On Aug 14, 2011, at 9:03 AM, David Faller wrote:

>  Arguing on the internet, in any form, is often dangerous and always stupid 
> unless all parties are equally informed and open to having their beliefs 
> toppled.

Arguing period, as any ten minutes spent watching a political debate will 
demonstrate.  Most people argue to win rather than to understand.

> Taubes' books are full of "well I'll be damned!" passages, and he can back 
> them up with hard research.  He spends a lot of his writing trying to gently 
> pry loose what I call "belief barnacles", such as "calories in/calories out".

Calories in/out conforms to the laws of thermodynamics and therefore must have 
at least some validity.  If you eat 10,000 carbohydrate calories a day and 
expend 2,000 you will gain weight.  If you eat 10,000 protein calories a day 
and expend 2,000 you will gain weight.  If you eat 10,000 fat calories a day 
and expend 2,000 you will gain weight.  Conversely if you expend 10,000 
calories a day and eat 2,000 you will lose weight, no matter the source of 
those calories.  Bike tourists are well aware of this phenomenon.  

Most people are not in such extreme situations, of course, and their calorie 
in/out differences might be 200 a day more or less.  The Taubesian theories 
might be more applicable there.

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