Re: Update of debconf needed for Stable

2008-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 02 March 2008, Frans Pop wrote:
> The attached patch series is what IMO should be backported. It includes
> the following commits (this is on top of the patch that was already
> backported in the 1.5.11etch1 release):
>   * debconf-apt-progress: Add --no-progress option intended to be used
> by apt-install in d-i.
>   * debconf-apt-progress: Notice if the child exited abnormally, and exit
> nonzero.
>   * add --dlwaypoint option (without the cancel changes)
>   * debconf-apt-progress sometimes gets captured by buggy daemons,
> causing tasksel to hang because $debconf_command_eof never becomes
> true. STATUS_READ should be the last fd to close, so checking
> $status_eof is sufficient (LP: #141601).
> The last patch also looks interesting from a stability PoV.

In addition to these commit r2266 should probably be included as it avoids 
some annoying errors in the syslog:
  * Fix use of 'next' rather than 'return' in debconf-apt-progress
handle_status.

> As these patches cannot be backported in time for beta1, I have also
> prepared a new version of the etch-support udeb that includes an updated
> debconf-apt-progress with these patches and that diverts the Etch version
> debconf-apt-progress for the duration of the installation (from
> post-base-installer to finish-install).

This has been done, but Phil later discovered that this solution does not 
cover one particular case: when stable is installed using LVM or RAID, 
apt-install is called just before the divert is done and this makes the 
progress bar disappear during the last part of base-installer. So a stable 
update is very much desired.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: OEM-Install for Debian?

2008-03-12 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Wolfgang Lonien ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> I'm no DD myself, but would offer help - I've read the Debian
> documentations and made some backports so far (for private use only). I
> hope that this step would also help with the consideration of other
> vendors to offer pre-installed systems, and spread Debian even further.

Actually, helping out the D-I development and, particularly some
features (including adding some features) is pretty easy even without
being a DD. It just requires people to read available docs (in
installer/doc in D-I SVN, particularly in devel/ and talks/).

Subscribing to -boot is nearly mandatory in case you want an easier
interaction.

Some long-term commitment is also wished as we prefer avoiding to add
features that we won't be able to maintain in the future...

Please note that this answer is pretty general. I have no real clue
about oem-installer but I "feel" like it could be interesting..:)

> 
> In case of answers, please CC me because I'm currently not subscribed to
> the debian-boot mailing list.
> 
> Sorry for my denglish...


It is better than my Frenglish, don't worry..:)

Also wait for some other answers, particularly more
technically-skilled, to give you further advice about your suggestion.




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Bug#383611: barony backpack

2008-03-12 Thread gill spike
Melt away de . bts while you still can!

http://geocities.com/blakemcgee92


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Bug#328498: aureomycin anthropomorphic

2008-03-12 Thread hodge elaine
Get out of de / bts tomorrow

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Bug#470522: Kernel oopses before installation on my T41

2008-03-12 Thread Frank Bauer
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Glad to hear you got the system running. However, that does not solve the
> issue with the installation. We can now either close this report or
> investigate it further. If we want to investigate it further, we'll need
> additional info from you.

Let's try to solve it, because I have more of simillar machines (T40, T42)
to install.

> You did not mention a kernel oops anymore. Does that mean that it did not
> happen when you tried again, or did you just not copy the info from it?

When using the lenny installer, it happened all the time. I'm not sure what
it read, because it was immediately replaced by the first screen of
the installer.

> One other thing you could do is try the installer in the text mode. Boot
> with 'expert DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text'.
> And try without framebuffer: 'expert DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text fb=false'.

Will try when I get to the machine in the evening. Actually I think it might be
an issue with framebuffer, because IIRC, it is turned on just before starting
the installer itself.

Frank



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Bug#470601: installation-report: Debian Testing on Virtual PC 2007

2008-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 470601 debian-installer-utils
thanks

On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Franklin Piat wrote:
> Comments/Problems:
> Except that I had to pass i8042.noloop=1 as kernel parameter (bug
> 433815).
>
> However, Eventhough I passed i8042.noloop argument at the CD boot prompt:

Please check if the parameter is included in /etc/modprobe.d/local (I expect 
not).

