To be honest, I didn't know you could do live coding in Python, Ruby, C/C++. I had only ever heard of "hot swapping" in Java.
At any rate, I'd be surprised if live coding in these languages was as easy and convenient as in Pharo/Smalltalk. Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote > Yes, you are right: Pharo/Smalltalk is more or less the same as > Ruby/Python/C/C++ in terms of power & flexibility of OOP and in live > coding. > > Come on. > >> On 6 Oct 2017, at 23:18, Dimitris Chloupis < > kilon.alios@ > > wrote: >> >> Wise not to mention Ruby and Python and Pick the worst of the worst in >> OOP. Because frankly the competition for Pharo against those two >> behemoths can be quite brutal in the flexibility and power of OOP. >> >> And no , these language can do live coding with ease. I know because I >> currently code live coding style with Python for an app I am making. Sure >> it wont provide you with a live system out of the box, but put in 10 >> lines of code and you already ready to go with hardcore live coding. At >> least Python , Ruby being practically a rip off of Smalltalk language may >> need even less. >> >> iPython which by the way is by far the most popular Python tool is the >> real deal, a full blow live coding enviroment. >> >> To my suprise its not even hard to do live coding with C/C++ including >> using image format. To my shock live coding is actually supported by both >> the OS and the hardware. Hardware has its own exception system , OS has >> an image flie format called "memory mapped files" used for DLLs and a lot >> of essential functionality. >> >> For some weird reason however its well hidden and not that much utilised >> by coders. They really love long compile times, dont ask me why. >> >> But yeah C++ even though it has come a long way with its template system, >> its still the king of ugly. That sytax, oh the horrors of that >> syntax..... yiaks !!! >> >> I am so enternal greatful that Pharo introduced me to live coding and >> opened my eyes to universe of fun and productivity. I cannot imagine >> coding an other way ever again. >> >> I really hope that we take this further though. >> >> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 1:31 PM horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk >> <https://medium.com/smalltalk-talk/behold-pharo-the-modern-smalltalk-38e132c46053> >> >> If you would like to suggest some edits, I'm all ears. Anything to >> improve >> the impact of the article. >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >> -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
