In the interest of fairness - I recently posted on a different list about shimmy. And mentiond there that my Atlantis does the shimmy the most. Of course, there is a lot of seatpost showing on that bike. Along with a lot of stem. And pretty fat tires, Schwalbe Big Apple 2.15. Oh, and I have the Nitto mini rack and often a Little Loafer on the bike. And all of this means nothing. It could be one of these things, and it could be none of them.
None of this also makes the Atlantis less than my favorite bike. And the most stable on downhill runs. But that's just me. And what do I know? Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sep 16, 6:20�pm, CycloFiend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/16/08 5:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Interesting article by someone who replaced the fork on their Atlantis > > to eliminate the "shimmies". > > >http://readytoride.biz/?p=333 > > These things always catch my interest. �One of my riding partners (JimG, > master of the useful hack) has been addressing shimmy issues on his non-Riv > frame. One similarity I notice right off that bat is that - if the saddle > height shown in the photo is correct - he seems to be running a fair amount > of seatpost. � > > That is one variable which seems to crop up frequently among those who have > front-end speed-specific, load-induced wobbles: a goodly amount of post > showing. �It might just be the angle of the photo, but it seems that way on > a Brooks, which has a taller rails-to-top measurement than most commercial > saddles. > > I'm with Gino and Jay on this one, David's use of the term "flawed" does > strike me as improper. �For his application and riding style, it may not be > appropriate, but I would not categorize the design as "flawed". > > One Million Atlantis Owner's Can't Be Wrong... > (hmmm...maybe the next RBW t-shirt) > > Grant has posted and stated his opinions concerning trail > before:http://tinyurl.com/5kerye > > (If it's of interest, you can follow that thread by clicking on the title of > it. �I had made a comment in which there were links to similar info and > threads on the web and in other discussion groups.) > > As he says (and has related in conversations I've had with him), that you > really can't change one variable in a vacum - you will affect other aspects > of the design. > > I take this to mean that you either re-rake the stock fork and change the HT > angle and axle-to-fork-crown distance, or you get a fork made to maintain > those things and end up with the front wheel in a very different place. > > The first attempt - just bending the fork - gave him approximately 50 mm of > trail. �My understanding of the BQ tests (and JimG's experience) indicate > that this is sort of the "dead zone" of placement. Yet, David felt it was > getting "closer", which encouraged him to pursue getting a custom made. > > I certainly don't think I would've just set off on a 105 mile ride with the > an untested setup, but that's just me. More than likely, his > century-plus-a-nickel ride is like my 25 miler... > > It would be interesting to take the now low-trail forked Atlantis and set a > loaded saddlebag onto it, to see what that handling would be like. I'd make > the suggestion to him, but can't seem to dig out my wordpress login, if in > fact I ever had one. I think that would be an interesting experiment. > > - Jim > > -- > Jim Edgar > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > Your Photos are needed! -http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines > > "Steel's what you want for a messenger bike. �Weight. Big basket up front. > Not cardboard with some crazy aramid shit wrapped around it, weighs about as > much as a sandwich." > -- William Gibson, "Virtual Light" --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---