Three hours? Or less? Oh Steve, shame, shame. I do it, and my jobs usually
require going back and undoing something, I did hastily and wrongly, then
doing it different and right a second time, and I swear it takes me no more
than an hour for a pair of them, Honjo, VO, or Berthoud.

Perhaps it's because I install them on fixed gears?

Maybe I'm just very, very good?

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:

>
> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 08:05 -0700, b hamon wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Last batch of VO fenders I saw were not pre-drilled. How much of a
> > hassle IS it to drill your own fenders? Seriously. Is it an
> > all-day-at-home affair?
> >
>
> It shouldn't be.  You are a competent wrench, I am an all-thumbs hack.
> You have a proper place to work and I'll bet it even has good lighting,
> and I'll bet you have metric hardware, too.  (The first set I did, I
> wasted hours trying to find metric fasteners.  Home Despot?  Forget
> about it!  Those big joints have absolutely nothing that's metric.)
>
> The last set I installed, 58mm Honjos on my Saluki, came close to being
> an all-day job, but I was swapping out Oursons and replacing them with
> Hetres, removing a set of stainless 50mm Berthouds for later use on
> another bike, and I had to surgically alter the fender in order to get
> it to fit.  You won't have to do that.
>
> I usually do this sort of thing outdoors in bright daylight, but that
> last time it was a dark, rainy day and I had to work in a dimly lighted
> basement.  I must have lost an hour simply to dropping nuts and washers,
> searching futilely for them, then having to find replacements.
>
> Usually (I've done 3 sets, so based on my large experience base...) it
> takes 3 hours or less.
>
> It is fiddly.  Whether it's a hassle or an exercise in zen-like patient
> plodding is up to you.  You have to temporarily hang the fender, mark
> one spot, drill it, then install again.  Mark the next place, remove the
> fender, drill, install.  Mark the next spots.  Repeat.  If you try to do
> it all at once, you end up with holes that don't line up.  It takes
> patience, and I find it can't be hurried.  Relax, go with the flow, and
> it becomes more satisfying than frustrating.
>
> It gets a little tricky under the fork crown.  Depending on the specific
> bike, you may need a rubber spacer between the fender and the fork crown
> (e.g., the Kogswell P/R was designed for a 1 cm rubber spacer at the
> crown).
>
> Also, it makes a difference whether you're going to use brackets
> (similar to what SKS uses) or whether the bike has fittings for fenders
> in the right places.  My Saluki has a threaded vertical fitting under
> the brake bridge.  At the fork crown I used a Berthoud "daruma bolt"
> that hung off the front rack tang; with sidepull brakes it would hang
> off the brake mounting bolt.
>
> On some bikes you need to create an angled flat spot directly under the
> fork crown so that the fender will snuggle up at the correct angle.  You
> hammer that in with the handle of a hammer.  The Honjos on my Velo
> Orange came with that angled flat spot already created.
>
> Another thing that makes a big difference is whether the bridges are in
> the right places.  I've been lucky that with my bikes everything's all
> been in exactly the right place.  I didn't have to fashion any kind of
> spacer for the chainstay bridge.  I've seen an Atlantis that needed the
> full length of a wine cork as a spacer in that location, because the
> bridge was so very far forward compared to where the fender wanted it to
> be.
>
> You SHOULD do this.  It would be a very useful skill for you
> professionally.  There aren't many bike shops that know the first thing
> about installing fenders like this. and after all, you live in one of
> the most fender-rich places in the country.
>
> Here http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/sets/72157617915097787/
> are some photos of the Saluki, mostly concentrating on the fenders.
>
>
> >
>


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Patrick Moore
Albuquerque, NM
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