Let us know when Pharo-chat is ready. I'll move everything there.

Thanks.


stepharo wrote
> Hello people
> 
> do you realize that you are poluting the ****PHARO**** users mailing-list?
> What is the message we sent to users that are happily hacking in Pharo.
> The user mailing-list not an open bar to talk about any topics.
> 
> We will create a Pharo-chat mailing-list.
> And all these discussions should be moved there.
> 
> Stef
> 
> 
> Le 18/1/15 01:00, horrido a écrit :
>> Thanks for this link! I always thought there was something not right
>> about
>> Angular, and this article (and its links) clearly lay out the issue.
>>
>> Obviously, I think Amber is a better solution.
>>
>> The one big takeaway from these anti-Angular articles, I think, is
>> this...
>>
>> /IT management often make stupid choices based on fad, fashion, and
>> laziness./ They can't be bothered to do the actual research and
>> investigation to see which technology best fits their goals and
>> objectives.
>> Presumably, one of their chief objectives is to improve productivity and
>> save on (labour) costs. How can you meet this objective without at least
>> trying one of the premier productivity technologies on the market,
>> namely,
>> Smalltalk? How can you not have heard the oft-repeated claims about
>> Smalltalk's superlative productivity over the years? They've only been
>> made
>> year after year since the 1980s.
>>
>> All that is required is to run a pilot Smalltalk program. This will
>> definitively answer the question: How much more productive can you be in
>> developing software?
>>
>> Generalissimo
>>
>>
>> 

> sebastian@

>  wrote
>>>> On Jan 17, 2015, at 3:18 PM, kilon alios <
>>> kilon.alios@
>>> > wrote:
>>>> So overall I doubt that Smalltalk will ever be a big hit on JVM or
>>>> Javascript.
>>> Everybody is a looser if you frame it in that perspective.
>>>
>>> That game is not interesting, nor strategy wise.
>>>
>>> An interesting alternative is to create the opportunity for people to
>>> take
>>> their bite on the Java market and if they can do it, as small as it
>>> might
>>> be that’s all that really counts.
>>>
>>> James is already one of those someone will make it when the demand is
>>> felt.
>>>
>>> If Redline Smalltalk saves significant costs to a company that has
>>> invested heavy in something JVM-ish then you will have their attention.
>>>
>>> Productivity is one of the strongest opportunities for Smalltalk unless
>>> our tools UI/UX sucks so bad it get deteriorated or the world catches
>>> up.
>>>
>>> And we have control over the UI/UX we provide.
>>>
>>> Have you ever thought that AngularJS is essentially a Google strategy to
>>> bite Java’s market
>>> <http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2015/01/the_problem_wit.html>?
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>





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