Re: Stus-List Important a C&C into Canada from US/ used sails 33 mkII

[Richard N. Bush]

Sorry, no racing sails


Richard

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255



-Original Message-
From: Bruno Lachance 
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Sent: Mon, Mar 31, 2014 11:10 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Important a C&C into Canada from US/ used sails 33 mkII



to Richard,


Just curious, any racing sails for sale from your 33 mk II ? 


Bruno.


C&C 33 mkII
Bécassine.




Envoyé de mon iPad

Le 2014-03-31 à 22:33, "Richard N. Bush"  a écrit :



How about a nice 1986 C&C 33? Motivated seller.


Richard
1985 37CB (and 1986 33)
 

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255



-Original Message-
From: Dennis C. 
To: CnClist 
Sent: Mon, Mar 31, 2014 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Important a C&C into Canada from US



The best cure for 5 footitis is 7 footitis.  Look at 34 footers or larger.


Dennis




On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Stevan Plavsa  wrote:

Thanks all! Not ready to pull the trigger on anything yet. Still too many 
various options on the list in terms of life choices right now to commit to 
this plan. I'm just trying to take all the details into account. I'm a 
spreadsheet kind of guy.




Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto






On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Colin Kilgour  wrote:


Stevan,
I'm not sure you need a customs broker.  I've brought my last 2 boats back from 
the US without a broker and it's not a difficult process.  (I also have brought 
a couple of cars back from the US, too)

One was on her own bottom and one on a trailer.   Clearing by water is a piece 
of cake.   Just phone in as normal and tell them you're at the dock.  They'll 
take a credit card over the phone for your HST.  Then you report to customs 
office the next day and fill in the paperwork.

On a trailer, it's also straightforward - As long as there's a VIN on the 
trailer.  If there's no VIN on the trailer, they might not let you bring it 
into the country - which would suck. (and which almost happened to me with my 
J/24)
I haven't used a third party trucker to bring a boat in, but I suspect that's 
not such a big deal either.

Anyway, it's not a big deal.  

Happy shopping!
Cheers,
Colin





On Mar 30, 2014 8:04 PM, "Stevan Plavsa"  wrote:

Nice! Thanks.
Sorry about the spelling fail. I blame spell check!


Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto




On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Robert Abbott  wrote:

  

Steve,
  
  Our boat came from Racine, Wisconsin.paid applicable taxes  when 
it crossed the boarder into Canadasince it was originally  built in 
Canada, no duties an/or other fees.
  
  Rob Abbott
  AZURA
  C&C 32 - 84
  Halifax, N.S..

  
  
  
  
  On 2014/03/30 2:55 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote:




  
Hi All,



Assuming that the boat was originally built in Canada,  would there be 
duties? I know there would be sales tax. I read  somewhere, and of 
course now I can't find the source, that  importing a Canadian built 
vessel is duty free. Is this true?  What types of fees can one expect 
when importing a Canadian  built boat back into Canada from the U.S?




Just out of curiosity!

Thanks,




Steve,

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto
  
  
  
  
  

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Re: Stus-List which iPad

[Eric Frank]

Ron,
   If you like the navigation app iNavX, then that runs well even on the first 
generation iPads, as well as the later ones.  To supply a GPS signal, there are 
various units that plug into the "charging" port of the iPad.  Here are the 
ones listed on the iNavX website: 
Bad Elf GPS
Dual XGPS150 Universal Bluetooth GPS / Dual XGPS170 Universal Bluetooth GPS

Magellan ToughCase

Or there are some free-standing GPS units that broadcast a wifi signal, which 
also works well.  Several laptop-based navigation systems (I use MacENC on the 
Mac, but there are also good ones for PCs) also broadcast wifi nav information, 
as well as some chartplotters (like the E7 from Raymarine).

iNavX lets you download free raster charters from NOAA, so once you buy the app 
and the GPS module, there are no further costs.  You definitely do not need 
phone capability to use the iPad.  But even the new ones are not waterproof.

Eric Frank
Cat's Paw
C&C 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA

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Re: Stus-List Nicro Solar Fans/Vents

[David Kelly]

I removed the dorade boxes on my 35 mkII and replaced them with four inch nicro 
solar vents mounted on teak pads.  I was able to enlarge the existing hole in 
the deck and the liner with a hole saw using  previously drilled hole in the 
pad as a guide.  The hole through the liner ended up very close to the head 
bulkhead, but wasn't an issue in the end

I can send you pictures if you can wait until the weekend

David Kelly
Baraka
C&C 35 MkII #207

> On Mar 31, 2014, at 5:21 AM, "dwight"  wrote:
> 
> Jim / Dennis
>  
> Is it important that the hole in the deck lines up with the hole in the cabin 
> liner? 
>  
> On my MKII it seems like the hole in the deck is forward of the circular 
> pattern of ¼ inch holes in the cabin liner below and that worked OK with the 
> dorade box and it works with the mushroom vent without fan albeit I don’t 
> think air flow is all that good…so with the Nicro solar vent / fan unlike in 
> the photos of your MKIII where the holes seem to line up, the hole which I 
> would have to make in the cabin liner would be right where the drilled holes 
> are now and that is almost adjacent to the forward bulkhead in the head so I 
> can’t go further forward to make the hole or the vent hole will be in the V 
> berth and the hole in the deck seems to be forward of that.  I need to take 
> the current mushroom off to see by how much but if they don’t line up could I 
> still use the Nicro vent.  My head is port side and the MKII was made with 
> matching dorade box vents one on either side and placed symmetrically either 
> side of the mast so there is now a mushroom on stbd side as well and I put 
> that mushroom there for added effect and to keep the symmetrical appearance 
> on deck
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts
> Sent: March 31, 2014 12:59 AM
> To: 1 CnC List
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Nicro Solar Fans/Vents
>  
> I had to enlarge the hole in the deck, so I used a drum sander chucked in a 
> drill. Excellent controllable tool for grinding fiberglass, fast-cutting and 
> hard to screw up in a big way. I taped a bag inside to capture the debris. 
> http://members.shaw.ca/ptarmiganshift/images/IMG_0902.jpg
> The transient moment...
> http://members.shaw.ca/ptarmiganshift/images/IMG_0904.jpg
>  
> 
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>  
> 
> On 30 March 2014 19:30, Dennis C.  wrote:
> Touche' had an existing 3" hole covered by a square translucent panel in the 
> head.  I used the existing hole.
> 
> Dennis C.
>  
> 
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 9:03 PM, dwight  wrote:
> Thanks Dennis
>  
> I want to put one on deck above the head.  Used to be a dorade vent there but 
> I removed that…it was a real bad jib sheet catcher, and put a mushroom vent 
> without fan a few years ago.  4” should fit but I am not sure about interior 
> cabin liner on my 35 MKII.  At present there are ¼ inch holes drilled in it 
> for ventilation through the mushroom, not very efficient flow and maybe for 
> best results with the solar fan I will need to cut a circular section out 
> instead, problem might be the forward bulkhead in the head and the bulkhead 
> between the head and the main cabin…not sure if the existing cut out on the 
> deck will be in the right location to line up and I don’t want to get into 
> doing a deck patch and cutting a new hole if possible…was that an issue on 
> your 35 MKI?
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
> Sent: March 30, 2014 5:12 PM
> To: CnClist
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Nicro Solar Fans/Vents
>  
> Exactly.  That's the new style. 
> 
> Note the openings vs the "feet" around the cover.  Any line 3/8 or smaller 
> can get caught in the openings.
> 
> Dennis C.
>  
> 
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 2:18 PM, dwight  wrote:
> Dennis
>  
> Is yours Nicro solar fan like this one?
>  
> http://ca.binnacle.com/p2156/NICRO-SOLAR-VENT-DAY-NIGHT-PLUS-4-INCH-STAINLESS-N20704S/product_info.html
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
> Sent: March 30, 2014 4:14 PM
> To: CnClist
> Subject: Stus-List Nicro Solar Fans/Vents
>  
> Have one in the head set to exhaust.  Definite thumbs up.
> 
> The only issue with the new design Nicro's is they have opeings in the cover 
> which are prone to catch lines.  Mine is mounted in the head which is forward 
> of the shrouds.  Since I downsized my jibsheets this last time, the sheet 
> occasionally got caught in the forward facing opening.  I solved the problem 
> by re-mounting the vent with the openings 45 degrees to center-line.  That 
> way, the cover extends all the way to the deck at the forward part of the 
> vent.
> 
> I think another lister solved that issue with an additional cover that 
> covered the openings.
>  
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Enlarging existing holes

[Dennis C.]

