I don't mean to contribute to thread drift, but I have an Albatross on
a tandem, and I love it. That bike has a 1-1/4" threaded fork, so the
quill stem is very beefy. 150mm of extension and 90 degrees worked out
very well and is quite stiff. The Albatross is the extra wide chromoly
version, and the whole setup makes it easy to herd that beast around
corners. I'd try one on a mountain bike, but they don't work well in
rock gardens. I have enough trouble staying upright without the
handlebar whacking my legs.

On Dec 24, 8:51 am, palin...@his.com wrote:
> Quoting Atlantean <softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com>:
>
>
>
> > As stated, I *did* push the Cinelli stem all the way down, but the
> > Albatross was still too high. Cutting the fork *might* have gotten the
> > bar low enough, but there were other issues and if it did not work,
> > then I would still have a shortened steer tube. They are quite
> > difficult to lengthen. :)
>
> No kidding.  That's one of the big issues many of us have with  
> threadless.  I didn't see that msg until after I'd replied.
>
>
>
> > In the end, I used a different bar, a rare old Bridgestone bar that
> > has about 2" of drop (I just measured). This is the opposite of the
> > Albatross, which has rise unless you turn it over. The Bridgestone bar
> > also requires far less stem extension
>
> Yes, different handlebars require different stem extensions.  It's a  
> challenge figuring out what you need ahead of time.  That's one reason  
> there's so much stem exchanging going on on the lists.  It's a good  
> thing you can use an albatross bar - it's one of the most  
> controversial designs ever.
>
> I've seen the Albatross mounted upside-down.  I think it looks great,  
> very much like the sporting bikes pre-WWI.
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