date:20200301

The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal response.
Thats been available. Illinois has turned up a few labs capable of teating
the samples. There arent "test kits". State level testing is a state
responsibility, not federal. So yes, washington state did fuck this up
willfully.

Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be practicing response
for decades. Containment protocols arent specific to this disease,
literally the same as flu response. The federal government can put out all
the guidance you can dream of, but if the local providers dont do it, its
useless.
My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down the iso
hallway yesterday and all the doors were opened. You going to blame trump
for that too?
She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face shape,
as does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a federal responsibility
too? Should the fed come in and reshape faces so everyones n95 mask
actually works?
State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an active list
of potential oveflow and quarantine facilities, thats a requirement of some
of the disaster response funding they recieve. Thats been in play for over
20 years that im personally aware of.
If the existing systems that were designed and implemented specifically for
prepared response to boilogics, we would have virtually zero risk of a
pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance stage.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert  wrote:

> All of _what_ has been done.   In Washington state they just announced
> that they don't have resources to test any but the worst cases.   That's
> with only 7-10 cases identified as needing testing.   You couldn't fu'k
> this up any worse if you were trying to!   The "most advanced" country in
> the world isn't doing a lot better than Iran at this point...
>
> On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has been.
> More testing? Of whom?
>
> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> Well, it would be nice to see more preparation.  Not testing more people
>> was bad, we can’t unspill that milk.
>>
>>
>>
>> There should be extra hospital beds being identified, and triage
>> facilities with properly protected healthcare workers, so people who think
>> they are infected don’t just walk into their doctor or hospital’s waiting
>> room.
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe I’m the only one, but I honestly don’t know what I am supposed to
>> do if I get sick.  Call the doctor?  Stay inside and see how bad it gets?
>> Go get tested?  Where?
>>
>>
>>
>> South Korea and parts of the UK have set up drive-through testing
>> facilities where you don’t leave your car.  That sounds like maybe a good
>> thing.  Or let me swab my own throat and have someone bring it somewhere
>> for testing.  Then if the test comes back positive, what am I supposed to
>> do?
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe this is where telemedicine comes in.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 29, 2020 5:44 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
>>
>>
>>
>> Its been close to 60 days here, the pond should be overflowing
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:40 PM Matt Hoppes <
>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>> I’m not panicking yet.
>>
>> I’m *probably* attending the show. We’ll see where things end up in two
>> weeks.
>>
>> I’m seriously considering bowing out of MuM and an event the month after
>> at this point though. We shall see.
>>
>> Remember the lily pad problem:
>>
>> A single lily pad is on a pond and the number double every day. In 28
>> days the entire pond will be covered. It’s on day 27 that only half the
>> pond is covered. Days 1-26 look pretty calm.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206

 

If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one.  Look at the label on 
the box, the labels on the vials, and the attribution of the photo.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

 

The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal response. Thats 
been available. Illinois has turned up a few labs capable of teating the 
samples. There arent "test kits". State level testing is a state 
responsibility, not federal. So yes, washington state did fuck this up 
willfully.


Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be practicing response for 
decades. Containment protocols arent specific to this disease, literally the 
same as flu response. The federal government can put out all the guidance you 
can dream of, but if the local providers dont do it, its useless.

My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down the iso hallway 
yesterday and all the doors were opened. You going to blame trump for that too?

She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face shape, as 
does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a federal responsibility too? 
Should the fed come in and reshape faces so everyones n95 mask actually works?

State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an active list of 
potential oveflow and quarantine facilities, thats a requirement of some of the 
disaster response funding they recieve. Thats been in play for over 20 years 
that im personally aware of. 

If the existing systems that were designed and implemented specifically for 
prepared response to boilogics, we would have virtually zero risk of a pandemic 
ever going beyond the nusiance stage. 

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote:

All of _what_ has been done.   In Washington state they just announced that 
they don't have resources to test any but the worst cases.   That's with only 
7-10 cases identified as needing testing.   You couldn't fu'k this up any worse 
if you were trying to!   The "most advanced" country in the world isn't doing a 
lot better than Iran at this point...

On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has been.  

More testing? Of whom?

 

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Well, it would be nice to see more preparation.  Not testing more people was 
bad, we can’t unspill that milk.

 

There should be extra hospital beds being identified, and triage facilities 
with properly protected healthcare workers, so people who think they are 
infected don’t just walk into their doctor or hospital’s waiting room.

 

Maybe I’m the only one, but I honestly don’t know what I am supposed to do if I 
get sick.  Call the doctor?  Stay inside and see how bad it gets?  Go get 
tested?  Where?

 

South Korea and parts of the UK have set up drive-through testing facilities 
where you don’t leave your car.  That sounds like maybe a good thing.  Or let 
me swab my own throat and have someone bring it somewhere for testing.  Then if 
the test comes back positive, what am I supposed to do?

 

Maybe this is where telemedicine comes in.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 5:44 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

 

Its been close to 60 days here, the pond should be overflowing

 

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:40 PM Matt Hoppes mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote:

I’m not panicking yet. 

I’m *probably* attending the show. We’ll see where things end up in two weeks. 

I’m seriously considering bowing out of MuM and an event the month after at 
this point though. We shall see. 

Remember the lily pad problem:

A single lily pad is on a pond and the number double every day. In 28 days the 
entire pond will be covered. It’s on day 27 that only half the pond is covered. 
Days 1-26 look pretty calm. 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-01 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
Wow. According to that article, they won't actually have test
  kits until the end of "next week". So we probably won't see much
  change in the numbers for the US until that time.
At least you can get an app for that:  https://apps.nbcnews.com/mobile/


bp



On 3/1/2020 7:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


  
  
  
  
If there aren’t test kits, what is in this
  photo?
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206
 
If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very
  detailed one.  Look at the label on the box, the labels on the
  vials, and the attribution of the photo.
 
 
From: AF
   On Behalf Of Steve
  Jones
  Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
 

  
The cdc does the majority of the
  testing... that is the federal response. Thats been
  available. Illinois has turned up a few labs capable of
  teating the samples. There arent "test kits". State level
  testing is a state responsibility, not federal. So yes,
  washington state did fuck this up willfully.
  
  

  Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be
  practicing response for decades. Containment protocols
  arent specific to this disease, literally the same as flu
  response. The federal government can put out all the
  guidance you can dream of, but if the local providers dont
  do it, its useless.
  
  
My wife works at a hospital and was
  pissed as she walked down the iso hallway yesterday and
  all the doors were opened. You going to blame trump for
  that too?
  
  
She fails her fit test every year for
  the mask because of her face shape, as does roughly 25
  percent of the country. Is that a federal responsibility
  too? Should the fed come in and reshape faces so everyones
  n95 mask actually works?
  
  
State departments of public health are
  supposed to maintain an active list of potential oveflow
  and quarantine facilities, thats a requirement of some of
  the disaster response funding they recieve. Thats been in
  play for over 20 years that im personally aware of. 
  
  
If the existing systems that were
  designed and implemented specifically for prepared
  response to boilogics, we would have virtually zero risk
  of a pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance stage. 

  
On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM
  Robert 
  wrote:
  
  

  All of _what_ has been
done.   In Washington state they just announced
that they don't have resources to test any but
the worst cases.   That's with only 7-10 cases
identified as needing testing.   You couldn't
fu'k this up any worse if you were trying to!  
The "most advanced" country in the world isn't
doing a lot better than Iran at this point...
  
On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones
  wrote:
  
  

  All that has been done. Thats
ongoing, always has been.  
  
More testing? Of whom?
  

 

  
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06
  PM Ken Hohhof 
  wrote:
  
  

  
Well,
  it would be nice to see more preparation. 
  Not testing more people was bad, we can’t
  unspill that milk.
 
There
  should be extra hospital beds being
  identified, and triage facilities with
  properly protected healthcare workers, so
  people who think they are infected don’t

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-01 Thread chuck

There is supposed to be about 90+ labs in the US ready to do the test on 
Monday.  
I wonder how many false positives these tests kick out.  
Some of the tests are based on PCR so they should be pretty good.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 8:37 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206

If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one.  Look at the label on 
the box, the labels on the vials, and the attribution of the photo.

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal response. Thats 
been available. Illinois has turned up a few labs capable of teating the 
samples. There arent "test kits". State level testing is a state 
responsibility, not federal. So yes, washington state did fuck this up 
willfully.

Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be practicing response for 
decades. Containment protocols arent specific to this disease, literally the 
same as flu response. The federal government can put out all the guidance you 
can dream of, but if the local providers dont do it, its useless.

My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down the iso hallway 
yesterday and all the doors were opened. You going to blame trump for that too?

She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face shape, as 
does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a federal responsibility too? 
Should the fed come in and reshape faces so everyones n95 mask actually works?

State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an active list of 
potential oveflow and quarantine facilities, thats a requirement of some of the 
disaster response funding they recieve. Thats been in play for over 20 years 
that im personally aware of. 

If the existing systems that were designed and implemented specifically for 
prepared response to boilogics, we would have virtually zero risk of a pandemic 
ever going beyond the nusiance stage. 

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert  wrote:

  All of _what_ has been done.   In Washington state they just announced that 
they don't have resources to test any but the worst cases.   That's with only 
7-10 cases identified as needing testing.   You couldn't fu'k this up any worse 
if you were trying to!   The "most advanced" country in the world isn't doing a 
lot better than Iran at this point...

