Stephen P. Becker wrote:
> Grant Goodyear wrote:
>
>>Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>
>>>My point is that that's a nasty QA bug that's relying upon input from
>>>Stuart to be fixed. Whilst that one's still alive, I'm not going to go
>>>around filing more similar "breaks non-interactively" bugs because th
On Monday 27 February 2006 16:12, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 20:54 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > Whilst that one's still alive, I'm not going to go
> > around filing more similar "breaks non-interactively" bugs because the
> > discussion will just get repeated over and over.
On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:12:22 +
Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 20:54 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > My point is that that's a nasty QA bug that's relying upon input
> > from Stuart to be fixed.
>
> I'm afraid you've been mis-informed. The PHP herd has pr
Mike Myers posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Sun,
26 Feb 2006 17:05:57 -0600:
> Do you know if there's a way or going to be a way to handle the split
> ebuilds so that reemerging or unemerging a split ebuild will reemerge or
> unemerge the corresponding packages? It seems like th
On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:49:23 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
| May I ask how is that related to webapp-config?
|
It is related to Stuart, and hence utterly relevant to the conversation.
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:04:52 -0600 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| > My point is that that's a nasty QA bug that's relying upon input
| > from Stuart to be fixed. Whilst that one's still alive, I'm not
| > going to go around filing more similar "breaks non-inter
On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:12:22 + Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| This point is another example of an attempt to enforce an undocumented
| QA policy, which is where I made my input, as the architect of our new
| (and well-received) PHP packages. ... and then the discussion
| deteriora
27.2.2006, 22:18:05, Stephen P. Becker wrote:
> Grant Goodyear wrote:
>> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>> My point is that that's a nasty QA bug that's relying upon input from
>>> Stuart to be fixed. Whilst that one's still alive, I'm not going to go
>>> around filing more similar "breaks non-interacti
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 05:30:27PM +, Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> (Yes, I'm taking that sentence out of context, but the fact that it
> comes up at all says something, to my mind.)
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27.2.2006, 22:33:21, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:49:23 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> |
> | May I ask how is that related to webapp-config?
> |
> It is related to Stuart, and hence utterly relevant to the conversation.
Ah, sure - so the topic is that you have
Stephen P. Becker wrote:
> Grant Goodyear wrote:
>> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>> My point is that that's a nasty QA bug that's relying upon input from
>>> Stuart to be fixed. Whilst that one's still alive, I'm not going to go
>>> around filing more similar "breaks non-interactively" bugs because the
27.2.2006, 22:32:39, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> I quote the official policy:
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2&chap=1
>> Occasionally, ebuilds will have conflicting USE flags for
>> functionality. Checking for them and returning an error is not a
>> viable solutio
On Monday 27 February 2006 18:15, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:47:58 -0600 Lance Albertson
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | > So if the maintainer sticks SANDBOX_DISABLE="1" rm -fr / in global
> | > scope and refuses to move it, QA will have to get council approval
> | > to fix
On Monday 27 February 2006 21:37, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> | You know where bugzilla is. You know how to contact any of the
> | webapp-config maintainers via email, or via IRC. We're ready to
> | listen to your input, and to work with you (or anyone else) on fixing
> | any genuine problems that w
On Monday 27 February 2006 22:34, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Yup. It's a huge policy violation being passed off as a feature. See
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2&chap=
>1 in the paragraph starting "Occasionally, ebuilds will have conflicting
> USE flags for functi
On Monday 27 February 2006 19:19, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:05:58 -0600 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> | Of course, that leaves the question of who decides on the severity of
> | a QA violation?
>
> All this talk of severity, and no talk of "ease of detection"
Hi all,
at FOSDEM we had a nice discussion about languages, translations etc.
Having people from the US (wolf31o2) who never have problems and people
from Japan (usata) who always have problems with encodings /
charsets / ... was quite interesting.
During that discussion we realized that having u
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You will act as the Gentoo guru for the IT department and are expected
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On Tuesday 28 February 2006 11:58, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> During that discussion we realized that having utf-8 not enabled by
> default and no utf8 fonts available by default causes lots of
> recompilation and reconfiguration.
