotionlinux" > Option "XkbLayout" "fr" > Option "XkbVariant""latin9" > EndSection > > Cheers, > Charles > > > -- > http://www.kde-france.org > IMHO this is not KDE's fault, but X: probably you will notice that in terminal the console is working properly. In the last X version keyboard and mouse are managed differently (by evdev driver) and If this is your problem, you should remove every line related to mouse and keyboard from /etc/X11/xorg.conf and after configure console through: dpkg-reconfigure console-data. If you really need a different setup (evdev is not able to catch all the possible multimedia keys) you should tweak your xorg.conf to let X use the old drive. Bye Valerio
Re: Upgrading to KDE4 and Cherry Cymotion Linux keyboard
Alle Monday 13 April 2009, Charles de Miramon ha scritto: > Valerio Passini wrote: > > > > > > IMHO this is not KDE's fault, but X: probably you will notice that in > > terminal the console is working properly. In the last X version keyboard > > and mouse are managed differently (by evdev driver) and If this is your > > problem, you should remove every line related to mouse and keyboard from > > /etc/X11/xorg.conf and after configure console through: dpkg-reconfigure > > console-data. If you really need a different setup (evdev is not able to > > catch all the possible multimedia keys) you should tweak your xorg.conf to > > let X use the old drive. Bye > > > > Valerio > > Thank you for your answer. > > I have suppressed in xorg.conf the lines concerning the keyboard and it > still does not work. > > In .xsessions-errors, I have this line : > kxkb(3458) XKBExtension::setLayoutGroups: executing "/usr/bin/setxkbmap - > model evdev -layout fr -variant -option -option compose:lwin" > > which has a wrong syntax, it should be : > kxkb(3458) XKBExtension::setLayoutGroups: executing "/usr/bin/setxkbmap - > model evdev -layout fr -option compose:lwin" > > Cheers, > Charles > -- > http://www.kde-france.org > > > Can you start from a brand new xorg.conf file? Just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it will produce a very essential xorg.conf. If you have nvidia or ATI card you can add the appropriate stanzas by copying/pasting from your old conf. Here it's mine (as an example): # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section "Device" Identifier "nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600M GS" Driver "nvidia" Option "DynamicTwinView" "0" Option "AddARGBVisuals""True" Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" Option "Coolbits" "False" Option "BackingStore" "True" Option "OnDemandVBlankInterrupts" "True" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Configured Monitor" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Monitor "Configured Monitor" EndSection Don't use it blindly :)
Re: Upgrading to KDE4 and Cherry Cymotion Linux keyboard
> No. It does not work with your xorg.conf. But with your options, I get > compositing and the desktop effects work ;-) > > Cheers, > Charles > > > Ok, next big improvement can be selecting the right keyboard layout. Have you configured your console layout? X use the same. Can you post here your xorg.conf and /etc/default/console-data? Have you tried to set the keyboard under KDE? Go to systemsettings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard layout Check "enable keyboard layout" and select your keyboard. If it doesn't work, remember to post the data asked you before. V
Re: For AMD64, Synaptic wants to remove konqueror, kdebase
Alle Thursday 23 April 2009, Edward C. Jones ha scritto: > I have an AMD64 chip, so I use the AMD64 port of Debian. I use the > unstable distribution. About two weeks ago, there was a major update of > KDE for unstable. As part of this update, synaptic wanted to remove > kdebase, kde-core, and konqueror, among other things. This is still the > case today. I have not done the update for fear that KDE will be > trashed. What is the problem? > > There is nothing to worry about. KDE3 in unstable is gone and now there will be only KDE4. Read here: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html; if you want to move to KDE4 otherwise you must pin KDE3 packages in apt preference (or use another method for synaptic) in order to keep it. KDE4 is still developing and it's missing some feature you may need: Bluetooth it's completely missing, NetworkManager and K3b are missing too, but you can use the KDE3 version without problems, Printer manager is present but it has less features than before. Said that, KDE4 is faster is prettier and is going to have a lot of more features than KDE3. Bye Valerio
Re: no keyboard on upgrade from lenny to testing
Alle sabato 25 aprile 2009, Marc Bantle ha scritto: > Hi, > > I just upgraded from lenny(stable) to testing. > > Keyboard works for login in kdm as well > as on console (ctrl+alt+F1). In KDE no > keyboard input is available, just mouse. > > I attached some logs, in which I couldn't > find anything that would point me in the > right direction. > > Any ideas? > > Cheers, Marc > > > This is probably related to xserver-xorg and evdev driver. This topic has been debated before, look in the mail archive. Valerio
Re: Kde 4.2.2 - Screensaver settings wont stay between reboots
Alle Sunday 26 April 2009, hai scritto: > On Saturday 25 Apr 2009, Valerio Passini wrote: > > Alle giovedì 23 aprile 2009, Bob ha scritto: > > > I can set the screensaver and display power management with the "System > > > Settings" application and these parameters remain for the current session > > > but they need to re-set again after a re-boot. > > > > > > Similarly when running Kontact,I have the same problem with kmail and > > > knode "Unread" and "Total" columns which I set by selecting the "view > > > columns" by right clicking in the title bar. > > > > > > Is there a setting I have missed somewhere that will make these settings > > > stick between sessions? > > > > > It sounds like a permission problem. Can you check if the configuration > > files inside ~/.kde/share/config/ and ~/.kde/share/apps/ have set the > > correct permissions for writing and reading? > > Thank you for the suggestion, but I cant see any problems with the > permissions. I wonder if the problem is associated with the bug in > article: <200904251224.37008.hans.ullr...@loop.de> > several package related bugs in kde4.22 > > "--- > 2. Screensaver does not unlock. I suppose, this is a rights problem by the > application, which starts or unlocks the screensaver (I had the same problem > in kde3 to, where I had to set the sticky bit for root). In kde4 things are > handled in an other way, so I am a little bit lost, where to look." > > > Bob No, I don't think looking at their descriptions that these problems are the same in anyway. You have something that does not retain your settings, this other guy is having problems with unlocking the screen after the screensaver has started. The only thing in common, from my POV is that you are talking about screensaver, apart from that two completely different bugs. Have you tried to create a new user and then look if the behavior is the same? Bye Valerio
Re: State of Konqueror - Was: Konqueror: webkit instead of khtml
