Jeremy et al, I finally got around to changing the wheelset out to a Phil/Bontrager heavy duty wheelset<http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/7193475208/in/photostream>I have. Don't use it very much, so it wasn't the first thing I thought of. Thanks for the suggestions to try that approach!
Anyway, Phil w/ the same Mavic skewers led to zero slippage. I rode the same route (although a bit slower due to a headache) as last week. I purposely left the skewer a bit looser than I was using it on the other wheelset (Dura Ace converted to 135 spacing). Not a problem at all! Soooooo, some combination of the DA wheelset with the bike is leading to wheel slippage. I'm gong to get the dish checked out as suggested, maybe that is it? I noticed the DA clamping surface isn't fully flat. The edges are beveled so there's not as much contact (why?). There's maybe only 50-75% the contact surface that the Phil hubs have. Possibly part of the problem. Buuuuuut, I have the same hubs on my other Riv w/ horizontal drop outs (DA skewers) and those never slip. Side note: This problem has been progressive. The DA wheelset is probably three or four years old. No problems with my old wheelset, and problems with the DA one seems to have come on slowly. An occasional need to recenter here or there, but not several times during a ride like it is now. So I'm currently back in love with my bike, but want all my wheels to work. Things are getting curioser and curioser... Thanks again for the info and input on this, I'm really trying to figure it out! On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Jeremy Till <jeremy.t...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is it clear when during your rides that it slips? Just spinning along, > cranking out of the saddle, or spinning up a steep climb? I fear it may > just be that your combination of horizontal dropouts, QR's, low gears, and > steep California climbs that just might be too much for QR's. My success > with QR's and horizontals is limited to road bikes with fixed gear > drivetrains or compact double derailleur setups, which lack super-low > stump-pulling gears. > > Have you considered converting the hub to a bolt-on (solid) axle? It > might be the cheapest and simplest solution here. Just have to carry a > 15mm box wrench in your saddle bag. > > > On Saturday, May 12, 2012 10:28:28 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> That's actually my plan for tomorrow. If it holds, then something's wrong >> w/ the wheel. If it slips, the bike (or possibly the second wheel as >> well!). I'll report back as I know you all are on the edge of your seats in >> anticipation! >> >> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM, rob markwardt <robmar...@hotmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Have you tried a different wheel? >>> >>> On May 12, 8:37 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > That's an option. I've wanted Nano-clearance for a wile now... :-) But >>> > aren't Atlantii blue? >>> > >>> > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com> >>> **wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > I think a new Atlantis would solve your dilemma.... think of the >>> big fat >>> > > tires you could run ...... even Nanos. Vertical drop outs, check, >>> no more >>> > > problems, check. 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