On Aug 30, 8:04 am, Patrick in VT <swing4...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 27, 11:24 am, grant <grant...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > If you can do it by exercising hard and long, and will power, and calorie > > restriction--- > > and you can maintain that without feeling like the fat-wolf is at the > > door---that's great. > > insulin: if it's really the key, and Taubes is right, i have wonder > why BigPharma isn't all over this. seems like a great idea for a > pill, no?
There are drugs for diabetes, but if the goal is to reduce the insulin load, cutting carbs is the most powerful "pill." No side effects, etc. Imagine, on another hand, that Type 2 diabetics and pre-diabetics were told, "all you gotta do to control your insulin is to limit your carbs." The ramifications are huge...and we aren't equipped to deal with them. General Mills would have a cow, as would Sunkist, Pepperidge Farms, Orowheat, and Pabst. Poor people would have to buy one-pound cans of salmon at the dollar store. Farmers would not like it. Everybody would get sued. The reality is that --- if all this low-carby stuff is truish -- it doesn't work for Somalia, Haiti, or poor America. That doesn't mean that for any person or family who can afford it and doesn't have religious or moral problems with eating meat, that is isn't healthier. As the book points out, and as anybody who tries it will see, your blood scores vastly improve when you eat fat and protein in the near absence of carbohydrates. The weight comes off almost incidentally....although...it also comes off inevitably. > > exercise: there's no need to exercise "long and hard." it's simply a > matter of being active. as another poster mentioned, folks find all > kinds of ways to "exercise" - gardening, taking the dogs for a walk a > few times a day, and generally not sitting on the couch in front of > the television from 6:00-10:00 at night. > > will power: in the same post, you wrote that restricting carbs is not > EASY. this implies that will power is part of the low carb diet > equation too. "Will power" is another topic, but we can all think of lots of difficult tasks in which WP isn't part of the equation. The hard part of cutting carbs is seeing the French toast with blueberries and real maple syrup...and not eating it. If the guy looks and doesn't want to eat it and knows that if he does, he'll regret it...and then eats it anyway....it's easy to say he had a failure of will. BUT if the only argument for "failure of will" is having eaten it...that's what's known in some circles as an explanatory fiction, and in others as "circular logic." > > calorie restriction: if a person is obese, that person needs to cut > calories. again, you tie the term "undereating" to calorie restriction > which is a complete red herring. eating an appropriate amount of food > and practicing portion control is not undereating. > > If Taubes is working for people, great! But the notion that the only > other way to get there is by grueling exercise, buddha-esque will > power and undereating is ridiculous. It's not just a few lucky people > with good genetics who get to live fit healthy lives and eat carbs. > > Eating for health and eating for weight loss are two entirely > different things - most folks are interested in the latter and less > concerned with the former for obvious reasons. it's frustrating, but > i don't begrudge that. as long as the two aren't confused. > > Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
