Hi, The cable stops that the prototype has are brazed on the DT. To do shifter mounts instead will be no more work or time for the frame builder. IF you can get the frame with custom paint, I don't see why you couldn't ask for DT shifters as well. I'll bet the reason Waterford does not show frames with shifter mounts is do to the fact that a very very large portion of the bicycle buying population does not need or want them. I was in a bike shop a while ago asking how much they sell the cable stop mounts for DT shifters for because when you get Campy ErgoPower levers they no longer provide them. They said that they had such a large box of unused ones that they'll be happy to give them away! Cheers! On Aug 28, 2009, at 6:42 PM, JoelMatthews wrote:
> >> Waterford makes the Boulder Bicycles frames and the three I've seen >> all had d/t shifter mounts. So they do know how to do it! > > Well, yeah. And their own Hetchins tribute has dt mounts. > > I am guessing no option on the Roadeo and it would appear on > Waterford's own stock models (unless I am missing something on their > web site) has something to do with Steve's point about setting up the > jigs and all. > > Possibly d/t mounts take some additional set up - which means time - > which means money. > > On Aug 28, 5:53 pm, Ryan Watson <rswat...@nyx.net> wrote: >> Waterford makes the Boulder Bicycles frames and the three I've seen >> all had d/t shifter mounts. So they do know how to do it! >> >> Ryan >> >> On Aug 28, 2009, at 13:18, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Perhaps this lack of flexibility is reflective of what >>>> Waterford is willing to accept. >> >>> Waterford could be driving this. From their site it appears the >>> only >>> frame offered with DT braze ons is the (actually rather attractive) >>> Hetchins Swallow Tribute touring bike. None of the Waterford road >>> racing bikes have DT braze ons. GP's write up said he put more >>> of the >>> design specs in Waterford's hands because he was trying to meet a >>> specific weight total. Maybe Waterford believes accommodating DT >>> braze ons adds too much weight. >> >>>> Finally, having only white available as a standard color (with an >>>> upcharge of $300.00 for another color), strikes me as rather like >>>> Henry Ford's options for the model T (any color available, as >>>> long as >>>> it was black). >> >>> This has always been Riv's policy on paint though. In this >>> instance, >>> I do not mind, as the stock Roadeo scheme is close to the Trek 959, >>> the bike I dreamed about owning during my High School days. >> >>> On Aug 28, 2:07 pm, Jim Cloud <cloud...@aol.com> wrote: >>>> I'm not in the market for another bike, so any comments are simply >>>> reflective of my own opinion. It seems strange to me that >>>> Grant, who >>>> was always an exponent of not using shifting components that >>>> required >>>> "system compatibility" has agreed to spec the Roadeo so that its >>>> braze- >>>> on's are only really useful with a shift integrated (e.g. Shimano) >>>> system. >> >>>> I also find it perplexing that Rivendell, apparently, will not >>>> accommodate a customer request to have downtube shifter bosses >>>> on the >>>> frame. This is not a cheap bicycle, $2,000 is a good chunk of >>>> change. Perhaps this lack of flexibility is reflective of what >>>> Waterford is willing to accept. >> >>>> Finally, having only white available as a standard color (with an >>>> upcharge of $300.00 for another color), strikes me as rather like >>>> Henry Ford's options for the model T (any color available, as >>>> long as >>>> it was black). >> >>>> Jim >> >>>> On Aug 28, 11:06 am, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> Aren't band attached down tube mounts available? >> >>>>> Indeed there are. >> >>>>> However, I have two lovely NOS sets of Simplex braze on dt levers >>>>> with >>>>> the sunburst (the older, harder to get in good NOS condition >>>>> Simplex >>>>> levers), an NOS Simplex white plastic braze on set and two >>>>> beautiful >>>>> NOS Campy Record braze on lever sets. >> >>>>> I readily admit we are going into persnickity parts collector >>>>> territory here, but I really would like to have a bike where I >>>>> could >>>>> rotate use of some of those lovely old parts >> >>>>> Maybe if I had some swell clamp on sets I would feel differently. >>>>> Real nice NOS clamp on shifters are far and few between, >>>>> however. I >>>>> have been actively collecting for six years now and can only >>>>> remember >>>>> one or two being offered for sale. >> >>>>> Besides, it would look kind of odd to have such a lovely frame >>>>> with >>>>> unused cable routers above a clamp on shifter. >>>>> On Aug 28, 12:33 pm, Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> Aren't band attached down tube mounts available? IIRC, many early >>>>>> steel frames had cable guides and bottle holders attached by wrap >>>>>> around bands, not braze ons, so this would not be that unusual. >> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:48 AM, >>>>>>> JoelMatthews<joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> Well, it is not exactly like the bikes raced by Jacques >>>>>>>> Anquetil and >>>>>>>> Eddy Merckx as it does not have down tube shifter braze ons.- >>>>>>>> Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >>>> - Show quoted text - > > James Valiensi, P.E. C.E.M. 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