Alle Tuesday 28 April 2009, Felix Homann ha scritto: > Hi, > > first, let me state that Konqueror has been my standard browser for > many, many years now. It has been my standard browser although: > > 1. Javascript *never* worked decently IMO > 2. Flash *never* worked decently IMO > 3. Java *never* worked decently IMO > > It has been my standard browser because it still worked for > approximately 90% of the web pages I visit on a regular basis while it's > much better integrated in KDE than the alternatives. For the pages that > would not render in Konqueror I could still use Iceweasel. > > The situation has dramatically changed in KDE 4. With KDE 4, 90 % of the > web pages I visit on a regular basis could *not* be rendered decently in > Konqueror. I could not even log in on bugs.kde.org with Konqueror from > one machine until 4.2.2 ... > > Yes, KDE 4.2.2 ships a much improved Konqueror. But still, there are so > many sites that Konqueror won't display properly, including my *own* > sites. (Have you ever tried managing a Drupal site with Konqueror??) > > So the question is not about Webkit or KHTML. I couldn't care less about > the rendering engine in use. The question is how usable Konqueror is at > the moment. For me the answer is sad but clear: > > *Konqueror in it's current state is almost useless.* (For me!) > > After using the "Open with Iceweasel" button way to often recently I'm > finally using Iceweasel as the default now. A decision I did not make > easily. > > The sadest part is that it reminds me of a similar switch I made about a > year ago: I switched from KMail to Icedove because of the "most hated > bug" in KDE, the well known UI freeze in KMail. Do I go back? Don't > think so. Why should I struggle setting it all up again in KMail 4.x.x. > > So the strange situation is this now: I'm facing a beautiful KDE 4.2.2 > desktop while my most prominent standard applications have GTK > interfaces: Iceweasel, Icedove, Emacs, Inkscape, Gimp, Eclipse. > > Do I use a single KDE app regularly right now? Well, yes, Dolphin (very, > very buggy), Amarok 2 (very,very buggy), Konsole and that's it. > > (BTW, while preparing this mail Konqueror crashed on 3 different sites, > one of them bugs.kde.org!) > > Kind regards, > > Felix I think you are just missing the point that this is Open Source/Free Software and its development is not tied to any economical revenue. Developers implement and program following a common project layout and goal just for personal pleasure (that is) in most cases (even though there is a small part of payed programmers, they are simply not enough to take care of all the aspects and issue of a large project like KDE or GNOME or Linux kernel ). Even if this is the nature of their "work" (I'm using quotes because it's not a payed job, but it is a real effort), they generally ask two things as a contribution: feedback for bugs and patience. Not so much after all. So please, I'm not flaming, this kind of emails full of complains and menacing to switch to others application it's simply not in the right direction. Best regards Valerio
Re: State of Konqueror - Was: Konqueror: webkit instead of khtml
Alle Tuesday 28 April 2009, Felix Homann ha scritto: > Hi, > > Valerio Passini wrote: > > > > I think you are just missing the point that this is Open Source/Free > > Software and its development is not tied to any economical revenue. > > I don't think I'm missing anything here. > > > Developers implement and program following a common project layout and > > goal just for personal pleasure (that is) in most cases. > > Exactly, and I am happily helping some Free/OSS projects by sending > bugreports, feedback and patches (I even contributed a patch to the > Linux kernel itself). I do it for my personal pleasure. The more I like > the project the more effort do I put in helping the project. > > Right now, I could send a backtrace of a Konqueror crash almost every > hour. I don't have the time for that! You see, I'm not payed for it > either. (And mostly the crash is related to a bug already reported). > > > they generally ask two things as a contribution: feedback for bugs and > > patience. > > I've reported every single bug I came along in Konqueror unless it had > been reported before (chances are high, there are so many reports for > Konqueror). > > For patience, it depends on how severe the issue is. Let me give you an > example: Before 4.2.2 Konqueror crashed whenever you tried to move a > bookmark folder around in the bookmark editor. An annoying issue, but it > wouldn't stop me from using Konqueror as the default browser. If on the > other hand I can't visit my own homepage with Konqueror anymore it's not > a matter of patience, then I just *have* to use a different browser. Many people considered Konqueror's web browsing ability superfluous since there were a lot of programs providing this functionality. It was revamped by the developing its rendering engine has had by Apple. So you should consider that you are lucky to find it in KDE4 and to have a browser able to get 85% score on acid 3 tests (more than firefox) and BTW who said that a Desktop Environment should provide every program, thus having everything multiplied twice or trice (GNOME, XFCE, LXDE)? > You on the other hand are seemingly missing another point: The > developers put their program out in the public. Moreover, in the case of > KDE/Konqueror they even claim that it is "the most advanced and powerful > free desktop" (see www.kde.org). Putting a program out in the public is not putting a program out for your particular purposes, I mean, not for John Smith or Felix Homann or Valerio Passini in a specific way. It's there to be used and developed, if you want you can use it and contribute to it. Everyone is responsible for himself in Open Source. If you pick a statement in KDE website just to show: you are not where you promised to be (BTW to me it seems a very general statement); then you should demonstrate where KDE has promised to fulfill any specific purpose beyond giving you a working Desktop Environment. Is it a free Desktop Environment task to provide an Internet browser, an office suite, many multimedia players, developing tools? Mmm, no I don't think so. Let's consider Koffice: it is an alternative to OpenOffice, but I think it has far less users. Should it be considered has a "must have" feature of a Desktop Environment, so it is integrated well with the general look and feel of the KDE? Or should it be abandoned since it has a bunch of users in comparison with OpenOffice? > Measured on that basis, Konqueror as an integral part of KDE cannot hold > up to that claim. See, we're not talking about KDE 4.0 here, this is KDE > 4.2.2 which should be usable for most users. > > I'm not demanding anything, I'm not angry at KDE/Konqueror developers, > the developers should take all the time they need, I'm not pushing them. So what was the original purpose of your email? > I'm just saying "I as a person who needs to *work* with a browser can't > use Konqueror as the default browser anymore. It is just too buggy at > the moment." And I'm very sad having to say that. You see, I'm about to > loose a good old friend, so to say. Everybody needs something, you are not a special case. But you have many options instead of using KDE4 if you need a completely stable and reliable environment. > This kind of feedback must be allowed. And it must be allowed to point > out the related danger for the KDE project in general: If the most > central applications (mail, browser, file manager) do not work properly, > a KDE is in danger of loosing users. Actually, I for one slowly drifted > into using KDE mainly as a window manager, unwillingly. This kind of feedback is not prohibited, it wil
Re: State of Konqueror - Was: Konqueror: webkit instead of khtml
Alle Tuesday 28 April 2009, Felix Homann ha scritto: > Most probably, your rather a little less ;-) The effect grows with the > size of your mailboxes. KMail didn't stop working for me, either. I > stopped working with KMail, because I couldn't fluently write emails > anymore. While KMail was filtering my Emails the GUI would freeze. Probably a misconfiguration of Kmail, since I have collected all the messages from 2001 and I never experience a slowdown: I have set the filters in a way that messages that don't need to be scanned never pass through spamassassin. Not bad for less than an average user, isn't? > The larger your mailbox the longer the freezes would stay. Do you mean that kmail always scans every mail you had received before? This is not a default behavior. Usually kmail should just process incoming emails: check your configuration. Bye Valerio
Looking glass effect in KDE4
Hello, I was playing a little with desktop effects and found that the Looking glass doesn't work and freezes plasma too. Is it happening only to me? Valerio
Re: Looking glass effect in KDE4
