Tests were allowing false negatives, look up the article about the person released from quarantine in Southern California from the Air Force base. Second test showed a positive.

On 03/01/2020 07:52 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
The test "kits" the media spews on about not existing. Not the programatic systems sent out to labs. There is no field test. "Test kits" arent a first responder tool.

That article is a prime example of "hoax" indicates the tests werent working, caused a delay, etc. They did work, for covid19, flawlessly, they simply false positive on others. Now thats the test theyre using, they just dont tide the others.


On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

    If there aren’t test kits, what is in this photo?____

    
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/after-missteps-cdc-says-its-coronavirus-test-kit-ready-primetime-n1145206____

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    If this is a fake media hoax, it’s a very detailed one.  Look at the
    label on the box, the labels on the vials, and the attribution of
    the photo.____

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    *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
    *Sent:* Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:24 AM
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    The cdc does the majority of the testing... that is the federal
    response. Thats been available. Illinois has turned up a few labs
    capable of teating the samples. There arent "test kits". State level
    testing is a state responsibility, not federal. So yes, washington
    state did fuck this up willfully.____


    Specific testing aside, states have been supposed to be practicing
    response for decades. Containment protocols arent specific to this
    disease, literally the same as flu response. The federal government
    can put out all the guidance you can dream of, but if the local
    providers dont do it, its useless.____

    My wife works at a hospital and was pissed as she walked down the
    iso hallway yesterday and all the doors were opened. You going to
    blame trump for that too?____

    She fails her fit test every year for the mask because of her face
    shape, as does roughly 25 percent of the country. Is that a federal
    responsibility too? Should the fed come in and reshape faces so
    everyones n95 mask actually works?____

    State departments of public health are supposed to maintain an
    active list of potential oveflow and quarantine facilities, thats a
    requirement of some of the disaster response funding they recieve.
    Thats been in play for over 20 years that im personally aware of. ____

    If the existing systems that were designed and implemented
    specifically for prepared response to boilogics, we would have
    virtually zero risk of a pandemic ever going beyond the nusiance
    stage. ____

    On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:42 AM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
    <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:____

        All of _what_ has been done.   In Washington state they just
        announced that they don't have resources to test any but the
        worst cases.   That's with only 7-10 cases identified as needing
        testing.   You couldn't fu'k this up any worse if you were
        trying to!   The "most advanced" country in the world isn't
        doing a lot better than Iran at this point...____

        On 2/29/20 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote:____

            All that has been done. Thats ongoing, always has been. ____

            More testing? Of whom?____

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            On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
            <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:____

                Well, it would be nice to see more preparation.  Not
                testing more people was bad, we can’t unspill that milk.____

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                There should be extra hospital beds being identified,
                and triage facilities with properly protected healthcare
                workers, so people who think they are infected don’t
                just walk into their doctor or hospital’s waiting room.____

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                Maybe I’m the only one, but I honestly don’t know what I
                am supposed to do if I get sick.  Call the doctor?  Stay
                inside and see how bad it gets?  Go get tested?  Where?____

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                South Korea and parts of the UK have set up
                drive-through testing facilities where you don’t leave
                your car.  That sounds like maybe a good thing.  Or let
                me swab my own throat and have someone bring it
                somewhere for testing.  Then if the test comes back
                positive, what am I supposed to do?____

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                Maybe this is where telemedicine comes in.____

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                *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
                <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
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                *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
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                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT shall we start a pool____

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                Its been close to 60 days here, the pond should be
                overflowing____

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                On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:40 PM Matt Hoppes
                <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
                <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:____

                    I’m not panicking yet.

                    I’m *probably* attending the show. We’ll see where
                    things end up in two weeks.

                    I’m seriously considering bowing out of MuM and an
                    event the month after at this point though. We shall
                    see.

                    Remember the lily pad problem:

                    A single lily pad is on a pond and the number double
                    every day. In 28 days the entire pond will be
                    covered. It’s on day 27 that only half the pond is
                    covered. Days 1-26 look pretty calm.
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