If not, try passing i8042.noloop=1 instead (as you yourself indicated in the 
other BR :-).
That should result in the parameter being added in /etc/modprobe.d/local. I 
have just tested this, and this works for me:
# cat /etc/modprobe.d/local
# [some comments]
options i8042 noloop=1

However, I'm not sure if that is sufficient in this case as i8042 support is 
probably compiled into the kernel. If that does not work, please let us 
know and we'll see if we can improve the handling of parameters for modules 
that are compiled in.

(You can of course also test whether having the option in modprobe.d on your 
installed system: create the file and temporarily remove the option from 
the grub boot line.)

> I don't know if it's related, but noloop isn't listed by :

Should not be related. It's also missing in the kernel documentation (in
Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt). You may want to add that in the 
upstream bugreport.

Cheers,
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Bug#470614: leaves possibility to login as root without password

2008-03-12 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
Package: debootstrap
Version: 1.0.8
Severity: normal

Hello.

Since debootstrap is often (at least by me) used to create chrooted
environment for some services I'm threating this problem as rather
important.

Fresh debootstrapped system leaves empty password for root.

It should at least put asterisk in /etc/shadow for that user.

Friend of mine set up chrooted environment for postfix installation. He
used MySQL as a backend for managing users and he made his best to ensure
such system won't be open relay.

He didn't even think that by default root account has no password, and this
way some spammer sent 40k mails by this installation. Spammer used root
account and authorized using empty password.

I'm not sure whether it should be fixed in debootstrap itself or in
base-files (this package afaik creates /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow).

During normal installation user is asked for root password that's why
I chose debootstrap for this bugreport.

regards
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Bug#470423: debian-installer: CDROM drive lockup during multiple CD installation

2008-03-12 Thread Philip Charles
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Frans Pop wrote:
> Thanks a lot for the additional info.
>
> On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Philip Charles wrote:
> > At the switch-over from scanning by cdset to install software.
>
> Right. From the logs I can see that it is actually at the beginning of
> install software. The configuration of apt was completed when the loop
> happened.
>
> I saw a similar problem myself recently, but for me the loop happened
> the first time the installer needed to switch from CD1 to CD2, so quite
> a bit further along in the install software step.
>
> From your log I can tell that both issues have the same root cause, and
> that was already fixed in version 1.18 of pkgsel (you were using 1.17),
> which will be included in the upcoming Beta1 release of the installer.
>
> However, I am still puzzled as to what exactly caused your installation
> to behave so different from mine.
>
> Let's look at your log in detail.
>
**
> Here apt-cdrom has completed scanning CD 5.
>
> I would guess that you selected "No" here and pressed  without
> actually changing the CD.
> Is that correct? Or did you insert CD 1 immediately after CD 5 was
> scanned?

CD5 was still in the drive at this point

Insert CD1 - hit return (still cdset)
[a couple of things happen.  To quick to record]

Is (was) this the problem?
>
> Mar 11 10:45:39 kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
> Mar 11 10:45:39 kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
>
> This is where the installer mounts the CD to check if CD1 is inserted.
>
> Mar 11 10:46:04 load-install-cd: E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
>
> And this is strange. If CD 1 is not inserted at this point, it should
> not be trying to mount it but it should instead prompt you to insert CD
> 1. And if CD 1 was inserted, there's no reason why the mount should
> fail.

The perversity of inanimate objects.

>
> Can you remember what exactly happened here?

Insert CD1 - hit return (still cdset)
[a couple of things happen.  To quick to record]
>
> Mar 11 10:47:25 kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
> Mar 11 10:47:25 kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
> Mar 11 10:47:26 kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
> Mar 11 10:47:26 kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
>
> A CD gets mounted two more times, and I'd guess that the second time it
> is recognized as CD 1 and the installation continues.
>
> Mar 11 10:47:26 apt-setup: warning:
> /usr/lib/apt-setup/generators/50mirror returned error code 1;
> discarding output
> Mar 11 10:47:26 apt-setup: warning:
> /usr/lib/apt-setup/generators/90services-select returned error code 30;
> discarding output
> Mar 11 10:47:26 apt-setup: warning:
> /usr/lib/apt-setup/generators/91security output added commented out
>
> This is where the apt configuration is finished and the main menu
> starts the software installation component.
>
> Mar 11 10:47:28 main-menu[961]: INFO: Falling back to the package
> description for auto-install Mar 11 10:47:28 main-menu[961]: INFO:
> Falling back to the package description for ai-choosers Mar 11 10:47:28
> main-menu[961]: INFO: Menu item 'pkgsel' selected Mar 11 10:47:28
> apt-install: umount: Couldn't umount /cdrom: Invalid argument
>
> Here is the start of the actual cause of the loop. The CD gets
> unmounted 2 times (the second time fails).

