Hey, that's me! :-) And what you mention is basically what many people have said, so I just can't figure it out. I mean, it really should just dig in and clamp. I'm cranking it down so hard on the QR I can barely undo it with my hands and need to use a screwdriver as a lever. Trust me, it's tight. But then still slips. I'm gonna' drop by my LBS, but I don't have much hope. They probably will tell me I have to buy a new Cervelo or something.
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:38 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > David!! > > My brother, Peter, who has a huge amount of experience wrenching on > all sorts of bikes old and new, says that in his experience, with > slick chrome dropouts, older Campy up through C-Record, or Suntour QRs > with pronounced serrations have worked for him every time; and he's > far bigger than I at 6'2" and 200 lb+. He opines that slightly > mis-aligned dropouts would not prevent a good QR from clamping tightly > enough to prevent slippage. > > Or perhaps you just generate insane amounts of torque? > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:01 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > It has horizontal, not rear-facing track ends. I don't know if those tugs > > will work, but maybe. It says in bold that they're for rear-facing drop > > outs... > > > > The name is David, or at least that is what I tell people on the > internet. > > You can see my signature line if you scroll down (included a marvelous > quote > > from Mr. Willard Romney). But surely you know the name of the guy that's > > been on here and the ibob list with you for the past 10 years and has > > bought/sold/traded/given away things from/to/with you on several > occasions > > over that decade :-) > > > > The axle is definitely about 1-2mm behind the drop out. That's the first > > thing I check, hoping that was the cause and source for a simple fix. No > > such luck. > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I don't know what sort of bike Cyclotourist has, but if by > >> "horizontal" dropouts he means the usual forward-facing road dropouts, > >> these won't work -- they are designed for "track ends." > >> > >> I am very puzzled by your (Cyclotourist -- what's your real name?) > >> slipping problem: I've had no problems with even chromed horizontals > >> and decent, internal cam, all-steel QRs. > >> > >> Are you *sure* that the axle is not coyly peeping out beyond the > >> outward-facing dropout surface? I've had this happen, and it only > >> requires a mm or so of excess length to cause the problem. > >> > >> I can't see alignment being a real issue -- squeeze that QR down and > >> it should hold the wheel in place. > >> > >> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Eric Daume <ericda...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > Worst case, you can always use a chaintug. Something like this: > >> > > >> > http://surlybikes.com/parts/tuggnut > >> > > >> > I always end up using these with track ends, although I've never > needed > >> > them > >> > on my Crosscheck > >> > > >> > Eric Daume > >> > Dublin, OH > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com > > > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> OK, I finally got around to riding today... and no good news to > share. > >> >> I > >> >> put on the heavy-duty old-skool Mavic QR that I have. All steel so > >> >> that's > >> >> not a concern. Shifted exactly the same as the previous two XT > skewers. > >> >> Bummed to say the least. Next step is take it to my LBS for a dropout > >> >> alignment and wheel dish checks (both suggested here). > >> >> Wish me luck, and feel free to keep brainstorming this! > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:54 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com > > > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Enclosed Shimano type. I always thought that too, but someone else > >> >>> mentioned Salsa working great, and the Flip offs are exposed... > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 10:14 PM, lungimsam <john11.2...@gmail.com> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> What kind of QR do you use - exposed cam or enclosed cam? The > former > >> >>>> cannot be used with horizontal drop outs because it can't get tight > >> >>>> enough. > >> >>>> Read all about it here: > >> >>>> http://sheldonbrown.com/skewers.html > >> >>>> > >> >>>> -- > >> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> >>>> To post to this group, send email to > >> >>>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> >>>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> Cheers, > >> >>> David > >> >>> Redlands, CA > >> >>> > >> >>> ** > >> >>> “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an > >> >>> America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. 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