[Pharo-users] Teapot and POST:

I'm trying to learn how to use Teapot. The documentation is pretty clear about how to do GET: but it's thoroughly useless about how to do POST:. Is there any example for how to do POST:? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Teapot-and-POST-tp4951616.html Sent from the Pharo Sm

Re: [Pharo-users] Teapot and POST:

Thank you very much! Now, I understand. However, it's not *that* obvious. Your excellent POST: example really should be in the documentation. Attila Magyar wrote > It's basically the same as GET and the others. The request object contains > the url encoded form data or whatever was posted. The re

[Pharo-users] UUIDGenerator

Is there even one shred of documentation anywhere that shows how to use UUIDGenerator? A thorough Google search reveals nothing! All I find are reference materials. I'd like to see just one working code sample, no matter how simple. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/UUIDGene

Re: [Pharo-users] UUIDGenerator

Okay, I figured it out. Here's my method: generateUUID | aStream hex s x | hex := '0123456789ABCDEF'. x := ByteArray new: 16. UUIDGenerator default generateBytes: x forVersion: 4. s := String new: 32. aStream := WriteStream on: s. x do: [ :each | aStream nextPut: (hex a

Re: [Pharo-users] UUIDGenerator

ment in from the newer > version. > >> On 17 Jun 2017, at 16:27, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> >> Okay, I figured it out. Here's my method: >> >> generateUUID >>| aStream hex s x | >>hex := '0123456789ABCDE

Re: [Pharo-users] UUIDGenerator

se, Shift-Enter upper, scrolll down as bit, find > String>>#asUppercase > > Spotter is really great at finding stuff, and coupled with tests and > examples it helps in building understanding. > > Agreed, this is not the same as looking for stuff as in, say, Java or > Pyt

[Pharo-users] Teapot session

Does Teapot's (ZnRequest's?) session ever expire? What is the expiry period? I can't find where it's specified or configured. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Teapot-session-tp4951845.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-users] Teapot session

. Right now, the > expiration time is a fixed constant. > >> On 19 Jun 2017, at 08:08, Stephane Ducasse < > stepharo.self@ > > wrote: >> >> Teapot is a layer on zinc so you may check the Zinc chapters (I do not >> know if this is there). >> >&g

Re: [Pharo-users] Teapot session

Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote >> On 19 Jun 2017, at 15:40, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> >> I've added an attribute to the session called #user... >> >> req session attributeAt: #user ifAbsentPut: user >> >> This is used t

[Pharo-users] How to use HTTPS (SSL) with Zinc

Okay, so I have my nice little Teapot app, but I'd like to run it as HTTPS. As far as I can understand, to do this I must go through Zinc. However, the docs on the web seem rather out of date. For example, I do not have ZnZincServerAdapter (in Pharo 5.0). In the simplest terms, how do I support HT

Re: [Pharo-users] How to use HTTPS (SSL) with Zinc

I get an "SSL Exception: accept failed [code:-5]" error. Is it because I have a self-signed cert? Apparently, it's failing on: result := self sslSession accept: in from: 1 to: count into: out. Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote > Hi, > >> On 23 Jun 2017, at 20:41, h

Re: [Pharo-users] How to use HTTPS (SSL) with Zinc

This is on my Raspberry Pi running the latest Raspbian. I'm using Pharo 5.0. The browser is Firefox. Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote >> On 23 Jun 2017, at 23:39, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> >> I get an "SSL Exception: accept failed [code:

Re: [Pharo-users] How to use HTTPS (SSL) with Zinc

I discovered that I skipped an important step in creating the SSL cert. HTTPS is now working. However, for some reason, it's not finding my Teapot routes. The route that worked in http://localhost:1701/login, for example, no longer works in https://localhost:1443/login. I'm investigating... --

Re: [Pharo-users] How to use HTTPS (SSL) with Zinc

Okay, I think I understand. There are two server instances, one for http and one for https. How do I get Teapot to use the one for https??? horrido wrote > I discovered that I skipped an important step in creating the SSL cert. > HTTPS is now working. However, for some reason, it's

Re: [Pharo-users] How to use HTTPS (SSL) with Zinc

Are you referring to ConfigurationOfTeapot? I presume it's not loaded by your instruction: Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'zeroflag' project: 'Teapot'; configuration; loadStable. So how do I load it? Attila Magyar wrote > Teapot uses ZnServer defaultServerClass by default, but you can

Re: [Pharo-users] How to use HTTPS (SSL) with Zinc

Okay, I should've asked, how do I get the development version? horrido wrote > Are you referring to ConfigurationOfTeapot? I presume it's not loaded by > your instruction: > > Gofer it > smalltalkhubUser: 'zeroflag' project: 'Teapot'; > c

[Pharo-users] PreDebugWindow: Report to whom?

