Howdy folks. Places like W'ford do both batch production and truly custom one-at-a-time builds as well. I am pretty sure the Roadeo and probably anything RBW has built there is done in batches. I read a lot of framebuilder stuff on the web and batches are much faster and easier, therefore frames that are batch built can be priced lower. Changes that seem minor negate those savings...
Doug On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Jim Cloud <cloud...@aol.com> wrote: > > Steve, I think the term production is a little strained for bicycles > produced in a facility that still requires many hand operations by a > skilled craftman. These operations, I suspect, do not involve much > that would be common with a production operation in a modern factory > with robot welding, etc. Surely, the total yearly production of > frames by Waterford must be miniscule compared to a real factory > operation. > > If you look at some of the options available on Waterford's own > models, for example: > http://waterfordbikes.com/now/pricelist.php?newstype=14seriesO. > there are many options available. Again, I still can't see why there > could not be more flexibility for the Roadeo model options. As I > stated at the outset, I'm not in the market, however if I was I'd > expect something more accommodating for a $2,000 frame. > > Jim > > On Aug 28, 2:47 pm, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 12:07 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote: > > > I'm not in the market for another bike, so any comments are simply > > > reflective of my own opinion. It seems strange to me that Grant, who > > > was always an exponent of not using shifting components that required > > > "system compatibility" has agreed to spec the Roadeo so that its braze- > > > on's are only really useful with a shift integrated (e.g. Shimano) > > > system. > > > > They won't work with bar end shifters? > > > > > I also find it perplexing that Rivendell, apparently, will not > > > accommodate a customer request to have downtube shifter bosses on the > > > frame. This is not a cheap bicycle, $2,000 is a good chunk of > > > change. Perhaps this lack of flexibility is reflective of what > > > Waterford is willing to accept. > > > > This is supposed to be a production bike, not a custom. That pretty > > much precludes custom braze-ons, doesn't it? Unless, of course, they're > > to be done post-production, the way I had the rack mounts relocated on > > my Saluki to fit the preferred location for the Berthoud front rack. > > > > > > > > > Finally, having only white available as a standard color (with an > > > upcharge of $300.00 for another color), strikes me as rather like > > > Henry Ford's options for the model T (any color available, as long as > > > it was black). > > > > Again, doesn't that match the realities of production processing? > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