  On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has been.  

More testing? Of whom?

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

  Well, it would be nice to see more preparation.  Not testing more people 
was bad, we can’t unspill that milk.

  There should be extra hospital beds being identified, and triage 
facilities with properly protected healthcare workers, so people who think they 
are infected don’t just walk into their doctor or hospital’s waiting room.

  Maybe I’m the only one, but I honestly don’t know what I am supposed to 
do if I get sick.  Call the doctor?  Stay inside and see how bad it gets?  Go 
get tested?  Where?

  South Korea and parts of the UK have set up drive-through testing 
facilities where you don’t leave your car.  That sounds like maybe a good 
thing.  Or let me swab my own throat and have someone bring it somewhere for 
testing.  Then if the test comes back positive, what am I supposed to do?

  Maybe this is where telemedicine comes in.

  From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
  Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 5:44 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

  Its been close to 60 days here, the pond should be overflowing

  On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:40 PM Matt Hoppes 
 wrote:

I’m not panicking yet. 

I’m *probably* attending the show. We’ll see where things end up in two 
weeks. 

I’m seriously considering bowing out of MuM and an event the month 
after at this point though. We shall see. 

Remember the lily pad problem:

A single lily pad is on a pond and the number double every day. In 28 
days the entire pond will be covered. It’s on day 27 that only half the pond is 
covered. Days 1-26 look pretty calm. 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

The test "kits" the media spews on about not existing. Not the programatic
systems sent out to labs. There is no field test. "Test kits" arent a first
responder tool.

That article is a prime example of "hoax" indicates the tests werent
working, caused a delay, etc. They did work, for covid19, flawlessly, they
simply false positive on others. Now thats the test theyre using, they just
dont tide the others.


On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?
>
>
> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206
>
>
>
> If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one.  Look at the label
> on the box, the labels on the vials, and the attribution of the photo.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
>
>
>
> The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal response.
> Thats been available. Illinois has turned up a few labs capable of teating
> the samples. There arent "test kits". State level testing is a state
> responsibility, not federal. So yes, washington state did fuck this up
> willfully.
>
>
> Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be practicing
> response for decades. Containment protocols arent specific to this disease,
> literally the same as flu response. The federal government can put out all
> the guidance you can dream of, but if the local providers dont do it, its
> useless.
>
> My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down the iso
> hallway yesterday and all the doors were opened. You going to blame trump
> for that too?
>
> She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face shape,
> as does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a federal responsibility
> too? Should the fed come in and reshape faces so everyones n95 mask
> actually works?
>
> State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an active list
> of potential oveflow and quarantine facilities, thats a requirement of some
> of the disaster response funding they recieve. Thats been in play for over
> 20 years that im personally aware of.
>
> If the existing systems that were designed and implemented specifically
> for prepared response to boilogics, we would have virtually zero risk of a
> pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance stage.
>
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert  wrote:
>
> All of _what_ has been done.   In Washington state they just announced
> that they don't have resources to test any but the worst cases.   That's
> with only 7-10 cases identified as needing testing.   You couldn't fu'k
> this up any worse if you were trying to!   The "most advanced" country in
> the world isn't doing a lot better than Iran at this point...
>
> On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has been.
>
> More testing? Of whom?
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Well, it would be nice to see more preparation.  Not testing more people
> was bad, we can’t unspill that milk.
>
>
>
> There should be extra hospital beds being identified, and triage
> facilities with properly protected healthcare workers, so people who think
> they are infected don’t just walk into their doctor or hospital’s waiting
> room.
>
>
>
> Maybe I’m the only one, but I honestly don’t know what I am supposed to do
> if I get sick.  Call the doctor?  Stay inside and see how bad it gets?  Go
> get tested?  Where?
>
>
>
> South Korea and parts of the UK have set up drive-through testing
> facilities where you don’t leave your car.  That sounds like maybe a good
> thing.  Or let me swab my own throat and have someone bring it somewhere
> for testing.  Then if the test comes back positive, what am I supposed to
> do?
>
>
>
> Maybe this is where telemedicine comes in.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 29, 2020 5:44 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
>
>
>
> Its been close to 60 days here, the pond should be overflowing
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:40 PM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
> I’m not panicking yet.
>
> I’m *probably* attending the show. We’ll see where things end up in two
> weeks.
>
> I’m seriously considering bowing out of MuM and an event the month after
> at this point though. We shall see.
>
> Remember the lily pad problem:
>
> A single lily pad is on a pond and the number double every day. In 28 days
> the entire pond will be covered. It’s on day 27 that only half the pond is
> covered. Days 1-26 look pretty calm.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

Steve, you must not even had read the article, to say it’s a prime example of a 
hoax.  It has extensive direct quotes from federal and state government 
officials, virtually all the information in the article is from credible 
government sources.  Not even summarized or paraphrased, it consists mostly of 
direct quotes.

 

I don’t see how this is an example of the media “spewing” false information.

 

And yes it’s a lab test, but now many state and local labs will be able to do 
the tests.  Nobody is saying it’s an instant on-the-spot test, like a 
breathalyzer or the 5-minute rapid strep test.  Even with strep, if the rapid 
test is positive, the doctor sends a sample to the lab for overnight testing.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:52 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

 

The test "kits" the media spews on about not existing. Not the programatic 
systems sent out to labs. There is no field test. "Test kits" arent a first 
responder tool.

 

That article is a prime example of "hoax" indicates the tests werent working, 
caused a delay, etc. They did work, for covid19, flawlessly, they simply false 
positive on others. Now thats the test theyre using, they just dont tide the 
others.

 

 

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206

 

If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one.  Look at the label on 
the box, the labels on the vials, and the attribution of the photo.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

 

The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal response. Thats 
been available. Illinois has turned up a few labs capable of teating the 
samples. There arent "test kits". State level testing is a state 
responsibility, not federal. So yes, washington state did fuck this up 
willfully.


Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be practicing response for 
decades. Containment protocols arent specific to this disease, literally the 
same as flu response. The federal government can put out all the guidance you 
can dream of, but if the local providers dont do it, its useless.

My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down the iso hallway 
yesterday and all the doors were opened. You going to blame trump for that too?

She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face shape, as 
does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a federal responsibility too? 
Should the fed come in and reshape faces so everyones n95 mask actually works?

State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an active list of 
potential oveflow and quarantine facilities, thats a requirement of some of the 
disaster response funding they recieve. Thats been in play for over 20 years 
that im personally aware of. 

If the existing systems that were designed and implemented specifically for 
prepared response to boilogics, we would have virtually zero risk of a pandemic 
ever going beyond the nusiance stage. 

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > wrote:

All of _what_ has been done.   In Washington state they just announced that 
they don't have resources to test any but the worst cases.   That's with only 
7-10 cases identified as needing testing.   You couldn't fu'k this up any worse 
if you were trying to!   The "most advanced" country in the world isn't doing a 
lot better than Iran at this point...

On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has been.  

More testing? Of whom?

 

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Well, it would be nice to see more preparation.  Not testing more people was 
bad, we can’t unspill that milk.

 

There should be extra hospital beds being identified, and triage facilities 
with properly protected healthcare workers, so people who think they are 
infected don’t just walk into their doctor or hospital’s waiting room.

 

Maybe I’m the only one, but I honestly don’t know what I am supposed to do if I 
get sick.  Call the doctor?  Stay inside and see how bad it gets?  Go get 
tested?  Where?

 

South Korea and parts of the UK have set up drive-through testing facilities 
where you don’t leave your car.  That sounds like maybe a good thing.  Or let 
me swab my own throat and have someone bring it somewhere for testing.  Then if 
the test comes back positive, what am I supposed to do?

 

Maybe this is where telemedicine comes in.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:52 AM Steve Jones  wrote:

