Yep that will be me when Steve is over his case...

On 03/01/2020 09:14 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
Rotflmao
On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 11:13 AM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com 
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
    Tests were allowing false negatives, look up the article about the
    person released from quarantine in Southern California from the Air
    Force base.   Second test showed a positive.

    On 03/01/2020 07:52 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
     > The test "kits" the media spews on about not existing. Not the
     > programatic systems sent out to labs. There is no field test. "Test
     > kits" arent a first responder tool.
     >
     > That article is a prime example of "hoax" indicates the tests werent
     > working, caused a delay, etc. They did work, for covid19,
    flawlessly,
     > they simply false positive on others. Now thats the test theyre
    using,
     > they just dont tide the others.
     >
     >
     > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
    <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
     > <mailto:af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>> wrote:
     >
     >     If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?____
     >
     >
    
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206____
     >
     >     __ __
     >
     >     If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one.  Look
    at the
     >     label on the box, the labels on the vials, and the attribution of
     >     the photo.____
     >
     >     __ __
     >
     >     __ __
     >
     >     *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
     >     <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
     >     *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
     >     *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
     >     <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>>
     >     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool____
     >
     >     __ __
     >
     >     The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal
     >     response. Thats been available. Illinois has turned up a few labs
     >     capable of teating the samples. There arent "test kits".
    State level
     >     testing is a state responsibility, not federal. So yes,
    washington
     >     state did fuck this up willfully.____
     >
     >
     >     Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be
    practicing
     >     response for decades. Containment protocols arent specific to
    this
     >     disease, literally the same as flu response. The federal
    government
     >     can put out all the guidance you can dream of, but if the local
     >     providers dont do it, its useless.____
     >
     >     My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down the
     >     iso hallway yesterday and all the doors were opened. You going to
     >     blame trump for that too?____
     >
     >     She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her
    face
     >     shape, as does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a
    federal
     >     responsibility too? Should the fed come in and reshape faces so
     >     everyones n95 mask actually works?____
     >
     >     State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an
     >     active list of potential oveflow and quarantine facilities,
    thats a
     >     requirement of some of the disaster response funding they
    recieve.
     >     Thats been in play for over 20 years that im personally aware
    of. ____
     >
     >     If the existing systems that were designed and implemented
     >     specifically for prepared response to boilogics, we would have
     >     virtually zero risk of a pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance
     >     stage. ____
     >
     >     On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
    <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>
     >     <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com
    <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>> wrote:____
     >
     >         All of _what_ has been done.   In Washington state they just
     >         announced that they don't have resources to test any but the
     >         worst cases.   That's with only 7-10 cases identified as
    needing
     >         testing.   You couldn't fu'k this up any worse if you were
     >         trying to!   The "most advanced" country in the world isn't
     >         doing a lot better than Iran at this point...____
     >
     >         On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:____
     >
     >             All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has
    been. ____
     >
     >             More testing? Of whom?____
     >
     >             __ __
     >
     >             On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof
    <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
     >             <mailto:af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>>
    wrote:____
     >
     >                 Well, it would be nice to see more preparation.  Not
     >                 testing more people was bad, we can’t unspill
    that milk.____
     >
     >                 ____
     >
     >                 There should be extra hospital beds being identified,
     >                 and triage facilities with properly protected
    healthcare
     >                 workers, so people who think they are infected don’t
     >                 just walk into their doctor or hospital’s waiting
    room.____
     >
     >                 ____
     >
     >                 Maybe I’m the only one, but I honestly don’t know
    what I
     >                 am supposed to do if I get sick.  Call the
    doctor?  Stay
> inside and see how bad it gets? Go get tested? Where?____
     >
     >                 ____
     >
     >                 South Korea and parts of the UK have set up
     >                 drive-through testing facilities where you don’t
    leave
> your car. That sounds like maybe a good thing. Or let
     >                 me swab my own throat and have someone bring it
     >                 somewhere for testing.  Then if the test comes back
     >                 positive, what am I supposed to do?____
     >
     >                 ____
     >
     >                 Maybe this is where telemedicine comes in.____
     >
     >                 ____
     >
     >                 ____
     >
     >                 *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
     >                 <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
     >                 *Sent:* Saturday, February 29, 2020 5:44 PM
     >                 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
     >                 <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>>
     >                 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool____
     >
     >                 ____
     >
     >                 Its been close to 60 days here, the pond should be
     >                 overflowing____
     >
     >                 ____
     >
     >                 On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:40 PM Matt Hoppes
     >                 <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
    <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
     >                 <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
    <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote:____
     >
     >                     I’m not panicking yet.
     >
     >                     I’m *probably* attending the show. We’ll see
    where
     >                     things end up in two weeks.
     >
     >                     I’m seriously considering bowing out of MuM
    and an
     >                     event the month after at this point though.
    We shall
     >                     see.
     >
     >                     Remember the lily pad problem:
     >
     >                     A single lily pad is on a pond and the number
    double
     >                     every day. In 28 days the entire pond will be
     >                     covered. It’s on day 27 that only half the
    pond is
     >                     covered. Days 1-26 look pretty calm.
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