I'm not a fan of the 7 shaped stem, and I really really don't like the
looks of track stems. A track stem and an Albatross bar? I don't think
so.

The Atlantis comes with 15mm of spacers (I think) under the top nut. I
couild have shortened the steer tube up by that much and that might
have lowered the Albatross bar enough, but since the stem I was using
(an old Cinelli 13cm with a home brewed shim) was far from ideal, I
was not willing to make such a committment for an experiment. Bike
shop mechanics cut steer tubes of all description routinely, by the
way. Anyway, if that same frame had come with a threadless fork, it
would have been very easy to try the lowest postion available before
cutting the fork. People do this all the time with mountain bike
builds. Yes, it looks pretty funny with spacers on top of the stem,
but once the position is sorted out after a few rides, it's easy to
cut the steer tube to the proper length. There is nothing difficult
about shuffling spacers around, either. You can't get them backwards
or upside down. They come in many different lengths, too, so once the
proper dimension is determined, it is possible to use one spacer of
the proper length in most cases. That looks pretty tidy.

That whole process can get pretty fiddly, but then so can unwrapping
bars and removing levers in order to try a different stem. With modern
mountain bike stems, and increasingly common road setups, it's easy to
swap between stems. Takes a couple of minutes. We have a guest bike,
an old GT dually, that several people ride over the course of a
season. It's a very simple matter to swap stems on that bike, and it
gets done often. It has air springs on each end, so at the most we
swap out saddles, stems, pedals and adjust the air pressure and it's
good to go. This is a very common practice.

On Dec 23, 10:07 pm, John McMurry <johnmcmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 23, 8:18 pm, Atlantean <softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I removed an Albatross bar from my Atlantis even though I liked it a
> > lot, simply because I could not get it low enough!
>
> A stem like this stem ought to help that situation:
>
> http://www.businesscycles.com/tstem-nitto.htm
>
> >  Imagine that! It
> > would have been easy with a threadless fork.
>
> How would've it been easier to lower the bars with a threadless fork?
>
> > Actually, I have
> > considered getting a custom fork for that bike, and painting it to
> > match the head tube.
>
> That stem, while not exactly cheap, is a whole lot cheaper than a
> custom fork, if the purpose is to get the bars low.
>
> Though, if that's the purpose, I bet there's a better bar for your
> ride.
>
> John McMurry
> Burlington, VT
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