[ccp4bb] ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz TAR error

2008-12-04 Thread Michael Weyand
Dear Charles,

to your information:

I just downloaded the Version 6.1 source tar file to my x86_64 Linux box
(SuSE 10.2, AMD64) and got the following tar error message.
All other (LINUX-386 and both COOCH and PHASER) tar files were fine!!

---> SNIP
...
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/ps.resource
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/full_names.list
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/mon_lib_ind.cif
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/mon_lib_ind2.cif
tar: Skipping to next header
tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers

gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

---> SNIP

May be a corrupt file?

Regards
Michael

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Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz TAR error

2008-12-04 Thread Winter, G (Graeme)
Dear Michael,

How did you do the download? I have just downloaded this file using the old 
fashioned command line ftp method, and it worked fine. I expect that there has 
been an error somewhere in the transmission.

If you fetch the file from:

ftp ftp.ccp4.ac.uk
cd ccp4/6.1
get ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz

you should find that everything is fine. If not, please get in touch directly 
with the helpdesk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will try to work out what is 
happening.

Thanks & best wishes,

Graeme




-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Michael Weyand
Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 8:59 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz  TAR error
 
Dear Charles,

to your information:

I just downloaded the Version 6.1 source tar file to my x86_64 Linux box
(SuSE 10.2, AMD64) and got the following tar error message.
All other (LINUX-386 and both COOCH and PHASER) tar files were fine!!

---> SNIP
...
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/ps.resource
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/full_names.list
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/mon_lib_ind.cif
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/mon_lib_ind2.cif
tar: Skipping to next header
tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers

gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

---> SNIP

May be a corrupt file?

Regards
Michael

-- 
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   Max-Planck-Institut fuer molekulare Physiologie, Otto-Hahn-Strasse 11
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Re: [ccp4bb] Temperature factor discrepancy

2008-12-04 Thread Anastassis Perrakis

Hi Wim,

I think that the main question I would ask is how you calculate the  
Wilson B factor with 3.0-3.5 A data ...
We have done a rather big study of about 12,000 structures and below  
2.5 A, how you calculate the B can result to
major discrepancies. There is hardly a line to get the gradient of. If  
you use some scaling to an ideal plot like BEST or ARP/wARP
(same algorithm there) the minimizer and 'spikes' can have a huge  
influence.


btw, have you optimized in both cases the Bfactor restraints weight ?
I wonder if that would change things (it will change the FreeR ...)

See Ian Tickle's article
http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2007/12/00/gx5119/index.html

I would also expect to use tighter geometry in this resolution btw ...!
(don't be fooled if the current rmsd gives the lower Rfree: if you  
change B weight this will very likely change!)


btw, why not use TLS ? For one thing you will get better FreeR and  
hopefully better B factor refinement ...!


A.


PS If you want to try things overnight I tend to do something like this:

#!/bin/csh -f
#
echo "xweight bweight rfactorrfree  rmszbonds"  > stats.log
foreach xweight ( 0.04 0.06 0.08 0.1 0.12 0.14 0.16 0.18 0.20 0.25 0.30)
foreach bweight ( 0.1 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1.0 1.2 1.4 1.6 1.8 2.0 2.5 3.0 )
#

#Put you REFMAC script here
# As you can eg obtain it from 'Run and View Command file
# make sure it has these two lines
weight MATRIX ${xweight}
temp ${bweight} 2.0 3.0 2.0 3.0
#
###
echo -n ${xweight} ${bweight} >> stats.log
#The line below will grep the right thing if you do 20 cycles of  
refinement 10 TLS, 10 normal in my case
awk '(NF=11){if ($1==20) print $2, $3, $8}' refmac_${xweight}_$ 
{bweight}.log  >> stats.log

end
end
#



On Dec 3, 2008, at 16:59, Wim Burmeister wrote:

I should have given the precision that the problem remains  
unaffected by a change of the resolution range (even if I use for  
example only 4.5 to 3 A resolution).
I am not using TLS and the data are quite isotropic. Rcryst values  
are as expected for such a structure.

Anopther 3.5 A dataset does not show the problem (right column).
Wilson plot B-factor [Å2]

66

43

Refinement





Rcryst

0.186 (0.259)

0.190 (0.239)

Rfree

0.268 (0.408)

0.256 (0.278)

Rms deviations from ideal bondlengths (Å)

0.020

0.018

Rms deviations from ideal bond angles (°)

2.0

1.9

Average B-factor [Å2]

39

46

Values for the highest resolution bin are given in brackets.



Cheers

Wim

Wim Burmeister a écrit :


Dear all,

I have a 3 A structure refined with REFMAC which gives consistently  
average atomic B-factors of 40 A2, whereas the B factor from a  
Wilson plot is about 60 A2. Is there any explanation for such a  
discrepancy?

There are no obvious problems:
No twinning, spacegroup P21 with two molecules in the asu, no  
proper ncs symmetry. No pathologic Wilson plot, complete and  
redundant dataset (although collected on several crystals with  
serious problems due to radiation damage).
Interestingly, the Wilson plot of the Fcalc values is about 60 A2  
as for Fobs in the output dataset.


Yours

Wim




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Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz TAR error

2008-12-04 Thread Tim Gruene
A fast and simple method to check whether the downloaded file is corrupt 
is to calculate checksums, e.g. md5 or sha - corresponding programs should 
be available on most Unix/ Linux systems. It depends, however, on York 
calculating the checksum and putting it next to the actual archive for 
downloading.


Tim

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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A


On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Winter, G (Graeme) wrote:


Dear Michael,

How did you do the download? I have just downloaded this file using the old 
fashioned command line ftp method, and it worked fine. I expect that there has 
been an error somewhere in the transmission.

If you fetch the file from:

ftp ftp.ccp4.ac.uk
cd ccp4/6.1
get ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz

you should find that everything is fine. If not, please get in touch directly 
with the helpdesk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will try to work out what is 
happening.

Thanks & best wishes,

Graeme




-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Michael Weyand
Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 8:59 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz  TAR error

Dear Charles,

to your information:

I just downloaded the Version 6.1 source tar file to my x86_64 Linux box
(SuSE 10.2, AMD64) and got the following tar error message.
All other (LINUX-386 and both COOCH and PHASER) tar files were fine!!

---> SNIP
...
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/ps.resource
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/full_names.list
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/mon_lib_ind.cif
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/mon_lib_ind2.cif
tar: Skipping to next header
tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers

gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

---> SNIP

May be a corrupt file?

Regards
Michael

--
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  Max-Planck-Institut fuer molekulare Physiologie, Otto-Hahn-Strasse 11
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08028 Barcelona, Spain
Email:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Applicants should send a copy of their academic records as well as the
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than January 15th, 2009.




Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz TAR error

2008-12-04 Thread Winter, G (Graeme)
Hi Tim,

You are the third person to make this very sensible suggestion. Once we
actually release the software we will be sure to do this! The limiting
step at the moment is that many small changes are going in (you will
have noticed the absence of a release announcement) which of course
change the checksums.

It is not "York" but the CCP4 core team at Daresbury who will need to do
this, and we will.

Thanks & best wishes,

Graeme

 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Gruene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 December 2008 10:11
To: Winter, G (Graeme)
Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz TAR error

A fast and simple method to check whether the downloaded file is corrupt
is to calculate checksums, e.g. md5 or sha - corresponding programs
should be available on most Unix/ Linux systems. It depends, however, on
York calculating the checksum and putting it next to the actual archive
for downloading.