In the PreDebugWindow, there is an option to Report an exception. But to whom does it report? I can't find any documentation for this. I presume most developers would never need to Report anything. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/PreDebugWindow-Report-to-whom-tp4953974.h

[Pharo-users] Using the Debugger to write code

The *Pharo By Example* book says that you can use the Debugger to write code. So if you have a "does not understand" error, you're given the option of Creating a new method. That's cool. But for the life of me, I can't figure out how to create new classes for my application from within the Debugge

[Pharo-users] In Praise of the Very Best Programming Language

My farewell article? https://medium.com/@richardeng/in-praise-of-the-very-best-programming-language-eae36ae434af -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/In-Praise-of-the-Very-Best-Pr

[Pharo-users] Can anyone answer this?

Miles Fidelman (at Quora) and I were having an argument about the suitability of Smalltalk (Pharo) for large maintainable software projects. The problem is, I've never used Smalltalk in a commercial setting, esp. with respect to large projects. Without that experience, I am wholly unqualified to an

[Pharo-users] The Wisdom of the Crowd Redux

I'm glad people in the programming community are recognizing the value of Smalltalk: The Wisdom of the Crowd . I was very pleasantly surprised by this. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/The-Wisdom-of-th

[Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

I received this comment on Facebook: Smalltalk is a fantastic language and its development environment can't be beat... But the documentation for the many open source implementations is contradictory or confusing or missing. I can't speak for the commercial versions. Without an experienced mentor

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

example is > pretty straight forward. > > The commercial tools all have a decent "strip dead code" tool, that does a > similar thing in reverse - which is equally a decent way of approaching > the problem and can lead to even tinier results. > > Tim > > Sent f

Re: [Pharo-users] The Wisdom of the Crowd Redux

tive. I think > that is an interesting and novel approach for advocacy. > > [1] http://practicaltypography.com/why-racket-why-lisp.html > > Cheers, > > Offray > > On 22/08/17 12:09, Ben Coman wrote: >> nice article. thanks for sharing. >> cheers

[Pharo-users] Dark Mode

I found this interesting article . I wanted to express my opinion... Dark mode looks cool and all, but it does have a downside. I was very happy with the normal Pharo 5.0 look, but when Pharo 6.0

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

Oh, cool! I didn't realize that. (I've never had a need to look at Settings.) Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Dark-Mode-tp4964409p4964436.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Pharo-users] You can help me

I'm writing an article about Pharo. I would like to list the Top 10 "really big" things that have been developed in the past several years, /or are being developed right now/. Please word it in a way that laypeople (like CTOs and non-Smalltalkers) can understand. Thanks. (I know "really big" is ra

[Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk If you would like to suggest some edits, I'm all ears. Anything to improve the impact of the article. Thanks. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

Yes, the "updated" angle was the crucial tactic. Thanks. I just wanted to inform you that in just 48 hours since publication, this article has gathered over 11,000 views! This is a new record for me. Fastest rising. I am astounded by the number; I really didn't expect it. It's a very, very nice w

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

I've incorporated some of the suggestions. Thanks. Here's a very lively discussion at Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15399442 The article has sparked a raging debate. Hacker News readers seem to really like the article, as it has garnered 150 points, /more than any other articl

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

I received this comment from someone who complained: *What about the lack of documentation? From time to time I’ve checked some SmallTalk implementations like Squeak, GNU-Smalltalk and now Pharo. Of these, only GNU-SmallTalk appears to have a free, official programming guide and core library refer

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

), people didn’t have a problem with trying different technologies. That’s why I had no issue with learning Smalltalk 10 years ago, after I had retired from a 20-year-long career in C systems programming and FORTRAN scientific programming. Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote >> On 6 Oct 2017, at 14:54, h

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

, oh the horrors of that >> syntax. yiaks !!! >> >> I am so enternal greatful that Pharo introduced me to live coding and >> opened my eyes to universe of fun and productivity. I cannot imagine >> coding an other way ever again. >> >> I really hope

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

> My point is that indeed you can do with EASE live coding in a numerous languages, at least to my experience. I have tried only Python and C/C++. Until I came upon this thread, I never knew you could do live coding in Python and C/C++. And I was a professional C/C++ programmer for over 15 years!