Alle Thursday 30 April 2009, emikaadeo ha scritto: > Valerio Passini wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I was playing a little with desktop effects and found that the Looking > > glass doesn't work and freezes plasma too. Is it happening only to me? > > > > Valerio > > It doesn't work for me either but i don't experience any freezes. > > Kernel 2.6.29 > XServer 1.6.1 > Intel 945GM card > > Anyway, this is a bug and it should be fixed in upcoming upstream KDE 4.2.3 > See: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=183981 > Thank you fro your kind reply. Valerio
Re: printing in kde4
Alle Monday 04 May 2009, Dietz Pröpper ha scritto: > Frank Störzer: > > Hi, > > > > Am Monday 04 May 2009 19:42:38 schrieb Dietz Pröpper: > > > Hi, > > > > > > stupid question - where is the configuration of the kde4 print dialog > > > stored? Stuff like which printing system to use, special printers > > > (fas, PDF) and so on? > > > > I think it is in the package system-config-printer-kde. > > Unfortunately, that package only contains some semi-working python config > ui for the cups server :-\. Once you have added and configured a printer, no matter which tool you use to do it, you have that printer in every application. Given that, you can use a browser and point it to localhost:631. You will configure the printer inside an intuitive web interface. Configuring printers is something you don't need to do very often, so you can use this other way. Bye Valerio
Re: printing in kde4
Alle Tuesday 05 May 2009, Dietz Pröpper ha scritto: > Valerio Passini: > > Alle Monday 04 May 2009, Dietz Pröpper ha scritto: > > > Frank Störzer: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Am Monday 04 May 2009 19:42:38 schrieb Dietz Pröpper: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > stupid question - where is the configuration of the kde4 print > > > > > dialog stored? Stuff like which printing system to use, special > > > > > printers (fas, PDF) and so on? > > > > > > > > I think it is in the package system-config-printer-kde. > > > > > > Unfortunately, that package only contains some semi-working python > > > config ui for the cups server :-\. > > > > Once you have added and configured a printer, no matter which tool you > > use to do it, you have that printer in every application. > > *Sigh*. Thanks alot, I already knew. > > But my question was, where can I configure the *KDE* printing system. More > specifically, how can I add/modify "special" printers like "print to > file(PDF)" and so on. > > You should add a pdf printer to CUPS. First install cups-pdf, then select the right printer in the configuration dialog. I think you can use system-config-printer-kde (warning! sometimes it freezes and do sudo to call the program) -> click New Printer in the left panel. Then click New Printer in the right panel and follow the instructions. For pdf printer is obvious, but when it comes to driver select generic. Hope this is enough V
Re: printing in kde4
Alle Tuesday 05 May 2009, Dietz Pröpper ha scritto: > Valerio Passini: > > Alle Monday 04 May 2009, Dietz Pröpper ha scritto: > > > Frank Störzer: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Am Monday 04 May 2009 19:42:38 schrieb Dietz Pröpper: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > stupid question - where is the configuration of the kde4 print > > > > > dialog stored? Stuff like which printing system to use, special > > > > > printers (fas, PDF) and so on? > > > > > > > > I think it is in the package system-config-printer-kde. > > > > > > Unfortunately, that package only contains some semi-working python > > > config ui for the cups server :-\. > > > > Once you have added and configured a printer, no matter which tool you > > use to do it, you have that printer in every application. > > *Sigh*. Thanks alot, I already knew. > > But my question was, where can I configure the *KDE* printing system. More > specifically, how can I add/modify "special" printers like "print to > file(PDF)" and so on. > > Anyway, I was suggesting using a browser+CUPS just because the printer system in KDE is not ready and system-config-printer-kde is buggy. Probably we are going to see some improvements in KDE4.3, around June or so.
Re: printing in kde4
Alle Tuesday 05 May 2009, Christoph Burgmer ha scritto: > Am Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 schrieb Valerio Passini: > > Alle Tuesday 05 May 2009, Dietz Pröpper ha scritto: > > > Valerio Passini: > > > > Alle Monday 04 May 2009, Dietz Pröpper ha scritto: > > > > > Frank Störzer: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Monday 04 May 2009 19:42:38 schrieb Dietz Pröpper: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stupid question - where is the configuration of the kde4 print > > > > > > > dialog stored? Stuff like which printing system to use, special > > > > > > > printers (fas, PDF) and so on? > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it is in the package system-config-printer-kde. > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, that package only contains some semi-working python > > > > > config ui for the cups server :-\. > > > > > > > > Once you have added and configured a printer, no matter which tool you > > > > use to do it, you have that printer in every application. > > > > > > *Sigh*. Thanks alot, I already knew. > > > > > > But my question was, where can I configure the *KDE* printing system. > > > More specifically, how can I add/modify "special" printers like "print to > > > file(PDF)" and so on. > > > > You should add a pdf printer to CUPS. First install cups-pdf, then select > > the right printer in the configuration dialog. I think you can use > > system-config-printer-kde (warning! sometimes it freezes and do sudo to > > call the program) -> click New Printer in the left panel. Then click New > > Printer in the right panel and follow the instructions. For pdf printer is > > obvious, but when it comes to driver select generic. Hope this is enough > > > > V > > If I understand him correctly he wants to add stuff on the KDE level, without > the need of CUPS. Dunno where to look, do a 'grep -r "print to file(PDF)" /' > :) > > Why would you want that though? CUPS is a perfect level of abstraction where > you would want to do things. > > Christoph > > Yes, I have tried to guide him to the right procedure. For having a pdf printer, first cups-pdf it's needed (it might be superfluous to tell, but you never know). Then I explained how to use system-config-printer-kde, that at the moment is the only one UI for adding printers in a KDE fashion (just because it looks like a KDE application). Plus I have give him some advice on how much nasty this program can be. All the above stuff was correctly answered before by another member, but seeing that it was not enough I have tried to be more verbose. Cheers Valerio
Re: printing in kde4
Alle Tuesday 05 May 2009, marc ha scritto: > Valerio Passini said: > > > You should add a pdf printer to CUPS. First install cups-pdf, > > As I understand it, the need for cups-pdf has gone, because the ability > to generate a pdf is available via print to file, in all cases. He asked for that as an example. > Please switch of html. Thanks. Sorry, I didn't mean to turn it on ever, probably I have pressed the wrong button... Bye -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: printing in kde4
Alle Tuesday 05 May 2009, marc ha scritto: > Valerio Passini said: > > > You should add a pdf printer to CUPS. First install cups-pdf, > > As I understand it, the need for cups-pdf has gone, because the ability > to generate a pdf is available via print to file, in all cases. > > Please switch of html. Thanks. I have checked that all the emails I have sent since the installation (during February) of KDE4.2 are in HTML. This is probably the default behavior that comes with the last kmail, because I swear that I have never used to send HTML mails before that time. Sorry again V -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
plasma-widget-networkmanagement
Dear Developers, the applet in experimental is now working on my home wi-fi lan, protected with WEP, and I would like to thank you for packaging it and KDE4 developers for constantly improving everything to meet our needs, regardless of the exaggereted complaints about their work. Thank you Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: USB devices not properly ejected from the "new devices" plasmoïd.