Would have  been better?
>
> Mar 11 10:47:29 in-target: Reading package lists...
> Mar 11 10:47:29 in-target:
> Mar 11 10:47:29 in-target: Building dependency tree...
> Mar 11 10:47:29 in-target:
> Mar 11 10:47:29 in-target: Reading state information...
> Mar 11 10:47:29 in-target:
> Mar 11 10:47:30 in-target: laptop-detect is already the newest version.
> Mar 11 10:47:30 in-target: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove
> and 0 not upgraded. Mar 11 10:47:30 kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions:
> Microsoft Joliet Level 3 Mar 11 10:47:30 kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions:
> RRIP_1991A
>
> The installer again checks that is is indeed CD 1.
>
> Mar 11 10:47:31 kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
> Mar 11 10:47:31 kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
>
> And the real cause of the loop: the CD gets mounted while it should not
> be. This (the second umount and this mount) is what was fixed in 1.18.
>
> [...]
> Mar 11 10:48:53 in-target: Media change: please insert the disc labeled
> Mar 11 10:48:53 in-target:  'Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ -
> Official Snapshot i386 CD Binary-1 20080308-20:17'
> Mar 11 10:48:53 in-target: in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
>
> This is probably the start of your loop. The strange thing here is that
> CD 1 should already be inserted here, so why is the installer asking
> for it?
>
> Mar 11 10:48:53 in-target: Media change: please insert the disc labeled
> Mar 11 10:48:53 in-target:  'Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ -
> Official Snapshot i386 CD Binary-1 20080308-20:17'
> Mar 11 10:48:53 in-target: in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
>
> This is apparently where you ran eject. The in

Bug#470423: debian-installer: CDROM drive lockup during multiple CD installation

2008-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Philip Charles wrote:
> Let us see how 1.18 behaves.  Will is be used for next week's snapshot?

Yes, it will be included in the next weekly build. We've been trying to get 
one done the last few days, but there are hardware problems with the 
machine that builds them.

> I will do another test installion when it is available

That's great! Thanks in advance.
Let's leave the report open then until you can report the results.

Cheers,
FJP



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Re: [RFR] Major localechooser revamp

2008-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 10 March 2008, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Interesting idea. I vote for the latter. Such file shouldn't be that hard
> to maintain. Only drawback: there's still the possibility that the backup
> language itself is incomplete and then the installer falls back to
> English...:-)

Attached a patch that implements this.
There are separate template files for each language that has multiple fall 
backs defined. These only need to be translated for that specific language 
and will thus not be included in the normal l10n infrastructure.
The templates are appended to the templates file at build time by a new 
script: mktemplates.warnings. The script warns about languages for which 
these strings are missing.

I've also split the 5 new templates from the previous patch into separate 
strings. There are now only two templates which are "assembled" at run 
time. In part this was needed for the language-specific templates anyway, 
but it also prevents duplication of strings (and their translations) in the 
templates file, and thus reduces initrd size and memory usage.

I'd like to get at least two languages translated for additional testing 
before committing, but first is a review of the various English strings.


JFYI the changes in size (without translations for new strings) for 
localechooser between 1.46 and 2.00:
./DEBIAN/templates [-343171-] {+338411+}   <--- smaller, but will grow some
./etc/shortlists 66
./etc/SUPPORTED-short 3750
./usr/bin/languagemap [-905-] {+862+}
./usr/bin/localechooser [-15437-] {+16710
./usr/bin/translation-check 1279+} <--- new
./usr/lib/finish-install.d/05localechooser 2390
./usr/lib/post-base-installer.d/05localechooser [-3020-] {+3008+}
./usr/share/localechooser/languagelist [-2836-] {+2264   <--- smaller
./usr/share/localechooser/languagelist.data.gz 1439+}<--- new

Cheers,
FJP

commit 5ac1f5d6ccb159b7cbc7ff2f764dc9e5d94337aa
Author: Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   Sat Mar 8 18:27:22 2008 +0100

Display warning if translation is not complete

Based on a translation status file included in the initrd at build time.
The severity of the warning depends on how much is untranslated based on
the D-I sublevels and taking into account what architecture is being
installed.