At the same time, you'll probably hear people bitching about UTF-8 being
27.2.2006, 22:32:39, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> I quote the official policy:
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2&chap=1
>> Occasionally, ebuilds will have conflicting USE flags for
>> functionality. Checking for them and returning an error is not a
>> viable solutio
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 11:18 +, George Prowse wrote:
> Would we be required to fix the mess left by the previous
> sys-admin? :p
Yes :P
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On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 12:32 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 February 2006 11:58, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > During that discussion we realized that having utf-8 not enabled by
> > default and no utf8 fonts available by default causes lots of
> > recompilation and reconfigurati
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 12:47, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> It is still optional, just enabled by default :-)
Would be enough to be criticized probably, mainly by english-speaking users
that doesn't care of extended characters.
Although, this would follow also the direction of both Apple and Microso
* Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06/02/28 11:58 +0100]:
> Enabling the unicode useflag in the profiles should help our
> international users and should not cause any problems. Are there any
> known bugs / problems this would trigger? Any reasons against that?
It is enabled by default. At leas
You still haven't posted posted a *single example* of webapp-config
brokeness. You, I'd say you should either back up claims about "all the ways
in which webapp-config is broken" or apologize to the concerned developers
for false claims.
Still waiting.
OK, here is one. It seems that webapp-co
28.2.2006, 13:54:36, Stephen P. Becker wrote:
>> You still haven't posted posted a *single example* of webapp-config
>> brokeness. You, I'd say you should either back up claims about "all the ways
>> in which webapp-config is broken" or apologize to the concerned developers
>> for false claims.
>
I'm not sure how to correctly handle bug #87542.
It is about a dev-tex package that doesn't have a license (ctan doesn't
state one, and no license can be found anywhere else).
By definition I have to assume that it is proprietary.
But an eager bug reporter has gotten a statement from the two autho
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 13:50 +0100, Lars Weiler wrote:
> * Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06/02/28 11:58 +0100]:
> > Enabling the unicode useflag in the profiles should help our
> > international users and should not cause any problems. Are there any
> > known bugs / problems this would trigger?
webapp-config should be updated to handle such situation more gracefully, so
why don't you file a bug about this? Is that all you have wrt "all the ways
in which webapp-config is broken"? If so, that's not really much of a
justification of the broad claim ciaranm has made as a QA project member.
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 14:46, Martin Ehmsen wrote:
> Should I require a public statement from the authors, like an update
> version on ctan that states the license, or is it enough to refer to the
> bug report? (ie., is it enough that the reporter says that the author
> said the package is pub
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 06:47, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 12:32 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> > On Tuesday 28 February 2006 11:58, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > > During that discussion we realized that having utf-8 not enabled by
> > > default and no utf8 fonts availab
On 2/28/06, Stephen P. Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, here is one. It seems that webapp-config silently assumes your
> webserver is apache by default. If a user uses lighttpd for example,
> this is totally incorrect.
>
> Now, this doesn't cause webapp-config to fail to emerge, but the fi
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 04:49, Jakub Moc wrote:
> No, that's not a policy document, ebuild policy is documented here:
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?style=printable&;
>part=3&chap=1
so what, you want us to duplicate everything in one document and place it in
the
28.2.2006, 15:00:49, Stephen P. Becker wrote:
>> What kind of non-interactivity? What's this universal non-interactivity
>> blurb of yours and ciaranm's about? There's no such thing when it comes to
>> configuration. If you want automated "configuration", then please use
>> Windows and stop moani
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:49:13 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| No, that's not a policy document, ebuild policy is documented here:
|
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?style=printable&part=3&chap=1
No, the whole thing is policy.
| Moreover, the cited howto is w
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:21:14 + "Stuart Herbert"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| We've committed a fix for this problem upstream. We'll probably roll
| out w-c 1.5.11 at the weekend. That'll give us suitable time to test
| this, and to incorporate the QA issues from Ciaran that we're still
| wait
I can't say if there are any problems, as I didn't received
a bug for a long time. The only thing that's nasty: we
don't have any good utf8-fonts for the console.
I think that's acceptable.
The only issue related to that we really have is this bug, which is
annoying but not fatal:
http://bu
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:34:49 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| Once that is supported, I'm also sure that those people involved will
| be more than happy to fix their ebuilds to use those features. I do
| agree with them though that the distribution should not be held back
| by miss
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:21:23 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| > http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/sys-apps/bootstrap
| >_cmds/bootstrap_cmds-44.ebuild?rev=1.1&content-type=text/plain
|
| Probably because although it isn't a good ebuild it still works and
| does
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:38:17 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| You still haven't posted posted a *single example* of webapp-config
| brokeness. You, I'd say you should either back up claims about "all
| the ways in which webapp-config is broken" or apologize to the
| concerned developers
On 2/28/06, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm still not convinced that it's worth my while
*You* chose to mention webapp-config in this thread. Stop making
excuses. Make good on your claims.