Tim

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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A


On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Winter, G (Graeme) wrote:

> Dear Michael,
>
> How did you do the download? I have just downloaded this file using
the old fashioned command line ftp method, and it worked fine. I expect
that there has been an error somewhere in the transmission.
>
> If you fetch the file from:
>
> ftp ftp.ccp4.ac.uk
> cd ccp4/6.1
> get ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz
>
> you should find that everything is fine. If not, please get in touch
directly with the helpdesk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will try to work
out what is happening.
>
> Thanks & best wishes,
>
> Graeme
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Michael Weyand
> Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 8:59 AM
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: [ccp4bb] ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz  TAR error
>
> Dear Charles,
>
> to your information:
>
> I just downloaded the Version 6.1 source tar file to my x86_64 Linux
box
> (SuSE 10.2, AMD64) and got the following tar error message.
> All other (LINUX-386 and both COOCH and PHASER) tar files were fine!!
>
> ---> SNIP
> ...
> ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/ps.resource
> ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/full_names.list
> ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/mon_lib_ind.cif
> ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/mon_lib_ind2.cif
> tar: Skipping to next header
> tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers
>
> gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
> tar: Child returned status 1
> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
>
> ---> SNIP
>
> May be a corrupt file?
>
> Regards
> Michael
>
> -- 
> Dr. Michael Weyand mail:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Max-Planck-Institut fuer molekulare Physiologie, Otto-Hahn-Strasse
11
> D-44227 Dortmund, Germany, fon: +49(0)231-133-2738, fax:
+49(0)231-133-2797
>


Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz TAR error

2008-12-04 Thread Tim Gruene

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I have to apologise: For some reason I assumed that the ccp4-server (or 
the people who package the suite) was located in York, which - as I have 
been pointed out to - is not true. I would like to apologise for my 
prejudice. Anyway I did not mean to blame anyone, my comment was meant as 
a suggestion.


Tim

- --
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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A


On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Tim Gruene wrote:

A fast and simple method to check whether the downloaded file is corrupt is 
to calculate checksums, e.g. md5 or sha - corresponding programs should be 
available on most Unix/ Linux systems. It depends, however, on York 
calculating the checksum and putting it next to the actual archive for 
downloading.


Tim

--
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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A


On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Winter, G (Graeme) wrote:


Dear Michael,

How did you do the download? I have just downloaded this file using the old 
fashioned command line ftp method, and it worked fine. I expect that there 
has been an error somewhere in the transmission.


If you fetch the file from:

ftp ftp.ccp4.ac.uk
cd ccp4/6.1
get ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz

you should find that everything is fine. If not, please get in touch 
directly with the helpdesk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will try to work out 
what is happening.


Thanks & best wishes,

Graeme




-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Michael Weyand
Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 8:59 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] ccp4-6.1.0-core-src.tar.gz  TAR error

Dear Charles,

to your information:

I just downloaded the Version 6.1 source tar file to my x86_64 Linux box
(SuSE 10.2, AMD64) and got the following tar error message.
All other (LINUX-386 and both COOCH and PHASER) tar files were fine!!

---> SNIP
...
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/ps.resource
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/full_names.list
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/mon_lib_ind.cif
ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/monomers/mon_lib_ind2.cif
tar: Skipping to next header
tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers

gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

---> SNIP

May be a corrupt file?

Regards
Michael

--
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  Max-Planck-Institut fuer molekulare Physiologie, Otto-Hahn-Strasse 11
D-44227 Dortmund, Germany, fon: +49(0)231-133-2738, fax: +49(0)231-133-2797




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Re: [ccp4bb] getting weak diffracting crystals

2008-12-04 Thread artem
Dear Deb,

We've seen the detrimental effects of local disorder time and tme again.
So - yes it is very likely that the putative disordered loops
detrimentally affect the quality of your crystals.

You can try to engineer your protein to be better - it usually takes a
number of internally engineered constructs to get things right (about 10
per 350aa protein, in my experience). This is different from terminal
truncations - which also can have a huge effect on crystallization.

You might also try some of the methods summarized here:
http://www.xtals.org/pdfs/rescue_crystals.pdf


Cheers,

Artem
>   
> Dear Members,
>
> I am getting crystals of my protein. The secondary structure prediction
> implies that it has N-terminal with high degree of loop regions. I also
> get some mountable crystals yielding weak diffraction pattern(10 A). The
> quality of the crystals can also be assumed from its texture for it has
> tortuous surface. The big crystals are achieved at very high concentration
> in hanging drop method (44mg/ml) whereas the initial hit (small crystals)
> is at lower concentration in sitting drop (~ 5mg/ml).
>
> I have some queries about it. Does the N –terminal loop regions are having
> any effect of the crystal quality. Any suggestions of its quality
> improvement are welcome. I will be highly benefited with your generous
> replies.
>
> Sincerely
> Deb
>


[ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Tim Gruene

Dear all,

we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein 
concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and 
especially recommendations.


We don't need anything fancy, a small, fast device would be sufficient.

Tim


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Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A


Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Chavas Leo

Dear Tim --

On 4 Dec 2008, at 15:16, Tim Gruene wrote:
we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein  
concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and  
especially recommendations.


I love the Nanodrop system... I know you said you don't want anything  
fancy, but I like to spend as little protein as possible when  
measuring its concentration, and I like it fast and reproducible.  
Plus, in my hands, the Nanodrop system give very reproducible  
results. Small problem... expensive...

You can find infos there:
http://www.nanodrop.com/nd-1000-overview.html

HTH
Kind regards.

-- Leo --

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Marie Curie Actions Fellow

Faculty of Life Sciences
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Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread James M. Vergis
I would also recommend the nanodrop.  It takes a whole spectra every
measurement and there is no need to dilute your sample.  You can demo it for
a week and try it out.  



James M. Vergis, Ph.D.
University of Virginia Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics
MKWEINR 360A Snyder Building
480 Ray C. Hunt Drive
PO Box  800886
Charlottesville, VA 22908-0886
phone: 434-243-2730   FAX: 434-243-8271
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-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim
Gruene
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:16 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

Dear all,

we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein 
concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and 
especially recommendations.

We don't need anything fancy, a small, fast device would be sufficient.

Tim


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Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A


Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC

2008-12-04 Thread Huiying Li
Acturally, I want to find a way to keep the OH tilted out of the 
neightbouring plane by about 10 degrees. At 2.1A resolution the REFMAC 
refinement tends to refine it into the plane even though I have included 
torsion angle restraint in the library for the ligand. I thought I could 
play with the weight or the esd of the target value but having trouble to 
achieve it. In CNS, adjusting the force constant of the target value is a 
way to tighten or loosen the restrain. I would like to know how to 
"enforce" a geometry effectively in REFMAC.


Thanks for any comments.

Huiying

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Abhinav Kumar wrote:

If you want to restrain the OH group to a plane, you need to include it in 
the plane definition, and not the torsion definition.


