I don't know what sort of bike Cyclotourist has, but if by "horizontal" dropouts he means the usual forward-facing road dropouts, these won't work -- they are designed for "track ends."
I am very puzzled by your (Cyclotourist -- what's your real name?) slipping problem: I've had no problems with even chromed horizontals and decent, internal cam, all-steel QRs. Are you *sure* that the axle is not coyly peeping out beyond the outward-facing dropout surface? I've had this happen, and it only requires a mm or so of excess length to cause the problem. I can't see alignment being a real issue -- squeeze that QR down and it should hold the wheel in place. On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Eric Daume <ericda...@gmail.com> wrote: > Worst case, you can always use a chaintug. Something like this: > > http://surlybikes.com/parts/tuggnut > > I always end up using these with track ends, although I've never needed them > on my Crosscheck > > Eric Daume > Dublin, OH > > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> OK, I finally got around to riding today... and no good news to share. I >> put on the heavy-duty old-skool Mavic QR that I have. All steel so that's >> not a concern. Shifted exactly the same as the previous two XT skewers. >> Bummed to say the least. Next step is take it to my LBS for a dropout >> alignment and wheel dish checks (both suggested here). >> Wish me luck, and feel free to keep brainstorming this! >> >> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:54 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Enclosed Shimano type. I always thought that too, but someone else >>> mentioned Salsa working great, and the Flip offs are exposed... >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 10:14 PM, lungimsam <john11.2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> What kind of QR do you use - exposed cam or enclosed cam? The former >>>> cannot be used with horizontal drop outs because it can't get tight >>>> enough. >>>> Read all about it here: >>>> http://sheldonbrown.com/skewers.html >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> David >>> Redlands, CA >>> >>> ** >>> “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an >>> America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the >>> America I love.” >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> David >> Redlands, CA >> >> ** >> “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America >> that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I >> love.” >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- ------------------------- Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html ------------------------- A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.