Put up, or shut up.
Best regards,
Stu
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On Tuesday 28 February 2006 15:48, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:21:23 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Huh? It violates the sandbox even if you do 'emerge sync' and never
> touch the ebuild. Look at the frickin' mkdir!
Hmm. Didn't realise that the sandbox is more res
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 15:00, Stephen P. Becker wrote:
> Basically, I really don't see why webapp-config can't have some logic
> built in which makes it smart enough to figure out which webserver
> somebody is using.
Please remember that the apache group is just another name for httpd
group
28.2.2006, 15:39:40, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:49:13 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | No, that's not a policy document, ebuild policy is documented here:
> |
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?style=printable&part=3&chap=1
> No, the w
Paul de Vrieze wrote:
On Sunday 26 February 2006 22:29, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 02:19:40PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Side note: if the packages in question are fetch restricted, you're
screwed, and will not be able to add them to the tree.
Actually, there is a so
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 14:52 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:38:17 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | You still haven't posted posted a *single example* of webapp-config
> | brokeness. You, I'd say you should either back up claims about "all
> | the ways in which w
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 15:52, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Yes, it's an utterly trivial problem, but it is a QA violation. Getting
> a complete list is something that takes a heck of a lot longer, and I
> have yet to be convinced that my time would not be better spent
> elsewhere.
Where is a cod
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 02:52:46PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Yes, it's an utterly trivial problem, but it is a QA violation. Getting
> a complete list is something that takes a heck of a lot longer, and I
> have yet to be convinced that my time would not be better spent
> elsewhere.
So let m
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 15:47, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:34:49 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> | Once that is supported, I'm also sure that those people involved will
> | be more than happy to fix their ebuilds to use those features. I do
> | agree wi
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:08:05 +0100
Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When and where has been the following change discussed and who
> approved that?
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xml/htdocs/proj/en/devrel/handbook/hb-guide-ebuild.xml?r1=1.25&r2=1.26&root=gentoo
According to
28.2.2006, 16:12:32, Patrick Lauer wrote:
>> This is a whitespace / coding style breakage. The correct format should
>> be:
>>
>> webapp_read_config() {
>>
>> Yes, it's an utterly trivial problem, but it is a QA violation. Getting
>> a complete list is something that takes a heck of a lot l
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 15:16, Marius Mauch wrote:
> Check your mail archives for the old discussions about distfile name
> mangling (short version: a lot of stuff relies on distfile-name ==
> basename(src_uri), also if at all this would only be a long term
> solution due to compat issues invol
A few days ago I added net-im/wildfire to the tree. This is the sucessor to
jive-messenger. The ebuild is diferent and now complays to net-im/jabber-base.
In a week or so I'll remove jive-messenger from the tree.
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28.2.2006, 16:29:07, Stephen Bennett wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:08:05 +0100
> Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> When and where has been the following change discussed and who
>> approved that?
>>
>> http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xml/htdocs/proj/en/devrel/handbook/hb-guide
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:17:20 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| On Tuesday 28 February 2006 15:52, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| > Yes, it's an utterly trivial problem, but it is a QA violation.
| > Getting a complete list is something that takes a heck of a lot
| > longer, and I have yet
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:12:32 +0100 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| Wow. That is ... impressive. After about two days of asking for any
| real bugs you are able to show a trivial syntax issue?
|
| Please stop yelling "it si teh b0rk!" if you can't even list any
| serious issues, and stop
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:26:37 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| If you can't do any better, then please apologize for your conduct
| and false claims and shut up... TIA.
Sure I can do better. But you didn't originally ask for better, you
asked for anything. If better's what you're after:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:08:05 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| 28.2.2006, 15:39:40, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| > On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:49:13 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > wrote:
| > | No, that's not a policy document, ebuild policy is documented
| > | here:
| > |
| >
http://www
On Monday 27 February 2006 11:47, Lance Albertson wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:53:20 -0800 Donnie Berkholz
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > | The maintainer should be the absolute authority over his/her packages,
> > | and only the council should be able to overr
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 10:08, Jakub Moc wrote:
> 28.2.2006, 15:39:40, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:49:13 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > | No, that's not a policy document, ebuild policy is documented here:
> >
> > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbo
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:42:30 +0100
Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Punting every single piece of broken sh*t from the tree requires
> notifying everyone on -dev ml and allowing a period of time before
> it's actually done, so silently changing/stating policies is a very
> broken practice.