Note that incomplete translations in components not in D-I SVN are not
taken into account.

diff --git a/packages/localechooser/Makefile b/packages/localechooser/Makefile
index 452bbac..e8896d2 100644
--- a/packages/localechooser/Makefile
+++ b/packages/localechooser/Makefile
@@ -14,8 +14,9 @@ debian/iso-codes:
 debian/iso-3166.tab:
 	./iso3166tab.py /usr/share/xml/iso-codes/iso_3166.xml >debian/iso-3166.tab
 
-debian/templates: debian/templates.base debian/short-tmp/shortlists
+debian/templates: $(LIST) debian/templates.base debian/short-tmp/shortlists
 	./mktemplates.shortlist
+	./mktemplates.warnings $(LIST) debian/templates
 
 debian/SUPPORTED-short:
 	./get-SUPPORTED
diff --git a/packages/localechooser/debian/localechooser.templates-in b/packages/localechooser/debian/localechooser.templates-in
index bc2eafb..aabc329 100644
--- a/packages/localechooser/debian/localechooser.templates-in
+++ b/packages/localechooser/debian/localechooser.templates-in
@@ -7,8 +7,9 @@ Type: text
 # :sl1:
 _Description: Choose language
 
-Template: localechooser/no-translations-yet
+Template: localechooser/translation/none-yet
 Type: note
+# :sl1:
 Description: Translations temporarily not available
  Because of the low available space on the installation media, translations
  will not be available immediately.
@@ -16,8 +17,9 @@ Description: Translations temporarily not available
  The installation will continue in English until the installer
  loads packages that include translations from a CD or the network.
 
-Template: localechooser/no-language-select
+Template: localechooser/translation/no-select
 Type: note
+# :sl1:
 Description: Language selection no longer possible
  At this point it is no longer possible to change the language for the
  installation, but you can still change the country or locale.
@@ -25,6 +27,64 @@ Description: Language selection no longer possible
  To select a different language you will need to abort this installation
  and reboot the installer.
 
+Template: localechooser/translation/warn-severe
+Type: boolean
+Default: false
+# :sl1:
+#flag:translate!:3,4
+Description: Continue the installation in the selected language?
+ The translation of the installer is incomplete for the selected language.
+ .
+ ${TXT-WARN}
+ .
+ ${TXT-ABORT}
+
+Template: localechooser/translation/warn-light
+Type: boolean
+Default: true
+# :sl1:
+#flag:translate!:3
+Description: Continue the installation in the selected language?
+ The translation of the installer is not fully complete for the selected
+ language.
+ .
+ ${TXT-WARN}
+
+Template: localechooser/translation/text/warn_incomplete
+Type: text
+# :sl1:
+Description: This means that there is a significant chance that

Preparing a new aptitude release.

2008-03-12 Thread Daniel Burrows
  Hello, everyone.

  I've got enough bug-fixes and new features into the aptitude source
tree that I think it's time for a new release.  This includes:

  * Use the same configuration option as apt to disable Recommends,
so --without-recommends works again. (#448561)
  * Make "update" work even if there's a problem in the local package
lists. (#468751)
  * Fix "safe-upgrade" in some cases where you would have to run it
twice in a row to get all the upgrades.
  * Eliminate some cases where aptitude would break holds and forbids
(I need an ABI-changing patch against apt to fix the rest).
  * Get the codebase compiling with g++-4.3.
  * Fix "aptitude show" to not reverse the "automatically installed" flag.
  * Support for the centralized debtags infrastructure
(makes startup quicker by dropping the "loading tags..." step)
  * Support for multi-level package descriptions from Paul Donohue,
which incidentally removes the hardcoding of the standard list
of descriptions (hopefully this will make life easier for
maintainers in derived distributions).

  I heard that the installer team is preparing a release, so I won't
upload just yet.  Will I disrupt anyone if I release after the installer
beta is finalized?

   Thanks,
  Daniel


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Bug#289756: A degree can help you

2008-03-12 Thread Bernice Drake

Give your career a makeover with a new degree

http://univ4u.com




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Bug#334609: apocalyptic anthracite

2008-03-12 Thread biff loren
Get away from de / bts ASAP

http://geocities.com/mercer_marshall


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Re: Preparing a new aptitude release.

