I agree with Patrick, and for pretty much the same reasons.  My 1x10 has a 
friction thumby and the 2x9 has friction bar-ends, and I have no desire to 
go back to indexing.  The lateral play in the derailleur jockey wheel makes 
the chain self-align with the cog to a certain extent, so missed shifts are 
rare.  Though I wouldn't like friction so much if I couldn't keep both 
hands on the bars while shifting, so friction on downtube shifters seems 
borderline dangerous to me (although that's all we used BITD).

Jack - Seattle

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:08:44 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> I like friction for several reasons; in order of importance (importance to 
> me, of course):
>
> 1. I like developing and using the skill. I've found that even pulling an 
> 8-speed derailleur with 5-speed shifters (741x, Bar Cons -- relevant 
> because modern shifting systems require more pull to move between cogs, 
> allowing a certain greater precision) over 10 (mismatched) cogs is quite 
> easy with practice; in fact, when I do mis-shift, it's not because the 
> system isn't precise enough, it's because I shift too gingerly and end up 
> not pulling *enough* cable.
>
> 2. It's simple and requires almost no maintenance. I hate fiddling with 
> indexing; learned that hate back in the 7-speed XT days.
>
> 3. It allows you to mix and match.
>
> 4. It discourages unnecessary shifting. I *like* having to ride at a wide 
> variety of cadences and torque levels. That said, I also hate large 
> mid-range jumps; "large" means more than 1-tooth differences. Inconsistent, 
> but still true.
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 9:49 AM Friend <jtp...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
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>> I am getting ready to build up an AHH frame.  I am planning on putting 
>> noodle bars on it and having it be 3/9 with bar-end shifters.  I'm 
>> wondering whether people here prefer friction or indexed shifters, and 
>> why.  Would love to hear any thoughts.
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