Joe,

Why do you say that you would not use a tire that wasn't tubeless specific
on the road?  As opposed to off road?  Is it the higher pressures?

I mean, I can understand the hesitation to use any widget in a way that the
manufacturer didn't recommend or intend, but what is it about on road that
is worse than off road for tubeless?

I've talked to several people (in person, not on the Internet) running
Hetres tubeless with good success, on the road, and they highly recommended
the setup.
On Feb 9, 2015 1:48 PM, "Joe Bartoe" <jbar...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> We've been building some tubeless clincher wheelsets using the Pacenti
> SL23 and the Velocity A23 rims and have had great luck with mounting the
> tires and seating them. We do use a compressor, however, and we use the
> Orange Seal tubeless sealant. The best thing about the Orange Seal is that,
> in general, the tires seat and seal on the first try. We've literally
> gotten them up to pressure, spun the wheels a few times to spread the
> sealant, put the wheel down and come back a day later to find them at
> nearly the same pressure as we've left them. With Stan's and Slime tubeless
> sealants, we've had problems getting a good seal at times.
>
> We would not recommend using a non-tubeless tire for a tubeless set up for
> road use.
>
> YMMV,
>
> Joe
>
> Joe Bartoe
> Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.
> email: j...@synapticcycles.com
> website: www.synapticcycles.com
> Twitter: @synapticcycles
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>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 10:53:53 -0800
> From: cyclotour...@gmail.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Tubeless Rims for Oregon Outback
>
> Yes, compressors are most helpful. Even then it can still be a pain IMHO.
> I had a chance to buy a second wheelset to set up tubeless, but passed on
> it.
>
> I've never had a set come off from inactivity. I did have a nasty burp out
> on the trails that sent me down pretty hard, glad to have not broken my
> scapula in the process. That was with running non-tubeless ready tires on
> Stans rims, which I have never done since then!
>
>
> On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 9:34:17 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
>
> On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 5:12:46 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> They also said that if you don't ride them regularly, it's better to use
> tubes because the tire will come off the bead, which relates to needing
> (again) to have an air compressor to seat.
>
>
>
> A compressor plus soapy water makes the job pretty easy. As to the tire
> coming off the bead, I've rarely had that happen, even if the wheel sits
> long enough to go flat. Once the bead is set, it tends to stay. If it's a
> bike you don't ride regularly, then pump them up once a month. Heck, I do
> that even for tubed tires that don't get ridden much. As mentioned by
> others, not all tires will work, and not all rims will work, but if you use
> both tires and rims designed for tubeless, it's pretty foolproof. I've only
> used tubeless rims, but I've successfully used several tires tubeless that
> aren't specified tubeless ready.
>
> jim m
> wc ca
>
>
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