I completely agree re Riv moving towards bikes being built for riders
of 190lbs and up.  At 165 lbs, I felt my (former) Saluki was just on
the verge of too heavily built, not re the actual weight of it, but of
a slightly thudding ride.  A lighter tubed frame has much more
resilience and "pickup" for me (eg my old superlight 531 roadbike, my
Columbus SL road bike from the 70s etc.  And my new ride built from
light non OS tubing as well.  Perhaps fewer riv models / but like with
Selle Anatomica seats - a light version and a heavy version.  Makes
sense, in the way skis are also rated by weight; you can get the same
shape ski, but with different camber? dependent upon your weight.

On Nov 20, 8:49 am, robert zeidler <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just as an added thought.... He is going too far in the "stout" direction.
>  These things are way overbuilt and as a result, too heavy, or at least
> heaveir than they ought to be.  I know they don't care about that, but at
> the end of a long day, that is when you start to notice the weight.  I used
> think, well, I'll just get 5 lbs lighter and it's a wash, but it doesn't
> work that way for some reason.  My .02, YMMV

On Nov 20, 8:49 am, robert zeidler <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just as an added thought.... He is going too far in the "stout" direction.
>  These things are way overbuilt and as a result, too heavy, or at least
> heaveir than they ought to be.  I know they don't care about that, but at
> the end of a long day, that is when you start to notice the weight.  I used
> think, well, I'll just get 5 lbs lighter and it's a wash, but it doesn't
> work that way for some reason.  My .02, YMMV.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:25 PM, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Wondering if the new Simple One will have a slightly heavier gauge
> > tubing than the old QB. I'd like that but not sure where G is going
> > with the new model. It seems more might buy one if they had a higher
> > load rating. You'd think heavy guys wouldn't want a two speed bike but
> > I loved riding my home made two speed on my work commute and the
> > Simple One dropout design really opens an option for a lower climbing
> > gear on the flip side. I've been holding off buying for a variety of
> > reasons with the above being one of them.  Basically I like the idea
> > of a lugged and nicely made steel frame with a derailleurless drive
> > train but hope the new frame is a little beefier. I think Riv is going
> > in the right direction with more stoutly built frames.
>
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