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Alligators and Pacman... arrrgh, flashback to the 80's!!! On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Both are bevelled? That's just weird or I'm losing it. Can you > photograph it for me? > > And the alligator mouth wants to eat the bigger number, so you are looking > for a >30yo mechanic, not a <30yo mechanic. :) > > > On Sunday, May 13, 2012 11:19:57 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> William, thanks! VERY interesting... kind of a cool feature on Shimao's >> part. They are indeed old DA hubs from the 90's. 7700 series to be exact. I >> converted >> them to 135mm <http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2406321019/>four >> years ago. I just checked and >> *both *locknuts are beveled on the rear, but neither of the front ones >> are. >> >> So, so, so, so... I'm gonna' see if I can find a non-beveled one I may >> have lying around or swap one out from elsewhere and give that a try! >> >> I'll keep looking for the elusive <30 y.o. mechanic. Wish me luck with >> that one! >> >> GREAT advice in this continuing saga! >> >> >> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:28 PM, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> There is no way whatsoever for dish to have anything to do with this >>> problem. It does no harm to have dish checked if you think it might not be >>> right, but dish never caused a hub to slip in the dropouts. >>> >>> The reason the first generation of 130mm spaced dura ace hubs had a >>> beveled locknut was to aid in wedging your 126mm frameset open to take the >>> thing. That beveled locknut was on the left side, though, and we're >>> talking about dura ace cassette hubs from the early 1990s. If you swapped >>> parts around when you converted this dura ace rear hub to 135mm, then you >>> actually might have solved your own problem. Specifically if you moved the >>> left side locknut on an early 90's dura ace hub to the driveside, then that >>> very well might be the cause of your slippage. Have that specifically >>> looked at, preferably by a mechanic older than 30. >>> >>> On Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:57:55 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> Jeremy et al, I finally got around to changing the wheelset out to a >>>> Phil/Bontrager >>>> heavy duty >>>> wheelset<http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/7193475208/in/photostream>I >>>> have. Don't use it very much, so it wasn't the first thing I thought of. >>>> Thanks for the suggestions to try that approach! >>>> >>>> Anyway, Phil w/ the same Mavic skewers led to zero slippage. I rode the >>>> same route (although a bit slower due to a headache) as last week. I >>>> purposely left the skewer a bit looser than I was using it on the other >>>> wheelset (Dura Ace converted to 135 spacing). Not a problem at all! >>>> >>>> Soooooo, some combination of the DA wheelset with the bike is leading >>>> to wheel slippage. I'm gong to get the dish checked out as suggested, maybe >>>> that is it? I noticed the DA clamping surface isn't fully flat. The edges >>>> are beveled so there's not as much contact (why?). There's maybe only >>>> 50-75% the contact surface that the Phil hubs have. Possibly part of the >>>> problem. Buuuuuut, I have the same hubs on my other Riv w/ horizontal drop >>>> outs (DA skewers) and those never slip. >>>> >>>> Side note: This problem has been progressive. The DA wheelset is >>>> probably three or four years old. No problems with my old wheelset, and >>>> problems with the DA one seems to have come on slowly. An occasional need >>>> to recenter here or there, but not several times during a ride like it is >>>> now. >>>> >>>> So I'm currently back in love with my bike, but want all my wheels to >>>> work. Things are getting curioser and curioser... >>>> >>>> Thanks again for the info and input on this, I'm really trying to >>>> figure it out! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Jeremy Till <jeremy.t...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is it clear when during your rides that it slips? Just spinning >>>>> along, cranking out of the saddle, or spinning up a steep climb? I fear it >>>>> may just be that your combination of horizontal dropouts, QR's, low gears, >>>>> and steep California climbs that just might be too much for QR's. My >>>>> success with QR's and horizontals is limited to road bikes with fixed gear >>>>> drivetrains or compact double derailleur setups, which lack super-low >>>>> stump-pulling gears. >>>>> >>>>> Have you considered converting the hub to a bolt-on (solid) axle? It >>>>> might be the cheapest and simplest solution here. Just have to carry a >>>>> 15mm box wrench in your saddle bag. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, May 12, 2012 10:28:28 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> That's actually my plan for tomorrow. If it holds, then something's >>>>>> wrong w/ the wheel. If it slips, the bike (or possibly the second wheel >>>>>> as >>>>>> well!). I'll report back as I know you all are on the edge of your seats >>>>>> in >>>>>> anticipation! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM, rob markwardt < >>>>>> robmar...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you tried a different wheel? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 12, 8:37 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> > That's an option. I've wanted Nano-clearance for a wile now... :-) >>>>>>> But >>>>>>> > aren't Atlantii blue? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Michael_S < >>>>>>> mikeybi...@rocketmail.com>**wro****te: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > I think a new Atlantis would solve your dilemma.... think of >>>>>>> the big fat >>>>>>> > > tires you could run ...... even Nanos. Vertical drop outs, >>>>>>> check, no more >>>>>>> > > problems, check. 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