David!! My brother, Peter, who has a huge amount of experience wrenching on all sorts of bikes old and new, says that in his experience, with slick chrome dropouts, older Campy up through C-Record, or Suntour QRs with pronounced serrations have worked for him every time; and he's far bigger than I at 6'2" and 200 lb+. He opines that slightly mis-aligned dropouts would not prevent a good QR from clamping tightly enough to prevent slippage.
Or perhaps you just generate insane amounts of torque? On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:01 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > It has horizontal, not rear-facing track ends. I don't know if those tugs > will work, but maybe. It says in bold that they're for rear-facing drop > outs... > > The name is David, or at least that is what I tell people on the internet. > You can see my signature line if you scroll down (included a marvelous quote > from Mr. Willard Romney). But surely you know the name of the guy that's > been on here and the ibob list with you for the past 10 years and has > bought/sold/traded/given away things from/to/with you on several occasions > over that decade :-) > > The axle is definitely about 1-2mm behind the drop out. That's the first > thing I check, hoping that was the cause and source for a simple fix. No > such luck. > > > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I don't know what sort of bike Cyclotourist has, but if by >> "horizontal" dropouts he means the usual forward-facing road dropouts, >> these won't work -- they are designed for "track ends." >> >> I am very puzzled by your (Cyclotourist -- what's your real name?) >> slipping problem: I've had no problems with even chromed horizontals >> and decent, internal cam, all-steel QRs. >> >> Are you *sure* that the axle is not coyly peeping out beyond the >> outward-facing dropout surface? I've had this happen, and it only >> requires a mm or so of excess length to cause the problem. >> >> I can't see alignment being a real issue -- squeeze that QR down and >> it should hold the wheel in place. >> >> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Eric Daume <ericda...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Worst case, you can always use a chaintug. Something like this: >> > >> > http://surlybikes.com/parts/tuggnut >> > >> > I always end up using these with track ends, although I've never needed >> > them >> > on my Crosscheck >> > >> > Eric Daume >> > Dublin, OH >> > >> > >> > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> OK, I finally got around to riding today... and no good news to share. >> >> I >> >> put on the heavy-duty old-skool Mavic QR that I have. All steel so >> >> that's >> >> not a concern. Shifted exactly the same as the previous two XT skewers. >> >> Bummed to say the least. Next step is take it to my LBS for a dropout >> >> alignment and wheel dish checks (both suggested here). >> >> Wish me luck, and feel free to keep brainstorming this! >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:54 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Enclosed Shimano type. I always thought that too, but someone else >> >>> mentioned Salsa working great, and the Flip offs are exposed... >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 10:14 PM, lungimsam <john11.2...@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> What kind of QR do you use - exposed cam or enclosed cam? The former >> >>>> cannot be used with horizontal drop outs because it can't get tight >> >>>> enough. >> >>>> Read all about it here: >> >>>> http://sheldonbrown.com/skewers.html >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> >>>> To post to this group, send email to >> >>>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >>>> For more options, visit this group at >> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> David >> >>> Redlands, CA >> >>> >> >>> ** >> >>> “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an >> >>> America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. 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