Over the years, we've discussed enlarging existing holes in hulls or
decks.  With a large existing hole, the pilot bit in a hole saw has nothing
to center itself with. There are two decent ways to do that.

First, you can use two hole saws on one arbor (mandrel) if the arbor has
enough threads to allow that.  If the smaller saw isn't quite large enough,
you can wrap some tape around it to make it fit the existing hole.

Second, you can make a wood insert to plug the existing hole.  There are
several ways to do that.  If you have a tapered plug, drive it into the
hole and cut it off.  Or, cut a wooden disc and insert it into the hole or
spear it on the pilot bit.  If necessary, you can shape the disc with a
spindle or belt sander.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Which ipad?

[Rick Brass]

I have a iPad 2 with both wifi and cellular capability. For about a decade, any 
device with cellular capability has been required to have a busily in GPS, 
because of the E911 system.

My iPad is not connected to cellular, and the GPS works just fine.

I was under the impression that older iPads all were configured for cellular, 
but that may not be the case. If not cellular, there are Gps attachments you 
can buy.

There are a number of software programs you can use. I am a big fan of Active 
Captain, because of how much more information it provides than can be found on 
charts. So I only looked at nav apps that had the Active Captain information 
included in the database. You can find information, reviews, and links on the 
Active Captain website.

I,m running the Active Captain Companion app, and Garmin Bluechart Mobile for 
the nav app. My plotter won't link to the iPad by Bluetooth, but your's might. 
I also have Garmin Homeport on my laptop so I can do route planning, etc on the 
laptop and transfer to the plotter using an SD card. Maybe some day I'll get an 
SD card reader for the iPad so I can do the planning on that device.

Rick Brass

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 31, 2014, at 21:57, "Ronald B. Frerker"  wrote:
> 
> Greetings listers,
> I have an opportunity to buy a used ipad from my niece.
> In order to use it eventually for navigation if I get my boat moved to Lake 
> Michigan, which one do I need?  I believe from some previous emails, I heard 
> it needs to be able to have a phone, but it doesn't have to be connected.
> Does it need to have GPS as well?
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C&C 30
> STL
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Stus-List Fwd: Enlarging existing holes

[Persuasion]

There is a third way.  Similar to your second.  Take a piece of 3/4"
plywood and cut the size of hole you want with your hole saw.  Next take
this template and hot glue or clamp it where you want to enlarge the hole.

Mike

-- Forwarded message --
From: Dennis C. 
Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:33 AM
Subject: Stus-List Enlarging existing holes
To: CnClist 


Over the years, we've discussed enlarging existing holes in hulls or
decks.  With a large existing hole, the pilot bit in a hole saw has nothing
to center itself with. There are two decent ways to do that.

First, you can use two hole saws on one arbor (mandrel) if the arbor has
enough threads to allow that.  If the smaller saw isn't quite large enough,
you can wrap some tape around it to make it fit the existing hole.

Second, you can make a wood insert to plug the existing hole.  There are
several ways to do that.  If you have a tapered plug, drive it into the
hole and cut it off.  Or, cut a wooden disc and insert it into the hole or
spear it on the pilot bit.  If necessary, you can shape the disc with a
spindle or belt sander.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

[Bill Coleman]

Well, I have been trying to get through this huge thread Jim graciously dug
up for us, and while only half through, was hoping to see what sort of
commentary there is today on the fellow on the Clipper Race who had a nice
tether, but didn't bother to clip the other end to the boat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPmNo-jo4tg

 

Now the clowns @ SA are pulling a silly Aprils 1st prank, so it is all shut
down!

 

april-1.jpg

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 6:51 PM
To: 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

 

There is a very interesting thread started by Evans Starzinger over on Gear
Anarchy. The conclusion after many pages is that a tether should be very
stretchy, like 7mm dynamic climbing rope. If you hit even half the breaking
strength of most gear with zero stretch your body would be mush.
 

There is also much information about soft shackles and splicing dyneema in
general. I would recommend it as a great read for anyone interested in
safety. It does mean you have to sign up to be able to see all the pretty
pictures...http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=154025
 &page=1




Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

 

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Re: Stus-List Defender

[Joel Aronson]

My order was shipped yesterday and is scheduled for delivery for today!  It
will be like Christmas for me this evening!

Joel


On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 8:53 PM, John and Maryann Read <
johnpr...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I was physically there - an absolutely glorious madhouse of semi organized
> mayhem.  Place was packed.  They had guys in the parking lot directing you
> to open spots.  A shuttle bus to get you to the door.  Over a dozen
> checkout registers.  Staff in each aisle and section to provide info on
> this or that.  All in all very well run.
>
>
>
> Got new Gill OS2 foul weather suit (with lifetime guarantee), some LED
> lights for the main cabin, miscellaneous stuff
>
>
>
> John and Maryann
>
> Legacy III
>
> 1982 C&C 34
>
> Noank, CT
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
> S
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:21 PM
>
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List Defender
>
>
>
> Just got my order into Defender before the sale ended!
>
> 16,000 Reverse cycle AC/heat and some stuff
>
>
>
> Chuck
> *Resolute*
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
>
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Stus-List Tuning C29-2C

[johnrmcl]

Any tuning guides out there for a C&C29-2?


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C&C29 Mark II
"Falcon"
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Enlarging existing holes

[Bill Coleman]

And there is a fourth way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJN1vqJGivI

http://www.sgstool.com/category/150-fgr-routers.aspx

 

these carbide rasp tools fit into your handy dremel tool, and work
beautifully for carving out holes, I had done many and not worn my original
out, even through my 1 ¼” transom. I think I even sent some to Dennis.

I wouldn’t use anything else.

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 animated_favicon1

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
Persuasion
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:10 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Fwd: Enlarging existing holes

 

There is a third way.  Similar to your second.  Take a piece of 3/4" plywood
and cut the size of hole you want with your hole saw.  Next take this
template and hot glue or clamp it where you want to enlarge the hole.

Mike

-- Forwarded message --
From: Dennis C. 
Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:33 AM
Subject: Stus-List Enlarging existing holes
To: CnClist 



Over the years, we've discussed enlarging existing holes in hulls or decks.
With a large existing hole, the pilot bit in a hole saw has nothing to
center itself with. There are two decent ways to do that.

First, you can use two hole saws on one arbor (mandrel) if the arbor has
enough threads to allow that.  If the smaller saw isn't quite large enough,
you can wrap some tape around it to make it fit the existing hole.

Second, you can make a wood insert to plug the existing hole.  There are
several ways to do that.  If you have a tapered plug, drive it into the hole
and cut it off.  Or, cut a wooden disc and insert it into the hole or spear
it on the pilot bit.  If necessary, you can shape the disc with a spindle or
belt sander.

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA


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Re: Stus-List which iPad

[Marek Dziedzic]

You only need the radio (the GPS is a radio and in the iPad it is part of the 
cellular/GPS module). You don’t need the SIM, the plan nor the cellular 
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Stus-List Poli-Glow

[johnrmcl]

Waxed the hull last year.  Thinking of going to Poli-Glow.  I am told this is 
difficult.  Comments?  Opinions?  Experiences?


John McLaughlin
C&C29 Mark II
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Stus-List Fwd: Poli-Glow

[Persuasion]

Poli-Glow you either love it or hate it.  We used it for a number of years
then switched back to good old wax.  Poli-Glow looks good the the first few
years.  Probably requires stripping very 4 or 5 years.  You must follow the
directions exactly.  Clean with Poli-prep. then numerous thin coats of
Poli-glow.  After 3 or 4 coats it starts to look really good.

