I can dig it Scott.....and I have to tell you I have been inspired by your determination. Your willingness to keep at it day after day, especially while enduring the negative and sometimes even smug comments from others. I know what gets me fat and I know when I'm weak. I've been enduring the comments at work for months now and I have had to leave the lunch room at times because I'm having a bad day and I just want to say 'F' it and take that one piece of somebodies birthday cake or join in at the potluck. That's the psychological part that gets to me and it is lonely (sometimes) making choices that others don't get and can't or won't understand. Sometimes I think they want you to stay fat....here try this, just one little bite, it won't hurt you "just do it in moderation, everything in moderation" (love that) but its B.S.......mostly though its been good and I don't crave things too often when I stick to 'my food '. My wife is a real creative cook and is doing this with me and makes me eat my veggies, even the yucky ones. She's definitely not an enabler in a bad way, thank God. My first 24 pounds was with no exercise amazingly and my next goal is to incorporate some cycling because I love it and some weights which I actually did pretty hardcore for nine years in my twenties. As an aside, I managed the 23 mile commute to work in 1 hr and 18 minutes. That's some pretty hardcore traffic jamming for me on my 30+ pound touring bike. It burns calories but its not why I ride. I like getting somewhere under my own power and I like the way it makes me feel when I ride. What I am eating and what I am not eating is what has been making the biggest difference.
On Aug 26, 10:25 pm, "S.Cutshall" <clotht...@gmail.com> wrote: > That's the rub & crux right there in the World of The Fat Person--- > > 99.8% of all advice, suggestions, How-To's, solutions and False Hope > come from -either- The Thin or Slightly Pudgified. > > I prefer my knowledge and/or advice to come from the inhabitants of > the trenches. And there aren't many... so I had to go mostly Solo. > > Solo is lonely but it serves to create focus and hard-fought/won > opinions and solutions. > > -Scott > > On Aug 26, 7:03 pm, charlie <cl_v...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think not.....and this is coming from an exercise junkie with a > > whole foods, half hippie wife and years of trying > > everything....weighing my food, portion control, whole grains, calorie > > counting, tofu, low fat, largely vegetarian at times, extreme exercise > > (do you want me to explain the volume and variety) nothing has been as > > effective or as easy for me to stay with as what we have been doing > > for the last six months. Compliance is poor because the other methods > > don't work as well without extreme and I mean really extreme measures. > > Its rather annoying to read comments sometimes from folks that > > (presumably) are not battling the problem and I don't mean 20 pounds > > of winter fat I'm talking a lifetime of obesity. Think of it in the > > reverse......picture a super skinny guy who can't put on muscle no > > matter how much he eats and exercises and if he does manage to gain a > > few pounds as soon as he stops, he loses the added muscle and becomes > > the 98 pound weakling again. I would defy anyone to strap on 100, 200 > > maybe as much as 400 pounds on their body and just try to walk up a > > hill.......the heavy people who exercise put out a whole lot more > > effort than any 160 pound man merrily spinning away on his bicycle. > > Sorry guys but this topic is striking a raw nerve with me today > > because I don't think many people really understand what they are > > talking about......from experience. > > > On Aug 26, 2:16 pm, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 17:11 -0400, Eric Daume wrote: > > > > That's the point of the book: this isn't universally accepted. We've > > > > been pushed this viewpoint for 30 years, but where's the great > > > > downsizing of America? One of Taubes main points is that the science > > > > behind low fat/high fiber/calories in/calories out is very, very poor. > > > > Perhaps the problem is really that compliance is very, very poor? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.