Alle lunedì 01 giugno 2009, tv.deb...@googlemail.com ha scritto: > Hi all, > > I use KDE4 on Squeeze, I noticed that when I "eject" my camera (usb, > mass storage mode) with the default "new devices" plasmoïd (the one > sitting in the panel) I don't get the message "remove ok" I used to get > from the camera. If I run the "eject" command manually the camera > displays the usual reassuring message "remove ok", and I see the actual > removal in dmesg. > If I use Gnome I get the message too, as I used to on KDE3.5. If I use > the plasmoïde with a cd it does eject it fine (open the tray). > > So I am wondering if there's something wrong, and potentially armful in > this behavior. And how could I tweak this behavior, in a KDE config > file, with a hal rule ? > > Thanks for any pointer, > > Tom It's a bug upstream: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=187242 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: A few problems with KDE 4.2
Alle mercoledì 03 giugno 2009, David ha scritto: > Hi there. Hi > - Ctrl+Alt+Backspace seems to have been disabled. > I'm already using the Dontzap serverflags xorg.conf option, that > doesn't seem to make a difference (I disagree with with xorg having > changed this package, and users not being warned afaict, but that's > offtopic for this list...). If you use stock kernel you can press the combination Alt+SysStamp+k to kill everything running in that console or VT, otherwise you must enable kernel hacking-> Magic sysrq key and re-compile. > > - I can't configure the date format in the system tray clock. It shows > "3 Jun 2009", I want it to show 2009-06-03 Launch systemsettings go to Country language options and set manually the date format you want if it's not present in the dropdown menu. For exampe:/MM/DD Hope this helps. Bye Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How to log out
Alle mercoledì 03 giugno 2009, Diederik de Haas ha scritto: > In the Kickoff - Leave menu there is an option to log out, but it always > shuts down my computer, just like Shutdown does. > How can I configure it to actually log out? > Or is Ctl + Alt + Backspace the way to do that? No, it's weird, but there should be a working blue button with an arrow to exit the session. Is it there? Anyhow Ctl + Alt + Backspace it's not really a viable option, if you want it back, you should tweak the xorg.conf file, otherwise use something similar like alt+sysprint+k, but indeed, to close your session all that you need is that blue button. Does it work if you right click on the desktop? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How to log out
Alle giovedì 04 giugno 2009, Diederik de Haas ha scritto: > do have that blue button, but it invokes the shutdown procedure :-/ > Ctl + Alt + Backspace does work for me, since I have the DontZap Serverflag > in my xorg.conf.The C+A+BS 'solution' was actually written in annoyance > since I fell in the logout trap for the gazillianth time. > In another post I also saw the sysprint button mentioned, but I don't know > which key that is. sysprint is the key you press when you want a screenshot of your desktop, usually it's already bound to ksnapshot. > Right-clicking on the desktop and choosing Logout does have the desired > effect, thanks! Ok, good news. At least you don't need that combination unless you have real big problems. > On my brothers system (Kubuntu with KDE 4.2.2) that logout button does what > is supposed to do. Does that mean that this is a Debian packaging problem > (and therefor should be reported on b.d.o) This is the first time someone reports this issue here, thus I think that this could be just your problem (i.e: misconfiguration). Indeed I have several Debian installations and none behaves in this way. Have you given a try to a completely new user? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: desktop effects gone with kernel 2.6.30
Alle giovedì 11 giugno 2009, Marcus Better ha scritto: > Hi, > > after upgrading from kernel 2.6.29.4 to 2.6.30, desktop effects cannot be > enabled anymore in KDE 4.2.4. > > The system is a Thinkpad T61 with Intel GM965, xserver-xorg-video-intel > 2:2.7.99.1-2, xserver-xorg-core 2:1.6.1.901-2, using UXA and KMS. Any ideas > where to start looking? Nothing stands out in the X.org logs. > > Cheers, > > Marcus Hi Marcus, Usually there are compatibility options in new kernels to keep features working on other programs that uses old api/abi (stuff that for me it's just a buzzword). Just a suggestion. Bye Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: desktop effects gone with kernel 2.6.30
Alle giovedì 11 giugno 2009, Marcus Better ha scritto: > Stefano Avallone wrote: > > What's the output of glxinfo regarding the OpenGL renderer string? If it > > is software rasterizer, it may explain the lack of desktop effects. > > $ glxinfo |grep render > direct rendering: Yes > OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM GEM 20090418 2009Q1 > > Looks good I think? > > Cheers, > > Marcus Indeed, it looks good. Have you checked if it is a misconfiguration problem by mean of a completely new user? Does KDE work with your old kernel now? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KMail - 4.2.4 outdated documentation...?
Alle venerdì 19 giugno 2009, Diederik de Haas ha scritto: > On Thursday 18 June 2009 22:26:39 marc wrote: > > Just so you know, Ubuntu doesn't supply any help system with kmail; it's > > completely empty. > > I've noticed that basically all KDE documentation is severely out of date > :-( And I think that the documentation in it's current state is more > misleading/confusing then helping people. > > So removing it all-together doesn't sound like such a bad idea imo, since > it basically forces the user to look elsewhere for proper/up-to-date > documentation. > > Diederik Documentation is like sex... when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing. - Dick Brandon :) Vale -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4 Issues with Nvidia Card
Alle domenica 21 giugno 2009, Edson Marquezani Filho ha scritto: > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 19:05, Federico Brega wrote: > > I've got this issue too. I'd like to compile nvidia module following > > the Debian way, so I use module-assistant to not install the nvidia > > driver every time a switch to another kernel version. > > Is there a way to do something like that on a newer driver? > > Thanks > > Federico > > As far as I know, there's no way to avoid recompiling third-part > modules every time you change your kernel. Even using module-assistant > you have to do this, don't you? (Actualy, It makes no sense not have > to, just because a binary module is directly associated to an > individual kernel). > > All the times I have switched to another kernel, I had to recompile > modules that don't come with it by default. Probably Federico was referring to the uninstallation of the other kernel modules and re- installation of the glx components, alongside the usual compilation of the module itself, performed every time by the nvidia installer if you don't use special options at the CLI. Indeed module assistant and the Debian way are simpler than the standard nvidia way. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian SID: KDE wont use Hicolor Icon Theme although its installed
Alle venerdì 26 giugno 2009, Juergen Hornung ha scritto: > Hi there, > after a while of digging around why KDE4.2 wont display some KDE app icons, > its seems that > KDE wont use the (installed) hicolor icon theme. > > How can I fix this? > > Thanks > jeibie Have you chosen the right icon theme like Oxygen? What's the colour depth of your X? We need more information to help you to address this problem. Bye -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian SID: KDE wont use Hicolor Icon Theme although its installed
Alle venerdì 26 giugno 2009, Juergen Hornung ha scritto: > > Alle venerdì 26 giugno 2009, Juergen Hornung ha scritto: > > > Hi there, > > > after a while of digging around why KDE4.2 wont display some KDE app > > > > icons, > > > > > its seems that > > > KDE wont use the (installed) hicolor icon theme. > > > > > > How can I fix this? > > > > > > Thanks > > > jeibie > > > > Have you chosen the right icon theme like Oxygen? What's the colour depth > > of your X? We > > need more information to help you to address this problem. > > Oxygen Icon theme is default, X depth is 24. > Applications, that have their app icon at /usr/share/icons/oxygen/ are > displayed correctly for example konqueror. > But other programs as okular, kopete, ... are having their app icons only > at /usr/share/icons/hicolor > Of course hicolor Icon theme is installed! > Creating a new system user at the same system doesnt help - the error is > the same. > > Any tips? > > jeibie May I see a screenshot of your desktop? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian SID: KDE wont use Hicolor Icon Theme although its installed
Alle venerdì 26 giugno 2009, Juergen Hornung ha scritto: > > Alle venerdì 26 giugno 2009, Juergen Hornung ha scritto: > > > > Alle venerdì 26 giugno 2009, Juergen Hornung ha scritto: > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > after a while of digging around why KDE4.2 wont display some KDE > > > > > app > > > > > > > > icons, > > > > > > > > > its seems that > > > > > KDE wont use the (installed) hicolor icon theme. > > > > > > > > > > How can I fix this? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > jeibie > > > > > > > > Have you chosen the right icon theme like Oxygen? What's the colour > > > > depth > > > > > > of your X? We > > > > need more information to help you to address this problem. > > > > > > Oxygen Icon theme is default, X depth is 24. > > > Applications, that have their app icon at /usr/share/icons/oxygen/ > > > > are > > > > > displayed correctly for example konqueror. > > > But other programs as okular, kopete, ... are having their app icons > > > only at /usr/share/icons/hicolor > > > Of course hicolor Icon theme is installed! > > > Creating a new system user at the same system doesnt help - the error > > > is the same. > > > > > > Any tips? > > > > > > jeibie > > > > May I see a screenshot of your desktop? > > Why that, and what special? > > I want to know how to check that /usr/share/icons/hicolor/.. is in the kde > icons search path. > > Maybe you know how to do it, or someone else knows how to do it? I think it's a standard path and if you open the appearance settings it should point straight there. If not, you could specify any position for custom and already installed themes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4.3 RC