> The test "kits" the media spews on about not existing. Not the programatic
> systems sent out to labs. There is no field test. "Test kits" arent a first
> responder tool.
>
> That article is a prime example of "hoax" indicates the tests werent
> working, caused a delay, etc. They did work, for covid19, flawlessly, they
> simply false positive on others. Now thats the test theyre using, they just
> dont tide the others.
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?
>>
>>
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206
>>
>>
>>
>> If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one.  Look at the
>> label on the box, the labels on the vials, and the attribution of the photo.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
>>
>>
>>
>> The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal response.
>> Thats been available. Illinois has turned up a few labs capable of teating
>> the samples. There arent "test kits". State level testing is a state
>> responsibility, not federal. So yes, washington state did fuck this up
>> willfully.
>>
>>
>> Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be practicing
>> response for decades. Containment protocols arent specific to this disease,
>> literally the same as flu response. The federal government can put out all
>> the guidance you can dream of, but if the local providers dont do it, its
>> useless.
>>
>> My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down the iso
>> hallway yesterday and all the doors were opened. You going to blame trump
>> for that too?
>>
>> She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face shape,
>> as does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a federal responsibility
>> too? Should the fed come in and reshape faces so everyones n95 mask
>> actually works?
>>
>> State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an active
>> list of potential oveflow and quarantine facilities, thats a requirement of
>> some of the disaster response funding they recieve. Thats been in play for
>> over 20 years that im personally aware of.
>>
>> If the existing systems that were designed and implemented specifically
>> for prepared response to boilogics, we would have virtually zero risk of a
>> pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance stage.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert  wrote:
>>
>> All of _what_ has been done.   In Washington state they just announced
>> that they don't have resources to test any but the worst cases.   That's
>> with only 7-10 cases identified as needing testing.   You couldn't fu'k
>> this up any worse if you were trying to!   The "most advanced" country in
>> the world isn't doing a lot better than Iran at this point...
>>
>> On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has been.
>>
>> More testing? Of whom?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>> Well, it would be nice to see more preparation.  Not testing more people
>> was bad, we can’t unspill that milk.
>>
>>
>>
>> There should be extra hospital beds being identified, and triage
>> facilities with properly protected healthcare workers, so people who think
>> they are infected don’t just walk into their doctor or hospital’s waiting
>> room.
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe I’m the only one, but I honestly don’t know what I am supposed to
>> do if I get sick.  Call the doctor?  Stay inside and see how bad it gets?
>> Go get tested?  Where?
>>
>>
>>
>> South Korea and parts of the UK have set up drive-through testing
>> facilities where you don’t leave your car.  That sounds like maybe a good
>> thing.  Or let me swab my own throat and have someone bring it somewhere
>> for testing.  Then if the test comes back positive, what am I supposed to
>> do?
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe this is where telemedicine comes in.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 29, 2020 5:44 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
>>
>>
>>
>> Its been close to 60 days here, the pond should be overflowing
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:40 PM Matt Hoppes <
>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>> I’m not panicking yet.
>>
>> I’m *probably* attending the show. We’ll see where things end up in two
>> weeks.
>>
>> I’m seriously considering bowing out of MuM and an event the month after
>> at this point though. We shall see.
>>
>> Remember the lily pad problem:
>>
>> A single lily pad is on a pond and the number double every day. In 28
>> days the entire pond will be covered. It’s on day 27 that only half the
>> pond is covered. Days 1-26 look pretty calm.
>> --

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

Tests were allowing false negatives, look up the article about the
person released from quarantine in Southern California from the Air
Force base. Second test showed a positive.

On 03/01/2020 07:52 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
The test "kits" the media spews on about not existing. Not the
programatic systems sent out to labs. There is no field test. "Test
kits" arent a first responder tool.

That article is a prime example of "hoax" indicates the tests werent
working, caused a delay, etc. They did work, for covid19, flawlessly,
they simply false positive on others. Now thats the test theyre using,
they just dont tide the others.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM Ken Hohhof > wrote:

If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206

__ __

If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one. Look at the
label on the box, the labels on the vials, and the attribution of
the photo.

__ __

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

__ __

The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal
response. Thats been available. Illinois has turned up a few labs
capable of teating the samples. There arent "test kits". State level
testing is a state responsibility, not federal. So yes, washington
state did fuck this up willfully.

Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be practicing
response for decades. Containment protocols arent specific to this
disease, literally the same as flu response. The federal government
can put out all the guidance you can dream of, but if the local
providers dont do it, its useless.

My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down the
iso hallway yesterday and all the doors were opened. You going to
blame trump for that too?

She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face
shape, as does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a federal
responsibility too? Should the fed come in and reshape faces so
everyones n95 mask actually works?

State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an
active list of potential oveflow and quarantine facilities, thats a
requirement of some of the disaster response funding they recieve.
Thats been in play for over 20 years that im personally aware of.

If the existing systems that were designed and implemented
specifically for prepared response to boilogics, we would have
virtually zero risk of a pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance
stage.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

All of _what_ has been done. In Washington state they just
announced that they don't have resources to test any but the
worst cases. That's with only 7-10 cases identified as needing
testing. You couldn't fu'k this up any worse if you were
trying to! The "most advanced" country in the world isn't
doing a lot better than Iran at this point...

On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has been.

More testing? Of whom?

__ __

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

Well, it would be nice to see more preparation. Not
testing more people was bad, we can’t unspill that milk.

There should be extra hospital beds being identified,
and triage facilities with properly protected healthcare
workers, so people who think they are infected don’t
just walk into their doctor or hospital’s waiting room.

Maybe I’m the only one, but I honestly don’t know what I
am supposed to do if I get sick. Call the doctor? Stay
inside and see how bad it gets? Go get tested? Where?

South Korea and parts of the UK have set up
drive-through testing facilities where you don’t leave
your car. That sounds like maybe a good thing. Or let
me swab my own throat and have someone bring it
somewhere for testing. Then if the test comes back
positive, what am I supposed to do?

Maybe this is where telemedicine comes in.

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

Rotflmao

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 11:13 AM Robert Andrews  wrote:

> Tests were allowing false negatives, look up the article about the
> person released from quarantine in Southern California from the Air
> Force base.   Second test showed a positive.
>
> On 03/01/2020 07:52 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
> > The test "kits" the media spews on about not existing. Not the
> > programatic systems sent out to labs. There is no field test. "Test
> > kits" arent a first responder tool.
> >
> > That article is a prime example of "hoax" indicates the tests werent
> > working, caused a delay, etc. They did work, for covid19, flawlessly,
> > they simply false positive on others. Now thats the test theyre using,
> > they just dont tide the others.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM Ken Hohhof  > > wrote:
> >
> > If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?
> >
> >
> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one.  Look at the
> > label on the box, the labels on the vials, and the attribution of
> > the photo.
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > *From:* AF  > > *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  > >
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal
> > response. Thats been available. Illinois has turned up a few labs
> > capable of teating the samples. There arent "test kits". State level
> > testing is a state responsibility, not federal. So yes, washington
> > state did fuck this up willfully.
> >
> >
> > Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be practicing
> > response for decades. Containment protocols arent specific to this
> > disease, literally the same as flu response. The federal government
> > can put out all the guidance you can dream of, but if the local
> > providers dont do it, its useless.
> >
> > My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down the
> > iso hallway yesterday and all the doors were opened. You going to
> > blame trump for that too?
> >
> > She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face
> > shape, as does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a federal
> > responsibility too? Should the fed come in and reshape faces so
> > everyones n95 mask actually works?
> >
> > State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an
> > active list of potential oveflow and quarantine facilities, thats a
> > requirement of some of the disaster response funding they recieve.
> > Thats been in play for over 20 years that im personally aware of.
> 
> >
> > If the existing systems that were designed and implemented
> > specifically for prepared response to boilogics, we would have
> > virtually zero risk of a pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance
> > stage. 
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert  > > wrote:
> >
> > All of _what_ has been done.   In Washington state they just
> > announced that they don't have resources to test any but the
> > worst cases.   That's with only 7-10 cases identified as needing
> > testing.   You couldn't fu'k this up any worse if you were
> > trying to!   The "most advanced" country in the world isn't
> > doing a lot better than Iran at this point...
> >
> > On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
> >
> > All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has been. 
> >
> > More testing? Of whom?
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof  > > wrote:
> >
> > Well, it would be nice to see more preparation.  Not
> > testing more people was bad, we can’t unspill that
> milk.
> >
> > 
> >
> > There should be extra hospital beds being identified,
> > and triage facilities with properly protected healthcare
> > workers, so people who think they are infected don’t
> > just walk into their doctor or hospital’s waiting
> room.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Maybe I’m the only one, but I honestly don’t know what I
> > am supposed to do if I get sick.  Call the doctor?  Stay
> > inside and see how bad it gets?  Go get tested?
> Where?
> >
> > 
> >
> > South Korea and parts of the UK have set up
> >

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

Also the article stated that States were prohibited from the CDC from
more widespread testing. THAT is a direct cause and effect from the
federal government. Steve you have always come across as the wacky guy
I loved to read, now you are just coming across as a FU... READ THE
FRICKING DATA. & I agree with your wife the open doors are a joke.
But so are hospitals that don't allow fresh air circulation to save
heating bills.

On 03/01/2020 08:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Steve, you must not even had read the article, to say it’s a prime
example of a hoax. It has extensive direct quotes from federal and
state government officials, virtually all the information in the article
is from credible government sources. Not even summarized or
paraphrased, it consists mostly of direct quotes.

I don’t see how this is an example of the media “spewing” false information.

And yes it’s a lab test, but now many state and local labs will be able
to do the tests. Nobody is saying it’s an instant on-the-spot test,
like a breathalyzer or the 5-minute rapid strep test. Even with strep,
if the rapid test is positive, the doctor sends a sample to the lab for
overnight testing.

*From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:52 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

The test "kits" the media spews on about not existing. Not the
programatic systems sent out to labs. There is no field test. "Test
kits" arent a first responder tool.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM Ken Hohhof > wrote:

If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206

If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one. Look at the
label on the box, the labels on the vials, and the attribution of
the photo.

My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down the
iso hallway yesterday and all the doors were opened. You going to
blame trump for that too?

If the existing systems that were designed and implemented
specifically for prepared response to boilogics, we would have
virtually zero risk of a pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance stage.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has been.

More testing? Of whom?

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

Well, it would be nice to see more preparation. Not
testing more people was bad, we can’t unspill that milk.

There should be extra hospital beds being identified,
and triage facilities with properly protected healthcare

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

Be sure and share when you get covid-19 because I am going to love
reading what you write then, if you can... Oh because I expect you to
go out and expose yourself because it's going to be so easy to get over...

On 03/01/2020 08:36 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:52 AM Steve Jones > wrote:

The test "kits" the media spews on about not existing. Not the
programatic systems sent out to labs. There is no field test. "Test
kits" arent a first responder tool.