My 2cents

Mike

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Subject: Stus-List Poli-Glow
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com


Waxed the hull last year.  Thinking of going to Poli-Glow.  I am told this
is difficult.  Comments?  Opinions?  Experiences?

 John McLaughlin
C&C29 Mark II
"Falcon"


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Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

[Bill Bina]

The first year, it is a bit of a job. You will need to remove all old 
wax and other contaminants embedded in the gelcoat. The gelcoat must be 
completely free of old wax, and especially any traces of old compound 
that have been rubbed into the surface. Poli-Glow will not adhere to old 
residues from wax and compound. This process will realistically be about 
as much labor and time as you used to spend compounding.


The big secret to using poli-glow successfully is to strictly follow the 
very simple directions,and DO NOT IMPROVISE! Nothing you know or have 
learned about compounding and waxing applies to using Poli-Glow. The 
directions are pretty simple. Do not stray from them. Also be aware that 
people who compound and wax boats to make money HATE poli-glow and will 
ad mouth it in any way they can think of. Every time someone switches to 
poli-glow, those guys lose another customer, because poli-glow is too 
easy, and you are never going to be willing to pay someone to do it for 
you, unless you also have your car driven by a chauffeur. :-)


Once my boat was converted from wax to poliglow, spring prep of the 
topsides consists of washing dust off the hull with a hose and a piece 
of towel, and then wiping on 2 or 3 coats of fresh poliglow over what is 
left from last year. Application is very fast, and there is no rubbing 
or other strenuous activity involved. My annual time spent on freshening 
up the poli-glow is a VERY leisurely 2-3 hours. I'm old, arthritic, and 
have cancer. I put the applicator on a threaded broomstick that is just 
long enough to reach the highest point at the bow, so I don't even have 
to climb any ladders.


My boat always looks like it has just been sprayed with clear lacquer, 
or is wet. It still looks pretty shiny when I haul it in the fall. Over 
the winter it does get scuffed a bit by the flapping tarp, but a couple 
of new coats right over what is there blend it all invisibly back in.


Bill Bina

On 4/1/2014 10:21 AM, johnr...@aol.com wrote:
Waxed the hull last year.  Thinking of going to Poli-Glow.  I am told 
this is difficult.  Comments?  Opinions?  Experiences?


John McLaughlin
C&C29 Mark II
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Enlarging existing holes

[Dennis C.]

True, Bill.  You did send some.  The carbide bits work well.  I've used
them but they require a steady hand which I don't have.

I've also used rasps.

However, if the deck or hull is thick, a hole saw is quicker.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Bill Coleman  wrote:

>  And there is a fourth way.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJN1vqJGivI
>
> http://www.sgstool.com/category/150-fgr-routers.aspx
>
>
>
> these carbide rasp tools fit into your handy dremel tool, and work
> beautifully for carving out holes, I had done many and not worn my original
> out, even through my 1 1/4 " transom. I think I even sent some to Dennis.
>
> I wouldn't use anything else.
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C&C 39 [image: animated_favicon1]
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *
> Persuasion
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:10 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List Fwd: Enlarging existing holes
>
>
>
> There is a third way.  Similar to your second.  Take a piece of 3/4"
> plywood and cut the size of hole you want with your hole saw.  Next take
> this template and hot glue or clamp it where you want to enlarge the hole.
>
> Mike
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *Dennis C.* 
> Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:33 AM
> Subject: Stus-List Enlarging existing holes
> To: CnClist 
>
> Over the years, we've discussed enlarging existing holes in hulls or
> decks.  With a large existing hole, the pilot bit in a hole saw has nothing
> to center itself with. There are two decent ways to do that.
>
> First, you can use two hole saws on one arbor (mandrel) if the arbor has
> enough threads to allow that.  If the smaller saw isn't quite large enough,
> you can wrap some tape around it to make it fit the existing hole.
>
> Second, you can make a wood insert to plug the existing hole.  There are
> several ways to do that.  If you have a tapered plug, drive it into the
> hole and cut it off.  Or, cut a wooden disc and insert it into the hole or
> spear it on the pilot bit.  If necessary, you can shape the disc with a
> spindle or belt sander.
>
> Dennis C.
>
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>
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Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

[Jim Watts]

Agree with Bill, it's easy and it looks good. Last year I stripped the hull
down to bare gelcoat again and built up 8-10 layers of Poli Glow. It was
still easier than wax/buff. The average year is a walk in the park.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 April 2014 07:40, Bill Bina  wrote:

>  The first year, it is a bit of a job. You will need to remove all old
> wax and other contaminants embedded in the gelcoat. The gelcoat must be
> completely free of old wax, and especially any traces of old compound that
> have been rubbed into the surface. Poli-Glow will not adhere to old
> residues from wax and compound. This process will realistically be about as
> much labor and time as you used to spend compounding.
>
> The big secret to using poli-glow successfully is to strictly follow the
> very simple directions,and DO NOT IMPROVISE! Nothing you know or have
> learned about compounding and waxing applies to using Poli-Glow. The
> directions are pretty simple. Do not stray from them. Also be aware that
> people who compound and wax boats to make money HATE poli-glow and will ad
> mouth it in any way they can think of. Every time someone switches to
> poli-glow, those guys lose another customer, because poli-glow is too easy,
> and you are never going to be willing to pay someone to do it for you,
> unless you also have your car driven by a chauffeur. :-)
>
> Once my boat was converted from wax to poliglow, spring prep of the
> topsides consists of washing dust off the hull with a hose and a piece of
> towel, and then wiping on 2 or 3 coats of fresh poliglow over what is left
> from last year. Application is very fast, and there is no rubbing or other
> strenuous activity involved. My annual time spent on freshening up the
> poli-glow is a VERY leisurely 2-3 hours. I'm old, arthritic, and have
> cancer. I put the applicator on a threaded broomstick that is just long
> enough to reach the highest point at the bow, so I don't even have to climb
> any ladders.
>
> My boat always looks like it has just been sprayed with clear lacquer, or
> is wet. It still looks pretty shiny when I haul it in the fall. Over the
> winter it does get scuffed a bit by the flapping tarp, but a couple of new
> coats right over what is there blend it all invisibly back in.
>
> Bill Bina
>
>
> On 4/1/2014 10:21 AM, johnr...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Waxed the hull last year.  Thinking of going to Poli-Glow.  I am told this
> is difficult.  Comments?  Opinions?  Experiences?
>
>  John McLaughlin
> C&C29 Mark II
> "Falcon"
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Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

[Gary Nylander]

I have been using Poli-glow for about 6 years. Get the hull very clean and get 
the oxidation off before you start (use their cleaner and don't skimp with the 
effort). Then apply as needed - it takes about six coats before it starts 
looking good and a couple more makes it look really good. The following years, 
all it takes is a couple of coats to refresh it.
The application is a breeze, you can put it on just about as fast as you can 
wipe the boat down - be a bit careful so you don't get runs.

I have it on a 1980 boat with original gelcoat and people still tell me how 
good it looks.

Gary
- Original Message - 
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  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 10:21 AM
  Subject: Stus-List Poli-Glow


  Waxed the hull last year.  Thinking of going to Poli-Glow.  I am told this is 
difficult.  Comments?  Opinions?  Experiences? 


  John McLaughlin
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Stus-List importing boats/lawyers - argh!

[Lee Youngblood]

With all the discussion about importing boats into Canada, I wondered 
if our friend to the North hadn't imported way too many of our lousy 
lawyers.  Yes, we want the lawyers to go away, but not like this!


Too many things are marked "Not for Navigational Use", and now Canada 
has this "Waiver of Responsibility"


Notice to Mariners / Special Notice to Mariners
Notice of updates to charts and other publications
https://www.notmar.gc.ca/go.php?doc=eng/index

Can't we send this type of lawyer and their ilk to Somalia!

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Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

[Rich Knowles]

For the last 16 years with INDIGO I’ve been using soap and water and, after 
it’s dry, a coat or two of Turtle Wax. Lasts all summer and looks just fine. 
The flag blue AwlGrip is now about 22 years old, has a couple of scratches but 
still is serviceable.

Rich

From: johnr...@aol.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 10:21 AM
Subject: Stus-List Poli-Glow

Waxed the hull last year.  Thinking of going to Poli-Glow.  I am told this is 
difficult.  Comments?  Opinions?  Experiences?

John McLaughlin
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Stus-List GFCI Outlet

[Edd Schillay]

Listers,

Thanks to the wisdom of the group, I’m redoing the entire AC system of 
the Enterprise, including a switch from shore power to inverter. If you listen 
carefully, you’ll hear a stream of cursing coming from City Island this weekend 
as I try to squeeze myself into yoga-expert positions trying to snake wires.
  

As to a GFCI outlet, is it best to put it first in the line of outlets 
or last? Or does it not matter? 

Would it make sense to just install a GFCI inline from the shore power 
instead? 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
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Re: Stus-List GFCI Outlet

[Joel Aronson]

Edd,

It has to be first to protect everything downstream.  A breaker will do the
same thing for more $$.

Good luck!

Joel
35/3
Annapolis.


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Edd Schillay  wrote:

> Listers,
>
> Thanks to the wisdom of the group, I'm redoing the entire AC system of the
> Enterprise, including a switch from shore power to inverter. If you listen
> carefully, you'll hear a stream of cursing coming from City Island this
> weekend as I try to squeeze myself into yoga-expert positions trying to
> snake wires.
>
> As to a GFCI outlet, is it best to put it first in the line of outlets or
> last? Or does it not matter?
>
> Would it make sense to just install a GFCI inline from the shore power
> instead?
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List GFCI Outlet

[Dennis C.]

Edd,

Look at the receptacle.  It should have two pairs of hot/common connections
and one ground.  One pair will be labeled "Line" and one pair "Load".  The
"Load" connections are protected.

The correct wiring should be from your supply (breaker) to the pair marked
"Line".  Downstream receptacles should be wired from the "Load" pair.

Also, make sure you get the black (hot) and white (common or neutral) wires
on the correct connectors for all connections.

Dennis C.


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Edd Schillay  wrote:

> Listers,
>
> Thanks to the wisdom of the group, I'm redoing the entire AC system of the
> Enterprise, including a switch from shore power to inverter. If you listen
> carefully, you'll hear a stream of cursing coming from City Island this
> weekend as I try to squeeze myself into yoga-expert positions trying to
> snake wires.
>
> As to a GFCI outlet, is it best to put it first in the line of outlets or
> last? Or does it not matter?
>
> Would it make sense to just install a GFCI inline from the shore power
> instead?
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List GFCI Outlet

[Edd Schillay]

Joel,

Thanks. Ultimately, is it necessary to have one? I’ve spent most of my 
life around boats and it seems to me that the GFCI outlet is a recent addition. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

On Apr 1, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Joel Aronson  wrote:

> Edd,
> 
> It has to be first to protect everything downstream.  A breaker will do the 
> same thing for more $$.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Joel
> 35/3
> Annapolis.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Edd Schillay  wrote:
> Listers,
> 
>   Thanks to the wisdom of the group, I’m redoing the entire AC system of 
> the Enterprise, including a switch from shore power to inverter. If you 
> listen carefully, you’ll hear a stream of cursing coming from City Island 
> this weekend as I try to squeeze myself into yoga-expert positions trying to 
> snake wires.  
> 
>   As to a GFCI outlet, is it best to put it first in the line of outlets 
> or last? Or does it not matter? 
> 
>   Would it make sense to just install a GFCI inline from the shore power 
> instead? 
> 
> 
>   All the best,
> 
>   Edd
> 
> 
>   Edd M. Schillay
>   Starship Enterprise
>   C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>   City Island, NY 
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Re: Stus-List GFCI Outlet

[Joel Aronson]

Edd,

It is now an ABYC requirement for all new boats, and surveyors will note
their presence/absence on resale.   An insurer might require them going
forward.

Necessary?  No.  My boat sails well without them!  Heck, I remember when
seat belts were not required in cars!

Joel


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Edd Schillay  wrote:

> Joel,
>
> Thanks. Ultimately, is it necessary to have one? I've spent most of my
> life around boats and it seems to me that the GFCI outlet is a recent
> addition.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
> On Apr 1, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Joel Aronson  wrote:
>
> Edd,
>
> It has to be first to protect everything downstream.  A breaker will do
> the same thing for more $$.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Joel
> 35/3
> Annapolis.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Edd Schillay  wrote:
>
>> Listers,
>>
>> Thanks to the wisdom of the group, I'm redoing the entire AC system of
>> the Enterprise, including a switch from shore power to inverter. If you
>> listen carefully, you'll hear a stream of cursing coming from City Island
>> this weekend as I try to squeeze myself into yoga-expert positions trying
>> to snake wires.
>>
>> As to a GFCI outlet, is it best to put it first in the line of outlets or
>> last? Or does it not matter?
>>
>> Would it make sense to just install a GFCI inline from the shore power
>> instead?
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Edd
>>
>>
>>  Edd M. Schillay
>> Starship Enterprise
>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>>  City Island, NY
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Stus-List Boat For Sail

[Alan Bergen]

While browsing through listings on Yachtworld.com, I came across a C&C 38 that 
looks pretty nice. Lots of pictures. Check it out at : 
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/C%26c-38-MK-III-2690440/Seattle/WA/United-State.
 I have no connection with this boat, but thought I'd put it out to the list in 
case someone was looking for a boat of this size. 

Alan Bergen 
C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty 
Rose City YC 
Portland, OR 

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Stus-List Lawyers - argh!

[sam . c . salter]

Half way down the lake where I sail is a nice, little summer village - "Ghost 
Village ". The village is set in a fairly good sized bay with a small rock in 
the middle of the bay. It's just below water level. 

For years the village has put an orange buoy on the rock every spring to warn 
boaters - nice, neighbourly gesture! 

About 3 years ago a lawyer bought a property in the village. Next spring they 
are putting the buoy on the rock, so the lawyer starts telling them about 
liability and stuff. He persuades the village it's in their own interest not to 
put out the buoy.
There hasn't been one marking the rock for 3 years now.

sam :-)
  Original Message  
From: Lee Youngblood
Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:53 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List importing boats/lawyers - argh!

With all the discussion about importing boats into Canada, I wondered 
if our friend to the North hadn't imported way too many of our lousy 
lawyers. Yes, we want the lawyers to go away, but not like this!

Too many things are marked "Not for Navigational Use", and now Canada 
has this "Waiver of Responsibility"

Notice to Mariners / Special Notice to Mariners
Notice of updates to charts and other publications
https://www.notmar.gc.ca/go.php?doc=eng/index

Can't we send this type of lawyer and their ilk to Somalia!

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Re: Stus-List Boat For Sail

[Stevan Plavsa]

"Please contact Lee Youngblood at 425-444-9109"

He's on the list, isn't he?


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Alan Bergen wrote:

> While browsing through listings on Yachtworld.com, I came across a C&C 38
> that looks pretty nice.  Lots of pictures.  Check it out at :
>
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/C%26c-38-MK-III-2690440/Seattle/WA/United-State.
> I have no connection with this boat, but thought I'd put it out to the list
> in case someone was looking for a boat of this size.
>
> Alan Bergen
> C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
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Re: Stus-List importing boats/lawyers - argh!

[Wally Bryant]

Lee - It's been going on for a very long time.  Remember Noah?  Well, if 
you look closely at a dove, you'll see 'Not to be used for navigation' 
in fine print on the left side of the beak.


I'm pretty sure my sextant is not to be used for navigation.  All of my 
three GPS systems are 'for information only' and are not to be used for 
navigation.


I'm preempted lawsuits by crew, and have labelled everything on the boat 
'Not to be taken seriously, Not to be used for navigation.'  I put a 
label on my helm, because it's not to be used when navigating the boat. 
 Same with the Ritchie compass.