Alle Wednesday 01 July 2009, Manolete, ese artista... ha scritto: > Hi, List. > > As far as I've read it seems that isn't going to be a 4.2.5 release for KDE > (correct me if I'm worng) since developers prfer to concentrate on > polishing 4.3, so my question I think is previsible: Shall we have 4.3 RC1 > for Debian? I know y'all, mantainers, decided not to loose you scarce time > in packaging betas of 4.3; but what about this RC for testing and reporting > bugs? > > Cheers I'm pretty sure that if you dig enough the mailing list you can find a message where the developers clearly state that RC will never be available in sid. Sorry, but you should compile it by yourself if you want to do testing and report bugs to KDE. Bye Vale -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE4.2 & folder view widget
Alle martedì 07 luglio 2009, Didier Lecardez ha scritto: > Hi, > > I'm using KDE 4.2 and I'm adding a "Folder View" widget in a panel. By > default the icon used by this widget is represented by a 'home' icon. > > I would like to change this default icon, because I'll have many "Folder > view" to add and I'd like to differentiate them. > > I've not found any ways to change this icon in the "Folder View Settings" . > > Any ideas ? > > Thanks in advance. > > Didier. Hi, I have looked into the options, but what do you mean when you say that you want to customize the icon representing the folder view? The widget itself appears as a window with items inside and there is no icon for it. AFAIK the only possible choices are to select the window title and the path where it is pointing to. Sorry I can't give more help. Bye Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 4.2.96 on Experimental
Alle lunedì 20 luglio 2009, David Baron ha scritto: > Worth a try or best wait for 4.3 on Sid? Given that you have to wait just a week or so for the new, official and likely stable KDE 4.3 release packaged for Debian, it's up to you to try. I think that it's not worth after all to compile everything by yourself. Bye Vale -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 4.2.96 on Experimental
Alle lunedì 20 luglio 2009, Valerio Passini ha scritto: > Alle lunedì 20 luglio 2009, David Baron ha scritto: > > Worth a try or best wait for 4.3 on Sid? > > Given that you have to wait just a week or so for the new, official and > likely stable KDE 4.3 release packaged for Debian, it's up to you to try. I > think that it's not worth after all to compile everything by yourself. > Bye > > Vale Sorry, I didn't see that 4.2.96 was in experimental, but apart that compiling is not needed, the other considerations are still valid. Anyhow, Debian KDE developers are too good: despite the fact that they told us that no beta or RC was likely to be available, they provided it indeed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Several packages potentially removed
Dear Developers, At the moment with apt-get dist-upgrade the system tells that several packages are going to be removed. I don't know if the packaging has been redesigned or the packages removed or it's only needed to wait a little more for the packages to be available on every mirror. Please, can you clarify? The packages are the following: akonadi-kde kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdebase-runtime-data-common kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 libkholidays4 plasma-scriptengine-python plasma-scriptengines plasma-widget-ktorrent plasma-widget-networkmanagement plasma-widget-weather printer-applet python-kde4 system-config-printer-kde -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Several packages potentially removed
Alle giovedì 06 agosto 2009, Modestas Vainius ha scritto: > Hello, >... > They need to be rebuilt. Fast and precise as usual. Thank You. Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Upgrading to 4.3
Alle venerdì 07 agosto 2009, B A ha scritto: > Okay, I have seen some of the traffic on this list, missing packages, lack > of functionality etc. > > I run Compiz atop kde 4.2.4, and I am wondering if anyone knows what might > break. Has anyone tried kde 4.3 with compiz? I use compiz instead of the > builtin kde compositing because there are a few features that I use in > Compiz that the native one doesn't have. > > Also, is it worth upgrading now or should I wait for a few more days until > the teething problems are ironed out? > > Thanks. > --b Given that compiz is a different window manager not depending on anything of KDE4, using it should be no problem. Just tried for a second using the option inside systemsettings -> Default application -> Window manager and it works. Bye Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: digiKam and KDE 4.2.3 ugrade
Oggetto: Re: digiKam and KDE 4.2.3 ugrade Data: venerdì 07 agosto 2009 Da: Valerio Passini A: benj...@gmail.com Alle giovedì 06 agosto 2009, Benjamí Villoslada ha scritto: > Hi, > > After KDE 4.2.2 to 4.2.3 upgrade digiKam doesn't show images. > > I've deleted configuration in ,kde, deleted digikam4.db file, uninstalled > and installed digiKam with no success. > > Any workaround? Thanks :) Recompiling should be the last option. Are you on testing or unstable? The version I'm using now, 1.0 beta 3, at least runs and opens pictures. Would you dare to install it from unstable? Bye Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Klipper actions lost (KDE 4.2.3)
Alle venerdì 07 agosto 2009, Benjamí Villoslada ha scritto: > Hi, > > Since KDE 4.2.3 upgrade Klipper doesn't show the «Open With» option after > one URL copy. Maybe the reason is that «Regular expressions» configuration > section is empty? I don't remember this from the KDE 4.2.2 version. I think the default klipper's behaviour has been changed upon request because it was annoying. Probably you can restore it creating a filter with an action, but the man pages are really old and it's not explained how to do it. Just one link got googling around about this topic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Klipper Bye P.S.: why do you call it 4.2.3? Do you have KDE4.2.3 for real? It would be strange since it never was packaged and 4.2.4 came after 4.2.2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: current openssl for unstable (0.9.8k-4) broken?
Alle venerdì 14 agosto 2009, Dietz Pröpper ha scritto: > Quoting myself... > > You: > > using the openssl version from above, konqueror complains that it > > can not verify ceritificates due to some unqualified "internal error". > > I don't know, wether it happens on all certificates. One example > > is http://www.m-net.de. > > > > Downgrading openssl to 0.9.8k-3 seems to fix this. > > > > Can anyone reproduce this (in current unstable)? > > I was too optimistic - the same happens with downgraded openssl. At the moment, I can just confirm this problem happens to me too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Weird behaviour - resize of konsoles has 2s delay
Alle lunedì 24 agosto 2009, jedd ha scritto: > On Sun 2009-08-23, George Kiagiadakis wrote: > > 2009/8/23 jedd : > > > With konsoles, typically full-screen, or at least full-vertical > > > size, click-and-hold the top or side edge and start to re-size. > > > For me I'm getting a 2s delay - during which X basically freezes. > > ... > > > You are probably using quite old nvidia drivers. This is a known > > nvidia bug, but it is supposed to be fixed in recent versions of the > > driver. Try upgrading it. > > George - thanks for your suggestion. > > Since April (4.2.2 into unstable) I've been tracking the nVidia > drivers fairly regularly, updating within a week of new ones > being released. I see that .31 was replaced by .36 a couple > of days ago, so I've grabbed and installed that version. > > Surprisingly, there's nothing in their changelog that looks > related. > > After using this new driver for a few hours, I feel that it > might have helped (it's a tricky call) but it certainly hasn't > solved the problem unfortunately. > > Jedd. Hi Jedd, There are options in the nvidia driver that must be enabled/disabled to solve this problem. First you should check if you have a config that is conflicting with the default nvidia setup. The latest releases of the driver are configured to have the best performances by default with KDE4. Give a look to xorg.conf xinitrc in /etc and your home folder. Try to use nvidia-settings after as suggested here: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118110 . Anyhow, this is not a KDE4 bug. Device section in my xorg.conf: Section "Device" Identifier "nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600M GS" Driver "nvidia" Option "DynamicTwinView" "0" Option "AddARGBVisuals""True" Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" Option "Coolbits" "False" Option "BackingStore" "True" Option "OnDemandVBlankInterrupts" "True" EndSection Read what every option does to your X. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Weird behaviour - resize of konsoles has 2s delay
