I have to believe that shimmy has a strong component of Human Body in it.  My 
good friend and 35 year cyclist, twice trans-America rider, and former wrench 
has had many bikes over the years and has had shimmy on every one of them.  
Given the variety of his bikes, geometries, materials, etc. that his particular 
build is the only common factor and, therefore, evidence of at least one cause 
outside the realm of design.  I'd be willing to bet that every bike ever 
designed has shimmied under a rider at some point.  Does that mean every design 
is flawed?  No, of course not.  I, OTOH, have never had a bike shimmy, nor have 
I witnessed it, in my 35 years of semi-serious cycling.  Ultimately, shimmy 
caused by poor frame design is probably the most intuitive rationale, but 
rarely the true and total cause.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: CycloFiend 
  To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:01 PM
  Subject: [RBW] Re: Low trail Atlantis fork



  on 9/16/08 5:04 PM, EricP at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  > In the interest of fairness - I recently posted on a different list
  > about shimmy.  And mentiond there that my Atlantis does the shimmy the
  > most.  Of course, there is a lot of seatpost showing on that bike.
  > Along with a lot of stem.  And pretty fat tires, Schwalbe Big Apple
  > 2.15.  Oh, and I have the Nitto mini rack and often a Little Loafer on
  > the bike.  And all of this means nothing.  It could be one of these
  > things, and it could be none of them.
  > 
  > None of this also makes the Atlantis less than my favorite bike.  And
  > the most stable on downhill runs.
  > 
  > But that's just me.  And what do I know?

  Hey there Eric - 

  My comments weren't to dismiss the occurence of shimmy when it occurs - I
  hope it didn't come across that way.

  I've seen it, heard stories, seen abrasions and damage from folks who
  panicked, locked up and lost it, but been lucky to have it happen only one
  time to me directly.

  I honestly think that shimmy is one of the least well understood conditions
  which can occur on a bike.  There is a lot of conjecture on the subject, but
  little study. 

  Jobst Brandt wrote a good reference on it:
  http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/shimmy.html

  - Jim

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