Thanks Abhinav 
Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Laboratory Joint Center for Structural 
Genomics Mail Stop 99 Phone: (650) 926-2992 Fax: (650) 926-3292 



Huiying Li wrote:
I want to impose restraints during REFMAC refinement on the tortion angles 
that control the tilting of an OH group from a plane in a ligand bound to 
the protein. A few things that confused me:


1. In library cif file, should I just increase or decrease the 
tor.value_angle_esd if I want to loosen or tighten the restraits?


2. What is the meaning of the last column in torsion angle parameters: 
_chem_comp_tor.period, in cif file? In the PDB output file REFMAC also 
lists the RMS and WEIGHT for the torsion angles, period 1 through 4.


3. In REFMAC gui under Geometric parameters, there is only one user 
controlled weight for torsion. By changing the weight here, does it change 
the torsion weight for all 4 periods?


Thanks in advance for the help.

Huiying




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Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Jim Fairman
We use a Beckman Coulter DU730.  It has a small footprint if lab space is an
issue.  It will do single-wavelength, multi-wavelength, or take an entire
spectrum in 0.5 nm steps if you desire.  It comes with the standard 1 ml
cuvette holder, but we also purchased the microcuvette accessory for volumes
in the 100 uL range.  We've been using the instrument for over a year now
with no problems.  Results for determining protein concentrations using the
method of Pace et al * *Protein
Sci.1995
Nov;4(11):2411-23 are very reproducible using this spec.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:37 AM, James M. Vergis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I would also recommend the nanodrop.  It takes a whole spectra every
> measurement and there is no need to dilute your sample.  You can demo it
> for
> a week and try it out.
>
>
> 
> James M. Vergis, Ph.D.
> University of Virginia Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics
> MKWEINR 360A Snyder Building
> 480 Ray C. Hunt Drive
> PO Box  800886
> Charlottesville, VA 22908-0886
> phone: 434-243-2730   FAX: 434-243-8271
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim
> Gruene
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:16 AM
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer
>
> Dear all,
>
> we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein
> concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and
> especially recommendations.
>
> We don't need anything fancy, a small, fast device would be sufficient.
>
> Tim
>
>
> --
> Tim Gruene
> Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
> Tammannstr. 4
> D-37077 Goettingen
>
> GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A
>



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Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Mischa Machius
Tim - I would recommend a spectrometer that records entire spectra,  
instead of one that takes readings at just 280 nm. Contributions from  
light scattering can be very strong and can give results that deviate  
from the true value by a factor of two or more. One cannot detect  
scattering without recording spectra. The most severe case we have had  
was someone who thought the protein concentration was 10 mg/mL (based  
on 280) when in reality (after subtraction of the scattering  
contribution) it was only 4 mg/mL. Lots of other, less severe cases as  
well. Hope that helps. Best - MM



Mischa Machius, PhD
Associate Professor
Department of Biochemistry
UT Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.; ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816; U.S.A.
Tel: +1 214 645 6381
Fax: +1 214 645 6353



On Dec 4, 2008, at 9:16 AM, Tim Gruene wrote:


Dear all,

we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein  
concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and  
especially recommendations.


We don't need anything fancy, a small, fast device would be  
sufficient.


Tim


--
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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A


Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Matthew . Franklin
CCP4 bulletin board  wrote on 12/04/2008 10:16:02
AM:

> Dear all,
>
> we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein
> concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and
> especially recommendations.
>
> We don't need anything fancy, a small, fast device would be sufficient.
>
> Tim
>
>

Hi Tim -

I'm going to add my voice to the chorus for the Nanodrop.  It's small - the
size of a Kleenex box (plus a computer to run it).  It's fast - you'll have
a reading within two minutes of walking up to the bench, and that includes
cleaning, initializing, and blanking the instrument.  You can probably
process 2-3 samples a minute if you're efficient since the actual
measurement takes only a few seconds.  There are no quartz cuvettes to
wash, indeed no cuvettes at all - you just pipet 2 ul of your sample onto
the measurement pedestal.  Cleanup is a breeze - just wipe with a damp
Kimwipe and you're done.  The light source (xenon flash lamp) doesn't need
to warm up and I've never had to change the bulb.

The software is efficient and simple - you can do a table of measurements
at a single wavelength, or full spectra in whatever wavelength range you
want (from 190-720 nm).  It measures 1 mm and 0.1 mm path lengths then
combines the spectra, so you can use a broad range of sample concentrations
without dilution - very useful for 50 mg/ml crystallization stocks!  It can
also do more sophisticated analysis, such as analyzing dye labeling
efficiency by deconvoluting the dye absorbance spectrum from the protein
absorbance spectrum.

If you get one, you'll never want to go back to the old way.  (And no, they
didn't pay me to say this!)

- Matt

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Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC

2008-12-04 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Huiying

At 2.1A I would be very surprised if you see any density for the H atom
in which case the refinement is not going to move it out of the plane
whatever weight you give the torsion restraint.  To answer your earlier
questions the period of a torsion restraint is the number of energy
minima in a complete rotation of the angle, so the OH bond will have a
period of 2, and
yes the same overall weight is applied to all torsions regardless of the
period, though individual torsions will also be weighted by 1/sd^2.

Cheers

-- Ian 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huiying Li
> Sent: 04 December 2008 16:35
> To: Abhinav Kumar
> Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC
> 
> Acturally, I want to find a way to keep the OH tilted out of the 
> neightbouring plane by about 10 degrees. At 2.1A resolution 
> the REFMAC 
> refinement tends to refine it into the plane even though I 
> have included 
> torsion angle restraint in the library for the ligand. I 
> thought I could 
> play with the weight or the esd of the target value but 
> having trouble to 
> achieve it. In CNS, adjusting the force constant of the 
> target value is a 
> way to tighten or loosen the restrain. I would like to know how to 
> "enforce" a geometry effectively in REFMAC.
> 
> Thanks for any comments.
> 
> Huiying
> 
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Abhinav Kumar wrote:
> 
> > If you want to restrain the OH group to a plane, you need 
> to include it in 
> > the plane definition, and not the torsion definition.
> >
> > Thanks Abhinav 
> > Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Laboratory Joint Center for 
> Structural 
> > Genomics Mail Stop 99 Phone: (650) 926-2992 Fax: (650) 926-3292 
> >
> >
> > Huiying Li wrote:
> >> I want to impose restraints during REFMAC refinement on 
> the tortion angles 
> >> that control the tilting of an OH group from a plane in a 
> ligand bound to 
> >> the protein. A few things that confused me:
> >> 
> >> 1. In library cif file, should I just increase or decrease the 
> >> tor.value_angle_esd if I want to loosen or tighten the restraits?
> >> 
> >> 2. What is the meaning of the last column in torsion angle 
> parameters: 
> >> _chem_comp_tor.period, in cif file? In the PDB output file 
> REFMAC also 
> >> lists the RMS and WEIGHT for the torsion angles, period 1 
> through 4.
> >> 
> >> 3. In REFMAC gui under Geometric parameters, there is only 
> one user 
> >> controlled weight for torsion. By changing the weight 
> here, does it change 
> >> the torsion weight for all 4 periods?
> >> 
> >> Thanks in advance for the help.
> >> 
> >> Huiying
> >
> 
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2008-12-04 Thread Michael Gajhede
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Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Michael Giffin
We also like the Nanodrop.  Very fast, no cuvettes (breaking, washing,
cleaning, uh nitric acid bath anyone?), and the .ndv data file is a
delimited text file.  Open in a text editor, copy and paste into a
spreadsheet, and you have a convenient record of all of your stocks,
including date, sample name, concentration, and full spectra.

