I agree with what folks said here. The Atlantis is meant for heavy rear loading. A lot of these trail conversations have to do with riding with no hands. I usually have at least one hand on the bike, so I've never had this problem. Maybe I just haven't felt it yet.
On Sep 16, 5:04 pm, EricP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the interest of fairness - I recently posted on a different list > about shimmy. And mentiond there that my Atlantis does the shimmy the > most. Of course, there is a lot of seatpost showing on that bike. > Along with a lot of stem. And pretty fat tires, Schwalbe Big Apple > 2.15. Oh, and I have the Nitto mini rack and often a Little Loafer on > the bike. And all of this means nothing. It could be one of these > things, and it could be none of them. > > None of this also makes the Atlantis less than my favorite bike. And > the most stable on downhill runs. > > But that's just me. And what do I know? > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On Sep 16, 6:20 pm, CycloFiend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on 9/16/08 5:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Interesting article by someone who replaced the fork on their Atlantis > > > to eliminate the "shimmies". > > > >http://readytoride.biz/?p=333 > > > These things always catch my interest. One of my riding partners (JimG, > > master of the useful hack) has been addressing shimmy issues on his non-Riv > > frame. One similarity I notice right off that bat is that - if the saddle > > height shown in the photo is correct - he seems to be running a fair amount > > of seatpost. > > > That is one variable which seems to crop up frequently among those who have > > front-end speed-specific, load-induced wobbles: a goodly amount of post > > showing. It might just be the angle of the photo, but it seems that way on > > a Brooks, which has a taller rails-to-top measurement than most commercial > > saddles. > > > I'm with Gino and Jay on this one, David's use of the term "flawed" does > > strike me as improper. For his application and riding style, it may not be > > appropriate, but I would not categorize the design as "flawed". > > > One Million Atlantis Owner's Can't Be Wrong... > > (hmmm...maybe the next RBW t-shirt) > > > Grant has posted and stated his opinions concerning trail > > before:http://tinyurl.com/5kerye > > > (If it's of interest, you can follow that thread by clicking on the title of > > it. I had made a comment in which there were links to similar info and > > threads on the web and in other discussion groups.) > > > As he says (and has related in conversations I've had with him), that you > > really can't change one variable in a vacum - you will affect other aspects > > of the design. > > > I take this to mean that you either re-rake the stock fork and change the HT > > angle and axle-to-fork-crown distance, or you get a fork made to maintain > > those things and end up with the front wheel in a very different place. > > > The first attempt - just bending the fork - gave him approximately 50 mm of > > trail. My understanding of the BQ tests (and JimG's experience) indicate > > that this is sort of the "dead zone" of placement. Yet, David felt it was > > getting "closer", which encouraged him to pursue getting a custom made. > > > I certainly don't think I would've just set off on a 105 mile ride with the > > an untested setup, but that's just me. More than likely, his > > century-plus-a-nickel ride is like my 25 miler... > > > It would be interesting to take the now low-trail forked Atlantis and set a > > loaded saddlebag onto it, to see what that handling would be like. I'd make > > the suggestion to him, but can't seem to dig out my wordpress login, if in > > fact I ever had one. I think that would be an interesting experiment. > > > - Jim > > > -- > > Jim Edgar > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > > Your Photos are needed! -http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines > > > "Steel's what you want for a messenger bike. Weight. Big basket up front. > > Not cardboard with some crazy aramid shit wrapped around it, weighs about as > > much as a sandwich." > > -- William Gibson, "Virtual Light" --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
