Glad I reserved one with Analog Cycles. Have a feeling they’re going to sell out fast!
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On Aug 12, 2024, at 7:43 PM, Armand Kizirian <kizirianarm...@gmail.com> wrote:

FYI I spoke to Grant over the phone today and the new Appaloosa's are indeed slacker. They have a 70 degree head tube angle in order to increase the front-center and wheelbase. Apparently better for trail riding with no downside to paved riding. 

On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 11:12:39 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
I personally wish they’d bring back the double top tube. I like the look of the green one tho, looked killer on the Platy. 

On Monday, August 12, 2024 at 4:43:28 AM UTC-4 Dan wrote:
It's beautiful. Looks comfy and capable and just the right balance of black and silver!

On the topic of Appaloosas, and entering the realm of pure speculation:
With a slacker head tube angle (using the Atlantis lugs?) and wider tyre clearance, the Appaloosa sounds very similar indeed to the previous Atlantis.
I wonder if that leaves room for the next Atlantis to shift to something different?

On Sunday 11 August 2024 at 11:31:48 UTC+9:30 trevor....@gmail.com wrote:
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On Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 7:52:50 PM UTC-6 Dan wrote:
Not derailing at all! Well done on resisting temptation. I agree with you that the Hog's Back meets a very similar use case to the Joe: an all-round, all-road tourer that can do anything and go anywhere, if slowly. I was eyeing off a Hog's Back before I picked up the Joe! Would you mind sharing photos of your bike - I'd love to see it!

On Sunday 11 August 2024 at 04:27:12 UTC+9:30 trevor....@gmail.com wrote:
I was verrrry tempted to get a green one but having thought extensively about it, I think I will keep my Bassi Hog's Back and ride that. Aside from the very long rear end, the reach is pretty similar and its been hard for me to justify selling a whole bike for less than the cost of a frame, especially when I have been quite happy with my Bassi. I don't mean to derail this conversation at all, but I'm happy with myself for resisting such a big temptation. One day Rivendell will take my money, just not this round.

On Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 7:24:58 AM UTC-6 Dan wrote:
Some great sleuthing and info here!
I’ll add in another one that I’m pretty sure I’m not imagining: the chain stays look a tad shorter. 

On Saturday 10 August 2024 at 22:21:06 UTC+9:30 Dorothy C wrote:
I noticed they got down tube shifter bosses with the upcoming ones. Kind of surprising on a sturdy bike. 
Here is a picture of my 2016 model sky blue 46cm, a 26” wheel bike, my first Riv bike purchase.




On Saturday, August 10, 2024 at 4:16:17 AM UTC-7 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
Despite everyone providing fantastic advice regarding my Sam rebuild.  I must admit, I am still incredibly interested in replacing the Sam with a green Joe.

Regarding tire clearance specifically…Grant told me this run of Joes would now match current Atlantis tire clearances.

R,

Drew

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On Aug 10, 2024, at 6:27 AM, iamkeith <keith...@gmail.com> wrote:

Watching thread, and curious about the same thing - especially since they felt it necessary to get new prototypes. 

The geometry chart still shows it having a slightly steeper headtube and shorter top tube than the equivalent Atlantis, which suprises me every time I've ever looked for this info.  (You kind of have to extrapolate, because the respective sizes alternate.)  Will's email said they will be updating the website eventually/soon.

I've asked this before, but can anyone describe how the various versions have evolved over time?  I know the fork legs got stiffer after the first batch, and the double top tube was dropped from the larger sizes, but I'm particularly interested in geometry and tire clearance improvements. 

I have more bikes than I need - especially Rivendells - but still always daydream about that n+1.  The Appaloosa is the model that has the least overlap to the bikes I already have and -  unlike any Atlantis ever - comes in a size that would fit me.  If it got longer and slacker, it would be even better.  

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