2008-03-12 Thread Otavio Salvador
Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   I heard that the installer team is preparing a release, so I won't
> upload just yet.  Will I disrupt anyone if I release after the installer
> beta is finalized?

Hello Daniel,

Yes, you're right. It's better to hold your upload until we get Beta1
released. This should happen really soon.

I can ping you once it's safe to upload.

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Bug#470522: Kernel oopses before installation on my T41

2008-03-12 Thread Frank Bauer
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  And try without framebuffer: 'expert DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text fb=false'.

It still fails with framebuffer off, but the text frontend allows me to see the
message in full:

Starting system log daemon: syslogd, klogd.
BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 3020320c
 printing eip:
*pde = 
Oops:  [#1]
Modules linked in: thermal processor fan pcmcia floppy ipw2100 ieee80211
ieee80211_crypt firmwareclass e1000 yenta socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core
ehci_hcd uhci_hcd usbcore
CPU: 0
EIP: 0060:[]  Not tainted VLI
EFLAGS: 00010246 (2.6.22-3-486 #1)
EIP is at linkwatch_run_queue+0x68/0x16e
eax: dfa48000  ebx: 30203020  ecx: dff4c4c0  edx: c146f030
esi: 0002  edi:   ebp:  30203020  esp:dfa49f74
ds: 007b  es: 007b  fs:  gs:  ss: 0068
Process events/0 (pid: 5, ti=dfa48000 task=c146b570 task.ti=dfa48000)
Stack: dff39840 0246 dff4e780 c0334ce0 dff39840 c0334ce0 c024c17a 
   c024c197 c012558d c146b67c 19610676 000d dff39840 dff39840 c0125b8c
   dfa49fd0 c0125c3e  c146b570 c01280d4 dfa49fc8 dfa49fc8 dff39840
Call Trace:
 [] linkwatch_event+0x0/0x22
 [] linkwatch_event+0x1d/0x22
 [] run_workqueue+0x7d/0x103
 [] worker_thread+0x0/0xbc
 [] worker_thread+0xb2/0xbc
 [] autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x35
 [] kthread+0x36/0x5a
 [] kthread+0x0/0x5a
 [] kernel_thread_helper+0x7/0x10
 ===
Code: fa 90 8d b4 26 00 00 00 00 90 8b 1d 78 9d 3c c0 c7 05 78 9d 3c c0 00 00 00
 00 fb 90 8d b4 26 00 00 00 00 90 e9 e1 00 00 00 85 ff <8b> ab ec 01 00 00 74 17
 89 d8 e8 79 fe ff ff 85 c0 75 0c 89 d8
EIP: [] __linkwatch_run_queue+0x68/0x16e SS:ESP 0068:dfa49f74
(process:996): INFO: kbd-mode: setting console mode to Unicode (UTF-8)

Debian installer main menu
---
all 10 menu options follow, I'm too lazy to retype them after the previous dump
and then two more messages appear:

Marking TSC unstable due to: possible TSC halt in C2.
Time: acpi_pm clocksource has been installed.


Frank



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Re: [RFR] Major localechooser revamp

2008-03-12 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

I'll comment on templates only. The implementation seems OK to handle
as the specific parts (non-gettext translations) are minimized and we
should easily get translations for them.

> +Template: localechooser/translation/text/warn_incomplete
> +Type: text
> +# :sl1:
> +Description: This means that there is a significant chance that some dialogs 
> will be displayed in Englishinstead .
 ^^^

Missing space


> +Template: localechooser/translation/text/maybe-abort
> +Type: text
> +# :sl1:
> +Description: If you chose not to continue, you will be given the option of 
> selecting a different language, or you can abort the installation.
> +

"chose" or "choose" ? I'd say "choose" as this refers to the action is
now prompted to take





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Re: [RFR] Major localechooser revamp

2008-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Christian Perrier wrote:
> I'll comment on templates only. The implementation seems OK to handle
> as the specific parts (non-gettext translations) are minimized and we
> should easily get translations for them.
>
> > +Description: This means that there is a significant chance that some
> > dialogs will be displayed in Englishinstead .
>
> Missing space

No, not missing. It just spontaneously moved to after the word ;-)

> "chose" or "choose" ? I'd say "choose" as this refers to the action is
> now prompted to take

Fixed.

