Does that tempt you to swap out your Platypus frame, Armand?

I ride my Appaloosa on all manner of ill-advised trails ("your bike has a 
basket and you're riding it here?!") so better trail riding sounds 
fantastic.
I'll carry on with my underbiking though, as I always have. The updates 
sound great.

On Tuesday 13 August 2024 at 09:13:20 UTC+9:30 kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:

> FYI I spoke to Grant over the phone today and the new Appaloosa's are 
> indeed slacker. They have a 70 degree head tube angle in order to increase 
> the front-center and wheelbase. Apparently better for trail riding with no 
> downside to paved riding.  
>
> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 11:12:39 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>
>> I personally wish they’d bring back the double top tube. I like the look 
>> of the green one tho, looked killer on the Platy. 
>>
>> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 4:43:28 AM UTC-4 Dan wrote:
>>
>>> It's beautiful. Looks comfy and capable and just the right balance of 
>>> black and silver!
>>>
>>> On the topic of Appaloosas, and entering the realm of pure speculation:
>>> With a slacker head tube angle (using the Atlantis lugs?) and wider tyre 
>>> clearance, the Appaloosa sounds very similar indeed to the previous 
>>> Atlantis.
>>> I wonder if that leaves room for the next Atlantis to shift to something 
>>> different?
>>>
>>> On Sunday 11 August 2024 at 11:31:48 UTC+9:30 trevor....@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_8546.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 7:52:50 PM UTC-6 Dan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not derailing at all! Well done on resisting temptation. I agree with 
>>>>> you that the Hog's Back meets a very similar use case to the Joe: an 
>>>>> all-round, all-road tourer that can do anything and go anywhere, if 
>>>>> slowly. 
>>>>> I was eyeing off a Hog's Back before I picked up the Joe! Would you mind 
>>>>> sharing photos of your bike - I'd love to see it!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday 11 August 2024 at 04:27:12 UTC+9:30 trevor....@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was verrrry tempted to get a green one but having thought 
>>>>>> extensively about it, I think I will keep my Bassi Hog's Back and ride 
>>>>>> that. Aside from the very long rear end, the reach is pretty similar and 
>>>>>> its been hard for me to justify selling a whole bike for less than the 
>>>>>> cost 
>>>>>> of a frame, especially when I have been quite happy with my Bassi. I 
>>>>>> don't 
>>>>>> mean to derail this conversation at all, but I'm happy with myself for 
>>>>>> resisting such a big temptation. One day Rivendell will take my money, 
>>>>>> just 
>>>>>> not this round.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 7:24:58 AM UTC-6 Dan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some great sleuthing and info here!
>>>>>> I’ll add in another one that I’m pretty sure I’m not imagining: the 
>>>>>> chain stays look a tad shorter. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday 10 August 2024 at 22:21:06 UTC+9:30 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I noticed they got down tube shifter bosses with the upcoming ones. 
>>>>>> Kind of surprising on a sturdy bike. 
>>>>>> Here is a picture of my 2016 model sky blue 46cm, a 26” wheel bike, 
>>>>>> my first Riv bike purchase.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 4:16:17 AM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Despite everyone providing fantastic advice regarding my Sam rebuild. 
>>>>>>  I must admit, I am still incredibly interested in replacing the Sam 
>>>>>> with a 
>>>>>> green Joe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding tire clearance specifically…Grant told me this run of Joes 
>>>>>> would now match current Atlantis tire clearances.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> R,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Drew
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 10, 2024, at 6:27 AM, iamkeith <keith...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Watching thread, and curious about the same thing - especially since 
>>>>>> they felt it necessary to get new prototypes. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The geometry chart still shows it having a slightly steeper headtube 
>>>>>> and shorter top tube than the equivalent Atlantis, which suprises me 
>>>>>> every 
>>>>>> time I've ever looked for this info.  (You kind of have to extrapolate, 
>>>>>> because the respective sizes alternate.)  Will's email said they will be 
>>>>>> updating the website eventually/soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've asked this before, but can anyone describe how the various 
>>>>>> versions have evolved over time?  I know the fork legs got stiffer after 
>>>>>> the first batch, and the double top tube was dropped from the larger 
>>>>>> sizes, 
>>>>>> but I'm particularly interested in geometry and tire clearance 
>>>>>> improvements. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have more bikes than I need - especially Rivendells - but still 
>>>>>> always daydream about that n+1.  The Appaloosa is the model that has the 
>>>>>> least overlap to the bikes I already have and -  unlike any Atlantis 
>>>>>> ever - 
>>>>>> comes in a size that would fit me.  If it got longer and slacker, it 
>>>>>> would 
>>>>>> be even better.  
>>>>>>
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