It is expensive, but so are good cuvettes.


Mike


Michael Giffin
The Scripps Research Institute
Department of Molecular and Experimental Medicine
10550 North Torrey Pines Road, MEM-131
La Jolla, CA 92037
email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lab:  858-784-7758

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Tim Gruene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein
> concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and
> especially recommendations.
>
> We don't need anything fancy, a small, fast device would be sufficient.
>
> Tim
>
>
> --
> Tim Gruene
> Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
> Tammannstr. 4
> D-37077 Goettingen
>
> GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A
>


Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Patrick Loll
At the risk of dragging this discussion even further afield from  
crystallography:


How can you get realistic numbers for concentrated solutions using  
the Nanodrop?  I understand that the instrument reduces absorbance by  
using a very short path length. However, I thought that in order for  
the Beer-Lambert formalism to be applicable, the solution needs to be  
sufficiently dilute so that the chance of molecules "shadowing" one  
another is negligible. Isn't this condition violated for concentrated  
solutions (even with short path lengths)?


Pat

On 4 Dec 2008, at 1:27 PM, Michael Giffin wrote:


We also like the Nanodrop...


 
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Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread David Roberts





Wow, that's like putting a pool in your backyard so you don't have to
pay the $3.00 admission every day (I'm kidding).  In any event, Ocean
Optics has some very nice, small, and portable units that would run
around $3000 total.  These connect to the USB port in a computer and
produce data that can be manipulated easily via any spreadsheet
manipulation program (open office, whatever).  They are diode array,
and so they take quick, continuous spectrum.  We use these in our intro
chem classes (sorry, small University, we can't afford the nanodrop)
and they work great.  I believe it's the USB2000 if you go to the Ocean
Optics website.

And, for those who find cuvettes as expensive as a nanodrop system, you
can purchase polyacrylate ones that are good down to around 250 nm or
so.  They are marketed as disposable, but work well with several
washings.  They seem to be consistent from batch to batch, and we do
use them for simple 280's on things (though of course we pull out the
lock and key and get the quartz ones for those 2 special readings we
take every year).  

Now, the specs you get are good and reliable (even though we use them
with undergrads).  They are not high end Cary's, but I don't think you
need that sort of system for simple 280's.  These detectors work as
good cheap fluorimeter sources as well with some modifications on the
light source (again, look around if that's something you are interested
in).  

We use the Vernier system here, which allows us to connect
spectrophotometers (mentioned above), drop counters, pH probes,
temperature probes, and a whole variety of ion selective probes to a
computer for data collection using almost any device.  It's quite nice
actually (vernier.com I believe).  

Good luck with that

Dave

Michael Giffin wrote:

  We also like the Nanodrop.  Very fast, no cuvettes (breaking, washing,
cleaning, uh nitric acid bath anyone?), and the .ndv data file is a
delimited text file.  Open in a text editor, copy and paste into a
spreadsheet, and you have a convenient record of all of your stocks,
including date, sample name, concentration, and full spectra.

It is expensive, but so are good cuvettes.


Mike


Michael Giffin
The Scripps Research Institute
Department of Molecular and Experimental Medicine
10550 North Torrey Pines Road, MEM-131
La Jolla, CA 92037
email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lab:  858-784-7758

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Tim Gruene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  
Dear all,

we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein
concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and
especially recommendations.

We don't need anything fancy, a small, fast device would be sufficient.

Tim


--
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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A


  
  

  





Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread hari jayaram
We too have a nano-drop. We really like it , but have not  yet fully
switched over.

I agree with all the good things said about it , but here are the few times
the nano drop falls short:

1) We still use the old spec ( 1 cm path length ) for things at a very low
concentration , i.e for the monitoring free thiols in protein with ellman
reagent , the absorbances are very low and give poor reproducibility on the
nanodrop because of small path-length . Of course this can be overcome by
using a lot of protein at a higher concentration and modifying the assay.
2) For very concentrated membrane protein samples which tend to have a large
concentration of detergent . The reproducibility is not very good because of
the high concentration of deteregent preventing a proper meniscus from
forming. The solution to this is to dilute your sample so the dteergent
concentration is manageable ( a few times the CMC instead of tens of times
the CMC

Other than for these issues we almost entirely use the nanodrop and would
gladly recommend it
Hari

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Michael Giffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We also like the Nanodrop.  Very fast, no cuvettes (breaking, washing,
> cleaning, uh nitric acid bath anyone?), and the .ndv data file is a
> delimited text file.  Open in a text editor, copy and paste into a
> spreadsheet, and you have a convenient record of all of your stocks,
> including date, sample name, concentration, and full spectra.
>
> It is expensive, but so are good cuvettes.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> Michael Giffin
> The Scripps Research Institute
> Department of Molecular and Experimental Medicine
> 10550 North Torrey Pines Road, MEM-131
> La Jolla, CA 92037
> email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> lab:  858-784-7758
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Tim Gruene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein
> > concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and
> > especially recommendations.
> >
> > We don't need anything fancy, a small, fast device would be sufficient.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tim Gruene
> > Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
> > Tammannstr. 4
> > D-37077 Goettingen
> >
> > GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A
> >
>


Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Michael Giffin
If you reduce the path by a factor of 50, can you not increase the
concentration by the same factor without violating the shadowing
assumption?


Mike

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Patrick Loll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At the risk of dragging this discussion even further afield from
> crystallography:
> How can you get realistic numbers for concentrated solutions using the
> Nanodrop?  I understand that the instrument reduces absorbance by using a
> very short path length. However, I thought that in order for the
> Beer-Lambert formalism to be applicable, the solution needs to be
> sufficiently dilute so that the chance of molecules "shadowing" one another
> is negligible. Isn't this condition violated for concentrated solutions
> (even with short path lengths)?
> Pat
> On 4 Dec 2008, at 1:27 PM, Michael Giffin wrote:
>
> We also like the Nanodrop...
>
> ---
>
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>
> Professor of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
>
> Director, Biochemistry Graduate Program
>
> Drexel University College of Medicine
>
> Room 10-102 New College Building
>
> 245 N. 15th St., Mailstop 497
>
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>
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>
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[ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Clemens Steegborn
 

Hi Tim,

 

The Shimadzu UV2401PC comes at a reasonable price and has all features you
might possible need in a

Biochemistry lab. And if you like the option to use small sample volumes, I
would suggest to by a TrayCell

from Helma - you put it in a regular photometer, it guides the light through
a microliter chamber and back

into the photometer (it is essentially a cuvette with optics and a 1 or 5
microliter chamber). Costs a few

hundred Euros .

If you're sure you will never need regular cuvettes - go for Nanodrop. If
you want more flexibility, Shimadzu

plus TrayCell . 

 

Best

Clemens

 


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Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC

2008-12-04 Thread Huiying Li
Thank you all for suggestions and explanations. I did not make it clear. The 
tilt angle I wanted to restrain is the one from a C-OH bond to a plane 
(The C is in the plane). The O atom of OH group is not in the planar 
restraint in the cif file. At 2.1A I can "see" the feature of tilting of 
this OH group from the initial density map when the ligand was absent. 
But the density seems not strong enough to convince REFMAC that there is 
a tilt there. I have used very low weight term of 0.05 in the GUI to down 
weight the X-ray term. Refinement still pushed OH into the plane. I wonder 
if there are other tricks that can impose the restraint for this torsion 
angle.


