I don't know what sort of bike Cyclotourist has, but if by
"horizontal" dropouts he means the usual forward-facing road dropouts,
these won't work -- they are designed for "track ends."

I am very puzzled by your (Cyclotourist -- what's your real name?)
slipping problem: I've had no problems with even chromed horizontals
and decent, internal cam, all-steel QRs.

Are you *sure* that the axle is not coyly peeping out beyond the
outward-facing dropout surface? I've had this happen, and it only
requires a mm or so of excess length to cause the problem.

I can't see alignment being a real issue -- squeeze that QR down and
it should hold the wheel in place.

On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Eric Daume <ericda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Worst case, you can always use a chaintug. Something like this:
>
> http://surlybikes.com/parts/tuggnut
>
> I always end up using these with track ends, although I've never needed them
> on my Crosscheck
>
> Eric Daume
> Dublin, OH
>
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> OK, I finally got around to riding today... and no good news to share. I
>> put on the heavy-duty old-skool Mavic QR that I have. All steel so that's
>> not a concern. Shifted exactly the same as the previous two XT skewers.
>> Bummed to say the least. Next step is take it to my LBS for a dropout
>> alignment and wheel dish checks (both suggested here).
>> Wish me luck, and feel free to keep brainstorming this!
>>
>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:54 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Enclosed Shimano type. I always thought that too, but someone else
>>> mentioned Salsa working great, and the Flip offs are exposed...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 10:14 PM, lungimsam <john11.2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What kind of QR do you use - exposed cam or enclosed cam? The former
>>>> cannot be used with horizontal drop outs because it can't get tight
>>>> enough.
>>>> Read all about it here:
>>>> http://sheldonbrown.com/skewers.html
>>>>
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