That article is a prime example of "hoax" indicates the tests werent
working, caused a delay, etc. They did work, for covid19,
flawlessly, they simply false positive on others. Now thats the test
theyre using, they just dont tide the others.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206

__ __

If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one. Look at
the label on the box, the labels on the vials, and the
attribution of the photo.

__ __

The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal
response. Thats been available. Illinois has turned up a few
labs capable of teating the samples. There arent "test kits".
State level testing is a state responsibility, not federal. So
yes, washington state did fuck this up willfully.

Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be
practicing response for decades. Containment protocols arent
specific to this disease, literally the same as flu response.
The federal government can put out all the guidance you can
dream of, but if the local providers dont do it, its useless.

My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down
the iso hallway yesterday and all the doors were opened. You
going to blame trump for that too?

She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her
face shape, as does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a
federal responsibility too? Should the fed come in and reshape
faces so everyones n95 mask actually works?

State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an
active list of potential oveflow and quarantine facilities,
thats a requirement of some of the disaster response funding
they recieve. Thats been in play for over 20 years that im
personally aware of.

If the existing systems that were designed and implemented
specifically for prepared response to boilogics, we would have
virtually zero risk of a pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance
stage.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

All of _what_ has been done. In Washington state they just
announced that they don't have resources to test any but the
worst cases. That's with only 7-10 cases identified as
needing testing. You couldn't fu'k this up any worse if
you were trying to! The "most advanced" country in the
world isn't doing a lot better than Iran at this point...

On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has been.

More testing? Of whom?

__ __

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

Well, it would be nice to see more preparation. Not
testing more people was bad, we can’t unspill that
milk.

There should be extra hospital beds being
identified, and triage facilities with properly
protected healthcare workers, so people who think
they are infected don’t just walk into their doctor
or hospital’s waiting room.

Maybe I’m the only one, but I honestly don’t know
what I am supposed to do if I get sick. Call the
doctor? Stay inside and see how bad it gets? Go
get tested? Where?

South Korea and parts of the UK have set up
drive-th

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool


Yep that will be me when Steve is over his case...

On 03/01/2020 09:14 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

Rotflmao

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 11:13 AM Robert Andrews > wrote:


Tests were allowing false negatives, look up the article about the
person released from quarantine in Southern California from the Air
Force base.   Second test showed a positive.

On 03/01/2020 07:52 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
 > The test "kits" the media spews on about not existing. Not the
 > programatic systems sent out to labs. There is no field test. "Test
 > kits" arent a first responder tool.
 >
 > That article is a prime example of "hoax" indicates the tests werent
 > working, caused a delay, etc. They did work, for covid19,
flawlessly,
 > they simply false positive on others. Now thats the test theyre
using,
 > they just dont tide the others.
 >
 >
 > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
 > >> wrote:
 >
 > If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?
 >
 >

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206
 >
 > __ __
 >
 > If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one.  Look
at the
 > label on the box, the labels on the vials, and the attribution of
 > the photo.
 >
 > __ __
 >
 > __ __
 >
 > *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
 > >> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
 > *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
 > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
 > >>
 > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
 >
 > __ __
 >
 > The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal
 > response. Thats been available. Illinois has turned up a few labs
 > capable of teating the samples. There arent "test kits".
State level
 > testing is a state responsibility, not federal. So yes,
washington
 > state did fuck this up willfully.
 >
 >
 > Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be
practicing
 > response for decades. Containment protocols arent specific to
this
 > disease, literally the same as flu response. The federal
government
 > can put out all the guidance you can dream of, but if the local
 > providers dont do it, its useless.
 >
 > My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down the
 > iso hallway yesterday and all the doors were opened. You going to
 > blame trump for that too?
 >
 > She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her
face
 > shape, as does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a
federal
 > responsibility too? Should the fed come in and reshape faces so
 > everyones n95 mask actually works?
 >
 > State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an
 > active list of potential oveflow and quarantine facilities,
thats a
 > requirement of some of the disaster response funding they
recieve.
 > Thats been in play for over 20 years that im personally aware
of. 
 >
 > If the existing systems that were designed and implemented
 > specifically for prepared response to boilogics, we would have
 > virtually zero risk of a pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance
 > stage. 
 >
 > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>
 > >> wrote:
 >
 > All of _what_ has been done.   In Washington state they just
 > announced that they don't have resources to test any but the
 > worst cases.   That's with only 7-10 cases identified as
needing
 > testing.   You couldn't fu'k this up any worse if you were
 > trying to!   The "most advanced" country in the world isn't
 > doing a lot better than Iran at this point...
 >
 > On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
 >
 > All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has
been. 
 >
 > More testing? Of whom?
 >
 > __ __
 >
 > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
 > >>
wrote:
 >
 > Well, it would be nice to see more preparation.  Not
 > testing more people

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-01 Thread Mark Radabaugh


On Mar 1, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Steve Jones  wrote:

> She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face shape,

I can’t possibly be the only one who read this and thought Steve needs to quit 
beating his wife quite so much.  Sheesh


(before anyone gets bent - I’m just joking around.   It fits in with Steve’s 
body of work on this mailing list).

Mark
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Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

The states arent prihibited from anything by the cdc. Theyre allowed to pay
for anything they choose to pay for. That would be another "hoax"

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 11:16 AM Robert Andrews  wrote:

> Also the article stated that States were prohibited from the CDC from
> more widespread testing.   THAT is a direct cause and effect from the
> federal government.  Steve you have always come across as the wacky guy
> I loved to read, now you are just coming across as a FU...  READ THE
> FRICKING DATA.   & I agree with your wife the open doors are a joke.
> But so are hospitals that don't allow fresh air circulation to save
> heating bills.
>
> On 03/01/2020 08:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > Steve, you must not even had read the article, to say it’s a prime
> > example of a hoax.  It has extensive direct quotes from federal and
> > state government officials, virtually all the information in the article
> > is from credible government sources.  Not even summarized or
> > paraphrased, it consists mostly of direct quotes.
> >
> > I don’t see how this is an example of the media “spewing” false
> information.
> >
> > And yes it’s a lab test, but now many state and local labs will be able
> > to do the tests.  Nobody is saying it’s an instant on-the-spot test,
> > like a breathalyzer or the 5-minute rapid strep test.  Even with strep,
> > if the rapid test is positive, the doctor sends a sample to the lab for
> > overnight testing.
> >
> > *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:52 AM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
> >
> > The test "kits" the media spews on about not existing. Not the
> > programatic systems sent out to labs. There is no field test. "Test
> > kits" arent a first responder tool.
> >
> > That article is a prime example of "hoax" indicates the tests werent
> > working, caused a delay, etc. They did work, for covid19, flawlessly,
> > they simply false positive on others. Now thats the test theyre using,
> > they just dont tide the others.
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM Ken Hohhof  > > wrote:
> >
> > If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?
> >
> >
> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206
> >
> > If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one.  Look at the
> > label on the box, the labels on the vials, and the attribution of
> > the photo.
> >
> > *From:* AF  > > *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  > >
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
> >
> > The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal
> > response. Thats been available. Illinois has turned up a few labs
> > capable of teating the samples. There arent "test kits". State level
> > testing is a state responsibility, not federal. So yes, washington
> > state did fuck this up willfully.
> >
> >
> > Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be practicing
> > response for decades. Containment protocols arent specific to this
> > disease, literally the same as flu response. The federal government
> > can put out all the guidance you can dream of, but if the local
> > providers dont do it, its useless.
> >
> > My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down the
> > iso hallway yesterday and all the doors were opened. You going to
> > blame trump for that too?
> >
> > She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face
> > shape, as does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a federal
> > responsibility too? Should the fed come in and reshape faces so
> > everyones n95 mask actually works?
> >
> > State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an
> > active list of potential oveflow and quarantine facilities, thats a
> > requirement of some of the disaster response funding they recieve.
> > Thats been in play for over 20 years that im personally aware of.
> >
> > If the existing systems that were designed and implemented
> > specifically for prepared response to boilogics, we would have
> > virtually zero risk of a pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance
> stage.
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert  > > wrote:
> >
> > All of _what_ has been done.   In Washington state they just
> > announced that they don't have resources to test any but the
> > worst cases.   That's with only 7-10 cases identified as needing
> > testing.   You couldn't fu'k this up any worse if you were
> > trying to!   The "most advanced" country in the world isn't
> > doing a lot better than Iran at this point...
> >
> >

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

Im still waiting for my tool from wuhan. Im going to do a video licking it.
But in all seriousness, it will likely kill me, as will influenza. Im a 30
plus year smoker with COPD. Flu almost took me out last year. Ill try to
type something up for you though.
Rwmember swine flu, bigger hype, bigger death toll. My kids both got it. Me
and the doctor both laughed about the hype. The only impact in the real
world was i had an install at a pig farm. I had to call them ahead of time
to let them know i was exposed to see if they wanted me to reschedule. They
werent morons and didnt buy the media hype either, so i installed them that
day.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 11:18 AM Robert Andrews  wrote:

