Armand, fair enough. If you’re going to go to the trouble of changing 
frames, it’d better be for something just right!

AppaLanta: congratulations! Can’t wait to hear your impressions of the 
bike. 

On Saturday 17 August 2024 at 16:05:05 UTC+9:30 AppaLanta wrote:

> I would like to say "Hello" to the forum, as this is my first real post.  
> As of today's presale, I am the expectant owner of my first Riv - a 57 
> Appaloosa in Sergio Green.  I'm looking forward to learning more from all 
> of you, and posting a ride report of the new geometry.  Cheers!
>
> On Thursday, August 15, 2024 at 7:35:40 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Since the pre-sale starts tomorrow, I'd imagine that anyone with 
>> intentions already knows this, but the geometry chart WAS finally updated a 
>> couple of days ago, to show the new, slacker Appaloosa numbers:
>>
>>
>> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/RBW_Bicycle_Geometries_-_August_2024.pdf?v=1723665985
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 14, 2024 at 5:59:29 PM UTC-6 kiziria...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dan, I love the way the Platypus rides, but I've come to prefer the 
>>> function of a full front triangle. I've gotten used to having a custom half 
>>> frame bag with two bottles (+ third!) on my other bikes. I'd like to have 
>>> the same with my Riv. For some reason I don't like the ana purple on the 
>>> Appaloosa as much as I do on my Platypus though! Sergio green seems too 
>>> boring to me. Those lime-olive Appa's would be the winner for me. I 
>>> definitely don't care enough to pull the trigger on this batch, but if 
>>> someone reading this happens to want to trade a 55 Platy for a 54 Appa 
>>> shoot me a DM. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 9:49:36 AM UTC-7 ethan...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Same! When did they stop making them with double top tubes? Do you know 
>>>> if future Atlantis frames will have a double top tube? They look quite 
>>>> nice 
>>>> and sturdy, especially on the larger bikes.
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 12, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Josh C <getjosh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I personally wish they’d bring back the double top tube. I like the 
>>>> look of the green one tho, looked killer on the Platy. 
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 4:43:28 AM UTC-4 Dan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's beautiful. Looks comfy and capable and just the right balance of 
>>>>> black and silver!
>>>>>
>>>>> On the topic of Appaloosas, and entering the realm of pure speculation:
>>>>> With a slacker head tube angle (using the Atlantis lugs?) and wider 
>>>>> tyre clearance, the Appaloosa sounds very similar indeed to the previous 
>>>>> Atlantis.
>>>>> I wonder if that leaves room for the next Atlantis to shift to 
>>>>> something different?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday 11 August 2024 at 11:31:48 UTC+9:30 trevor....@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: IMG_8546.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 7:52:50 PM UTC-6 Dan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not derailing at all! Well done on resisting temptation. I agree 
>>>>>>> with you that the Hog's Back meets a very similar use case to the Joe: 
>>>>>>> an 
>>>>>>> all-round, all-road tourer that can do anything and go anywhere, if 
>>>>>>> slowly. 
>>>>>>> I was eyeing off a Hog's Back before I picked up the Joe! Would you 
>>>>>>> mind 
>>>>>>> sharing photos of your bike - I'd love to see it!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday 11 August 2024 at 04:27:12 UTC+9:30 trevor....@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was verrrry tempted to get a green one but having thought 
>>>>>>>> extensively about it, I think I will keep my Bassi Hog's Back and ride 
>>>>>>>> that. Aside from the very long rear end, the reach is pretty similar 
>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>> its been hard for me to justify selling a whole bike for less than the 
>>>>>>>> cost 
>>>>>>>> of a frame, especially when I have been quite happy with my Bassi. I 
>>>>>>>> don't 
>>>>>>>> mean to derail this conversation at all, but I'm happy with myself for 
>>>>>>>> resisting such a big temptation. One day Rivendell will take my money, 
>>>>>>>> just 
>>>>>>>> not this round.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 7:24:58 AM UTC-6 Dan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some great sleuthing and info here!
>>>>>>>> I’ll add in another one that I’m pretty sure I’m not imagining: the 
>>>>>>>> chain stays look a tad shorter. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday 10 August 2024 at 22:21:06 UTC+9:30 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I noticed they got down tube shifter bosses with the upcoming ones. 
>>>>>>>> Kind of surprising on a sturdy bike. 
>>>>>>>> Here is a picture of my 2016 model sky blue 46cm, a 26” wheel bike, 
>>>>>>>> my first Riv bike purchase.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 4:16:17 AM UTC-7 
>>>>>>>> drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Despite everyone providing fantastic advice regarding my Sam 
>>>>>>>> rebuild.  I must admit, I am still incredibly interested in replacing 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> Sam with a green Joe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regarding tire clearance specifically…Grant told me this run of 
>>>>>>>> Joes would now match current Atlantis tire clearances.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> R,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Drew
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 10, 2024, at 6:27 AM, iamkeith <keith...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Watching thread, and curious about the same thing - especially 
>>>>>>>> since they felt it necessary to get new prototypes. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The geometry chart still shows it having a slightly steeper 
>>>>>>>> headtube and shorter top tube than the equivalent Atlantis, which 
>>>>>>>> suprises 
>>>>>>>> me every time I've ever looked for this info.  (You kind of have to 
>>>>>>>> extrapolate, because the respective sizes alternate.)  Will's email 
>>>>>>>> said 
>>>>>>>> they will be updating the website eventually/soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've asked this before, but can anyone describe how the various 
>>>>>>>> versions have evolved over time?  I know the fork legs got stiffer 
>>>>>>>> after 
>>>>>>>> the first batch, and the double top tube was dropped from the larger 
>>>>>>>> sizes, 
>>>>>>>> but I'm particularly interested in geometry and tire clearance 
>>>>>>>> improvements. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have more bikes than I need - especially Rivendells - but still 
>>>>>>>> always daydream about that n+1.  The Appaloosa is the model that has 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> least overlap to the bikes I already have and -  unlike any Atlantis 
>>>>>>>> ever - 
>>>>>>>> comes in a size that would fit me.  If it got longer and slacker, it 
>>>>>>>> would 
>>>>>>>> be even better.  
>>>>>>>>
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