OK. So that means we need some translations of the special templates for 
testing. I'll mail -i18n for that.

Thanks.


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[D-I] Warnings for incomplete translations - some translations needed

2008-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
Hi all,

Now that the infrastructure for sublevels has been implemented, we can warn 
users if the language they have selected is not fully translated.
The advantage of that is that we can be a bit more relaxed about having 
translations at (near) 100% for a release because the user will be warned 
in advance that he may encounter some strings in a different language and 
(s)he will have the option of either continuing, switching to a different 
language, or aborting the installation before e.g. his harddisk has been 
erased...

The warnings are in 5 different levels of severity depending on the sublevel 
which is incomplete. One example of a warning is:
  The translation of the installer is incomplete for the selected language.
  This means that there is a significant chance that some dialogs will be
  displayed in English instead.
  Unless you have a good understanding of the alternative language, it is
  recommended to either select a different language or abort the
  installation.
  Continue the installation in the selected language?

As you can see, the warnings include the language that the installer will 
fall back to. For most languages this will always be English, but a few 
have other fallbacks that are tried first.
For these languages we have added extra strings that list these fallback 
languages. These extra strings will not be included in the normal l10n 
processes, but will be maintained separately.


Request for *ONLY* Chinese and Portuguese translators
-
In order to do some final testing, I would appreciate translations of these 
extra strings *only for the following languages*:
- Simplified Chinese
- Traditional Chinese
- Portuguese
- Brazilian Portuguese

Please send me (either privately or on the list) the translation the 
attached file that ends in your language code; i.e: you only need to 
translate the strings in one file.
See the comments at the top of the file for instructions.


Background info
---
An overview of the new changes in localechooser can be found here:
- http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2008/03/msg00290.html
The current patch for the warnings for incomplete translations is here:
- http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2008/03/msg00385.html

Thanks in advance,
FJP

# The commented text in the templates below should be translated into
# *Portuguese* in the Description field (on a single line!).
# After that has been done, the templates can be uncommented (the
# example text should remain commented!).

#Template: localechooser/translation/text/warn_incomplete/pt
#Type: text
# This means that there is a significant chance that some dialogs will be
# displayed in Brazilian Portuguese or, if that is also not available, in
# English. 
#Description:

#Template: localechooser/translation/text/warn_normal-ok/pt
#Type: text
# If you do anything other than a purely default installation, there is a
# real chance that some dialogs will be displayed in Brazilian Portuguese
# or, if that is also not available, in English.
#Description:

#Template: localechooser/translation/text/warn_partial/pt
#Type: text
# If you continue the installation in the selected language, most dialogs
# should be displayed correctly but - especially if you use the more
# advanced options of the installer - some may be displayed in Brazilian
# Portuguese or, if that is also not available, in English.
#Description:

#Template: localechooser/translation/text/warn_mostly-ok/pt
#Type: text
# If you continue the installation in the selected language, dialogs should
# normally be displayed correctly but - especially if you use the more
# advanced options of the installer - there is a slight chance some may be
# displayed in Brazilian Portuguese or, if that is also not available, in
# English.
#Description:
# The commented text in the templates below should be translated into
# *Simplified Chinese* in the Description field (on a single line!).
# After that has been done, the templates can be uncommented (the
# example text should remain commented!).

#Template: localechooser/translation/text/warn_incomplete/zh_CN
#Type: text
# This means that there is a significant chance that some dialogs will be
# displayed in Traditional Chinese or, if that is also not available, in
# English. 
#Description:

#Template: localechooser/translation/text/warn_normal-ok/zh_CN
#Type: text
# If you do anything other than a purely default installation, there is a
# real chance that some dialogs will be displayed in Traditional Chinese or,
# if that is also not available, in English.
#Description:

#Template: localechooser/translation/text/warn_partial/zh_CN
#Type: text
# If you continue the installation in the selected language, most dialogs
# should be displayed correctly but - especially if you use the more
# advanced options of the installer - some may be displayed in Traditional
# Chinese or, if that is also not available, in English.
#Description:

#Template: localecho

Re: [RFR] Major localechooser revamp

2008-03-12 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> OK. So that means we need some translations of the special templates for 
> testing. I'll mail -i18n for that.