Alle martedì 25 agosto 2009, jedd ha scritto: > Hi Valerio, > > Thanks for your suggestion, and your xorg device section. > > I copied that into my xorg, replacing my existing sections for > my two 8600's. > > It just took 8 seconds to resize an empty (apart from a prompt) > konsole that occupied a third of the screen. > > That is, I click and hold the top edge, and move the mouse up or > down, and then wait. > > 8 seconds! Hot dang! > > I've counted up to 11 seconds in some cases, but it usually > hovers around the 3-6 second mark. > > I'm not convinced it's a KDE 4 problem, but it doesn't seem like an > X problem simply because it is affecting konsole and, seemingly, > nothing else. I think I saw a bit of tardy response from okular, > but that hasn't been repeatable. It doesn't appear to be text- > based, as this email window (kmail) can resize very quickly. > Ditto other applications I use (OOo, quanta, konq, iceweasel, > amarok) -- all of them tend to be text-heavy. > > I modified my konsole settings - for several years I've used the > dark/transparent background - but I went back to something > more conservative just on the off-chance. No change. > > I made the changes that thread you posted suggested - these > were nvidia-settings from a user-level account - and again, no > change. > > Remember, I'm on a quad-core box, 2GB ram, very little happening > on the CPU front (trickling along at 8% on average), and one monitor. > > 7 seconds - consistently! - just to resize one type of application > is a particularly curious little bug. > > Hence I was interested if anyone else around these parts is seeing > anything similar. It's looking like I might be on my own, though. > > cheers, > Jedd. Sorry for replying just now, I've been away. Have you the same problem on both your PCs? Have you tried to login with a fresh account just to check that this is not a problem related to configuration? My PC has half the power of your and it's always smooth so your problem is really weird ;). Other things I suggest to check are: Compositing type: OpenGL Mark Enable Direct Rendering Unmark Use Vsync OpenGL mode Texture from pixmaps Let me know your progresses Bye -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: knetworkmanager error
Alle lunedì 07 settembre 2009, roberto ha scritto:
> hello, i find the following problem while connecting to Internet by
> knetworkmanager:
>
> my system:
> 1. OS: debian lenny 5.0
> 2. kernel: 2.6.26
> 3. kde: 3.5
>
> knetworkmanager detects all available wireless networks in the area,
> using a device
> assigned to "eth1";
> then, i select my personal network and it starts to configure the
> wireless device and to assign it an IP address;
> after that few seconds, it exits reporting this error: "connection
> failure";
>
> here i paste some additional data which may hopefully help:
>
> file /etc/network/interfaces:
> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
>
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
>
>
> output of $dmesg | grep ipw2200
> [ 10.132376] ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network
> Driver, 1.2.2kmprq
> [ 10.132428] ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation
> [ 11.072075] ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network
> Connection [ 11.072156] firmware: requesting ipw2200-bss.fw
> [ 11.284236] ipw2200: Detected geography ZZM (11 802.11bg channels,
> 0 802.11a channels)
>
>
> file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
> # This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_net_rules
> # program, probably run by the persistent-net-generator.rules rules file.
> #
> # You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single line.
> # MAC addresses must be written in lowercase.
>
> SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:11:43:44:11:da",
> NAME="eth0"
>
> # PCI device 0x8086:0x4220 (ipw2200)
> SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:0e:35:af:7a:3c",
> NAME="eth1"
>
>
> if anything else needed, please tell me;
>
> thank you very much
>
Are you able to connect using other connection managers?
From my experience with ipw2200, channels above 11 are locked because of U.S
restrictions and if you live in EU you should be aware that networks can be set
to use channels 12,13. You can spot these networks but not actually connect to
them. This may be the first root of your problems.
If you are sure this is not the problem, check properly the connection
parameters like encryption method (WEP, WAP, ecc...), specifying the kind of
key
you are using or the authentication method, knetworkmanager is not able to
detect these parameters automatically.
Valerio
P.S.: I suggest you to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to store
a
different name instead of eth1, like wlan0 that's more handy.
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Re: desktop effects on PowerPC
Alle lunedì 07 settembre 2009, drz ha scritto: > Am Sonntag 06 September 2009 17:56:40 schrieb drz: > > Hi there > > > > I got a problem here with desktop effects on 4.3.1 on a Powerbook g4 > > (powerbook 5,4 / ATI Technologies Inc RV350 Mobility Radeon 9600 M10). > > > > If I activate desktop effects the x-server crashes without a possibility > > to recover, because I cant change to tty (via alt ctrl f1), no reaction > > from keyboard. > > Thee is an striped artifact instead of the mouse-pointer icon, thats the > > only symptom, I can tell of. No log entries in xorg.log nor messages or > > syslog... > > > > Same problem with kde 4.2.2. No effects since 4.1. > > > > Compiz is working. So compositing is working fine, I guess. > > But I cant set compositing to active in system settings -> desktop. > > > > fyi: Im using radeon-driver, because there is no fglrx for PowerPC. > > xserver-xorg = 7.3+20 > > xserver-xorg-core = 1.4.2-11 > > > > Is it possible to get effects to work with radeon driver? > > > > Anybody got desktop effects working on a powerbook g4?? > > > > I can provide any further info if needed & possible. > > > > greetz > > drz > > so nobodys got an idea? Should I report a bug? > No powerbook g4 users here? > > drz > I avoided to reply because I thought that you could get a better opinion since you asked exactly for a reply from a Mac G4 owner. I had a similar video card on a PC laptop (ati 9000M) and I'm pretty sure that it worked well with the open source driver and compiz, but it was not capable to run the KDE4 effects at all (it was KDE4.0 and it was painful almost for everybody). That laptop of mine now is dead and if you can cope with general suggestions, you can send here your xorg.conf, but I'm not sure your problem is related to KDE4 and that I can help you to solve it. Bye Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: desktop effects on PowerPC
Alle lunedì 07 settembre 2009, drz ha scritto: You don't need almost anything here. :) > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Generic Keyboard" > Driver "kbd" > Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "de" > Option "XkbVariant""nodeadkeys" > Option "XkbOptions""lv3:lwin_switch" > EndSection You can configure the console layout using systemsettings and choosing region/language, it should be enough. > > Section "Module" >Load "synaptics" >Load "dri" # modified > EndSection Synaptics is not needed anymore. > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Configured Mouse" > Driver "mouse" > EndSection Use evdev and get rid of this too. > Section "InputDevice" >Identifier "ADB mouse" >Driver "synaptics" >Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" >Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" >Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" >Option "SHMConfig" "true" >Option "MinSpeed" "0.30" >Option "MaxSpeed" "1" >Option "EdgeMotionMinSpeed" "200" >Option "EdgeMotionMaxSpeed" "200" >Option "FastTaps" "1" >Option "MaxTapTime" "80" >Option "AccelFactor" "0.10" >Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0" >Option "VertScrollDelta" "10" >Option "FingerLow" "1" >Option "FingerHigh" "3" >Option "LeftEdge" "80" >Option "TopEdge" "80" >Option "RightEdge" "850" >Option "BottomEdge" "560" >Option "TapButton1" "0" >Option "TapButton2" "3" >Option "TapButton3" "2" >Option "SHMConfig" "true" > EndSection You can use a special .fdi file for hal for tapping and scrolling, google for it. > Section "Device" > Identifier "Configured Video Device" > BusID "PCI:0:16:0" > Option "BusType" "PCI" > Option "DRI" "true" # modified > Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" # modified > Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" "true" > # Option "UseFBDev" "true" > EndSection Try to put more options here. I suggest to play with AGPMode, AGPFastWrite and EnablePageFlip. Dri is superfluos since it's automatically enabled. XaaNoOffscreen seems in contraddiction with AccelMethod EXA. XAA or EXA? I'm quikly reading the radeon manual so maybe I'm wrong. > Section "Extensions" > Option "Composite" "Enable" > EndSection This stanza is superfluos too IMHO, xorg is able to autoconfigure itself properly. Try removing all the xorg.conf (store a backup just in case) and start from 0 a new config. Bye Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Printing in KDE is slow with system-config-printer-kde
Hi, When system-config-printer-kde is installed and I try to print something from within a KDE4 (KDE-4.3.1) application like Okular, the print process is very very slow. The dialog window takes more than a minute to appear and the printer starts printing after a similar amount of time. Without system-config-printer-kde being installed, the dialog appears soon after the print button is pressed and the process is smooth and fast as it has usually been and as it is in other applications not relying on system-config-printer. Is it a kind of bug or a misconfiguration of my system? Cheers Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Howto change the bottom and top plasma cube?