> Be sure and share when you get covid-19 because I am going to love
> reading what you write then, if you can...   Oh because I expect you to
> go out and expose yourself because it's going to be so easy to get over...
>
> On 03/01/2020 08:36 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:52 AM Steve Jones  > > wrote:
> >
> > The test "kits" the media spews on about not existing. Not the
> > programatic systems sent out to labs. There is no field test. "Test
> > kits" arent a first responder tool.
> >
> > That article is a prime example of "hoax" indicates the tests werent
> > working, caused a delay, etc. They did work, for covid19,
> > flawlessly, they simply false positive on others. Now thats the test
> > theyre using, they just dont tide the others.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM Ken Hohhof  > > wrote:
> >
> > If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?
> >
> >
> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one.  Look at
> > the label on the box, the labels on the vials, and the
> > attribution of the photo.
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > *From:* AF  > > *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  > >
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal
> > response. Thats been available. Illinois has turned up a few
> > labs capable of teating the samples. There arent "test kits".
> > State level testing is a state responsibility, not federal. So
> > yes, washington state did fuck this up willfully.
> >
> >
> > Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be
> > practicing response for decades. Containment protocols arent
> > specific to this disease, literally the same as flu response.
> > The federal government can put out all the guidance you can
> > dream of, but if the local providers dont do it, its useless.
> >
> > My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down
> > the iso hallway yesterday and all the doors were opened. You
> > going to blame trump for that too?
> >
> > She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her
> > face shape, as does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a
> > federal responsibility too? Should the fed come in and reshape
> > faces so everyones n95 mask actually works?
> >
> > State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an
> > active list of potential oveflow and quarantine facilities,
> > thats a requirement of some of the disaster response funding
> > they recieve. Thats been in play for over 20 years that im
> > personally aware of. 
> >
> > If the existing systems that were designed and implemented
> > specifically for prepared response to boilogics, we would have
> > virtually zero risk of a pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance
> > stage. 
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert  > > wrote:
> >
> > All of _what_ has been done.   In Washington state they just
> > announced that they don't have resources to test any but the
> > worst cases.   That's with only 7-10 cases identified as
> > needing testing.   You couldn't fu'k this up any worse if
> > you were trying to!   The "most advanced" country in the
> > world isn't doing a lot better than Iran at this point...
> >
> > On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
> >
> > All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has been.
> 
> >
> > More testing? Of whom?
> >
> >

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

If she would learn to listen better, maybe have the meatloaf on the table a
little earlier maybe her mask would fit a little better. Just saying, maybe
she should take a little accountability

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 11:25 AM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:

>
> On Mar 1, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
> > She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face shape,
>
> I can’t possibly be the only one who read this and thought Steve needs to
> quit beating his wife quite so much.  Sheesh
>
>
> (before anyone gets bent - I’m just joking around.   It fits in with
> Steve’s body of work on this mailing list).
>
> Mark
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-01 Thread Bill Prince

I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or
  blogs. I do pay attention to as much scientifically-based
  information I can find though.
This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without
  any spin:
 https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you

bp

On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a
  socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a Nazi.  So the Internet says.

From: AF
   On Behalf Of Steve
  Jones
  Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

  thats the secret, remember russia shafted
the nazis last time... russia is in asia, so russians are
asians. Taking them out of the running too Weve said too
much

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam
  Moffett 
  wrote:

  Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.

On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones
  wrote:

  Im suprised that hasnt gotten
traction. This is obviously genetically designed to
target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections
are asians. Obviously this is the resurgence of the
Nazi party trying to eliminate a majority of the
population so they can initiate another run at
global domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me
that her friend, carols husband Brad told her that
he heard that this is what brexit was all about.
Germany and Great Britian are forming an alliance
now. Its all hush hush, but there is a shadow
government of guess what... Nazis.

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33
  AM Adam Moffett 
  wrote:

You mean.Nazi's created
  Coronavirus?

  On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
  > I'm waiting for Godwin...
  >
  >
  > bp
  > 
  >
  > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
  >> The thing driving me nuts right now is
  that literally everything is a 
  >> "conspiracy".
  >>
  >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on
  purpose, and nobody has the 
  >> whole picture of what happened until more
  time passes. In the interim 
  >> there's a lot of conflicting information
  going around. People latch 
  >> onto early bits of information that turn
  out to be wrong and they 
  >> won't let go of them.
  >>
  >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to
  distract press from Hong Kong
  >>
  >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to
  defeat China in a trade war
  >>
  >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to
  discredit Mexican Lager (I 
  >> mean that one's obviously a
  joke.right?)
  >>
  >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must
  all stock our survival bunkers.
  >>
  >> China is hiding all the information about
  Coronavirus.  Really? Or 
  >> maybe they just don't have a live
  real-time omniscient feed of all 
  >> information so they're reporting what
  they think is true at the time 
  >> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook
  aren't all true.
  >>
  >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
  >>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-01 Thread Warren King

Thanks for a reasoned post that’s not politically motivated or from a “The sky 
has fallen”, hypochondriacal source!

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> 
> I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I do 
> pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find though.
> 
> This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin:
> 
> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you
> 
> 
> 
> bp
> 
> 
>> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a Nazi.  
>> So the Internet says.
>>  
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>>  
>> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is 
>> in asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too Weve 
>> said too much
>>  
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>> Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically 
>> designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians. 
>> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a 
>> majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global 
>> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband 
>> Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. Germany 
>> and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there 
>> is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis.
>>  
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>> You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?
>> 
>> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> > I'm waiting for Godwin...
>> >
>> >
>> > bp
>> > 
>> >
>> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
>> >> "conspiracy".
>> >>
>> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the 
>> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim 
>> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch 
>> >> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they 
>> >> won't let go of them.
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I 
>> >> mean that one's obviously a joke.right?)
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
>> >>
>> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or 
>> >> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all 
>> >> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time 
>> >> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>> >>
>> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>> >>>
>> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>> >>>
>> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual 
>> >>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel 
>> >>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not 
>> >>> particularly deadly.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

[image: image.png]
Just for a little real world perspective. Over half the global infections
are recovered. Recoveries are outpacing new infection.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 12:01 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> If she would learn to listen better, maybe have the meatloaf on the table
> a little earlier maybe her mask would fit a little better. Just saying,
> maybe she should take a little accountability
>
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 11:25 AM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face
>> shape,
>>
>> I can’t possibly be the only one who read this and thought Steve needs to
>> quit beating his wife quite so much.  Sheesh
>>
>>
>> (before anyone gets bent - I’m just joking around.   It fits in with
>> Steve’s body of work on this mailing list).
>>
>> Mark
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Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

2020-03-01 Thread Matt Hoppes

Because the rest of the world is fumbling the testing!

See what happens this week when the US starts doing more tests. 

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just for a little real world perspective. Over half the global infections are 
> recovered. Recoveries are outpacing new infection. 
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 12:01 PM Steve Jones  
>> wrote:
>> If she would learn to listen better, maybe have the meatloaf on the table a 
>> little earlier maybe her mask would fit a little better. Just saying, maybe 
>> she should take a little accountability
>> 
>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 11:25 AM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Steve Jones  wrote:
>>> 
>>> > She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face shape,
>>> 
>>> I can’t possibly be the only one who read this and thought Steve needs to 
>>> quit beating his wife quite so much.  Sheesh
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (before anyone gets bent - I’m just joking around.   It fits in with 
>>> Steve’s body of work on this mailing list).
>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

There are only a few things we know for sure.

1. It is already in the US
2. More people in the US will get it
3. More people in the US will die.

Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't know anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this virus starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if you bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some experts".  The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as the most likely scenario.  We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We don't know how it reacts to UV light.  We don't know how it will do in warm/humid conditions.

My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the states before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not everyone who gets hospitalized will die.

The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping this thing  way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of Lysol or Lysol type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant wipes were gone.  Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.  The closest reported "maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we get a reported case in Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start burning and looting?

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Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:

I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I do pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find though.
This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you

bp

On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a Nazi.  So the Internet says.

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is in asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too Weve said too much

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.

On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians. Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. Germany and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis.

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?

On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> I'm waiting for Godwin...
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
>> "conspiracy".
>>
>> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the 
>> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim 
>> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch 
>> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they 
>> won't let go of them.
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
>>
>> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I 
>> mean that one's obviously a joke.right?)
>>
>> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
>>
>> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or 
>> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all 
>> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time 
>> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true.
>>
>> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic.
>>>
>>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here.
>>>
>>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual 
>>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel 
>>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but

Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool

Matt,

There will be more positive results. That's a given. No one should be surprised about that. That should be expected and should be common knowledge.

However, the media will act surprised. We will have news alerts. We will have more "experts" talking about on TV. If we are lucky we may even get a live feed of people yelling and screaming waving their arms in the air while running in circles.

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Sunday, March 1, 2020, 6:33:02 PM, you wrote:

Because the rest of the world is fumbling the testing!

See what happens this week when the US starts doing more tests.

On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Just for a little real world perspective. Over half the global infections are recovered. Recoveries are outpacing new infection.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 12:01 PM Steve Jones wrote:

If she would learn to listen better, maybe have the meatloaf on the table a little earlier maybe her mask would fit a little better. Just saying, maybe she should take a little accountability

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 11:25 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote:

On Mar 1, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

> She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face shape,

I can’t possibly be the only one who read this and thought Steve needs to quit beating his wife quite so much. Sheesh

(before anyone gets bent - I’m just joking around. It fits in with Steve’s body of work on this mailing list).

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-01 Thread Matt Hoppes

I humbly disagree. 

I’ve been tracking this thing in China since it started in late December. 

I kept asking myself “why is the media NOT reporting on this?  They like to 
hype everything!”



> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:53 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies  
> wrote:
> 
> There are only a few things we know for sure.
> 
> 1. It is already in the US
> 2. More people in the US will get it
> 3. More people in the US will die.
> 
> Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't know 
> anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this virus 
> starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if you 
> bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some experts".  
> The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report 
> 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as the most likely 
> scenario.  We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We don't know how it 
> reacts to UV light.  We don't know how it will do in warm/humid conditions.
> 
> My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the 
> states before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered 
> thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not 
> everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not everyone who 
> gets hospitalized will die.
> 
> The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping this 
> thing  way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of Lysol 
> or Lysol type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant wipes were 
> gone.  Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.  The closest 
> reported "maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we get a reported 
> case in Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start burning and looting?
> 
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
> 
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.Myakka.com
> 
> --
> 
> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:
> 
> 
> I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I do 
> pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find though.
> This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin:
> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you
> 
> bp
> 
> 
> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> 
> 
> Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a Nazi.  
> So the Internet says.
> 
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
> 
> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is in 
> asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too Weve 
> said too much
> 
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.
> 
> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
> 
> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically 
> designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians. 
> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a 
> majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global 
> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband 
> Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. Germany 
> and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there 
> is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?
> 
> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> > I'm waiting for Godwin...
> >
> >
> > bp
> > 
> >
> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
> >> "conspiracy".
> >>
> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the 
> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim 
> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch 
> >> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they 
> >> won't let go of them.
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I 
> >> mean that one's obviously a joke.right?)
> >>
> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
> >>
> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or 
> >> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all 
> >> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time 
> >> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing.  I have not seen news reports 
anything close to “we are all going to die”.

And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs at all of people buying up 
all the Lysol and Purell.  I did buy a couple of the pump bottles of foaming 
hand soap we like, but the shelf was full.  News reports have said wash your 
hands and that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I don’t think that’s 
doomsday advice.

I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all crazy there (as usual).  
Actually I have to admit that I recently discovered the steaks from Walmart are 
actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson Fresh Meats.

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

There are only a few things we know for sure.

1. It is already in the US
2. More people in the US will get it
3. More people in the US will die.

Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't know 
anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this virus 
starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if you bother 
to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some experts".  The 
current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report 14 
days and base all our models on this and report it as the most likely scenario. 
 We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We don't know how it reacts to 
UV light.  We don't know how it will do in warm/humid conditions.

My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the states 
before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered thinking it 
was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not everyone who 
gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not everyone who gets 
hospitalized will die.

The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping this thing 
 way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of Lysol or Lysol 
type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant wipes were gone.  
Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.  The closest reported 
"maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we get a reported case in 
Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start burning and looting?

--
Best regards,
Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
  www.Myakka.com

--

Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:

I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I do 
pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find though.
This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin:

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you

bp

On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a Nazi.  So 
the Internet says.

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group   
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is in 
asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too Weve said 
too much

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.

On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically designed 
to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians. Obviously 
this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a majority of the 
population so they can initiate another run at global domination. My neighbors 
mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband Brad told her that he heard 
that this is what brexit was all about. Germany and Great Britian are forming 
an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there is a shadow government of guess 
what... Nazis.

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?

On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> I'm waiting for Godwin...
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
>> "conspiracy".
>>
>> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the 
>> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim 
>> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch 
>> onto early bits of information that turn

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

OK, maybe this is hysterical reporting (it’s from Washington Post after all), 
but sounds kind of science-y.

 

The novel coronavirus has probably been spreading undetected for about six 
weeks in Washington state, where the first U.S. death was reported this 
weekend. A genetic analysis suggests that the cases are linked through 
community transmission and that this has been going on for weeks, with hundreds 
of infections likely in the state. 

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

 

Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing.  I have not seen news reports 
anything close to “we are all going to die”.

 

And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs at all of people buying up 
all the Lysol and Purell.  I did buy a couple of the pump bottles of foaming 
hand soap we like, but the shelf was full.  News reports have said wash your 
hands and that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I don’t think that’s 
doomsday advice.

 

I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all crazy there (as usual).  
Actually I have to admit that I recently discovered the steaks from Walmart are 
actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson Fresh Meats.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

 

There are only a few things we know for sure.

1. It is already in the US
2. More people in the US will get it
3. More people in the US will die.

Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't know 
anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this virus 
starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if you bother 
to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some experts".  The 
current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report 14 
days and base all our models on this and report it as the most likely scenario. 
 We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We don't know how it reacts to 
UV light.  We don't know how it will do in warm/humid conditions.

My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the states 
before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered thinking it 
was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not everyone who 
gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not everyone who gets 
hospitalized will die.

The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping this thing 
 way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of Lysol or Lysol 
type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant wipes were gone.  
Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.  The closest reported 
"maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we get a reported case in 
Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start burning and looting?


--
Best regards,
Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
  www.Myakka.com

--

Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:


I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I do 
pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find though.
This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin:
 

 
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you

bp


On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:



Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a Nazi.  So 
the Internet says.

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group   
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is in 
asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too Weve said 
too much

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:


Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.

On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:


Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically designed 
to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians. Obviously 
this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a majority of the 
population so they can initiate another run at global domination. My neighbors 
mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband Brad told her that he heard 
that this is what brexit was all about. Germany and Great Britian are forming 
an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there is

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

They were reporting it in december, heavily

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 6:18 PM Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

> I humbly disagree.
>
> I’ve been tracking this thing in China since it started in late December.
>
> I kept asking myself “why is the media NOT reporting on this?  They like
> to hype everything!”
>
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:53 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies 
> wrote:
>
> There are only a few things we know for sure.
>
> 1. It is already in the US
> 2. More people in the US will get it
> 3. More people in the US will die.
>
> Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't know
> anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this virus
> starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if you
> bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some
> experts".  The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey
> lets just report 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as
> the most likely scenario.  We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We
> don't know how it reacts to UV light.  We don't know how it will do in
> warm/humid conditions.
>
> My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the
> states before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered
> thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not
> everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not everyone who
> gets hospitalized will die.
>
> The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping this
> thing  way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of
> Lysol or Lysol type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant
> wipes were gone.  Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.
> The closest reported "maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we
> get a reported case in Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start
> burning and looting?
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com 
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.Myakka.com
>
> --
>
> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:
>
>
> I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I
> do pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find
> though.
> This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin:
>
> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>
> Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a
> Nazi.  So the Internet says.
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>
> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is
> in asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too
> Weve said too much
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
> Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.
>
> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically
> designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians.
> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a
> majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global
> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband
> Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. Germany
> and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there
> is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis.
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
> You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?
>
> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> > I'm waiting for Godwin...
> >
> >
> > bp
> > 
> >
> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a
> >> "conspiracy".
> >>
> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the
> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim
> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch
> >> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they
> >> won't let go of them.
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war
> >>
> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I
> >> mean that one's obviously a joke.right?)
> >>
> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers.
> >>
> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus.  Really? Or
> >> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all
> >> information so they're reporting what they think is true at

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu


Ken,

Most likely a Florida thing.  We are hoarders by nature.  Think it is the Hurricane effect.  Once we are in the 5 day cone of death a destruction we have to go out and buy all the water and bread we can get our hands on.  I guess this is one reason the media stuff and people in general drive me crazy .  Everything seems to have to be a disaster.  Just last week USA Today headline "Chicago could see biggest snow of the season as winter storm targets Midwest, Northeast".  Is 6" of snow in Chicago really worth that headline?

Once saw a guy returning at least 10 cases of water a few days after a Hurricane missed us.  Had to buy all those cases of water, so no one else could get any.  Customer service rep told me company policy is to pour them down the drain if they are returned.  Store doesn't want the liability.


--
Best regards,
 Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com

--

Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:20:35 PM, you wrote:





Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing.  I have not seen news reports anything close to “we are all going to die”.
 
And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs at all of people buying up all the Lysol and Purell.  I did buy a couple of the pump bottles of foaming hand soap we like, but the shelf was full.  News reports have said wash your hands and that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I don’t think that’s doomsday advice.
 
I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all crazy there (as usual).  Actually I have to admit that I recently discovered the steaks from Walmart are actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson Fresh Meats.
 
From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
 
There are only a few things we know for sure.

1. It is already in the US
2. More people in the US will get it
3. More people in the US will die.

Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't know anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this virus starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if you bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some experts".  The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as the most likely scenario.  We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We don't know how it reacts to UV light.  We don't know how it will do in warm/humid conditions.

My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the states before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not everyone who gets hospitalized will die.

The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping this thing  way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of Lysol or Lysol type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant wipes were gone.  Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.  The closest reported "maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we get a reported case in Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start burning and looting?


--
Best regards,
Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com

--

Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:




I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I do pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find though.
This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you

bp


On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:











Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a Nazi.  So the Internet says.

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is in asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too Weve said too much

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:




Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.