Best,
Huiying

On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Ian Tickle wrote:


Hi Huiying

At 2.1A I would be very surprised if you see any density for the H atom
in which case the refinement is not going to move it out of the plane
whatever weight you give the torsion restraint.  To answer your earlier
questions the period of a torsion restraint is the number of energy
minima in a complete rotation of the angle, so the OH bond will have a
period of 2, and
yes the same overall weight is applied to all torsions regardless of the
period, though individual torsions will also be weighted by 1/sd^2.

Cheers

-- Ian


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huiying Li
Sent: 04 December 2008 16:35
To: Abhinav Kumar
Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC

Acturally, I want to find a way to keep the OH tilted out of the
neightbouring plane by about 10 degrees. At 2.1A resolution
the REFMAC
refinement tends to refine it into the plane even though I
have included
torsion angle restraint in the library for the ligand. I
thought I could
play with the weight or the esd of the target value but
having trouble to
achieve it. In CNS, adjusting the force constant of the
target value is a
way to tighten or loosen the restrain. I would like to know how to
"enforce" a geometry effectively in REFMAC.

Thanks for any comments.

Huiying

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Abhinav Kumar wrote:


If you want to restrain the OH group to a plane, you need

to include it in

the plane definition, and not the torsion definition.

Thanks Abhinav
Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Laboratory Joint Center for

Structural

Genomics Mail Stop 99 Phone: (650) 926-2992 Fax: (650) 926-3292


Huiying Li wrote:

I want to impose restraints during REFMAC refinement on

the tortion angles

that control the tilting of an OH group from a plane in a

ligand bound to

the protein. A few things that confused me:

1. In library cif file, should I just increase or decrease the
tor.value_angle_esd if I want to loosen or tighten the restraits?

2. What is the meaning of the last column in torsion angle

parameters:

_chem_comp_tor.period, in cif file? In the PDB output file

REFMAC also

lists the RMS and WEIGHT for the torsion angles, period 1

through 4.


3. In REFMAC gui under Geometric parameters, there is only

one user

controlled weight for torsion. By changing the weight

here, does it change

the torsion weight for all 4 periods?

Thanks in advance for the help.

Huiying




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Natural Sciences I, Rm 2443
University of California at Irvine
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Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Mischa Machius
One more issue regarding the Nanodrop: one has to work quite quickly  
to avoid potential evaporation. Before buying such an instrument, I  
would strongly recommend a demo and careful comparisons between the  
Nanodrop and a good, conventional spectrometer with a representative  
range of samples. Convenience is one thing...


Best - MM


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Associate Professor
Department of Biochemistry
UT Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.; ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816; U.S.A.
Tel: +1 214 645 6381
Fax: +1 214 645 6353



On Dec 4, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Patrick Loll wrote:

At the risk of dragging this discussion even further afield from  
crystallography:


How can you get realistic numbers for concentrated solutions using  
the Nanodrop?  I understand that the instrument reduces absorbance  
by using a very short path length. However, I thought that in order  
for the Beer-Lambert formalism to be applicable, the solution needs  
to be sufficiently dilute so that the chance of molecules  
"shadowing" one another is negligible. Isn't this condition violated  
for concentrated solutions (even with short path lengths)?


Pat

On 4 Dec 2008, at 1:27 PM, Michael Giffin wrote:


We also like the Nanodrop...


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Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC

2008-12-04 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Thursday 04 December 2008 11:50:30 Huiying Li wrote:
> Thank you all for suggestions and explanations. I did not make it clear. The 
> tilt angle I wanted to restrain is the one from a C-OH bond to a plane 
> (The C is in the plane). The O atom of OH group is not in the planar 
> restraint in the cif file. At 2.1A I can "see" the feature of tilting of 
> this OH group from the initial density map when the ligand was absent. 
> But the density seems not strong enough to convince REFMAC that there is 
> a tilt there. I have used very low weight term of 0.05 in the GUI to down 
> weight the X-ray term. Refinement still pushed OH into the plane. I wonder 
> if there are other tricks that can impose the restraint for this torsion 
> angle.

From your description, it is still likely that a planarity restraint
is involved, rather than a torsion restraint.

Perhaps you should post the library *.cif file that you are using for this
compound.

Ethan

> 
> Best,
> Huiying
> 
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Ian Tickle wrote:
> 
> > Hi Huiying
> > 
> > At 2.1A I would be very surprised if you see any density for the H atom
> > in which case the refinement is not going to move it out of the plane
> > whatever weight you give the torsion restraint.  To answer your earlier
> > questions the period of a torsion restraint is the number of energy
> > minima in a complete rotation of the angle, so the OH bond will have a
> > period of 2, and
> > yes the same overall weight is applied to all torsions regardless of the
> > period, though individual torsions will also be weighted by 1/sd^2.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > -- Ian
> > 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huiying Li
> >> Sent: 04 December 2008 16:35
> >> To: Abhinav Kumar
> >> Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> >> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC
> >> 
> >> Acturally, I want to find a way to keep the OH tilted out of the
> >> neightbouring plane by about 10 degrees. At 2.1A resolution
> >> the REFMAC
> >> refinement tends to refine it into the plane even though I
> >> have included
> >> torsion angle restraint in the library for the ligand. I
> >> thought I could
> >> play with the weight or the esd of the target value but
> >> having trouble to
> >> achieve it. In CNS, adjusting the force constant of the
> >> target value is a
> >> way to tighten or loosen the restrain. I would like to know how to
> >> "enforce" a geometry effectively in REFMAC.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for any comments.
> >> 
> >> Huiying
> >> 
> >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Abhinav Kumar wrote:
> >> 
> >>> If you want to restrain the OH group to a plane, you need
> >> to include it in
> >>> the plane definition, and not the torsion definition.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks Abhinav
> >>> Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Laboratory Joint Center for
> >> Structural
> >>> Genomics Mail Stop 99 Phone: (650) 926-2992 Fax: (650) 926-3292
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Huiying Li wrote:
>  I want to impose restraints during REFMAC refinement on
> >> the tortion angles
>  that control the tilting of an OH group from a plane in a
> >> ligand bound to
>  the protein. A few things that confused me:
>  
>  1. In library cif file, should I just increase or decrease the
>  tor.value_angle_esd if I want to loosen or tighten the restraits?
>  
>  2. What is the meaning of the last column in torsion angle
> >> parameters:
>  _chem_comp_tor.period, in cif file? In the PDB output file
> >> REFMAC also
>  lists the RMS and WEIGHT for the torsion angles, period 1
> >> through 4.
>  
>  3. In REFMAC gui under Geometric parameters, there is only
> >> one user
>  controlled weight for torsion. By changing the weight
> >> here, does it change
>  the torsion weight for all 4 periods?
>  
>  Thanks in advance for the help.
>  
>  Huiying
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Huiying Li, Ph. D
> >> Department of Molecular Biology and Biochemistry
> >> Natural Sciences I, Rm 2443
> >> University of California at Irvine
> >> Irvine, CA 92697, USA
> >> Tel: 949-824-4322(or -1953);  Fax: 949-824-3280
> >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[ccp4bb] error message for using xfit in ccp4