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 15:42 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:26:37 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | If you can't do any better, then please apologize for your conduct
> | and false claims and shut up... TIA.
>
> Sure I can do better. But you didn't originally as
28.2.2006, 16:42:46, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:26:37 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | If you can't do any better, then please apologize for your conduct
> | and false claims and shut up... TIA.
> Sure I can do better. But you didn't originally ask for better,
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Jakub Moc schrieb:
| 28.2.2006, 16:29:07, Stephen Bennett wrote:
|>>When and where has been the following change discussed and who
|>>approved that?
|>>
|>>http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xml/htdocs/proj/en/devrel/handbook/hb-guid
Lars Weiler wrote:
> * Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06/02/28 11:58 +0100]:
>> Enabling the unicode useflag in the profiles should help our
>> international users and should not cause any problems. Are there any
>> known bugs / problems this would trigger? Any reasons against that?
>
> It is
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:11:58 +0100 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| Ok, sorry for being dumb :-)
| What exactly is the issue there? I don't see the issue in setting SLOT
| depending on ... uhm ... some variable. Looks kinda logical at first
| glance, but I'm not aware of the issues it cau
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:22:57 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Eh? Seen kernel2.eclass? Going to file a bug about that as well? Seen
| gst/gstreamer eclasses? Going to file QA bugs about them as well? And
| - what's exactly the QA violation there, if you could enlighten us?
You're misun
28.2.2006, 17:24:21, Danny van Dyk wrote:
> Hi Jakub,
> If you don't agree with the contents, why didn't you raise your
> opposition earlier?
I don't feel any need to raise opposition against some unofficial manual,
what would be the point in that? I'm raising my hand against silently
incorpora
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 05:11:58PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Ok, sorry for being dumb :-)
> What exactly is the issue there? I don't see the issue in setting SLOT
> depending on ... uhm ... some variable. Looks kinda logical at first
> glance, but I'm not aware of the issues it causes.
One iss
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Ooh, I'm very much in favor of unicode being enabled by default. It's not like
users would be limited *only* to UTF-8 on their new installs, anyway. I'd love
to see this implemented.
++ for the suggestion. :)
Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> at FO
28.2.2006, 17:35:32, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:11:58 +0100 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | Ok, sorry for being dumb :-)
> | What exactly is the issue there? I don't see the issue in setting SLOT
> | depending on ... uhm ... some variable. Looks kinda logical a
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:35:32PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Ebuilds can't override this either. Read on in the eclass and you'll
> notice that it checks that SLOT hasn't been changed to something sane.
Excepting that you can set WEBAPP_MANUAL_SLOT="yes" and set SLOT to whatever the
hell you
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:00:03 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > PVR includes the revision of an ebuild. This means that if a
| > revbump is made on a webapp package to fix a critical flaw, users
| > will still have the old broken package installed too. This is
| > especially relevant fo
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:02:11 + Renat Lumpau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:35:32PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| > Ebuilds can't override this either. Read on in the eclass and you'll
| > notice that it checks that SLOT hasn't been changed to something
| > sane.
|
|
28.2.2006, 18:09:54, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:00:03 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| >> PVR includes the revision of an ebuild. This means that if a
| >> revbump is made on a webapp package to fix a critical flaw, users
| >> will still have the old broken packag
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:30:24 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| OK, so kernel-2.eclass is abusing the slot as well, go scream on
| kernel devs.
No. kernel-2 installs sources, not an actual package.
| > | Yeah, it checks for that since that's the way the eclass is
| > | designed. You can
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 11:58 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> at FOSDEM we had a nice discussion about languages, translations etc.
> Having people from the US (wolf31o2) who never have problems and people
> from Japan (usata) who always have problems with encodings /
> charsets / ... was
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 05:11:57PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> And it sticks out a nasty ewarn and says that the ebuild is probably
> broken.
Which it _probably_ is. See, this is a numbers game. In most cases, if you use
the webapp eclass, setting SLOT="0" is incorrect. There are some cases in
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:47:33 -0500 solar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I forget where I read it but I thought that unicode lead to overflows
| and was considered a general security risk. I wish I knew where I read
| that but I'm unable to find it.
|
| Any list readers know anything relating to that
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:38:10 +
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> if [ "${IS_UPGRADE}" = "1" ] ; then
> einfo "Removing old version ${REMOVE_PKG}"
>
> emerge -C "${REMOVE_PKG}"
> fi
Uh, what the fuck is that doing in an eclass ?