On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:




Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians. Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. Ge

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

You have to sing 2 rounds of happy birthday when you wash your hands, fyi,
otherwise the soap isnt really doimg anything. I found this out when i had
c. Diff a couple months ago. I also would prefer kungflu over c diff.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 7:08 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> They were reporting it in december, heavily
>
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 6:18 PM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> I humbly disagree.
>>
>> I’ve been tracking this thing in China since it started in late December.
>>
>> I kept asking myself “why is the media NOT reporting on this?  They like
>> to hype everything!”
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:53 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>> wrote:
>>
>> There are only a few things we know for sure.
>>
>> 1. It is already in the US
>> 2. More people in the US will get it
>> 3. More people in the US will die.
>>
>> Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't
>> know anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this
>> virus starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if
>> you bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some
>> experts".  The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey
>> lets just report 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as
>> the most likely scenario.  We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We
>> don't know how it reacts to UV light.  We don't know how it will do in
>> warm/humid conditions.
>>
>> My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the
>> states before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered
>> thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not
>> everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not everyone who
>> gets hospitalized will die.
>>
>> The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping this
>> thing  way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of
>> Lysol or Lysol type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant
>> wipes were gone.  Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.
>> The closest reported "maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we
>> get a reported case in Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start
>> burning and looting?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com 
>>
>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>> www.Myakka.com
>>
>> --
>>
>> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs.
>> I do pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find
>> though.
>> This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin:
>>
>> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>>
>> Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a
>> Nazi.  So the Internet says.
>>
>> *From:* AF   *On
>> Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
>>
>> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia
>> is in asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too
>> Weve said too much
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.
>>
>> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically
>> designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians.
>> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a
>> majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global
>> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband
>> Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. Germany
>> and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there
>> is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett 
>> wrote:
>>
>> You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?
>>
>> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> > I'm waiting for Godwin...
>> >
>> >
>> > bp
>> > 
>> >
>> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a
>> >> "conspiracy".
>> >>
>> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the
>> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim
>> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch
>> >> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they
>> >> won't let go of them.
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong
>> >>
>> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu


On a side note.  Thanks for letting me rant and rave here.  Can't do it at home, wife just rolls eyes and tells me I'm a grumpy old man.  Chuck, I know you are saving me a few $ in therapy.  So, Thank You.   


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 Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com

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Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53 PM, you wrote:





OK, maybe this is hysterical reporting (it’s from Washington Post after all), but sounds kind of science-y.
 
The novel coronavirus has probably been spreading undetected for about six weeks in Washington state, where the first U.S. death was reported this weekend. A genetic analysis suggests that the cases are linked through community transmission and that this has been going on for weeks, with hundreds of infections likely in the state. 
 
 
From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
 
Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing.  I have not seen news reports anything close to “we are all going to die”.
 
And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs at all of people buying up all the Lysol and Purell.  I did buy a couple of the pump bottles of foaming hand soap we like, but the shelf was full.  News reports have said wash your hands and that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I don’t think that’s doomsday advice.
 
I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all crazy there (as usual).  Actually I have to admit that I recently discovered the steaks from Walmart are actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson Fresh Meats.
 
From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
 
There are only a few things we know for sure.

1. It is already in the US
2. More people in the US will get it
3. More people in the US will die.

Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't know anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this virus starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if you bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some experts".  The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as the most likely scenario.  We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We don't know how it reacts to UV light.  We don't know how it will do in warm/humid conditions.

My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the states before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not everyone who gets hospitalized will die.

The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping this thing  way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of Lysol or Lysol type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant wipes were gone.  Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.  The closest reported "maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we get a reported case in Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start burning and looting?


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Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com

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Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:




I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I do pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find though.
This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you

bp


On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:











Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a Nazi.  So the Internet says.

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is in asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too Weve said too much

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:




Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.

On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:




Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians. Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-01 Thread Bill Prince

or four rounds of baby shark.

On 3/1/2020 5:11 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

You have to sing 2 rounds of happy birthday when
you wash your hands, fyi, otherwise the soap isnt really doimg
anything. I found this out when i had c. Diff a couple months
ago. I also would prefer kungflu over c diff.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 7:08 PM
Steve Jones
wrote:

They were reporting it in december, heavily

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 6:18
PM Matt Hoppes
wrote:

I humbly disagree.

I’ve been tracking this thing in China
since it started in late December.

I kept asking myself “why is the media
NOT reporting on this? They like to hype everything!”

On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:53 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies

wrote:

There are only a few things we
know for sure.

1. It is already in the US
2. More people in the US will get it
3. More people in the US will die.

Anything other than this is pure speculation at
this point. We don't know anything about this
virus. Most everything I hear or read about this
virus starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE
ALL GOING TO DIE". But if you bother to listen or
read the article, it always has "may" or "some
experts". The current official incubation period
is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report 14 days and
base all our models on this and report it as the
most likely scenario. We don't know how long it
lives on surfaces. We don't know how it reacts to
UV light. We don't know how it will do in
warm/humid conditions.

My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's), This
virus has been in the states before the first
reported case. People have had it and recovered
thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed
is going to get it. Not everyone who gets it is
going to need to be hospitalized. Not everyone
who gets hospitalized will die.

The media once again is doing us a huge
dis-service. They are hyping this thing way out
of proportion. Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every
can of Lysol or Lysol type of product was gone.
Every package of disinfectant wipes were gone.
Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.
Crazy. The closest reported "maybe" case is over
1300 miles away. God forbid we get a reported
case in Florida, what will happen then? Going to
start burning and looting?

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Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com

Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:

I am not a doctor. I
don't even play one on TV or any podcasts
or blogs. I do pay attention to as much
scientifically-based information I can
find though.
This is a pretty good synopsis on our
current knowledge without any spin:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-01 Thread Chuck McCown

We are pretty well prepared for the end days in Utah...

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 5:21 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> 
> Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing.  I have not seen news reports 
> anything close to “we are all going to die”.
>  
> And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs at all of people buying up 
> all the Lysol and Purell.  I did buy a couple of the pump bottles of foaming 
> hand soap we like, but the shelf was full.  News reports have said wash your 
> hands and that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I don’t think 
> that’s doomsday advice.
>  
> I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all crazy there (as usual).  
> Actually I have to admit that I recently discovered the steaks from Walmart 
> are actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson Fresh Meats.
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
> Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>  
> There are only a few things we know for sure.
> 
> 1. It is already in the US
> 2. More people in the US will get it
> 3. More people in the US will die.
> 
> Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't know 
> anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this virus 
> starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if you 
> bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some experts".  
> The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report 
> 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as the most likely 
> scenario.  We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We don't know how it 
> reacts to UV light.  We don't know how it will do in warm/humid conditions.
> 
> My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the 
> states before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered 
> thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not 
> everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not everyone who 
> gets hospitalized will die.
> 
> The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping this 
> thing  way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of Lysol 
> or Lysol type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant wipes were 
> gone.  Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.  The closest 
> reported "maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we get a reported 
> case in Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start burning and looting?
> 
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
> 
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.Myakka.com
> 
> --
> 
> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:
> 
> I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I do 
> pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find though.
> This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin:
> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you
> 
> bp
> 
> 
> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a Nazi.  
> So the Internet says.
> 
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
> 
> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is in 
> asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too Weve 
> said too much
> 
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
> Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.
> 
> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically 
> designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians. 
> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a 
> majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global 
> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband 
> Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. Germany 
> and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there 
> is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
> You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus?
> 
> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> > I'm waiting for Godwin...
> >
> >
> > bp
> > 
> >
> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a 
> >> "conspiracy".
> >>
> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the 
> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim 
> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch 
> >> onto early bits of infor

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-01 Thread Chuck McCown

My oldest home - again son is much worse than you guys.  He is very alt right 
too.  He might be Alex Jones... I have never seen them both at the same place 
at the same time.  He is certain Kung flu is gonna get us all.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies  
> wrote:
> 
>  On a side note.  Thanks for letting me rant and rave here.  Can't do it at 
> home, wife just rolls eyes and tells me I'm a grumpy old man.  Chuck, I know 
> you are saving me a few $ in therapy.  So, Thank You.   
> 
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
> 
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.Myakka.com
> 
> --
> 
> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53 PM, you wrote:
> 
> 
> OK, maybe this is hysterical reporting (it’s from Washington Post after all), 
> but sounds kind of science-y.
> 
> The novel coronavirus has probably been spreading undetected for about six 
> weeks in Washington state, where the first U.S. death was reported this 
> weekend. A genetic analysis suggests that the cases are linked through 
> community transmission and that this has been going on for weeks, with 
> hundreds of infections likely in the state.
> 
> 
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
> 
> Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing.  I have not seen news reports 
> anything close to “we are all going to die”.
> 
> And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs at all of people buying up 
> all the Lysol and Purell.  I did buy a couple of the pump bottles of foaming 
> hand soap we like, but the shelf was full.  News reports have said wash your 
> hands and that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I don’t think 
> that’s doomsday advice.
> 
> I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all crazy there (as usual).  
> Actually I have to admit that I recently discovered the steaks from Walmart 
> are actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson Fresh Meats.
> 
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
> Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
> 
> There are only a few things we know for sure.
> 
> 1. It is already in the US
> 2. More people in the US will get it
> 3. More people in the US will die.
> 
> Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't know 
> anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this virus 
> starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if you 
> bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some experts".  
> The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report 
> 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as the most likely 
> scenario.  We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We don't know how it 
> reacts to UV light.  We don't know how it will do in warm/humid conditions.
> 
> My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the 
> states before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered 
> thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not 
> everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not everyone who 
> gets hospitalized will die.
> 
> The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping this 
> thing  way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of Lysol 
> or Lysol type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant wipes were 
> gone.  Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.  The closest 
> reported "maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we get a reported 
> case in Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start burning and looting?
> 
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
> 
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.Myakka.com
> 
> --
> 
> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:
> 
> I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I do 
> pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find though.
> This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin:
> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you
> 
> bp
> 
> 
> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> 
> 
> Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a Nazi.  
> So the Internet says.
> 
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)
> 
> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is in 
> asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too Weve 
> said too much
> 
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
> 
> Nazis also hate Communists.  It all fits.
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

