Also the article stated that States were prohibited from the CDC from
more widespread testing. THAT is a direct cause and effect from the
federal government. Steve you have always come across as the wacky guy
I loved to read, now you are just coming across as a FU... READ THE
FRICKING DATA. & I agree with your wife the open doors are a joke.
But so are hospitals that don't allow fresh air circulation to save
heating bills.
On 03/01/2020 08:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Steve, you must not even had read the article, to say it’s a prime
example of a hoax. It has extensive direct quotes from federal and
state government officials, virtually all the information in the article
is from credible government sources. Not even summarized or
paraphrased, it consists mostly of direct quotes.
I don’t see how this is an example of the media “spewing” false information.
And yes it’s a lab test, but now many state and local labs will be able
to do the tests. Nobody is saying it’s an instant on-the-spot test,
like a breathalyzer or the 5-minute rapid strep test. Even with strep,
if the rapid test is positive, the doctor sends a sample to the lab for
overnight testing.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:52 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
The test "kits" the media spews on about not existing. Not the
programatic systems sent out to labs. There is no field test. "Test
kits" arent a first responder tool.
That article is a prime example of "hoax" indicates the tests werent
working, caused a delay, etc. They did work, for covid19, flawlessly,
they simply false positive on others. Now thats the test theyre using,
they just dont tide the others.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206
If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one. Look at the
label on the box, the labels on the vials, and the attribution of
the photo.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal
response. Thats been available. Illinois has turned up a few labs
capable of teating the samples. There arent "test kits". State level
testing is a state responsibility, not federal. So yes, washington
state did fuck this up willfully.
Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be practicing
response for decades. Containment protocols arent specific to this
disease, literally the same as flu response. The federal government
can put out all the guidance you can dream of, but if the local
providers dont do it, its useless.
My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down the
iso hallway yesterday and all the doors were opened. You going to
blame trump for that too?
She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face
shape, as does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a federal
responsibility too? Should the fed come in and reshape faces so
everyones n95 mask actually works?
State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an
active list of potential oveflow and quarantine facilities, thats a
requirement of some of the disaster response funding they recieve.
Thats been in play for over 20 years that im personally aware of.
If the existing systems that were designed and implemented
specifically for prepared response to boilogics, we would have
virtually zero risk of a pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance stage.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
All of _what_ has been done. In Washington state they just
announced that they don't have resources to test any but the
worst cases. That's with only 7-10 cases identified as needing
testing. You couldn't fu'k this up any worse if you were
trying to! The "most advanced" country in the world isn't
doing a lot better than Iran at this point...
On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has been.
More testing? Of whom?
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Well, it would be nice to see more preparation. Not
testing more people was bad, we can’t unspill that milk.
There should be extra hospital beds being identified,
and triage facilities with properly protected healthcare
workers, so people who think they are infected don’t
just walk into their doctor or hospital’s waiting room.
Maybe I’m the only one, but I honestly don’t know what I
am supposed to do if I get sick. Call the doctor? Stay
inside and see how bad it gets? Go get tested? Where?
South Korea and parts of the UK have set up
drive-through testing facilities where you don’t leave
your car. That sounds like maybe a good thing. Or let
me swab my own throat and have someone bring it
somewhere for testing. Then if the test comes back
positive, what am I supposed to do?
Maybe this is where telemedicine comes in.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Saturday, February 29, 2020 5:44 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool
Its been close to 60 days here, the pond should be
overflowing
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:40 PM Matt Hoppes
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
I’m not panicking yet.
I’m *probably* attending the show. We’ll see where
things end up in two weeks.
I’m seriously considering bowing out of MuM and an
event the month after at this point though. We shall
see.
Remember the lily pad problem:
A single lily pad is on a pond and the number double
every day. In 28 days the entire pond will be
covered. It’s on day 27 that only half the pond is
covered. Days 1-26 look pretty calm.
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