Despite everyone providing fantastic advice regarding my Sam rebuild.  I must admit, I am still incredibly interested in replacing the Sam with a green Joe.

Regarding tire clearance specifically…Grant told me this run of Joes would now match current Atlantis tire clearances.

R,

Drew

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On Aug 10, 2024, at 6:27 AM, iamkeith <keithhar...@gmail.com> wrote:

Watching thread, and curious about the same thing - especially since they felt it necessary to get new prototypes. 

The geometry chart still shows it having a slightly steeper headtube and shorter top tube than the equivalent Atlantis, which suprises me every time I've ever looked for this info.  (You kind of have to extrapolate, because the respective sizes alternate.)  Will's email said they will be updating the website eventually/soon.

I've asked this before, but can anyone describe how the various versions have evolved over time?  I know the fork legs got stiffer after the first batch, and the double top tube was dropped from the larger sizes, but I'm particularly interested in geometry and tire clearance improvements. 

I have more bikes than I need - especially Rivendells - but still always daydream about that n+1.  The Appaloosa is the model that has the least overlap to the bikes I already have and -  unlike any Atlantis ever - comes in a size that would fit me.  If it got longer and slacker, it would be even better.  

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