i never understood it, on the right, we tend to be the most prepared. most
of the die hard preppers are right minded. we tend to be the most capable
of utilizing primal tools and food/water sources. if it goes boogity, we
have the best firepower and ammunition and training. so i never understood
why people on the right get very nervous about these things. a lot like
devout christians worying about end times and rapture.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> My oldest home - again son is much worse than you guys.  He is very alt
> right too.  He might be Alex Jones... I have never seen them both at the
> same place at the same time.  He is certain Kung flu is gonna get us all.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies 
> wrote:
>
>  On a side note.  Thanks for letting me rant and rave here.  Can't do it
> at home, wife just rolls eyes and tells me I'm a grumpy old man.  Chuck, I
> know you are saving me a few $ in therapy.  So, Thank You.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com 
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.Myakka.com
>
> --
>
> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53 PM, you wrote:
>
>
> OK, maybe this is hysterical reporting (it’s from Washington Post after
> all), but sounds kind of science-y.
>
> The novel coronavirus has probably been spreading undetected for about six
> weeks in Washington state, where the first U.S. death was reported this
> weekend. A genetic analysis suggests that the cases are linked through
> community transmission and that this has been going on for weeks, with
> hundreds of infections likely in the state.
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>
> Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing.  I have not seen news reports
> anything close to “we are all going to die”.
>
> And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs at all of people buying
> up all the Lysol and Purell.  I did buy a couple of the pump bottles of
> foaming hand soap we like, but the shelf was full.  News reports have said
> wash your hands and that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I don’t
> think that’s doomsday advice.
>
> I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all crazy there (as usual).
> Actually I have to admit that I recently discovered the steaks from Walmart
> are actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson Fresh Meats.
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Mark - Myakka
> Technologies
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>
> There are only a few things we know for sure.
>
> 1. It is already in the US
> 2. More people in the US will get it
> 3. More people in the US will die.
>
> Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't know
> anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this virus
> starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if you
> bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some
> experts".  The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey
> lets just report 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as
> the most likely scenario.  We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We
> don't know how it reacts to UV light.  We don't know how it will do in
> warm/humid conditions.
>
> My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the
> states before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered
> thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not
> everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not everyone who
> gets hospitalized will die.
>
> The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping this
> thing  way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of
> Lysol or Lysol type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant
> wipes were gone.  Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.
> The closest reported "maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we
> get a reported case in Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start
> burning and looting?
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com 
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.Myakka.com
>
> --
>
> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 3:55:47 PM, you wrote:
>
> I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I
> do pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find
> though.
> This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin:
>
> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>
> Nazis are socialists.  Bernie is a socialist.  Therefore Bernie is a
> Nazi.  So the Internet says.
>
> *From:* AF

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu


Well, Well, Well, here we go.

"One patient is an adult in Manatee County. According to the Department of Health, the patient does not have a travel history to countries identified for restricted travel by the CDC. The patient is being treated at Doctors Hospital in Sarasota."

That's my county and I just drove past that hospital this afternoon. Now this is a "presumptive" that hasn't been confirmed by the CDC yet, but what the hell lets just call it our first case.


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 Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com

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Sunday, March 1, 2020, 10:15:26 PM, you wrote:





i never understood it, on the right, we tend to be the most prepared. most of the die hard preppers are right minded. we tend to be the most capable of utilizing primal tools and food/water sources. if it goes boogity, we have the best firepower and ammunition and training. so i never understood why people on the right get very nervous about these things. a lot like devout christians worying about end times and rapture.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:




My oldest home - again son is much worse than you guys.  He is very alt right too.  He might be Alex Jones... I have never seen them both at the same place at the same time.  He is certain Kung flu is gonna get us all.  

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies  wrote:







 On a side note.  Thanks for letting me rant and rave here.  Can't do it at home, wife just rolls eyes and tells me I'm a grumpy old man.  Chuck, I know you are saving me a few $ in therapy.  So, Thank You.   


--
Best regards,
Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com

--

Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53 PM, you wrote:





OK, maybe this is hysterical reporting (it’s from Washington Post after all), but sounds kind of science-y.

The novel coronavirus has probably been spreading undetected for about six weeks in Washington state, where the first U.S. death was reported this weekend. A genetic analysis suggests that the cases are linked through community transmission and that this has been going on for weeks, with hundreds of infections likely in the state. 


From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing.  I have not seen news reports anything close to “we are all going to die”.

And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs at all of people buying up all the Lysol and Purell.  I did buy a couple of the pump bottles of foaming hand soap we like, but the shelf was full.  News reports have said wash your hands and that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I don’t think that’s doomsday advice.

I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all crazy there (as usual).  Actually I have to admit that I recently discovered the steaks from Walmart are actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson Fresh Meats.

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

There are only a few things we know for sure.

1. It is already in the US
2. More people in the US will get it
3. More people in the US will die.

Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't know anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this virus starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if you bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some experts".  The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey lets just report 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as the most likely scenario.  We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We don't know how it reacts to UV light.  We don't know how it will do in warm/humid conditions.

My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the states before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.  Not everyone who gets hospitalized will die.

The media once again is doing us a huge dis-service. They are hyping this thing  way out of proportion.  Was at Wal-mart yesterday. Every can of Lysol or Lysol type of product was gone.  Every package of disinfectant wipes were gone.  Every bottle of any sized hand sanitizer, gone.  Crazy.  The closest reported "maybe" case is over 1300 miles away.  God forbid we get a reported case in Florida, what will happen then?  Going to start burning and looting?


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Best regards,
Mark                            mailto:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

there have been hundreds of presumptives. are they all first case? does
suck, the wifes c section is on the 20th, thats 3 days in a petri dish. if
we get a case in that hospital, all bets are off. luckily, a c section is
12 weeks off work, so kung flu will be gone by the time she goes back.
media needs to quit reporting presumptive cases. sarasota is where my
brother lived before he died, big meth community there, you do not want
those guys getting it

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 10:12 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
wrote:

> Well, Well, Well, here we go.
>
> "One patient is an adult in Manatee County. According to the Department of
> Health, the patient does not have a travel history to countries identified
> for restricted travel by the CDC. The patient is being treated at Doctors
> Hospital in Sarasota."
>
> That's my county and I just drove past that hospital this afternoon. Now
> this is a "presumptive" that hasn't been confirmed by the CDC yet, but what
> the hell lets just call it our first case.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com 
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.Myakka.com
>
> --
>
> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 10:15:26 PM, you wrote:
>
>
> i never understood it, on the right, we tend to be the most prepared. most
> of the die hard preppers are right minded. we tend to be the most capable
> of utilizing primal tools and food/water sources. if it goes boogity, we
> have the best firepower and ammunition and training. so i never understood
> why people on the right get very nervous about these things. a lot like
> devout christians worying about end times and rapture.
>
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> My oldest home - again son is much worse than you guys.  He is very alt
> right too.  He might be Alex Jones... I have never seen them both at the
> same place at the same time.  He is certain Kung flu is gonna get us all.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies 
> wrote:
>
>  On a side note.  Thanks for letting me rant and rave here.  Can't do it
> at home, wife just rolls eyes and tells me I'm a grumpy old man.  Chuck, I
> know you are saving me a few $ in therapy.  So, Thank You.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com 
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.Myakka.com
>
> --
>
> Sunday, March 1, 2020, 7:47:53 PM, you wrote:
>
>
> OK, maybe this is hysterical reporting (it’s from Washington Post after
> all), but sounds kind of science-y.
>
> The novel coronavirus has probably been spreading undetected for about six
> weeks in Washington state, where the first U.S. death was reported this
> weekend. A genetic analysis suggests that the cases are linked through
> community transmission and that this has been going on for weeks, with
> hundreds of infections likely in the state.
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 6:21 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>
> Must be a Florida thing, or a Walmart thing.  I have not seen news reports
> anything close to “we are all going to die”.
>
> And I just stopped at the grocery store, no signs at all of people buying
> up all the Lysol and Purell.  I did buy a couple of the pump bottles of
> foaming hand soap we like, but the shelf was full.  News reports have said
> wash your hands and that it’s good advice for seasonal flu as well, I don’t
> think that’s doomsday advice.
>
> I have not checked Walmart, maybe things are all crazy there (as usual).
> Actually I have to admit that I recently discovered the steaks from Walmart
> are actually pretty good, they were branded Tyson Fresh Meats.
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Mark - Myakka
> Technologies
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 5:53 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
>
> There are only a few things we know for sure.
>
> 1. It is already in the US
> 2. More people in the US will get it
> 3. More people in the US will die.
>
> Anything other than this is pure speculation at this point.  We don't know
> anything about this virus.  Most everything I hear or read about this virus
> starts off with the equivalent of "WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE".  But if you
> bother to listen or read the article, it always has "may" or "some
> experts".  The current official incubation period is 2-14 days, but hey
> lets just report 14 days and base all our models on this and report it as
> the most likely scenario.  We don't know how long it lives on surfaces.  We
> don't know how it reacts to UV light.  We don't know how it will do in
> warm/humid conditions.
>
> My opinion (just as valid as anyone else's),  This virus has been in the
> states before the first reported case.  People have had it and recovered
> thinking it was just the flu. Not everyone exposed is going to get it.  Not
> everyone who gets it is going to need to be hospitalized.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu