I bet Mike could retire from the industry if he had a nickel for every time he was asked for/about that. I’ve asked Santa for years…… still waiting. T > On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Chris Schaefer <ch...@solarandwindfx.com> wrote: > > Hey Michael from SMA, any chance we can finally get an 240vac SI here in the > states? > > Christopher > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Harry Mahon <michael.ma...@sma-america.com > <mailto:michael.ma...@sma-america.com>> wrote: > Marco – > > > > I will need to ask for information about the BYD availability. Once those > units have all required listings/certifications and are available in US, they > should be ready to use with SBS. The CANBUS comms to the BMS has already > been vetted, and they are on the SMA Approved battery list already. But I > will get confirmation on the immediate usability. > > > > Best regards – > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > SMA America > Michael Mahon > Technical Trainer, Solar Academy > 6020 West Oaks Boulevard, Suite 300 > > Rocklin, CA 95765 > > U.S.A. > Mobile: +1 916 918 9412 > www.SMA-America.com <http://www.sma-america.com/> > > > Solar Academy: www.SMA-America.com/partners/sma-solar-academy/overview.html > <http://www.sma-america.com/partners/sma-solar-academy/overview.html> > > > Full training schedule: > https://www.sma-america.com/partners/sma-solar-academy/seminars/trainings/training/list.html > > <https://www.sma-america.com/partners/sma-solar-academy/seminars/trainings/training/list.html> > > > > > <image001.jpg> <http://www.facebook.com/pages/SMA-America/140290312717395> > <image002.jpg> <http://twitter.com/SMA_America> <image003.jpg> > <http://www.smainverted.com/> <image004.jpg> > <http://www.linkedin.com/company/364675> <image005.jpg> > <http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL840A5336CAC32332> <image006.png> > <http://smaadvance.com/signup/> > > <image007.jpg> > > > > > > This email and any attachments thereto may contain SMA America, LLC > confidential, privileged and private material for the sole use of the > intended recipient. 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If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and permanently > delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. > Thank you. > > > > From: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org > <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>> On Behalf Of Marco > Mangelsdorf > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:20 PM > > > To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Low voltage DC v. higher voltage DC > > > > Mahalo Mike. > > > > Can you tell us please when the SS will actually be able to integrate the BYD > battery platform in the north American market? > > > > marco > > On Monday, September 17, 2018, Harry Mahon <michael.ma...@sma-america.com > <mailto:michael.ma...@sma-america.com>> wrote: > > Marco and all – yes that is the correct spec sheet for the BYD batteries that > will work with Sunny Boy Storage. > > > > SMA strongly would recommend the Sunny Island for off-grid in general and > certainly whole home backup. See the attached from Home Power April/May > 2011; quad stack of SIs acting as UPS for the home – just charging batteries > when grid is present, powering home with batteries/PV when grid is gone. A > dual split phase cluster is almost 24,000 W continuous (!) capability and can > handle crazy power factor loads with no issues. Built in generator functions > and two relay positions per Sunny Island allow for lots of redundancy and > fail-safe load shedding to be built in. > > > > The Sunny Boy Storage (SBS) is designed to be a grid-tied inverter to allow > higher self consumption of local PV power. Even with the ABU to allow off > grid operation (grid forming on its AC outputs rather than just on the > dedicated 120VAC Secure Power Supply outlet), there can be a several second > delay in the switch from grid power to microgrid as the ABU must signal the > Sunny Boy Storage that it has disconnected from the grid and that it is safe > for the SBS to form a grid on its output terminals. Also be aware that there > is no master-slave configuration ability with the SBS – they will always > assume they are acting independently on their energy meter input information. > > > > Best regards – > > Mike > > > > SMA America > Michael Mahon > Technical Trainer, Solar Academy > 6020 West Oaks Boulevard, Suite 300 > > Rocklin, CA 95765 > > U.S.A. > Mobile: +1 916 918 9412 > www.SMA-America.com <http://www.sma-america.com/> > > > Solar Academy: www.SMA-America.com/partners/sma-solar-academy/overview.html > <http://www.sma-america.com/partners/sma-solar-academy/overview.html> > > > Full training schedule: > https://www.sma-america.com/partners/sma-solar-academy/seminars/trainings/training/list.html > > <https://www.sma-america.com/partners/sma-solar-academy/seminars/trainings/training/list.html> > > > > > <image001.jpg> > <http://www.facebook.com/pages/SMA-America/140290312717395><image002.jpg> > <http://twitter.com/SMA_America> <image003.jpg> <http://www.smainverted.com/> > <image004.jpg> <http://www.linkedin.com/company/364675> <image005.jpg> > <http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL840A5336CAC32332> <image006.png> > <http://smaadvance.com/signup/> > > <image007.jpg> > > > > > > This email and any attachments thereto may contain SMA America, LLC > confidential, privileged and private material for the sole use of the > intended recipient. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or > any attachments thereto) by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and permanently > delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. > Thank you. > > > > From: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org > <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>> On Behalf Of Marco > Mangelsdorf > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:08 PM > To: 'RE-wrenches' <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Low voltage DC v. higher voltage DC > > > > Sabaidee from Vientiane, Lao PDR. > > > > Attached is the spec sheet on the BYD battery in question. > > > > I’ve confirmed with SMA directly that there’s no capability for the Sunny > Storage design (S.S., ABU and battery) to use a generator input. My > apologies for mis-stating earlier that it could accommodate a generator. > > > > As far as grid-tie with batteries, the Holy Grail as far as I’m concerned is > being able to provide whole house back-up and not have to do the old > fashioned and pain in the arse critical load sub-panel. The more choices > that we’re provided, the more better. So I’m pleased that companies like > SMA, Ensync, SolarEdge and others are bringing new equipment and designs to > market to allow for whole house back-up. > > > > marco > > > > From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org > <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] On Behalf Of jay > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 5:00 AM > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Low voltage DC v. higher voltage DC > > > > HI Harry, > > > > The battery is charged from the AC side correct? > > And is the charging algorithm inside the ABU. > > > > If so why couldn’t you use a generator to charge the battery? > > > > jay > > > > peltz power > > > > > > > > On Sep 13, 2018, at 7:10 AM, Harry Mahon <michael.ma...@sma-america.com > <mailto:michael.ma...@sma-america.com>> wrote: > > > > Marco – > > > > The Sunny Boy Storage “Advanced Backup Unit” accessory or ABU will be > discussed at SPI in a couple weeks – first units are being stocked now at our > warehouses in US. The ABU will allow the SBS to be a grid former in case of > utility outage, however there are no plans to have any generator > inputs/controls to allow for battery charging from generat > > And yes, BYD BBox HV 5.12/7.68/10.24 devices will be supported when available > in US (will be this year I understand) > > > > Mike > > > > ----- > > > > The SMA Sunny Storage looks promising. > > It will be able to work with the LGC RESU10 HV battery and, sooner rather > than later I hope, BYD package as well. > > And it will allow for a backup generator tie in. > > Ta-dah! > > marco > > On Thursday, September 13, 2018, Bruce Erickson <bruce at mendocinosolar.com > <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org>> > wrote: > > > Hi Marco, > > > > I partially agree with you. I recently bid Outback, StorEdge, and Pika > > options for a GTBB customer, partly to understand pricing for myself, and > > found OB to be so much more expensive. The customer really wanted a system > > that would be to be able to charge the batteries off a generator in an > > outage, understandably. But the extra thousands in cost for OB ended up > > being prohibitive. Add-on rapid shutdown is a killer. So he’s opting for a > > nice modern high voltage DC system, with optimizers and built-in RSD, but > > when there’s an extended outage, he’ll have to hope the sun comes out right > > after the storm to recharge the batteries, or he’ll end up in the dark > > again, until the grid comes back. Maybe there’s a high voltage inverter > > that allows generator charging, or a third-party battery charger, that I’m > > not aware of. Otherwise high voltage systems are very limited for backup, > > at least in winter storm scenarios. > > > > *Bruce Erickson* > > Mendocino Solar Service > > PO Box 1252 > > Mendocino, CA 95460 > > 707-937-1701 > > 707-937-1741 fax > > bruce at mendocinosolar.com > > <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org> > > > > *Connecting Mendocino County to Solar Since* *1994* > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > <mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org> > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > <http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html> > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm <http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm> > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org <http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/> > > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > <mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org> > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > <http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html> > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm <http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm> > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org <http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/> > > > > > > -- > Chris Schaefer’s > <http://www.solarandwindfx.com/> > Tel/Fax 585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870 > 5115 South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua New York 14424 > www.solarandwindfx.com <http://www.solarandwindfx.com/> ~ E-mail: > ch...@solarandwindfx.com <mailto:ch...@solarandwindfx.com> > > Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said, > "democracy" will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing > to work and give to those who would not." > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org >
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