[Pharo-users] What does RMoD stand for?

It is bizarre. Nowhere on the web can I find any reference to what INRIA's *RMoD* acronym stands for. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

Hey, guys, I'm mentioned in this O'Reilly newsletter !!! All because of the Pharo article. I wonder, is my campaign /actually/ succeeding? If so, I can d

[Pharo-users] FYI about Pharo MOOC

Somebody posted this about the Pharo MOOC: https://medium.com/@josephshirk/it-would-be-nice-if-it-were-in-english-b07f6445f23 To which I responded: https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-videos-are-like-lecturers-in-university-49a68c23cf01 Some food for thought. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

well-documented (containing a cursory remark which is just barely useful). I realize that creating a live reference page is not easy to do. In fact, it's a lot of work. But the absence of such a page is a real obstacle to Pharo acceptance. horrido wrote > Thanks. I gave your answer verbatim. I a

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

I'll second that. Having separate namespaces would be really good. VisualWorks has them. Why not Pharo? kilon.alios wrote > The one things I trully miss, even know that I am "experieced" Pharo > coder, > depending on your standards, is python namespaces > > I dont care about the dot syntax but

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Argument

To quote from The Wisdom of the Crowd : The crowd is indeed wise. This wisdom shows up in the latest StackOverflow survey , as well

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Argument

Of all the responses here, I like this one the best because it's right on the money. In my long career, I've been dropped into many software projects where I had to quickly ramp up with a new programming language. The employer didn't hire me for my language expertise; they hired me for my programm

[Pharo-users] Multi-core Software Concurrency

With today’s powerful multi-core processors, the demand for efficient software concurrency is high. We find strong support for such concurrency in the latest crop of “modern” languages such as Clojure, Elixir, Go, Haskell, and Scala. Whenever I present Smalltalk (Pharo) as a great language option,

Re: [Pharo-users] Multi-core Software Concurrency

Yes, but isn't there an important class of concurrent software where lightweight threads work on shared state? Isn't that the reason for "goroutines" in Go, and STM in Clojure, and actors in Scala? Stephan Eggermont-3 wrote > On 23-10-17 15:27, horrido wrote: >> D

Re: [Pharo-users] Multi-core Software Concurrency

core that is idle to take advantage of your > multiple > cores. > > Summary: > The answer is "Pharo can do this by accessing the GPU which much faster > than CPU or can access multiple cores through multiple instances running > at > the same time". > > So ye

[Pharo-users] UFFI and Fortran

Can UFFI be used to call into a Fortran library? -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

[Pharo-users] Pharo: Reinventing Smalltalk

FYI, reader comments to my interview with Stef: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7a30vx/pharo_reinventing_smalltalk/ If you can respond, that would be great. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] UFFI and Fortran

Sounds like it's possible to call into TensorFlow (Python) from Pharo. That would give Pharo a tremendous boost for machine learning applications. Am I right? kilon.alios wrote > Maybe you talk about TalkFFI which aumatically wrapped C libraries for > Pharo and i think Squeak as well but used Na

Re: [Pharo-users] UFFI and Fortran

> On Nov 2, 2017, at 9:08 PM, Ben Coman < > btc@ > > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 11:10 AM, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > <mailto: > horrido.hobbies@ > >> wrote: >> Sounds like it's possible to call in

[Pharo-users] Typical Pharo Application Footprint

What is a typical Pharo application footprint size? (I'm assuming deployment starting with a minimal core image.) How small can a Pharo application be? -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

[Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

Why Pharo Might be the Future of Software Development Spread the word. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