Alle Monday 21 September 2009, BasaBuru ha scritto: > Hello: > > I'm look for a mode to change the kde icon appears in the plasma cube at > top and bottom. And i can't > > Do you now how??? > > thanks > > BasaBuru > It doesn't seem a real problem, I hope you can do better than this. :) Since I can't find any option for the cube caps, I think you must go here: /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/cubecap.png and replace the cubecap.png image with one of your choice, of course with the very same name and extension. Probably it's possible only to have just one image for both upper and lower faces. Bye Vale -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Nepomuk / Strigi index empty?
Alle Thursday 24 September 2009, Cassiano Leal ha scritto: > I'm trying to find out how to use Nepomuk and Strigi for indexing my > files. > > I have managed to make Nepomuk use Strigi (as far as I can tell), and > there is a Nepomuk icon in my system tray. > > When I click it, a window entitles "Nepomuk Strigi File Indexing - > Nepomuk Service Stub" pops up. > > In this window, I can read: > > "Nepomuk Strigi File Indexing" > > "Strigi Indexing State > Strigi is currently indexing files in folder " > > "Nepomuk Storage State > Indexed files: 0 files in index > Nepomuk store size: 813.4 MiB" > > The first thing that I noticed is that even though Nepomuk's store > size is almost 1GB, there are no files indexed. The other thing is > that it is very slow to change directories while indexing. > > Anybody has any comments on that? > > Thanks a lot, > - Cassiano > I don't think it is supposed to work at the moment. I remember that it's disabled because of redland's low performances and the difficulties to package sesame, that are two backends required for indexing (buzzword, buzzword, buzzword that I'm using without mercy). You can follow a guide, like the one in Sidux, to try nepomuk, but think that would be hard for anyone to try helping you at the moment. Good luck Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Am I alone?
Alle Wednesday 30 September 2009, Rod Lovett ha scritto: > Hi Jed, > > I am even beginning to enjoy Gnome after KDE 4.x, > Debian Lenny still uses KDE 3.5.10, and that just works. > So I less than happy with KDE 4.x also, it is bloated, ?permanently > lost the KISS principle and floundering a bit at present. Features are almost on the opposite side of simplicity. For example KDE 3.5 was really features rich, much more than KDE4. In KDE4 developers are trying to rationalize the use of databases, avoiding redundancy of programs, etc... I think they are trying to simplifies almost everything, given that they must retain some backward compatibility to help migration, they are using a completely new toolkit (QT4.5), they want to add powerful features. BTW, someone is complaining because KDE4 is not simple, someone else is complaining because it misses some features. Who is right? Alle Wednesday 30 September 2009, Manolete, ese artista... ha scritto: > I first thought you were going to complain about plasma > configurations disappearing, K3b, Kdebluetooth, Quanta, Nepomuk, > etc, in KDE 4, well, more exactly about their inexistence or > miserable status 2 years after KDE 4 began to make our "dream come > true"; I was thinking "wow, a guy who thinks we have enough eyecandy > and it's time to go efficient and useful, and has the b*lls to say > it publicly without fear to be calle a troll, or to have answers > like 'stick with Windows or buy a Mac', 'KDE is made by volunteers, > do it yourself or shut the f*ck up', and such", hehe. But now I > think you are not exactly a critic but a very "bad-lucked" guy, :-/. No, really I don't think that complaining for 3 paragraphs is such an interesting and revolutionary act to demonstrate that KDE4 is not perfect. Screaming: "you are not satisfying my needs", in the free software world is simply useless. Once I had to help debugging ide-cd driver in the kernel, I was the bug reporter and probably one of the few people around with the "right" combination of hardware able to replicate the bug. A developer, simply can't solve your bugs if they are too much exotic and require "special" hardware. In first place they must know if it's a real bug or just your misconfiguration. Thus users (experienced or not) are needed to help and collaborate in developing and fixing things. Tracking down what's going on in Jedd's PC is a duty of Jedd's himself with the help of the people in this list, when it's possible, because we are not omniscient beings. I don't know if it's nvidia to blame for Jedd's issues: I have five PCs with nvdia hardware, 3 of them with KDE4. I simply choose which one of them was able to support the latest nvidia drivers that are required to run all the special FX of KDE4. In the others I have kept KDE3 or disabled the eyecandies. They are all working quite well indeed. Maybe I'm lucky, maybe I have chosen properly what software install on the right HW and what I can pretend from it. About the complains on k3b, kdebluetooth, nepomuk, some are right some are completely wrong. k3b is still there, it's the previous version but it's fully functional, doesn't integrate well with the desktop (just from a look and feel POV), but weren't you saying that eyecandy are unimportant? Anyway, the new version is in experimental, so i think it's not too far from coming in unstable. On Kdebluetooth, you are completely right. The old one can't work and the new is completely immature. Nepumuk, it works on other distributions that don't refuse to package sesame. This can be considered a Debian issue, not a KDE4 one, even if I completely agree with the Debian decision. Given all the above, IMHO most of the criticism shown in this thread it's unfair. Bye Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Am I alone?
Alle Wednesday 30 September 2009, Manolete, ese artista... ha scritto: > Well, Integration and eyecandy aren't exactly the same thing; but you > may be right here, ok. I mentioned K3b just as an example of things > that could have been done before if all those pretty themes, > plasmoids, effects (some of them are more than eyecandy, and add > really useful features regarding usability, to be honest) had been > considered not prioritary (if such a word exists in english). > As you reminded, developers are working on what they consider interesting: this is free software in any sense. However I don't think the same developer that is taking care of "plasma", or other desktop related stuff, can easily switch to k3b. k3b is one of the most popular KDE application, despite of it there have been only a couple of developers able to bring on Trueg's work. Even if it's always possible to better organize manpower, there is a limit: you must have competent people in any given field. Bye Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is this kde4 page obsolete?
Alle Thursday 01 October 2009, Karl Schmidt ha scritto: > Please cc -- I'm off list.. > > http://kde4.debian.net/ > > (I think so?) > > This is the correct one? > > http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html > > - > --- Karl Schmidt EMail > k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. > WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street > Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 > FAX (785) 841-0434 > > Time wounds all heels. > > - > --- > The first one is related to backports, ie: KDE4.1 on Lenny the latest Debian stable release. The second webpage is referred to testing/unstable. The information there is a little outdated, and from what have been told on this list, they are searching for someone to keep it updated. Are you that "someone"? ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Can someone confirm bug #549209 in kover?
Hi Everybody, As from subject, I have found that kover, a small application for KDE4 to create booklets/covers for various kinds of CD cases is really slow to start (about a minute in my case). I'm trying to help solving it but it's difficult to understand if it is just a misconfiguration: i.e. even with a fresh user it behaves weird (sometime it's fast, sometime it's slow again in starting). All you have to do is installing kover from unstable and launching it and eventually confirm the bug report sending more info. Many thanks Valerio http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=549209 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can someone confirm bug #549209 in kover?
