The test "kits" the media spews on about not existing. Not the programatic
systems sent out to labs. There is no field test. "Test kits" arent a first
responder tool.

That article is a prime example of "hoax" indicates the tests werent
working, caused a delay, etc. They did work, for covid19, flawlessly, they
simply false positive on others. Now thats the test theyre using, they just
dont tide the others.


On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?
>
>
> https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206
>
>
>
> If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one.  Look at the label
> on the box, the labels on the vials, and the attribution of the photo.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
>
>
>
> The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal response.
> Thats been available. Illinois has turned up a few labs capable of teating
> the samples. There arent "test kits". State level testing is a state
> responsibility, not federal. So yes, washington state did fuck this up
> willfully.
>
>
> Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be practicing
> response for decades. Containment protocols arent specific to this disease,
> literally the same as flu response. The federal government can put out all
> the guidance you can dream of, but if the local providers dont do it, its
> useless.
>
> My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down the iso
> hallway yesterday and all the doors were opened. You going to blame trump
> for that too?
>
> She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face shape,
> as does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a federal responsibility
> too? Should the fed come in and reshape faces so everyones n95 mask
> actually works?
>
> State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an active list
> of potential oveflow and quarantine facilities, thats a requirement of some
> of the disaster response funding they recieve. Thats been in play for over
> 20 years that im personally aware of.
>
> If the existing systems that were designed and implemented specifically
> for prepared response to boilogics, we would have virtually zero risk of a
> pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance stage.
>
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>
> All of _what_ has been done.   In Washington state they just announced
> that they don't have resources to test any but the worst cases.   That's
> with only 7-10 cases identified as needing testing.   You couldn't fu'k
> this up any worse if you were trying to!   The "most advanced" country in
> the world isn't doing a lot better than Iran at this point...
>
> On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has been.
>
> More testing? Of whom?
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> Well, it would be nice to see more preparation.  Not testing more people
> was bad, we can’t unspill that milk.
>
>
>
> There should be extra hospital beds being identified, and triage
> facilities with properly protected healthcare workers, so people who think
> they are infected don’t just walk into their doctor or hospital’s waiting
> room.
>
>
>
> Maybe I’m the only one, but I honestly don’t know what I am supposed to do
> if I get sick.  Call the doctor?  Stay inside and see how bad it gets?  Go
> get tested?  Where?
>
>
>
> South Korea and parts of the UK have set up drive-through testing
> facilities where you don’t leave your car.  That sounds like maybe a good
> thing.  Or let me swab my own throat and have someone bring it somewhere
> for testing.  Then if the test comes back positive, what am I supposed to
> do?
>
>
>
> Maybe this is where telemedicine comes in.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 29, 2020 5:44 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
>
>
>
> Its been close to 60 days here, the pond should be overflowing
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:40 PM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
> I’m not panicking yet.
>
> I’m *probably* attending the show. We’ll see where things end up in two
> weeks.
>
> I’m seriously considering bowing out of MuM and an event the month after
> at this point though. We shall see.
>
> Remember the lily pad problem:
>
> A single lily pad is on a pond and the number double every day. In 28 days
> the entire pond will be covered. It’s on day 27 that only half the pond is
> covered. Days 1-26 look pretty calm.
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