Be sure and share when you get covid-19 because I am going to love reading what you write then, if you can... Oh because I expect you to go out and expose yourself because it's going to be so easy to get over...

On 03/01/2020 08:36 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:52 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    The test "kits" the media spews on about not existing. Not the
    programatic systems sent out to labs. There is no field test. "Test
    kits" arent a first responder tool.

    That article is a prime example of "hoax" indicates the tests werent
    working, caused a delay, etc. They did work, for covid19,
    flawlessly, they simply false positive on others. Now thats the test
    theyre using, they just dont tide the others.


    On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
    <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

        If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?____

        
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206____

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        If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one.  Look at
        the label on the box, the labels on the vials, and the
        attribution of the photo.____

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        *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
        *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool____

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        The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal
        response. Thats been available. Illinois has turned up a few
        labs capable of teating the samples. There arent "test kits".
        State level testing is a state responsibility, not federal. So
        yes, washington state did fuck this up willfully.____


        Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be
        practicing response for decades. Containment protocols arent
        specific to this disease, literally the same as flu response.
        The federal government can put out all the guidance you can
        dream of, but if the local providers dont do it, its useless.____

        My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down
        the iso hallway yesterday and all the doors were opened. You
        going to blame trump for that too?____

        She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her
        face shape, as does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a
        federal responsibility too? Should the fed come in and reshape
        faces so everyones n95 mask actually works?____

        State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an
        active list of potential oveflow and quarantine facilities,
        thats a requirement of some of the disaster response funding
        they recieve. Thats been in play for over 20 years that im
        personally aware of. ____

        If the existing systems that were designed and implemented
        specifically for prepared response to boilogics, we would have
        virtually zero risk of a pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance
        stage. ____

        On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
        <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:____

            All of _what_ has been done.   In Washington state they just
            announced that they don't have resources to test any but the
            worst cases.   That's with only 7-10 cases identified as
            needing testing.   You couldn't fu'k this up any worse if
            you were trying to!   The "most advanced" country in the
            world isn't doing a lot better than Iran at this point...____

            On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:____

                All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has been. ____

                More testing? Of whom?____

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                On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof
                <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:____

                    Well, it would be nice to see more preparation.  Not
                    testing more people was bad, we can’t unspill that
                    milk.____

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                    There should be extra hospital beds being
                    identified, and triage facilities with properly
                    protected healthcare workers, so people who think
                    they are infected don’t just walk into their doctor
                    or hospital’s waiting room.____

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                    Maybe I’m the only one, but I honestly don’t know
                    what I am supposed to do if I get sick.  Call the
                    doctor?  Stay inside and see how bad it gets?  Go
                    get tested?  Where?____

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                    South Korea and parts of the UK have set up
                    drive-through testing facilities where you don’t
                    leave your car.  That sounds like maybe a good
                    thing.  Or let me swab my own throat and have
                    someone bring it somewhere for testing.  Then if the
                    test comes back positive, what am I supposed to do?____

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                    Maybe this is where telemedicine comes in.____

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                    *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
                    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of
                    *Steve Jones
                    *Sent:* Saturday, February 29, 2020 5:44 PM
                    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                    <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool____

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                    Its been close to 60 days here, the pond should be
                    overflowing____

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                    On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:40 PM Matt Hoppes
                    <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
                    <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:____

                        I’m not panicking yet.

                        I’m *probably* attending the show. We’ll see
                        where things end up in two weeks.

                        I’m seriously considering bowing out of MuM and
                        an event the month after at this point though.
                        We shall see.

                        Remember the lily pad problem:

                        A single lily pad is on a pond and the number
                        double every day. In 28 days the entire pond
                        will be covered. It’s on day 27 that only half
                        the pond is covered. Days 1-26 look pretty calm.
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