2008-12-04 Thread Mona Rahman
Hello all,

We would appreciate your help on an error message one of our graduate students 
has encountered using Xfit in CCP4.  You can respond to him directly at:  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Thank you
Mona Rahman


 Forwarded Message 
---

Thanks Mona

Here is error message for using the xfit in ccp4.

 xfit
Starting XtalView 4.0 for OS: Linux version: 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686.PAE
Copyright (C) 1992-9 Duncan McRee and The Scripps Research Institute
Set LANG to C
Color Table initialized with 136 values from /usr/local/XtalView/data/colors.dat
XView warning: Cannot load font '-b&h-lucida-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*' 
(Font package)
XView warning: Cannot load font 
'-b&h-lucida-medium-r-normal-sans-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*' (Font package)
XView error: Cannot open connection to window server: :0.0 (Server package)

We are using Fedora 10 

Thanks

Jimin

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Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC

2008-12-04 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Huiyang

OK sorry for misunderstanding.  I think that kind of out-of-plane
restraint is usually enforced by means of a chiral restraint (even if
the group in question is not chiral).  You would need to calculate the
expected chiral volume of the C atom for the target position of the O
atom.

Cheers

-- Ian

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huiying Li
> Sent: 04 December 2008 19:51
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC
> 
> Thank you all for suggestions and explanations. I did not 
> make it clear. The 
> tilt angle I wanted to restrain is the one from a C-OH bond 
> to a plane 
> (The C is in the plane). The O atom of OH group is not in the planar 
> restraint in the cif file. At 2.1A I can "see" the feature of 
> tilting of 
> this OH group from the initial density map when the ligand 
> was absent. 
> But the density seems not strong enough to convince REFMAC 
> that there is 
> a tilt there. I have used very low weight term of 0.05 in the 
> GUI to down 
> weight the X-ray term. Refinement still pushed OH into the 
> plane. I wonder 
> if there are other tricks that can impose the restraint for 
> this torsion 
> angle.
> 
> Best,
> Huiying
> 
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Ian Tickle wrote:
> 
> > Hi Huiying
> > 
> > At 2.1A I would be very surprised if you see any density 
> for the H atom
> > in which case the refinement is not going to move it out of 
> the plane
> > whatever weight you give the torsion restraint.  To answer 
> your earlier
> > questions the period of a torsion restraint is the number of energy
> > minima in a complete rotation of the angle, so the OH bond 
> will have a
> > period of 2, and
> > yes the same overall weight is applied to all torsions 
> regardless of the
> > period, though individual torsions will also be weighted by 1/sd^2.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > -- Ian
> > 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huiying Li
> >> Sent: 04 December 2008 16:35
> >> To: Abhinav Kumar
> >> Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> >> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC
> >> 
> >> Acturally, I want to find a way to keep the OH tilted out of the
> >> neightbouring plane by about 10 degrees. At 2.1A resolution
> >> the REFMAC
> >> refinement tends to refine it into the plane even though I
> >> have included
> >> torsion angle restraint in the library for the ligand. I
> >> thought I could
> >> play with the weight or the esd of the target value but
> >> having trouble to
> >> achieve it. In CNS, adjusting the force constant of the
> >> target value is a
> >> way to tighten or loosen the restrain. I would like to know how to
> >> "enforce" a geometry effectively in REFMAC.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for any comments.
> >> 
> >> Huiying
> >> 
> >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Abhinav Kumar wrote:
> >> 
> >>> If you want to restrain the OH group to a plane, you need
> >> to include it in
> >>> the plane definition, and not the torsion definition.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks Abhinav
> >>> Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Laboratory Joint Center for
> >> Structural
> >>> Genomics Mail Stop 99 Phone: (650) 926-2992 Fax: (650) 926-3292
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Huiying Li wrote:
>  I want to impose restraints during REFMAC refinement on
> >> the tortion angles
>  that control the tilting of an OH group from a plane in a
> >> ligand bound to
>  the protein. A few things that confused me:
>  
>  1. In library cif file, should I just increase or decrease the
>  tor.value_angle_esd if I want to loosen or tighten the restraits?
>  
>  2. What is the meaning of the last column in torsion angle
> >> parameters:
>  _chem_comp_tor.period, in cif file? In the PDB output file
> >> REFMAC also
>  lists the RMS and WEIGHT for the torsion angles, period 1
> >> through 4.
>  
>  3. In REFMAC gui under Geometric parameters, there is only
> >> one user
>  controlled weight for torsion. By changing the weight
> >> here, does it change
>  the torsion weight for all 4 periods?
>  
>  Thanks in advance for the help.
>  
>  Huiying
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Huiying Li, Ph. D
> >> Department of Molecular Biology and Biochemistry
> >> Natural Sciences I, Rm 2443
> >> University of California at Irvine
> >> Irvine, CA 92697, USA
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Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Filip Van Petegem
I want to add I absotely hate the nanodrop.  We've had a demo for it, and
found the readouts to be very unreliable.  Fluctuations of 20% and more.
Just leaving the same drop in and measuring the sample multiple times gives
different values (going in both directions, so not only due to
evaportations). Sure, it's easy and fast, and maybe good to have a rough
idea about your protein concentration, but I would never want to use it for
exact measurements such as needed for e.g. a CD or an ITC instrument. I've
heard other labs in our department have similar issues.  We've also had a
demo for the Nanovue from GE Healthcare:  same issues - very large
fluctuations from one sample to another.  I suppose this is simply an
inherent problem with small volumes...

Cheers

Filip Van Petegm



On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Patrick Loll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At the risk of dragging this discussion even further afield from
> crystallography:
> How can you get realistic numbers for concentrated solutions using the
> Nanodrop?  I understand that the instrument reduces absorbance by using a
> very short path length. However, I thought that in order for the
> Beer-Lambert formalism to be applicable, the solution needs to be
> sufficiently dilute so that the chance of molecules "shadowing" one another
> is negligible. Isn't this condition violated for concentrated solutions
> (even with short path lengths)?
>
> Pat
>
> On 4 Dec 2008, at 1:27 PM, Michael Giffin wrote:
>
> We also like the Nanodrop...
>
>
> ---
>
> Patrick J. Loll, Ph. D.
>
> Professor of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
>
> Director, Biochemistry Graduate Program
>
> Drexel University College of Medicine
>
> Room 10-102 New College Building
>
> 245 N. 15th St., Mailstop 497
>
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>
>
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>
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>
>


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Re: [ccp4bb] tortion angle restraints in REFMAC

2008-12-04 Thread Matthew . Franklin
CCP4 bulletin board  wrote on 12/04/2008 02:50:30
PM:

> Thank you all for suggestions and explanations. I did not make it clear.
The
> tilt angle I wanted to restrain is the one from a C-OH bond to a plane
> (The C is in the plane). The O atom of OH group is not in the planar
> restraint in the cif file. At 2.1A I can "see" the feature of tilting of
> this OH group from the initial density map when the ligand was absent.
> But the density seems not strong enough to convince REFMAC that there is
> a tilt there. I have used very low weight term of 0.05 in the GUI to down

> weight the X-ray term. Refinement still pushed OH into the plane. I
wonder
> if there are other tricks that can impose the restraint for this torsion
> angle.
>
> Best,
> Huiying

Hi Huiying -

Before you spend more time adjusting your cif files, you should try
adjusting your refinement weight.  As you said, you see a density feature
that's inconsistent with the standard protein geometry.  If you down-weight
the X-ray term too much, all you will see in the final model is the
standard protein geometry enforced by the cif file.  Try raising the
refinement weight to 0.08 or 0.1 and see if you can capture the
out-of-plane OH in your model without sacrificing your R factors or other
model geometry terms.