I appreciate all the feedback, even the negative comments. Let me address some of them... First of all, you need to understand that this article, like nearly all of my other articles, is about /marketing/. I've never made any bones about this. If you know anything about marketing, you know that i

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

"There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." Oscar Wilde Smalltalk was on the verge of being forgotten. Now, people talk about it. Some may be turned off, I have no doubt. Some are curious; some are intrigued, enough to actually try Pharo (Sm

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

Looks like we may have a taker! You're my Doctor Who regeneration. :-) I'm in earnest. If someone can take over the marketing duties, I'll be glad to step down. I just don't want to see Smalltalk slip back into obscurity. Remember what marketing is all about:attracting eyeballs; raising curiosity

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

s keep the conversation going... Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote >> On 18 Nov 2017, at 18:19, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> >> Can anyone show me one technical article in the past 20 years that has >> garnered more than 10,000 pageviews? I

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

> Apple certainly does not do what you. Really??? I don't know what kind of ads Apple runs in Europe, but in North America, it's very obvious when Apple exaggerates or bends the truth. Remember those popular "I'm a PC, I'm a Mac" ads from a few years ago? They had all kinds of exaggerations and ha

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

Fortunately, I'm not selling a product, good or service. I'm selling an idea. The idea that you should use Pharo for software development. This isn't about commerce or trade, and thus there can be no basis for litigation. I'm rather amused that everyone has missed the fundamental point, which I ma

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

Well, I don't think we have to worry about Pharo becoming too big. I never expected Smalltalk to ever become big (again). I just want to see it lifted out of obscurity. If people talk about Pharo in the same breath as Clojure, Elixir, Haskell, and Rust, that would be great. Offray Vladimir Lun

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

Speaking of which, one of my readers said he tried out Pharo recently and found the documentation wanting. He was expecting a Getting Started guide at the pharo.org website and couldn't find one. So he had to blunder around a bit. I told him he could've looked at "Chapter 2: A quick tour of Pharo"

[Pharo-users] Where is Numerical Methods with Pharo?

What happened to the "Numerical Methods with Pharo" book? It suddenly vanished from pharo.org. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

rated!* Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote > Hi > > We have a full mooc with 90 videos, we have books. And we are super busy. > You see we cannot do everything. > > > Stef > > On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 5:15 AM, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> S

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

fusing the hell out of a visitor to pharo.org. Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 5:49 AM, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> Understood. I'm working on a Pharo Quick Start guide. If it passes muster >> with you guys, you may want to link

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

I've encountered another issue, this time with the macOS download... After I download the zip file, I unzip the file and move the Pharo application to the Applications folder. Then I have to right-click on the Pharo application and select open (double-clicking prevents me from opening the file at

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

I've completed the first draft of my Pharo Quick Start guide . I decided to forge ahead anyway. Feedback welcome. Note that I chose wget instead of curl because many Linux distros do not have curl installed. I've tested the guide

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

lize for the method > name? I think a name like #sayIt (for example) and invocation like "Hello > new sayIt" would make it explicit. > > This will be a great help for people who drop by out of curiosity. > > > On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:38 AM, horrido < > hor

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

d of a > strange introduction to programming: > > http://mutabit.com/offray/blog/en/entry/dumb-hello-world > > Cheers, > > Offray > > > On 07/12/17 15:31, horrido wrote: >> I've revised the draft slightly for the comments given here: >> https://medium

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

I'm not sure what you mean by *PrintIt:*. If you mean type 'Hello World' in the Playground and just *Print it*, that's not really a "program." Sean P. DeNigris wrote > hernanmd wrote >> To me the Hello World in Smalltalk was always just writing: 'Hello world' > > +1. While putting it in a class

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

Playground. > > """ > and then I would add the succinct explanation you are doing about how to > create the Greeter. > > Cheers, > > Offray > > On 08/12/17 09:41, horrido wrote: >> I'm not sure what you mean by *PrintIt:*. If you mean type

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

is nice. I like Greeter :) > The suggestion of Ben are fun for the next one. > I will add a link to your article. > > Stef > > On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:35 PM, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> Done. Class #Hello is now #Greeter in package

[Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

http://horridohobbies.tumblr.com/ *Today is the one-month anniversary of the SRP.* We have made good progress, but there is still much work ahead of us. Shortly, I will be seeking corporate sponsorship. As well, I'm trying to coordinate activities with the Sm

[Pharo-users] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2867543/java/redline-smalltalk-bridging-smalltalk-jvm-worlds.html Amber and Redline are vital *strategic* projects for Smalltalk. One is for the browser and one

Re: [Pharo-users] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

I had never heard of RTalk or Gravel. In all my Googling, I've never come across these two. They're obviously not on the minds of very many people. Are they even active projects? At least Redline is relatively prominent. At least James Ladd is actively working on it. His efforts should be commende

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

I agree that Amber is important, given that client-side web development is the /fad du jour/. But having a Smalltalk on the JVM is also important if we want to penetrate the enterprise. JVM is the closest thing we have to a "standard" enterprise platform. Languages such as Scala and Groovy have ha

Re: [Pharo-users] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

kilon.alios wrote > Porting code to JVM and Javascript has 3 issues > > a) you are no longer able to use the libraries of your popular > implementation (see Pharo) unless you wrap those libraries with something > like JNA (a ffi for JAVA) > b) most people would not use JVM unless if they have to a

Re: [Pharo-users] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

Thanks for this link! I always thought there was something not right about Angular, and this article (and its links) clearly lay out the issue. Obviously, I think Amber is a better solution. The one big takeaway from these anti-Angular articles, I think, is this... /IT management often make stu

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

This is a fine line to tread. I have several problems with self-censorship: First of all, "Generalissimo" is just a handle. My previous handle, "horrido", was surely objectionable as well, since it's a play on the battle cry associated with the WWII German Luftwaffe ( Hor

Re: [Pharo-users] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

ing-list not an open bar to talk about any topics. > > We will create a Pharo-chat mailing-list. > And all these discussions should be moved there. > > Stef > > > Le 18/1/15 01:00, horrido a écrit : >> Thanks for this link! I always thought there was something not ri

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

cy, ... arguments to market the adoption of > Smalltalk and Pharo. > > You are not being attacked at all. You are simply being advised of > consequences to certain choices. > > Choose. Choose well. For the consequences good or bad, are yours. > > Jimmie > > O

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

II buff, was not familiar with horrido. It meant > nothing to me and I didn't look. It was merely a label you were using to > represent yourself. > > That is one of the interesting things about this list is it is very > global in representation. So it is very difficult to know nam

Re: [Pharo-users] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

Alain Rastoul-2 wrote > "If we can't convince these organizations that they'll be much more > productive using Smalltalk over Java, and save tons of money /in the long > run/, then how can we ever advance our agenda to the rest of the world??" > > I do not see productivity as very important. It is

[Pharo-users] Essays

We have a couple of essays published at Smalltalk renaissance . *We need more.* This is our opportunity to answer the questions, concerns, and criticisms of non-Smalltalk developers, an opportunity afforded by the SRP, which is drawin

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

Marcus Denker-4 wrote >> On 18 Jan 2015, at 13:16, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> >> This is a fine line to tread. I have several problems with >> self-censorship: >> >> First of all, "Generalissimo" is just a handle. My

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

Marcus Denker-4 wrote >> On 18 Jan 2015, at 19:37, Sebastian Sastre < > sebastian@ > > wrote: >> >> Please don’t take it as self-censorship but as strategy on communication. >> >> It’s fine that you have a taste for history but you need to calculate the >> way you make rapport (or not) with you

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

There is much to respond to here. First of all, I was NOT putting down ESUG or Smalltalk Foundation. I was simply pointing out that, despite their promotional efforts, Smalltalk has slipped out of the public consciousness, as evidenced by language rankings and coverage in the IT press, as well as t

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

Well, I've already apologized. You are right, I was oblivious to extra-cultural thinking, to which I plead ignorance. Now that I know better, I shall do better. Please remember, I'm a volunteer. I stepped up when no one else would. Am I the best man for the job? Probably not, *but who is??* I wil

[Pharo-users] Mea Culpa

Okay, so far, I've made two mistakes. First was my lack of sensitivity to cultural differences around the world. Now that I know better, I shall do better. Second was my failure to distinguish between different subgroups within the Pharo forum. The reason I chose Pharo forum to discuss my campaign

Re: [Pharo-users] Mea Culpa

hernanmd wrote >> It is unfortunate that I must use the Pharo forum for this purpose. The >> Smalltalk community is so terribly fragmented that there is no universal >> Smalltalk forum to address, at least, none that is actually *inhabited*. >> Without the ability to address the largest number of S

[Pharo-users] The Smalltalk Revolution is still going!

My article "The Smalltalk Revolution" is a frickin' Energizer Bunny! It just keeps going and going and going... At this moment, it has surpassed 15K views and 8.1K reads. Instead of petering out, *as it appeared to be doing earlier this week*, it seems to be growing again! /I wonder what's going o

Re: [Pharo-users] Essays

our essays and make you look good! You know where to send your submissions. Thanks. horrido wrote > We have a couple of essays published at > Smalltalk renaissance > <https://smalltalkrenaissance.wordpress.com/category/essays/> > . * > We need more. * > > Th

Re: [Pharo-users] Mea Culpa

Any language that has a significant user base, ie, a large number of applications, will experience resistance to change. The only way to avoid this is for people NOT to use the language. The fear of popularization will condemn a language to permanent niche status. That's fine, if that's what the u

Re: [Pharo-users] Popular

So let me see if I understand this... Pharo is not ready for prime time because it's still gestating? At what point will Pharo be ready for everyone in the world to use? Five years from now? Ten years? And when it is ready for the world to use, can we be sure that the world will use it? "If you b

Re: [Pharo-users] Mea Culpa

In fact, I did look for previous attempts to "market" Smalltalk. I found nothing. All previous attempts to popularize Smalltalk have been grassroots, ie, using word of mouth; giving talks and seminars at conferences and local user groups; a scattered (and somewhat chaotic) collection of blogs and w

Re: [Pharo-users] Mea Culpa

Offray wrote > I think that SRP has a "flaw" of showing itself as some kind of way to > save Smalltalk of its unpopular destiny, not being on top 10 of TIOBE or > being a niche platform, but for me that's not a cruel destiny and if it > were that's not the best way to fight against it, but by bu

[Pharo-users] The SRP Has Moved

By now, every Smalltalker and his dog have heard about the Smalltalk Renaissance Program. So it is no longer necessary to stay in the Pharo forum. I have moved all future SRP-related discussions to the /English/ forum at forum.world.st. I ask everyone who is even remotely interested in the campaig

[Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

I submitted an article at Reddit called "Stop Thinking in Terms of Files." Some guy with the handle "audioen" wrote the following comment: We have heard that smalltalk appears to use model similar to a LISP machine of yore in that the programming environment = the OS = the runtime environment. Onc

Re: [Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

"An image is essentially a self-contained operating system that manages all the code for you, thanks to an easy-to-use IDE." I'm not trying to be pedantic. I'm using general parlance to convey an idea, and the idea is essentially correct. And I'm hardly alone. GemTalk's own "Pharo, the collaborAct

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I didn't say I cannot answer the questions; I said I may not answer them /optimally/. After all, *I haven't used Smalltalk in a long while*, and I was never an expert to begin with. I'm certainly not up with the latest developments in Pharo. (For example, I didn't know that Pharo no longer has file

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And for the record, a number of long-time Smalltalkers have expressed their appreciation for the work I've done. One of them (a 25-year Smalltalk veteran!!!) said to me: "You may think the job was thankless, but I think you did a great job." I really, truly appreciate his accolade. Hey, I get it.

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I don't understand people today. They seem so brittle and inflexible, unwilling to open their minds and learn. When I was fresh out of university, my only programming experience was with FORTRAN on mainframes. My first job was on the newest technology of the day: DEC PDP-11

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But these are implementation details...implementation of the base system. /From the perspective of a programmer writing an application/, none of this matters. As I said earlier, the only reason why Smalltalk has to deal with files at all is because we live in a file-based culture. And the reason o

Re: [Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

ulture. And the reason our culture > is so entrenched with files is because we are too heavily invested in > them, > and we aren't going to budge. *Files are about as low a storage > abstraction > as you can get*, and they pre-date even Unix. Yes, files belong in the > Ston

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