I won't sail with anyone until I've seen a retinal scan.  In the last 20 
years, the government has been doing secret DNA enhancement experiments 
on embryos.  The only way to know is if the inside of the eyeball says 
'Not for navigation.'  If you think I'm kidding, just go over to a 
friend's house and shine a 10,000,000 candlepower spotlight in his or 
her baby's eyes.  If the child is DNA enhanced, the warning will show up 
in fluorescent orange.  (Or you can do like they did in Salem, and throw 
them in the pool.  If they drown, they're not genetically enhanced.)


Wal



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Re: Stus-List Lawyers - argh!

[Rich Knowles]

Someone should explain to the lawyer that he eventually may be held liable for 
an accident that happened because he was the direct cause of no warning being 
posted on a known hazard. The word stupid comes to mind

Rich

> On Apr 1, 2014, at 16:26, sam.c.sal...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Half way down the lake where I sail is a nice, little summer village - "Ghost 
> Village ". The village is set in a fairly good sized bay with a small rock in 
> the middle of the bay. It's just below water level. 
> 
> For years the village has put an orange buoy on the rock every spring to warn 
> boaters - nice, neighbourly gesture! 
> 
> About 3 years ago a lawyer bought a property in the village. Next spring they 
> are putting the buoy on the rock, so the lawyer starts telling them about 
> liability and stuff. He persuades the village it's in their own interest not 
> to put out the buoy.
> There hasn't been one marking the rock for 3 years now.
> 
> sam :-)
>   Original Message  
> From: Lee Youngblood
> Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:53 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List importing boats/lawyers - argh!
> 
> With all the discussion about importing boats into Canada, I wondered 
> if our friend to the North hadn't imported way too many of our lousy 
> lawyers. Yes, we want the lawyers to go away, but not like this!
> 
> Too many things are marked "Not for Navigational Use", and now Canada 
> has this "Waiver of Responsibility"
> 
> Notice to Mariners / Special Notice to Mariners
> Notice of updates to charts and other publications
> https://www.notmar.gc.ca/go.php?doc=eng/index
> 
> Can't we send this type of lawyer and their ilk to Somalia!
> 
> Yuck!
> 
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Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

[dwight]

I use Awl Care on Alianna's Awl Gripped hull with same results as Rich.looks
good every time and not that much effort, really, couple of hours on a 35
footer

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Knowles
Sent: April 1, 2014 1:29 PM
To: cnc-list Cnc-List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

 

For the last 16 years with INDIGO I've been using soap and water and, after
it's dry, a coat or two of Turtle Wax. Lasts all summer and looks just fine.
The flag blue AwlGrip is now about 22 years old, has a couple of scratches
but still is serviceable.

 

Rich

 

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 10:21 AM

Subject: Stus-List Poli-Glow

 

Waxed the hull last year.  Thinking of going to Poli-Glow.  I am told this
is difficult.  Comments?  Opinions?  Experiences?

 

John McLaughlin

C&C29 Mark II

"Falcon"

 

 


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Re: Stus-List GFCI Outlet

[Ken Heaton]

Hey Edd,

I wouldn't put one GFCI inline from the shore power.  It would need to be
large and expensive (2 pole, 30 amp) as you will end up
running everything through it including the heating element in the hot
water heater and your battery charger.  Also, many modern battery chargers
may cause it to nuisance trip frequently.

The GFCI in an outlet is cheap, effective and obvious if it trips as they
will usually have a small LED indicator on the face and only the circuit
that is tripped (and the outlets downstream) will go dead, not the whole
boat.  I think your boat has two breakers in the AC panel for the AC
outlets so you will only need two (or possibly three, depending on how the
wire is run) GFCI's to do the whole boat.

I think the level of safety these GFCI provide for very little money is
worth it.  I'm not sure how the ABYC requirement for all new boats is
written so I don't know if dong it this way will cover it.

Ken H.

As Dennis C. said:

"Look at the GFCI receptacle you are installing.  It should have two pairs
of hot/common connections and one ground.  One pair will be labeled "Line"
and one pair "Load".  The "Load" connections are protected.

The correct wiring should be from your supply (breaker) to the pair marked
"Line".  Downstream receptacles should be wired from the "Load" pair.

Also, make sure you get the black (hot) and white (common or neutral) wires
on the correct connectors for all connections.

Dennis C."


On 1 April 2014 14:08, Edd Schillay  wrote:

> Listers,
>
> Thanks to the wisdom of the group, I'm redoing the entire AC system of the
> Enterprise, including a switch from shore power to inverter. If you listen
> carefully, you'll hear a stream of cursing coming from City Island this
> weekend as I try to squeeze myself into yoga-expert positions trying to
> snake wires.
>
> As to a GFCI outlet, is it best to put it first in the line of outlets or
> last? Or does it not matter?
>
> Would it make sense to just install a GFCI inline from the shore power
> instead?
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
>  Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
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>  City Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List which iPad

[ahycrace]

someone just gave me something called Le Pad a cheap version of a real notepad. 
It does have a gps and a 15 meg sim card. Is there a free charting app that I 
can download onto this thing it does have a gps so it should work right?

>Gary Kolc " 
> Liberty "

 Marek Dziedzic  wrote: 
> You only need the radio (the GPS is a radio and in the iPad it is part of the 
> cellular/GPS module). You don’t need the SIM, the plan nor the cellular 
> connection.
> 
> Marek


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Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

[schiller]

Just got my delivery of Aurora Boat Wash, Boat scrub, Black Steak 
Remover and Boat Shine.  I have used Boat Shine for many years.  Last 
year couldn't find it locally so I went with Maguirs.  I am ready to go 
back.  Easy to use and looks great all year.  I am using it over 30 year 
old Imron.


Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
Waiting for the ice to move out in South Haven, Mi

On 4/1/2014 10:50 AM, Jim Watts wrote:
Agree with Bill, it's easy and it looks good. Last year I stripped the 
hull down to bare gelcoat again and built up 8-10 layers of Poli Glow. 
It was still easier than wax/buff. The average year is a walk in the 
park.


Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 April 2014 07:40, Bill Bina > wrote:


The first year, it is a bit of a job. You will need to remove all
old wax and other contaminants embedded in the gelcoat. The
gelcoat must be completely free of old wax, and especially any
traces of old compound that have been rubbed into the surface.
Poli-Glow will not adhere to old residues from wax and compound.
This process will realistically be about as much labor and time as
you used to spend compounding.

The big secret to using poli-glow successfully is to strictly
follow the very simple directions,and DO NOT IMPROVISE! Nothing
you know or have learned about compounding and waxing applies to
using Poli-Glow. The directions are pretty simple. Do not stray
from them. Also be aware that people who compound and wax boats to
make money HATE poli-glow and will ad mouth it in any way they can
think of. Every time someone switches to poli-glow, those guys
lose another customer, because poli-glow is too easy, and you are
never going to be willing to pay someone to do it for you, unless
you also have your car driven by a chauffeur. :-)

Once my boat was converted from wax to poliglow, spring prep of
the topsides consists of washing dust off the hull with a hose and
a piece of towel, and then wiping on 2 or 3 coats of fresh
poliglow over what is left from last year. Application is very
fast, and there is no rubbing or other strenuous activity
involved. My annual time spent on freshening up the poli-glow is a
VERY leisurely 2-3 hours. I'm old, arthritic, and have cancer. I
put the applicator on a threaded broomstick that is just long
enough to reach the highest point at the bow, so I don't even have
to climb any ladders.

My boat always looks like it has just been sprayed with clear
lacquer, or is wet. It still looks pretty shiny when I haul it in
the fall. Over the winter it does get scuffed a bit by the
flapping tarp, but a couple of new coats right over what is there
blend it all invisibly back in.

Bill Bina


On 4/1/2014 10:21 AM, johnr...@aol.com 
wrote:

Waxed the hull last year.  Thinking of going to Poli-Glow.  I am
told this is difficult.  Comments?  Opinions?  Experiences?