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28.2.2006, 18:11:57, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:02:11 + Renat Lumpau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:35:32PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| >> Ebuilds can't override this either. Read on in the eclass and you'll
| >> notice that it checks that S
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 17:38 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Sheesh, you'll probably claim that this isn't broken next too:
>
> if [ "${IS_UPGRADE}" = "1" ] ; then
> einfo "Removing old version ${REMOVE_PKG}"
>
> emerge -C "${REMOVE_PKG}"
> fi
Ciaran,
(and this is valid for
On 2/28/06, Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 17:38 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > Sheesh, you'll probably claim that this isn't broken next too:
> >
> > if [ "${IS_UPGRADE}" = "1" ] ; then
> > einfo "Removing old version ${REMOVE_PKG}"
> >
> >
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 06:59:49PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> If you show a wrong code snippet please explain _why_ it is wrong in the
> same email.
Ehm you mean it is not obvious that calling emerge inside an eclass
is utterly wrong ?
--
Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín
Gentoo Developer (A
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:59:49 +0100
Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (and this is valid for all emails to technical lists,)
> please save us some time and many emails by stating what is wrong when
> you show a QA violation.
This is a technical discussion list, and as such it is fair to a
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:59:49 +0100 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| (and this is valid for all emails to technical lists,)
| please save us some time and many emails by stating what is wrong when
| you show a QA violation.
Oh come on. I'm not going to insult the intelligence of people re
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:30:24 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| OK, so kernel-2.eclass is abusing the slot as well, go scream on
| kernel devs.
No. kernel-2 installs sources, not an actual package.
| > | Yeah, it checks for that since that's the way the eclass
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 12:47:33PM -0500, solar wrote:
> I forget where I read it but I thought that unicode lead to overflows
> and was considered a general security risk. I wish I knew where I read
> that but I'm unable to find it.
>
> Any list readers know anything relating to that?
>
It's tru
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 11:39, Jakub Moc wrote:
> 28.2.2006, 17:24:21, Danny van Dyk wrote:
> > If you don't agree with the contents, why didn't you raise your
> > opposition earlier?
>
> I don't feel any need to raise opposition against some unofficial manual,
> what would be the point in that
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 13:00, Jakub Moc wrote:
> 28.2.2006, 18:11:57, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:02:11 + Renat Lumpau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > | On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:35:32PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> | >> Ebuilds can't override this either. Read on
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 18:19 +, Stephen Bennett wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:59:49 +0100
> Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > (and this is valid for all emails to technical lists,)
> > please save us some time and many emails by stating what is wrong when
> > you show a QA violat
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 06:12:57PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Oh come on. I'm not going to insult the intelligence of people reading
> this list by explaining something that frickin' obvious. When it's a
> subtle issue I explain why it's wrong. When it isn't, I try to avoid
> wasting everyone'
28.2.2006, 18:38:10, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Sheesh, you'll probably claim that this isn't broken next too:
> if [ "${IS_UPGRADE}" = "1" ] ; then
> einfo "Removing old version ${REMOVE_PKG}"
> emerge -C "${REMOVE_PKG}"
> fi
No, I won't claim that... I'd rather love to
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:02:10 -0500,
Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>
> >if [ "${IS_UPGRADE}" = "1" ] ; then
> >einfo "Removing old version ${REMOVE_PKG}"
> >
> >emerge -C "${REMOVE_PKG}"
> >fi
> >
> >
> >
> Semantics of the logic aside, c
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:47:33 -0500
solar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I forget where I read it but I thought that unicode lead to overflows
> and was considered a general security risk. I wish I knew where I read
> that but I'm unable to find it.
Well, stuff I could find includes:
http://www.kde
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 08:11:26PM +0100, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:02:10 -0500,
> Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> >
> > >if [ "${IS_UPGRADE}" = "1" ] ; then
> > >einfo "Removing old version ${REMOVE_PKG}"
> > >
>
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 08:11:26PM +0100, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:02:10 -0500,
> Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> >
> > >if [ "${IS_UPGRADE}" = "1" ] ; then
> > >einfo "Removing old version ${REMOVE_PKG}"
> > >
>
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