You should also look at the model to see *why* your OH is coming out of the
plane.  Is there a steric clash pushing it, or a hydrogen bond pulling it?
If there is an H-bond, perhaps you need to adjust the position of the H
donor/acceptor so that Refmac recognizes the bond.  Perhaps you need to
flip an Asn/Gln side chain so that the N and O switch positions?

Finally, re-reading your initial email, I see that this C-OH is in the
ligand.  Did you create the cif file for this ligand yourself, or is this
in some standard dictionary?  When I've made cif files for non-standard
ligands (using Refmac), I've observed that the algorithm tends to put
expand plane definitions (e.g. from conjugated ring systems) to include too
many neighboring atoms.  I needed to trim the plane definitions and delete
a lot of inappropriate torsion angle restraints before my ligands would
refine correctly.

- Matt

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Re: [ccp4bb] suggestions for UV spectrometer

2008-12-04 Thread Roger Rowlett




We have an Ocean Optics USB-4000 unit in our lab. It does everything
from quantifying protein and nucleic acids, spectrophotometric
titrations, and metalloenzyme spectra at low volume/concentration. It's
not a toy, but a diode array spectrophotometer that has excellent S/N
and resolution. You can get a fully thermostatted unit for under $9000,
and an integrated, bulletproof non-thermostatted unit for under $3500
for UV and visible spectra. These units are also expandable and
re-configurable for different tasks. Beats the tar our of our HP diode
arrays, which were reliable, but not as capable. Cells from Starna run
from $150 (semimicro) to $250 (micro cells). We've never found them
difficult to clean. A vacuum-based cell cleaner is a good investment
that can clean and dry cells quickly.

-- 

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Colgate University Presidential Scholar
Department of Chemistry
Colgate University
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David Roberts wrote:

  
  
Wow, that's like putting a pool in your backyard so you don't have to
pay the $3.00 admission every day (I'm kidding).  In any event, Ocean
Optics has some very nice, small, and portable units that would run
around $3000 total.  These connect to the USB port in a computer and
produce data that can be manipulated easily via any spreadsheet
manipulation program (open office, whatever).  They are diode array,
and so they take quick, continuous spectrum.  We use these in our intro
chem classes (sorry, small University, we can't afford the nanodrop)
and they work great.  I believe it's the USB2000 if you go to the Ocean
Optics website.
  
And, for those who find cuvettes as expensive as a nanodrop system, you
can purchase polyacrylate ones that are good down to around 250 nm or
so.  They are marketed as disposable, but work well with several
washings.  They seem to be consistent from batch to batch, and we do
use them for simple 280's on things (though of course we pull out the
lock and key and get the quartz ones for those 2 special readings we
take every year).  
  
Now, the specs you get are good and reliable (even though we use them
with undergrads).  They are not high end Cary's, but I don't think you
need that sort of system for simple 280's.  These detectors work as
good cheap fluorimeter sources as well with some modifications on the
light source (again, look around if that's something you are interested
in).  
  
We use the Vernier system here, which allows us to connect
spectrophotometers (mentioned above), drop counters, pH probes,
temperature probes, and a whole variety of ion selective probes to a
computer for data collection using almost any device.  It's quite nice
actually (vernier.com I believe).  
  
Good luck with that
  
Dave
  
Michael Giffin wrote:
  
We also like the Nanodrop.  Very fast, no cuvettes (breaking, washing,
cleaning, uh nitric acid bath anyone?), and the .ndv data file is a
delimited text file.  Open in a text editor, copy and paste into a
spreadsheet, and you have a convenient record of all of your stocks,
including date, sample name, concentration, and full spectra.

It is expensive, but so are good cuvettes.


Mike


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  Dear all,

we would like to purchase a UV spectrometer for measuring protein
concentrations (280nm), and I would like to here your comments and
especially recommendations.

We don't need anything fancy, a small, fast device would be sufficient.

Tim


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Re: [ccp4bb] Offtopic: FAD enzymatic assay

2008-12-04 Thread michael nelson
Dear all,

I may sound stupid enough.

I tried the PMS-DCPIP assay system as suggested, and I choose to observe the 
absorption at 600nM. However, when I initialize the reaction, I actually see 
the Abs slowly but steadily increasing rather than decreasing.

How the FAD interact with the enzyme is really unknown. No structure is 
available. The only thing I know is that there is a FAD binding domain. I don't 
know if it's dissociable or remain bound during the reaction

Another question might be how to properly dissolve lipid for assay. I currently 
dissolve them using hexane and then add them to Tris-Chaps buffer (pH ~7, and 
about 10mM Chaps). Is there a better way to dissolve them for assay.


Please advise.





michael nelson wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> Thank you for all your kind replies.
> 
> Here is a little bit more about the enzyme and how I carry out the assay
at the first place.
> 
> My enzyme is a lipid desaturase, originally from plant but overexpressed
in bacteria. FAD serves as a co-factor for this enzyme, in which FAD is reduced
to FADH2.
> 
> My goal is set up an assay that would allows me to continuously monitor
the progress of the reaction. And I didn't want to use HPLC to analyze the
final product since that would take a lot time and we don't have an
instrument readily available to us. I wish FAD could be an alternative way since
FAD will have different Abs in reduced or oxidized forms.
> 
> I set up assay is a regular lab setting (not anaerobic), add FAD,
substrate, ions and incubate. I finally add enzyme to initialize the reaction. I
expect to see some decrease of the Ab at 450 nM. But I didn't.
> 
> I have several concerns, one is the autooxidisability of FAD, how fast
FADH2 would be reoxidized by O2 in the air or by the O2 dissolved in solution.
The second cocern is how fast the FAD reaction will go.
> 
> Please advise.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Mike
> 
> 



  

[ccp4bb] refmac 5.5 error with ARPwARP7.0.1

2008-12-04 Thread Michael Jackson
Hello,
  I have attached a log file from a refmac refinement output that was initiated 
by ARPwARP (the flexwarp program in CCP4) after an initial model building was 
determined good.  This is the refmac model refinement when the ARPwARP program 
starts a separate job to refine or finalize the model while the main algorithm 
continues. I have not had this problem with refmac 5.4 or 5.2. This error comes 
up most of the time but on occasion it will not. Other than this the ARPwARP in 
CCP4 and refmac refinement work as usual.
 Thanks in advance.



  

Refmac13.log
Description: Binary data


[ccp4bb] ion exchange chromatography problem

2008-12-04 Thread Subscribe Ccp4Bb Kn L
Hello everyone, 

I have a question about ion exchange chromatography.
- I have a membrane protein (pI 9.5),  13 KDa
- It's fused to MBP (maltose binding protein pI 5.1,  44 KDa) to prevent
inclusion body formation during high level expresscion.
- The final protein has a pI of 6.1, 57 KDa
--> The protein is solublised in 1% TX, Tris 20 mM pH 8.0 20 mM NaCl.
However, it doesn't bind to the column equilibrated in the same buffer
condition.