John McLaughlin
C&C29 Mark II
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Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

[Jake Brodersen]

John,

 

I am a Poli-Glow user and have been for the past 6 or 7 years.  It makes my
boat shine.  The annual maintenance coats are easy to apply.  I've
compounded several boats and have had good results, but with 28 year old
gelcoat, Poli-Glow is just too easy to pass up.  We always get good
compliments on the shine.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

"Midnight Mistress"

C&C 35 Mk-III

Hampton Va

 

 

 

 

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johnr...@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 10:22 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Poli-Glow

 

Waxed the hull last year.  Thinking of going to Poli-Glow.  I am told this
is difficult.  Comments?  Opinions?  Experiences? 

 

John McLaughlin

C&C29 Mark II

"Falcon"

 

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Stus-List Poli-Glow

[Daniel Sheer]

I've been using Nu-Finish on all my stuff for years. Easy to apply, I only use 
a buffer on the big boat 'cause my arm gets tired. Advertised as once a year on 
cars, seems to do the trick for me.

Dan Sheer
Pegathy LF38 on Rock Creek off the Patapsco
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Re: Stus-List which iPad

[bobmor99 .]

I did a quick search and see that the LePad (is that like the El Camino?)
runs Android so you should be able to use the almost free ($7 USD) MX
Mariner app from the Google Play store. Not sure about Canadian charts, but
acquiring free NOAA (US) charts is simple from within the app.
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:18 PM,  wrote:

>
> someone just gave me something called Le Pad a cheap version of a real
> notepad. It does have a gps and a 15 meg sim card. Is there a free charting
> app that I can download onto this thing it does have a gps so it should
> work right?
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Boat For Sail

[Jim Watts]

You bet! Give him a call. If nothing else, it's a good chat.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 April 2014 12:43, Stevan Plavsa  wrote:

> "Please contact Lee Youngblood at 425-444-9109"
>
> He's on the list, isn't he?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Alan Bergen wrote:
>
>> While browsing through listings on Yachtworld.com, I came across a C&C 38
>> that looks pretty nice.  Lots of pictures.  Check it out at :
>>
>> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/C%26c-38-MK-III-2690440/Seattle/WA/United-State.
>> I have no connection with this boat, but thought I'd put it out to the list
>> in case someone was looking for a boat of this size.
>>
>> Alan Bergen
>> C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
>> Rose City YC
>> Portland, OR
>>
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Re: Stus-List importing boats/lawyers - argh!

[Jim Watts]

Burn the witch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 April 2014 12:50, Wally Bryant  wrote:

> Lee - It's been going on for a very long time.  Remember Noah?  Well, if
> you look closely at a dove, you'll see 'Not to be used for navigation' in
> fine print on the left side of the beak.
>
> I'm pretty sure my sextant is not to be used for navigation.  All of my
> three GPS systems are 'for information only' and are not to be used for
> navigation.
>
> I'm preempted lawsuits by crew, and have labelled everything on the boat
> 'Not to be taken seriously, Not to be used for navigation.'  I put a label
> on my helm, because it's not to be used when navigating the boat.  Same
> with the Ritchie compass.
>
> I won't sail with anyone until I've seen a retinal scan.  In the last 20
> years, the government has been doing secret DNA enhancement experiments on
> embryos.  The only way to know is if the inside of the eyeball says 'Not
> for navigation.'  If you think I'm kidding, just go over to a friend's
> house and shine a 10,000,000 candlepower spotlight in his or her baby's
> eyes.  If the child is DNA enhanced, the warning will show up in
> fluorescent orange.  (Or you can do like they did in Salem, and throw them
> in the pool.  If they drown, they're not genetically enhanced.)
>
> Wal
>
>
>
>
> you wrote:
>
>> Too many things are marked "Not for Navigational Use",
>>
>
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Re: Stus-List Lawyers - argh!

[Jim Watts]

After the village gets sued, next year they will have the lawyer, painted
orange, on the rock.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 April 2014 13:28, Rich Knowles  wrote:

> Someone should explain to the lawyer that he eventually may be held liable
> for an accident that happened because he was the direct cause of no warning
> being posted on a known hazard. The word stupid comes to mind
>
> Rich
>
> > On Apr 1, 2014, at 16:26, sam.c.sal...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Half way down the lake where I sail is a nice, little summer village -
> "Ghost Village ". The village is set in a fairly good sized bay with a
> small rock in the middle of the bay. It's just below water level.
> >
> > For years the village has put an orange buoy on the rock every spring to
> warn boaters - nice, neighbourly gesture!
> >
> > About 3 years ago a lawyer bought a property in the village. Next spring
> they are putting the buoy on the rock, so the lawyer starts telling them
> about liability and stuff. He persuades the village it's in their own
> interest not to put out the buoy.
> > There hasn't been one marking the rock for 3 years now.
> >
> > sam :-)
> >   Original Message
> > From: Lee Youngblood
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:53 AM
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Subject: Stus-List importing boats/lawyers - argh!
> >
> > With all the discussion about importing boats into Canada, I wondered
> > if our friend to the North hadn't imported way too many of our lousy
> > lawyers. Yes, we want the lawyers to go away, but not like this!
> >
> > Too many things are marked "Not for Navigational Use", and now Canada
> > has this "Waiver of Responsibility"
> >
> > Notice to Mariners / Special Notice to Mariners
> > Notice of updates to charts and other publications
> > 
> https://www.notmar.gc.ca/go.php?doc=eng/index
> >
> > Can't we send this type of lawyer and their ilk to Somalia!
> >
> > Yuck!
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Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

[Jim Watts]

For those folks who have painted hulls who exclaim that they only have to
wax them...we're not talking about painted hulls.
Sure, I'd love to paint my hull and that would make life much easier
because then I would only have to rub it with a couple of dead squirrels
every spring to keep it looking wonderful.
However, I have original gelcoat, and I am using Poli Glow because I can't
afford to have the hull painted and I'm too lazy to do a wax job every
year. Capice?

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 April 2014 16:53, Jake Brodersen  wrote:

> John,
>
>
>
> I am a Poli-Glow user and have been for the past 6 or 7 years.  It makes
> my boat shine.  The annual maintenance coats are easy to apply.  I've
> compounded several boats and have had good results, but with 28 year old
> gelcoat, Poli-Glow is just too easy to pass up.  We always get good
> compliments on the shine.
>
>
>
> Jake
>
>
>
> *Jake Brodersen*
>
> *"Midnight Mistress"*
>
> *C&C 35 Mk-III*
>
> *Hampton Va*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *
> johnr...@aol.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 01, 2014 10:22 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List Poli-Glow
>
>
>
> Waxed the hull last year.  Thinking of going to Poli-Glow.  I am told this
> is difficult.  Comments?  Opinions?  Experiences?
>
>
>
> John McLaughlin
>
> C&C29 Mark II
>
> "Falcon"
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Boat For Sail

[Jim Watts]

Speaking of Washington State, I have come across a screenshot for a website
that allegedly shows a C&C-based grow-op in a marina. That's what
Washington has come to, it's such a den of iniquity down there.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3HoJMTjSI7Q/UztqbLohEzI/CAM/lYmGsEa816s/w1110-h858-no/unnamed.jpg



Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 April 2014 18:04, Jim Watts  wrote:

> You bet! Give him a call. If nothing else, it's a good chat.
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
>
> On 1 April 2014 12:43, Stevan Plavsa  wrote:
>
>> "Please contact Lee Youngblood at 425-444-9109"
>>
>> He's on the list, isn't he?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Alan Bergen wrote:
>>
>>> While browsing through listings on Yachtworld.com, I came across a C&C
>>> 38 that looks pretty nice.  Lots of pictures.  Check it out at :
>>>
>>> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/C%26c-38-MK-III-2690440/Seattle/WA/United-State.
>>> I have no connection with this boat, but thought I'd put it out to the list
>>> in case someone was looking for a boat of this size.
>>>
>>> Alan Bergen
>>> C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
>>> Rose City YC
>>> Portland, OR
>>>
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Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

[Lee]

correct me if i'm wrong but I believe Awlgrip and Imron advise against wax of 
any kind
Lee
Maggie-Lee
1987 C+C 35-3 c/b

-Original Message-
From: Jim Watts 
To: 1 CnC List 
Sent: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 9:14 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow


For those folks who have painted hulls who exclaim that they only have to wax 
them...we're not talking about painted hulls.
Sure, I'd love to paint my hull and that would make life much easier because 
then I would only have to rub it with a couple of dead squirrels every spring 
to keep it looking wonderful.
However, I have original gelcoat, and I am using Poli Glow because I can't 
afford to have the hull painted and I'm too lazy to do a wax job every year. 
Capice?



Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC




On 1 April 2014 16:53, Jake Brodersen  wrote:


John,
 
I am a Poli-Glow user and have been for the past 6 or 7 years.  It makes my 
boat shine.  The annual maintenance coats are easy to apply.  I’ve compounded 
several boats and have had good results, but with 28 year old gelcoat, 
Poli-Glow is just too easy to pass up.  We always get good compliments on the 
shine.
 
Jake
 
Jake Brodersen
“Midnight Mistress”
C&C 35 Mk-III
Hampton Va
 
 
 
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Poli-Glow

 
Waxed the hull last year.  Thinking of going to Poli-Glow.  I am told this is 
difficult.  Comments?  Opinions?  Experiences? 

 

John McLaughlin

C&C29 Mark II

"Falcon"

 



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Re: Stus-List Boat For Sail

[Martin DeYoung]

Yup, we here in Washington know how to make $$ with our old C&C's.  I 
appreciate the effort "Billy Blood" put into a April Fool's joke.  Lee 
Youngblood sent the screen shot to me earlier but I was not able to find the 
post on the Three Sheets Northwest web site.



The C&C that is having it's reputation impinged is our 43, Calypso.  Calypso is 
under the winter work cover.  At his time we have all the deck hatches off for 
refirb (sent to Hammerhead) and all the deck hardware forward of the cockpit 
off to fix wet balsa and re-bed.  New deck paint is planned.



With much of the deck work being unplanned we have canceled our spring racing 
plans to concentrate of the deck repairs and new paint.  The entire interior is 
tarped off as much of the repair work is being done from the inside.



The only "smoke" likely to be seen from Calypso will be fiberglass dust flying 
off the grinder.



Martin

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle


From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Jim Watts 
[paradigmat...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 6:41 PM
To: 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat For Sail

Speaking of Washington State, I have come across a screenshot for a website 
that allegedly shows a C&C-based grow-op in a marina. That's what Washington 
has come to, it's such a den of iniquity down there.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3HoJMTjSI7Q/UztqbLohEzI/CAM/lYmGsEa816s/w1110-h858-no/unnamed.jpg



Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 April 2014 18:04, Jim Watts 
mailto:paradigmat...@gmail.com>> wrote:
You bet! Give him a call. If nothing else, it's a good chat.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 April 2014 12:43, Stevan Plavsa 
mailto:stevanpla...@gmail.com>> wrote:
"Please contact Lee Youngblood at 425-444-9109"

He's on the list, isn't he?


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Alan Bergen 
mailto:alan-at-h...@comcast.net>> wrote:
While browsing through listings on Yachtworld.com, I came across a C&C 38 that 
looks pretty nice.  Lots of pictures.  Check it out at :
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/C%26c-38-MK-III-2690440/Seattle/WA/United-State.
  I have no connection with this boat, but thought I'd put it out to the list 
in case someone was looking for a boat of this size.

Alan Bergen
C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR


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Re: Stus-List Boat For Sail

[Jim Watts]

I hear that Lee has volunteered to help decore Calypso's deck...

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 April 2014 20:43, Martin DeYoung  wrote:

>  Yup, we here in Washington know how to make $$ with our old C&C's.  I
> appreciate the effort "Billy Blood" put into a April Fool's joke.  Lee
> Youngblood sent the screen shot to me earlier but I was not able to find
> the post on the Three Sheets Northwest web site.
>
>
>
> The C&C that is having it's reputation impinged is our 43, Calypso.
> Calypso is under the winter work cover.  At his time we have all the deck
> hatches off for refirb (sent to Hammerhead) and all the deck hardware
> forward of the cockpit off to fix wet balsa and re-bed.  New deck paint is
> planned.
>
>
>
> With much of the deck work being unplanned we have canceled our spring
> racing plans to concentrate of the deck repairs and new paint.  The entire
> interior is tarped off as much of the repair work is being done from the
> inside.
>
>
>
> The only "smoke" likely to be seen from Calypso will be fiberglass dust
> flying off the grinder.
>
>
>
> Martin
>
> Calypso
>
> 1971 C&C 43
>
> Seattle
>  --
> *From:* CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Jim Watts [
> paradigmat...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 01, 2014 6:41 PM
> *To:* 1 CnC List
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Boat For Sail
>
>   Speaking of Washington State, I have come across a screenshot for a
> website that allegedly shows a C&C-based grow-op in a marina. That's what
> Washington has come to, it's such a den of iniquity down there.
>
>
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3HoJMTjSI7Q/UztqbLohEzI/CAM/lYmGsEa816s/w1110-h858-no/unnamed.jpg
>
>
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
>
> On 1 April 2014 18:04, Jim Watts  wrote:
>
>> You bet! Give him a call. If nothing else, it's a good chat.
>>
>> Jim Watts
>> Paradigm Shift
>> C&C 35 Mk III
>> Victoria, BC
>>
>>
>> On 1 April 2014 12:43, Stevan Plavsa  wrote:
>>
>>> "Please contact Lee Youngblood at 425-444-9109"
>>>
>>>  He's on the list, isn't he?
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Alan Bergen 
>>> wrote:
>>>
   While browsing through listings on Yachtworld.com, I came across a
 C&C 38 that looks pretty nice.  Lots of pictures.  Check it out at :

 http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/C%26c-38-MK-III-2690440/Seattle/WA/United-State.
 I have no connection with this boat, but thought I'd put it out to the list
 in case someone was looking for a boat of this size.

  Alan Bergen
 C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
 Rose City YC
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Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

[Jim Watts]

Didn't we cover this in the Lawyer No Guarantee on Anything for Anythng
thread?

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 April 2014 18:51, Lee  wrote:

> correct me if i'm wrong but I believe Awlgrip and Imron advise against wax
> of any kind
> Lee
> Maggie-Lee
> 1987 C+C 35-3 c/b
>  -Original Message-
> From: Jim Watts 
> To: 1 CnC List 
> Sent: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 9:14 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow
>
>  For those folks who have painted hulls who exclaim that they only have
> to wax them...we're not talking about painted hulls.
> Sure, I'd love to paint my hull and that would make life much easier
> because then I would only have to rub it with a couple of dead squirrels
> every spring to keep it looking wonderful.
> However, I have original gelcoat, and I am using Poli Glow because I can't
> afford to have the hull painted and I'm too lazy to do a wax job every
> year. Capice?
>
>  Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
>
> On 1 April 2014 16:53, Jake Brodersen  wrote:
>
>>  John,
>>
>> I am a Poli-Glow user and have been for the past 6 or 7 years.  It makes
>> my boat shine.  The annual maintenance coats are easy to apply.  I've
>> compounded several boats and have had good results, but with 28 year old
>> gelcoat, Poli-Glow is just too easy to pass up.  We always get good
>> compliments on the shine.
>>
>> Jake
>>
>> *Jake Brodersen*
>> *"Midnight Mistress"*
>> *C&C 35 Mk-III*
>> *Hampton Va*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *
>> johnr...@aol.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 01, 2014 10:22 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Poli-Glow
>>
>> Waxed the hull last year.  Thinking of going to Poli-Glow.  I am told
>> this is difficult.  Comments?  Opinions?  Experiences?
>>
>>  John McLaughlin
>>  C&C29 Mark II
>>  "Falcon"
>>
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Re: Stus-List Boat For Sail now de-coring C&Cs in PNW

[Martin DeYoung]

Yes, Lee stops by Calypso from time to time,  He also sails with us when we 
will be racing somewhere interesting.  If any other C&C owners want to practice 
on someone else's deck let me know.  There is plenty to go around.  On the plus 
side, the Bruckmann build team in 1970 did a fair job of sealing (with resin) 
between row of end gain balsa so the water damage is mostly limited to small 
areas.