Specifically pinging Petter for the Norwegian-related things might
help.

Particularly as we really need a Sami translation there and that will
directly benefit Debian-Edu and their implementations in Norway.




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Re: [D-I] Warnings for incomplete translations - some translations needed

2008-03-12 Thread ardoRic
Hi there,

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Please send me (either privately or on the list) the translation the
>  attached file that ends in your language code; i.e: you only need to
>  translate the strings in one file.
>  See the comments at the top of the file for instructions.

I am already translating these messages to Portuguese, but am unsure
on what to do once i finish it.

It says that, and i quote,

# After that has been done, the templates can be uncommented (the
# example text should remain commented!).

My first message now looks like this (still pending review, so it may
not be final):

#Template: localechooser/translation/text/warn_incomplete/pt
#Type: text
# This means that there is a significant chance that some dialogs will be
# displayed in Brazilian Portuguese or, if that is also not available, in
# English.
#Description:
 Isto significa que há a hipótese que algumas das questões colocadas
sejam mostradas em Português do Brasil ou, se também essa língua não
estiver disponível, em Inglês.

Did I put it on the right place, or should I have written it in front
of Description ?

I take it In the end it should be a little bit like this:

Template: localechooser/translation/text/warn_incomplete/pt
Type: text
# This means that there is a significant chance that some dialogs will be
# displayed in Brazilian Portuguese or, if that is also not available, in
# English.
Description:
 Isto significa que há a hipótese que algumas das questões colocadas
sejam mostradas em Português do Brasil ou, se também essa língua não
estiver disponível, em Inglês.


am i right ?

Best Regards,
Ricardo Silva



Re: [D-I] Warnings for incomplete translations - some translations needed

2008-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, ardoRic wrote:
> I am already translating these messages to Portuguese, but am unsure
> on what to do once i finish it.

Great!

> My first message now looks like this (still pending review, so it may
> not be final):
[...]

You were close. It should eventually look like this:
Template: localechooser/translation/text/warn_incomplete/pt
Type: text
# This means that there is a significant chance that some dialogs will be
# displayed in Brazilian Portuguese or, if that is also not available, in
# English.
Description: Isto significa que há a hipótese que algumas das questões 
colocadas sejam mostradas em Português do Brasil ou, se também essa língua 
não estiver disponível, em Inglês.

The last (after Description:) should be all on one line (no returns).

But don't worry about that too much. I can fix up any minor issues like 
that.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: OEM-Install for Debian?

2008-03-12 Thread Eddy Petrișor

Wolfgang Lonien wrote:

Hi Matt & dear DDs,


Hello,


I could need something like Matt Zimmermans OEM-Installer (which Ubuntu
has since 2k5 or so) in Debian. For an explanation, please see
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview


This *looks* really like is Debian Installer with some additional module and some supplementary 
package. (Note that I said "looks", but I haven't dug into the issue to see if it really is D-I).


If, indeed, is a modified Debian Installer, I guess we could get the D-I module and add an option to 
boot with such an option. Ditto for the package(s) in the system.


Matt, most likely, can confirm or infirm the assumptions above :-) .


Background: I just started the European branch of ZaReason, Inc., and we
sell hardware (desktops and laptops, mostly) pre-configured with Ubuntu,
and - since I jumped in - also with Debian.


Cool! I would really love to see systems with Debian preinstalled here in 
Romania.


I'm no DD myself, but would offer help - I've read the Debian
documentations and made some backports so far (for private use only). I
hope that this step would also help with the consideration of other
vendors to offer pre-installed systems, and spread Debian even further.


It is not necessary to be a DD.


In case of answers, please CC me because I'm currently not subscribed to
the debian-boot mailing list.


done


Thanks for your interest, your time, and for all the efforts you put
into projects like Debian and Ubuntu.


Thanks for giving Free Software a chance in the pre-installed OS battle!

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Bug#470522: Kernel oopses before installation on my T41

2008-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Frank Bauer wrote:
> It still fails with framebuffer off, but the text frontend allows me to
> see the message in full:

So now we do know what the exact problem is and it's clearly a kernel issue.