Alle Friday 09 October 2009, tv.deb...@googlemail.com ha scritto: > Valerio Passini wrote: > > Hi Everybody, > > > > As from subject, I have found that kover, a small application for > > KDE4 to create booklets/covers for various kinds of CD cases is > > really slow to start (about a minute in my case). I'm trying to > > help solving it but it's difficult to understand if it is just a > > misconfiguration: i.e. even with a fresh user it behaves weird > > (sometime it's fast, sometime it's slow again in starting). > > All you have to do is installing kover from unstable and launching > > it and eventually confirm the bug report sending more info. Many > > thanks > > > > Valerio > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=549209 > > Hi, just installed and tried it on Squeeze amd64 up-to-date system, > it's starting instantly (from [alt][f2] launch dialog because I > didn't get a menu icon...). > > Maybe the problem is with the cd drive, I didn't try with an audio-cd > in the drive, I'll do that later when I have one at hand. > > Tom > Thank you, Tom, for trying, you gave me an idea. :) It's not the cd driver, it's the internet connection. I will tell the maintainer what is happening. Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Searchbar in Konqueror
Alle sabato 17 ottobre 2009, Nate Bargmann ha scritto: > After a brief search I found that I needed to install the > konq-plugins package for the searchbar extension which I did. When > I go to Settings|Configure Extensions the Search Bar plugin is shown > as available and enabled. When I go to Configure Toolbars, however, > Search Bar is not one of the available options either as a seperate > tool bar or as an option for an existing toolbar (I'd like to place > it to the right of the address bar as it used to be). > > What am I missing? > > - Nate >> > I have played just a little with it and my conclusion is that the relative positions of the search and address bar are fixed: they look like a single block. Maybe there is the chance to configure it by "hand" editing a file, but I'm just wondering. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
khotkeys and media keys
Hi All, it seems that Qt has improved enough to recognize more media-keys on my keyboard. In the past trying to bind some of the media buttons would have generated an "unknown code" in qt. What is missing now is a proper action in consequence of the pressing, I have bound two keys to dolphin and amarok respectively and even if the bindings are listed in systemsettings under global shortcuts -> khotkeys, when I press the buttons nothing happens. The keys are recognized by xev and Qt as: XF86Explorer -> Browser XF86Tools -> Tools Has anyone been able to use these keycodes in combination with KDE4? Cheers Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Missing kcoloredit and kregexpeditor for KDE4
Alle mercoledì 21 ottobre 2009, Spiros Gatzounas ha scritto: > I am looking for the kcoloredit and kregexpeditor applications for > kde4 in testing/unstable but I cannot find them. > > Are they planned to be packaged and included? > > Thanks > > * > * > kcolorchooser sobstitutes kcoloredit, kregexpeditor has not been yet ported to KDE4, the previous version is working but not integrated at all with krename, kfind. Vale -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200]
Alle lunedì 09 novembre 2009, Ing. Tadeo Vargas ha scritto: > HI > > As you may now by know, there is a bug regarding with Radeon Xpress > 200 chipset in kernel 2.6.30-* the bug number is # 514286 > Same thing happened to me, i upgraded to the kernel 2.6.30-* version > and when rebooted my Desktop has no X at all. > System hangs and i have to push the reset button to reboot it. > > If you are not the indicated persons to ask this, please point me in > the right direction. > Or if you have any work around please let me know. > > Regards, This is the wrong list for sure and if there is now an open bug you should look there to solve your problem. Other possible useful sources of information include: The Debian X.org mailing list http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/ The Debian kernel http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/ My hint for you as a temporary solution is just to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and change from driver radeon/ati to vesa. Your X should be back after that. Bye Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel doesn't close when run on KDE
Alle domenica 22 novembre 2009, Manolete, ese artista... ha scritto: > Hi. > > Any of you have experienced the annoying issue of Iceweasel not > really closing after quit it, hear how your computer's fan starts to > blow furiously and go checking system monitor to see that > firefox-bin or xulrunner are still running and eating your > processor? or closing IW, launch it again and get an irritating > message: "Iceweasel is already running, but is not responding. To > open a new window, you must first close the existing Iceweasel > process, or restart your system."? > Hi, Thinking that your purpose is to have the IW look-and-feel well integrated in KDE and gtk-qt-engine is the culprit for your problems, maybe you are interested in this theme for Firefox: http://ramonantonio.net/kde-firefox/ I'm using it since the past month without any problem so far, it's worth a try IMO. Bye Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel doesn't close when run on KDE [OT]
Alle domenica 22 novembre 2009, Manolete, ese artista... ha scritto: > e, but I use dark backgrounds and light fonts (I cant stand much time > in front of my screen with all that white and light grey without > feeling visually fatigued, besides dark colors save some minutes > when using battery) > If you have an LCD screen (I'm just guessing since you told you are trying to spare your battery) and not a plasma screen, you are not going to save energy choosing a dark colors set because the screen has a back- light always on. Bye Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: help
Alle mercoledì 25 novembre 2009, Manolete, ese artista... ha scritto: > Sorry for my previous message. My intention was to reply the author > privately, but I clicked the normal reply button. > No problem, now we know (at least those who speak a Romance language) that you have kindly explained to didier what to do/do not in a mailing list, so that no further replies are needed. Ciao Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE + Compiz question
Alle Saturday 28 November 2009, B. Alexander ha scritto: > I'm not sure this is the right place to ask this question, but here > goes... > > I just built a brand new sid box at my new job. On that box, I am > running KDE 4.3.2 and using Compiz as a window manager. I know KDE4 > has its own compositing engine, but to be honest, last time I tried > the internal compositing, it took far more CPU power to run than > Compiz did, plus there are a couple of features I need that were not > included KDE's compositing last time I tried it. > > My machine at work is a similar configuration to what I have on my > home box, except on my home box, which was built many moons ago, the > compiz-fusion or beryl in the Debian repos was 0.5.x when the latest > was 0.7.x, so I used the script that builds the latest and greatest > from the git repository. > > On the work box, I used the standard Debian repos...However, emerald > is nowhere to be found, so I am unable to change the window borders > to anything but the rather bland default that I got when I turned on > window decorations in ccsm. > > Anyone running compiz with kde4? How do I change the window borders > under KDE if Emerald is no longer a part of Compiz? Apologies if > this was the wrong place to ask... > > Thanks, > --b > Posting many times the same message is not going to help you, on the opposite you risk to be boring. Compiz is not part of KDE and emerald, AFAIK, is not even part of Debian at all and this is why you can't find its package. The only help you can get here is how to have compiz instead of Kwin. In systemsettings -> Default Applications -> Window Manager -> Use a different window manager -> choose whatever WM you want. The other stuff you are looking for is not KDE related and as such, it's completely off-topic in this mailing list and you won't probably get any help here. Bye Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: kde 4.3.4 is building for unstable now ;-)
Alle sabato 12 dicembre 2009, Modestas Vainius ha scritto: > > On my nvidia (proprietary drivers) box I've had to > > revert back to the vanilla 'nv' drivers to resolve the > > permanent snow (over whole screen) look. I tried: > > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.36-pkg1.run > > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.32-pkg1.run > > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.42-pkg1.run > > You clearly ask for trouble installing proprietary nvidia drivers > non-debian way. Probably mesa was upgraded breaking "installation" > produced with nvidia installer. Switch to the debian way. > I agree with Modestas Vainius because in my laptop there are the latest nvidia drivers together with the new KDE and without the problems you have reported. Valerio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