Can anyone help me with this problem? Is it because of the pI difference
between the membrane protein and the fusion partner?

Many thanks


[ccp4bb] membrane protein not solubilised

2008-12-04 Thread Subscribe Ccp4Bb Kn L
Hello everyone,

I am working on a yeast membrane protein, about 100 KDa.
The protein is expressed as an inclusion body in E coli even at 18 C. The
problem is solved when MBP is fused to the N terminus of the protein.
The resulting protein is ~140 KDa, pI 6.0. The expression level is moderate.
After cell disruption and fractionation by high speed spin (100K g), the
protein land in the pellet fraction as expected for a membrane protein.
The pellet is then solublised in various conditions and assessed for solubility.
Buffer I used: 50 mM phosphate pH 7.5, 250 mM NaCl, 5% Glycerol
With different detergents at final concentration of
 - 0.1% ~ 4% Trition X 100
 - 4% OG
 - 2% DDM
 - 2% DM
 - 4% CHAPS
 - 2% C8En
 - 2% C12En
 - 2% Cymal-4,-5,-6
 - 2% MEGA-10
 - 2% HEGA-10
 - 2% SDS

Only SDS can completely solubilise the protein, other detergents solublise
less than 10%...

Can anyone offer some advice? really appreciated

Kien


[ccp4bb] off-topic : detergent as cryoprotectant?

2008-12-04 Thread deliang
Hi there,

I have trouble with normal glycerol cryoprotectant. My protein crystals seems 
not stable in it. However, my mother liquor has extremely high concertration of 
Nonyl-maltoside (estimated ~20%, this membrane protein really needs that high 
detergent, sounds weird.8)So, I am wondering anyone with successful 
experience using detergents as cryoprotant can give some comments.  If they 
works well, that means I can directly fish some crystals out of mother liquor 
without adding other cryos. 

Thanks a lot.

Deliang

[ccp4bb] Postdoc position in University of Texas Houston Medical School

2008-12-04 Thread Zheng, Lei
Dear bbers,

 

Sorry to post a job here...

 

One postdoctoral position is available immediately at the Center for
Membrane Biology, Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, The
University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston.
(http://www.uth.tmc.edu/cmb/) The successful candidate will focus on
crystallization and structural determination of ion transporter
proteins. She/He will also have an opportunity to work with other
expertise in the Center to study transporter functional
characterization. 
 
The ideal applicant should be a highly motivated individual and have a
recent PhD degree in structural biology, biochemistry or molecular
biology. Strong background in molecular biology, protein purification
and crystallization is expected. Any experience with membrane protein
will be a plus. 
 
Our laboratory locates in Texas Medical Center campus which provides an
excellent environment for academia and research. The lab is fully
equipped with all aspects of molecular biology, protein biochemistry and
protein crystallography. Instant access to ALS beamline 4.2.2 is granted
as a member of Molecular Biology Consortium. 
 
To apply, please email me your current resume including the names and
addresses of three referees.

Thank you,

Lei 

 



Lei Zheng, Ph.D

Assistant professor

Center for Membrane Biology

Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology

University of Texas Medical School at Houston

6431 Fannin St. MSB 5.210

Houston, TX-77030

Tel.: (713)500-6083

Fax: (713)500-0545

 



Re: [ccp4bb] ion exchange chromatography problem

2008-12-04 Thread Subscribe Ccp4Bb Kn L
...forgot to mention

I used Q sepherose from Sigma for the IEC


Re: [ccp4bb] getting weak diffracting crystals

2008-12-04 Thread Debajyoti Dutta
  
Hi again,

Thank you for your reply.

I know that the loop regions are notorious for crystallization however in this 
case it is yielding the crystals but with lower quality. Does it not due to the 
quick crystallization, the lattice has no time to form up. That’s why it is 
happening. 

Can I not opt for glycerol, or sitting drop method.

Sincerely
Deb


On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
>Dear Deb,
>
>We've seen the detrimental effects of local disorder time and tme again.
>So - yes it is very likely that the putative disordered loops
>detrimentally affect the quality of your crystals.
>
>You can try to engineer your protein to be better - it usually takes a
>number of internally engineered constructs to get things right (about 10
>per 350aa protein, in my experience). This is different from terminal
>truncations - which also can have a huge effect on crystallization.
>
>You might also try some of the methods summarized here:
>http://www.xtals.org/pdfs/rescue_crystals.pdf
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Artem
> >
> > Dear Members,
> >
> > I am getting crystals of my protein. The secondary structure prediction
> > implies that it has N-terminal with high degree of loop regions. I also
> > get some mountable crystals yielding weak diffraction pattern(10 A). The
> > quality of the crystals can also be assumed from its texture for it has
> > tortuous surface. The big crystals are achieved at very high concentration
> > in hanging drop method (44mg/ml) whereas the initial hit (small crystals)
> > is at lower concentration in sitting drop (~ 5mg/ml).
> >
> > I have some queries about it. Does the N –terminal loop regions are having
> > any effect of the crystal quality. Any suggestions of its quality
> > improvement are welcome. I will be highly benefited with your generous
> > replies.
> >
> > Sincerely
> > Deb
> >
>


[ccp4bb] Postdoctoral position at the University of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia

2008-12-04 Thread Bostjan Kobe
POST-DOCTORAL POSITION IN PROTEIN CRYSTALLOGRAPHY, THE UNIVERSITY OF
QUEENSLAND, BRISBANE, AUSTRALIA
 
Applications are invited for a protein crystallography post-doctoral
position in the laboratory of Prof Bostjan Kobe at the School of Molecular
and Microbial Sciences (SMMS) and the Institute for Molecular Bioscience
(IMB), University of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia.
 
The main area of study will involve the characterization of structures and
interactions of proteins involved in the process of plant disease
resistance, focusing on flax-flax rust host-pathogen interaction as the
model system (for recent publications in this area see Dodds PN et al (2006)
Proc Natl Acad Sci USA 103:  and Wang C-IA et al (2007) Plant Cell 19:
2898). Experience in molecular biology, protein purification,
protein/protein interaction analysis and protein crystallography is
desirable. 
 
The salary will be according to qualifications and experience, starting at
AUD$ $73,484. The position is available from January 2009.
 
University of Queensland is one of Australia's top universities. SMMS
combines the disciplines of chemistry, biochemistry & molecular biology,
microbiology and parasitology into a single academic unit. SMMS and IMB are
situated in the beautiful St. Lucia campus on the Brisbane River.
 
State-of-the art equipment is available for all aspects of the work,
including FR-E X-ray generator /R-axis IV++ and Saturn 944 CCD X-ray
detectors, Mosquito crystallization robot and the Rock Imager imaging
system.
 
Brisbane has been voted Australia's most liveable city and has a great
subtropical climate. It is only a short drive from Australia's best beaches
and provides opportunities for all sorts of outdoors and cultural
activities.
 
For further information please see
http://seek.com.au/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=45&PageNumber=1&JobID=145
72918 or contact Bostjan Kobe (telephone: +617-3365-2132, email
[EMAIL PROTECTED]). 
 
Please forward applications, including a cover letter, curriculum vitae and
contact details for three referees, by email or post to by 16 January 2008
to Bostjan Kobe, SMMS, University of Queensland, St. Lucia, Queensland 4072,
Australia.
 
 

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