It looks similar to this report:
http://www.kerneloops.org/guilty.php?guilty=run_workqueue&version=2.6.22-release&start=1474560&end=1507327&class=b

It is strange though that you don't see it on the installed system, though 
that could be a difference between the 486 and 686 flavors.

The next question is what to do about it, and I'm afraid that we're kind of 
stuck there. We're very close to the beta1 release and fixing the kernel 
for that is just not an option anymore. Upstream has stopped maintenance 
for 2.6.22, so reporting the issue there does not make much sense.
The Debian kernel team already wanted to be rid of 2.6.22 (and that will 
happen immediately after the D-I beta), and so is unlikely to want to look 
into this, let alone fix it.

Seems to me that the best course of action is to see this issue as an 
erratum for 2.6.22 and check whether it's fixed as soon as we switch the 
installer to 2.6.24 (ASAP after the beta).
If it is still reproducible with 2.65.24, it should be reported upstream.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#269878: accord anybody

2008-03-12 Thread dabney loke
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2008-03-12 Thread brander carolyn
Take Prescriptoins tomorrow
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2008-03-12 Thread gordy ronitt
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2008-03-12 Thread hayes gamble
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2008-03-12 Thread gunner annalena
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Bug#283016: audacity anomalous

2008-03-12 Thread beowulf source
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2008-03-12 Thread giuseppe natalie
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2008-03-12 Thread hunter meltin
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2008-03-12 Thread esdras colleen
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Re: OEM-Install for Debian?

2008-03-12 Thread Otavio Salvador
Eddy Petrișor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This *looks* really like is Debian Installer with some additional
> module and some supplementary package. (Note that I said "looks", but
> I haven't dug into the issue to see if it really is D-I).

Yes, it's.

> If, indeed, is a modified Debian Installer, I guess we could get the
> D-I module and add an option to boot with such an option. Ditto for
> the package(s) in the system.
>
> Matt, most likely, can confirm or infirm the assumptions above :-) .

I've done a look on the past and I'm willing to work on that again
since it's very important for Debian and for vendors.

Hope to be able to do that soon, if nobody does it before...

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2008-03-12 Thread doy royal
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Bug#470707: Kernel hangs during boot (IA64)

2008-03-12 Thread Peter Chubb

Package: installation-reports


Boot method: network
Image version: 
http://people.debian.org/~dannf/d-i/images/daily/netboot/netboot.tar.gz
Date: Thu Mar 13 11:17:05 EST 2008


I used the netboot install method for three different machines.

For the RX6600 (8-core Montecito) everything worked fine (apart from the
relatime bug that everyone knows about, and that you can't specify
options to mkfs.xfs to tune it for bigger partitions: I just created a
small root partition, and made the other partitions manually after
installation was finished)

For the RX2200 (two-core McKinley) the kernel hangs halfway through the boot;
it appears to have done something dastardly to the console (I'm telnetting
in through the management console ethernet adapter).  The only way to
restore console access for the next boot is to remove the power cable
from the wall; resetting the machine and the BMC is not sufficient.
The last thing on the console is:
-
:e0:01.1: ttyS3 at MMIO 0xf405 (irq=51) is a 16550A
Couldn't register serial port :e0:01.1: -28
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
TCP bic registered
NET: Reg
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For an i2000 (Merced), running on the VGA console, the initial splash
screen looks awful ... it seems to have lots of weird characters that
don't display on it.  And the kernel seems to hang straight after
elilo has loaded it.


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Re: Debian Installer Lenny Beta1: Status Update 4

2008-03-12 Thread Otavio Salvador
Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> +--+---+
> |   Date   | What happens  |
> +--+---+
> |March 8, 2008 |test of images starts  | <=
> +--+---+
> |March 12, 2008|final image builds |
> +--+---+
> |March 16, 2008|planned release date   |
> +--+---+

Currently we're trying to get final images built but the building
machine has hardware issues and it's being worked on to get it solves
as soon as possible.

I'll mail you all once it has been solved and images are available for
final tests.

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Bug#470707: Etch installer has same behaviour

2008-03-12 Thread Peter Chubb

For what it's worth, I tried the `etch' installer from
http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-ia64/current/images/netboot.tar.gz
on the RX2200 with the same result.

I can boot via DHCP with a home-built zx1defconfig top-of-tree kernel
from kernel.org.

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Bug#416542: affidavit abelian

2008-03-12 Thread kele endah
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