I was verrrry tempted to get a green one but having thought extensively 
about it, I think I will keep my Bassi Hog's Back and ride that. Aside from 
the very long rear end, the reach is pretty similar and its been hard for 
me to justify selling a whole bike for less than the cost of a frame, 
especially when I have been quite happy with my Bassi. I don't mean to 
derail this conversation at all, but I'm happy with myself for resisting 
such a big temptation. One day Rivendell will take my money, just not this 
round.

On Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 7:24:58 AM UTC-6 Dan wrote:

Some great sleuthing and info here!
I’ll add in another one that I’m pretty sure I’m not imagining: the chain 
stays look a tad shorter. 

On Saturday 10 August 2024 at 22:21:06 UTC+9:30 Dorothy C wrote:

I noticed they got down tube shifter bosses with the upcoming ones. Kind of 
surprising on a sturdy bike. 
Here is a picture of my 2016 model sky blue 46cm, a 26” wheel bike, my 
first Riv bike purchase.




On Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 4:16:17 AM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:

Despite everyone providing fantastic advice regarding my Sam rebuild.  I 
must admit, I am still incredibly interested in replacing the Sam with a 
green Joe.

Regarding tire clearance specifically…Grant told me this run of Joes would 
now match current Atlantis tire clearances.

R,

Drew

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On Aug 10, 2024, at 6:27 AM, iamkeith <keith...@gmail.com> wrote:

Watching thread, and curious about the same thing - especially since they 
felt it necessary to get new prototypes. 


The geometry chart still shows it having a slightly steeper headtube and 
shorter top tube than the equivalent Atlantis, which suprises me every time 
I've ever looked for this info.  (You kind of have to extrapolate, because 
the respective sizes alternate.)  Will's email said they will be updating 
the website eventually/soon.

I've asked this before, but can anyone describe how the various versions 
have evolved over time?  I know the fork legs got stiffer after the first 
batch, and the double top tube was dropped from the larger sizes, but I'm 
particularly interested in geometry and tire clearance improvements. 

I have more bikes than I need - especially Rivendells - but still always 
daydream about that n+1.  The Appaloosa is the model that has the least 
overlap to the bikes I already have and -  unlike any Atlantis ever - comes 
in a size that would fit me.  If it got longer and slacker, it would be 
even better.  

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