It has horizontal, not rear-facing track ends. I don't know if those tugs will work, but maybe. It says in bold that they're for rear-facing drop outs...
The name is David, or at least that is what I tell people on the internet. You can see my signature line if you scroll down (included a marvelous quote from Mr. Willard Romney). But surely you know the name of the guy that's been on here and the ibob list with you for the past 10 years and has bought/sold/traded/given away things from/to/with you on several occasions over that decade :-) The axle is definitely about 1-2mm behind the drop out. That's the first thing I check, hoping that was the cause and source for a simple fix. No such luck. On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know what sort of bike Cyclotourist has, but if by > "horizontal" dropouts he means the usual forward-facing road dropouts, > these won't work -- they are designed for "track ends." > > I am very puzzled by your (Cyclotourist -- what's your real name?) > slipping problem: I've had no problems with even chromed horizontals > and decent, internal cam, all-steel QRs. > > Are you *sure* that the axle is not coyly peeping out beyond the > outward-facing dropout surface? I've had this happen, and it only > requires a mm or so of excess length to cause the problem. > > I can't see alignment being a real issue -- squeeze that QR down and > it should hold the wheel in place. > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Eric Daume <ericda...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Worst case, you can always use a chaintug. Something like this: > > > > http://surlybikes.com/parts/tuggnut > > > > I always end up using these with track ends, although I've never needed > them > > on my Crosscheck > > > > Eric Daume > > Dublin, OH > > > > > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> OK, I finally got around to riding today... and no good news to share. I > >> put on the heavy-duty old-skool Mavic QR that I have. All steel so > that's > >> not a concern. Shifted exactly the same as the previous two XT skewers. > >> Bummed to say the least. Next step is take it to my LBS for a dropout > >> alignment and wheel dish checks (both suggested here). > >> Wish me luck, and feel free to keep brainstorming this! > >> > >> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:54 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Enclosed Shimano type. I always thought that too, but someone else > >>> mentioned Salsa working great, and the Flip offs are exposed... > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 10:14 PM, lungimsam <john11.2...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> What kind of QR do you use - exposed cam or enclosed cam? The former > >>>> cannot be used with horizontal drop outs because it can't get tight > >>>> enough. > >>>> Read all about it here: > >>>> http://sheldonbrown.com/skewers.html > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Cheers, > >>> David > >>> Redlands, CA > >>> > >>> ** > >>> “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an > >>> America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. 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