Rhode-O-Island

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:28 PM, grant <grant...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I think Doug VC got it pretty right---about this being an alternative
> to carbon bikes. It is specifically and intentionally from conception
> to production a club-rider's bike. I know it's easy to see the steel
> and lugs and think "Ahhhh, Bob Jackson-ish" or "Just like my old
> Raleigh Competition," but those aren't the target with this one.
>
> About 98% of club riders don't ride downtube shifters, and this is a
> club-rider's bike.
>
> Another thing is that with our higher-bar bikes and our up-sizing, the
> dt shifters are much lower down and less accessible than they are with
> a low-bar bike.
> The other thing is the thin tubing. It's better to keep the footprint
> smaller and closer to the lug so the thinner tubing is left more
> alone. DT weigh more and require more heat to braze on in a thinner
> part of the tube.
>
> As for Wford's influence--this is our bike. It is an ongoing thorn of
> sorts that we don't hide our builders, and then our bikes are thought
> of as their bikes. If we want the DT shifters, we can get them---but
> for the reasons above, we don't want them.
>
> However--if anybody on this list wants the bike with DT shifters, we
> will use a different down tube and do that for a $50 upcharge. The
> upcharge isn't the pure, physical price of the shifter bosses. That's
> about $17. But then we round the bases to reduce the stress riser; and
> that's labor. And then there's the special handling of the different
> tube. Anybody who has worked in a shop knows that setting up a machine
> for a five-minute operation can take 40 minutes; and that introducing
> exceptions increases the risk of a screw up. Our cost on this is about
> $120, but we'll split that cost and charge just $60.
>
> I stll wouldn't recommend it. I know DT shifters are fine, but they
> aren't a perfect fit with the concept of this particular bike. Still,
> we can do them.
>
> We've worked a lot on the Roadeo, and that work disappears as soon as
> the bike shows up. Nothing on the frame landed their by default, and
> nothing left off was overlooked. There are lots of forks in the road
> that present two or three or four good options, but the bike has room
> for only one.
>
> Hey--the headbadge sample should be here in about 2 weeks. It's made
> in Rhode Island, and is coming along pretty nicely!
>
> Best,
>
> Grant
> >
>


-- 
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

"Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye,
scientist guy

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