On Aug 18, 12:01 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote:
> > I guess that comes down to how you define "comfortable."  For many,
> > like my friends and I, a "racing-style" bike is all we need. Since we
> > only do rides under 100 miles, actually closer to 40-60 miles, racing-
> > style bikes with 700x23/25 sized tires is all we need. I ride 700x25
> > pumped up to about 80-90psi and find them really comfortable. I do
> > ride a carbon bike, but we all know frameset material is never a
> > factor in making a bike comfortable..... ;)
>
> Unless you and your friends actually race, why do you need a race
> style bike at all?  If your primary reason to have a bike is to get
> around with the occasional short fun ride, general use wide tire
> comfort bike seems a whole lot more appropriate than a bike designed
> for the sole purpose of getting from point a to point b as fast as
> possible.  Although I do acknowledge that many in your state appear to
> view BMW 3-series as shopping carts,
>
Good question. Around here there are alot of hills. The "belief" that
a lighter bike will climb better is paramount. Further, many riders,
my friends included (but not necessarily me), make very good money, so
buying what the *pros* use is also important because if they can climb
fast using those types of bikes, so can we....Finally, there's also a
preception that fat tires, i.e., anything wider than say 32mm is going
to slow you down. This may not necessarily be the case, but most
people are going to watch Lance, Alberto and Andy and say they ride
fast uphill on skinny tire racing bikes, so can we! Let's not consider
things like fitness, fit (bike) and training. Racers or racing-style
bikes go up hill fast, that's what I got to get!!!

Reality, wide tire comfort bikes are not in, so it is going to be a
hard sell. You can see this with 650b. Many here swear by it and won't
ride anything else. Yet, the general public, my friends included,
would just laugh and consider those bikes for those "old, slow, fat
guys." Of course, many also need to look in the mirror.

As for BMWs, hey, I got one (older 1990 535i, 5spd, 125k miles) and
yes, they are as common as shopping carts. It is sort of like seeing a
Ferrari, Lamborgini or Tesla in the Beverly Hills/Hollywood
area....Good Luck!

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