Lee is both a C&C owner and broker along with being a great photog.  Some of my 
recent favorite pictures of PNW sailboats including Calypso were shot by Lee.  
Maybe we can get him to post a montage on the cnc-photoalbum "photo gallery".



Martin

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle


From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Jim Watts 
[paradigmat...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 8:55 PM
To: 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat For Sail

I hear that Lee has volunteered to help decore Calypso's deck...

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 April 2014 20:43, Martin DeYoung 
mailto:mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>> wrote:

Yup, we here in Washington know how to make $$ with our old C&C's.  I 
appreciate the effort "Billy Blood" put into a April Fool's joke.  Lee 
Youngblood sent the screen shot to me earlier but I was not able to find the 
post on the Three Sheets Northwest web site.



The C&C that is having it's reputation impinged is our 43, Calypso.  Calypso is 
under the winter work cover.  At his time we have all the deck hatches off for 
refirb (sent to Hammerhead) and all the deck hardware forward of the cockpit 
off to fix wet balsa and re-bed.  New deck paint is planned.



With much of the deck work being unplanned we have canceled our spring racing 
plans to concentrate of the deck repairs and new paint.  The entire interior is 
tarped off as much of the repair work is being done from the inside.



The only "smoke" likely to be seen from Calypso will be fiberglass dust flying 
off the grinder.



Martin

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle


From: CnC-List 
[cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf 
of Jim Watts [paradigmat...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 6:41 PM
To: 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat For Sail

Speaking of Washington State, I have come across a screenshot for a website 
that allegedly shows a C&C-based grow-op in a marina. That's what Washington 
has come to, it's such a den of iniquity down there.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3HoJMTjSI7Q/UztqbLohEzI/CAM/lYmGsEa816s/w1110-h858-no/unnamed.jpg



Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 April 2014 18:04, Jim Watts 
mailto:paradigmat...@gmail.com>> wrote:
You bet! Give him a call. If nothing else, it's a good chat.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 1 April 2014 12:43, Stevan Plavsa 
mailto:stevanpla...@gmail.com>> wrote:
"Please contact Lee Youngblood at 425-444-9109"

He's on the list, isn't he?


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Alan Bergen 
mailto:alan-at-h...@comcast.net>> wrote:
While browsing through listings on Yachtworld.com, I came across a C&C 38 that 
looks pretty nice.  Lots of pictures.  Check it out at :
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/C%26c-38-MK-III-2690440/Seattle/WA/United-State.
  I have no connection with this boat, but thought I'd put it out to the list 
in case someone was looking for a boat of this size.

Alan Bergen
C&C 35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR


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Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

[dwight]

That is the ay I understand things with Awlgrip and the reason I use
Awlcare, not wax on Alianna; for a gelcoat hull I would recommend Collinite
Fleetwax

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Lee
Sent: April 1, 2014 10:52 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

 

correct me if i'm wrong but I believe Awlgrip and Imron advise against wax
of any kind

Lee

Maggie-Lee

1987 C+C 35-3 c/b

-Original Message-
From: Jim Watts 
To: 1 CnC List 
Sent: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 9:14 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

For those folks who have painted hulls who exclaim that they only have to
wax them...we're not talking about painted hulls.
Sure, I'd love to paint my hull and that would make life much easier because
then I would only have to rub it with a couple of dead squirrels every
spring to keep it looking wonderful.
However, I have original gelcoat, and I am using Poli Glow because I can't
afford to have the hull painted and I'm too lazy to do a wax job every year.
Capice?




Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

 

On 1 April 2014 16:53, Jake Brodersen  wrote:

John,

 

I am a Poli-Glow user and have been for the past 6 or 7 years.  It makes my
boat shine.  The annual maintenance coats are easy to apply.  I've
compounded several boats and have had good results, but with 28 year old
gelcoat, Poli-Glow is just too easy to pass up.  We always get good
compliments on the shine.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

"Midnight Mistress"

C&C 35 Mk-III

Hampton Va

 

 

 

 

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johnr...@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 10:22 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Poli-Glow

 

Waxed the hull last year.  Thinking of going to Poli-Glow.  I am told this
is difficult.  Comments?  Opinions?  Experiences? 

 

John McLaughlin

C&C29 Mark II

"Falcon"

 


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Re: Stus-List Lawyers - argh!

[Rich Knowles]

Flashing

Rich


> On Apr 1, 2014, at 22:09, Jim Watts  wrote:
> 
> After the village gets sued, next year they will have the lawyer, painted 
> orange, on the rock. 
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> 
> 
>> On 1 April 2014 13:28, Rich Knowles  wrote:
>> Someone should explain to the lawyer that he eventually may be held liable 
>> for an accident that happened because he was the direct cause of no warning 
>> being posted on a known hazard. The word stupid comes to mind
>> 
>> Rich
>> 
>> > On Apr 1, 2014, at 16:26, sam.c.sal...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > Half way down the lake where I sail is a nice, little summer village - 
>> > "Ghost Village ". The village is set in a fairly good sized bay with a 
>> > small rock in the middle of the bay. It's just below water level.
>> >
>> > For years the village has put an orange buoy on the rock every spring to 
>> > warn boaters - nice, neighbourly gesture!
>> >
>> > About 3 years ago a lawyer bought a property in the village. Next spring 
>> > they are putting the buoy on the rock, so the lawyer starts telling them 
>> > about liability and stuff. He persuades the village it's in their own 
>> > interest not to put out the buoy.
>> > There hasn't been one marking the rock for 3 years now.
>> >
>> > sam :-)
>> >   Original Message
>> > From: Lee Youngblood
>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:53 AM
>> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> > Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> > Subject: Stus-List importing boats/lawyers - argh!
>> >
>> > With all the discussion about importing boats into Canada, I wondered
>> > if our friend to the North hadn't imported way too many of our lousy
>> > lawyers. Yes, we want the lawyers to go away, but not like this!
>> >
>> > Too many things are marked "Not for Navigational Use", and now Canada
>> > has this "Waiver of Responsibility"
>> >
>> > Notice to Mariners / Special Notice to Mariners
>> > Notice of updates to charts and other publications
>> > https://www.notmar.gc.ca/go.php?doc=eng/index
>> >
>> > Can't we send this type of lawyer and their ilk to Somalia!
>> >
>> > Yuck!
>> >
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Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow

[Rich Knowles]

Mebbe you're simply addicted to the fumes... That PG stuff is intoxicating. 

Rich


> On Apr 1, 2014, at 22:13, Jim Watts  wrote:
> 
> For those folks who have painted hulls who exclaim that they only have to wax 
> them...we're not talking about painted hulls.
> Sure, I'd love to paint my hull and that would make life much easier because 
> then I would only have to rub it with a couple of dead squirrels every spring 
> to keep it looking wonderful.
> However, I have original gelcoat, and I am using Poli Glow because I can't 
> afford to have the hull painted and I'm too lazy to do a wax job every year. 
> Capice?
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> 
> 
>> On 1 April 2014 16:53, Jake Brodersen  wrote:
>> John,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I am a Poli-Glow user and have been for the past 6 or 7 years.  It makes my 
>> boat shine.  The annual maintenance coats are easy to apply.  I’ve 
>> compounded several boats and have had good results, but with 28 year old 
>> gelcoat, Poli-Glow is just too easy to pass up.  We always get good 
>> compliments on the shine.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Jake
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Jake Brodersen
>> 
>> “Midnight Mistress”
>> 
>> C&C 35 Mk-III
>> 
>> Hampton Va
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
>> johnr...@aol.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 10:22 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Poli-Glow
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Waxed the hull last year.  Thinking of going to Poli-Glow.  I am told this 
>> is difficult.  Comments?  Opinions?  Experiences?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> John McLaughlin
>> 
>> C&C29 Mark II
>> 
>> "Falcon"
>> 
>>  
>> 
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