I'll go ahead and be that guy who says he doesn't like seeing his open
source community move away from irc.  Sure slack may work with irc but
is there actually a problem with just using irc?? This is maybe the
2nd or 3rd pyramid discussion I'm seeing offloaded to slack and it
bothers me.

Back to the original discussion, why the sudden push for subdomains?
We could easily just re-org things under pylonsproject.org and make it
significantly easier to secure with https in the future.

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Bert JW Regeer <[email protected]> wrote:
> Speaking of Slack, what’s the info and how could I join?
>
> Bert
>
>> On Dec 26, 2014, at 15:55, Paul Everitt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 26, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Blaise Laflamme <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> You're right about this issue and I think time has come to do something.
>>>
>>> Me and Paul started some efforts on this and never finished it but we were 
>>> on a good track I think. What I suggested him lately was to streamline and 
>>> narrow the original scope and start work on unifying what we have.
>>>
>>> For sure I need to finish the brand stuff I already started and spread it 
>>> across what we already have online but we also need to rethink how the 
>>> information is structured and how we relate everything.
>>>
>>> I propose to move this discussion over slack :)
>>
>> Sounds fun. Let’s create a #pylons there..oh wait, we don’t want to 
>> perpetuate the word “Pylons”…oh wait, we want to reinforce it as an 
>> umbrella. Core dump. :)
>>
>> I think a Slack channel would be good.
>>
>> —Paul
>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 26, 2014 1:56:07 AM UTC-5, Sontek wrote:
>>> There is a lot of confusion around the "Pylons" organization and I think in 
>>> general our http://www.pylonsproject.org/ website doesn't help alleviate 
>>> any of that confusion.  For example you can't even go to 
>>> http://www.pylonsproject.org/projects and get a list of Pylons projects, 
>>> this just redirects to Pyramid's about page.
>>>
>>> I feel we should decide which are "official" pylons projects and make it 
>>> extremely obvious which ones fall under this umbrella.  Off the top of my 
>>> head the following are ones probably worth listing under this umbrella:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Pylons/colander
>>> https://github.com/Pylons/deform
>>> https://github.com/Pylons/substanced
>>> https://github.com/Pylons/venusian
>>> https://github.com/Pylons/waitress
>>> https://github.com/Pylons/webtest
>>> https://github.com/Pylons/webob
>>>
>>> Now they all already live under the /Pylons/ organization on github but 
>>> there are plenty of less "complete" projects underneath that organization 
>>> that makes it hard to track down which are ready for prime time.
>>>
>>> The other big issue is a lot of these live under their domain, under 
>>> pythonpaste.org, or don't have a website outside of readthedocs at all.
>>>
>>> I propose that we create subdomains for each of them and make sure to be 
>>> consistent on including a footer that mentions that they are pylons 
>>> projects.  This would be similar to how the Apache organization manages 
>>> their projects:
>>>
>>> http://kafka.apache.org/
>>> https://spark.apache.org/
>>> http://cassandra.apache.org/
>>>
>>> and how pocoo does it:
>>>
>>> http://flask.pocoo.org/
>>> http://click.pocoo.org/
>>> http://werkzeug.pocoo.org/
>>>
>>> It would probably also make sense to try to maintain a more consistent 
>>> brand across each projects website as well. Allowing each project to have 
>>> some personality of their own will be important by keeping a standard color 
>>> scheme and layout would help people recognize a pylons project immediately.
>>>
>>> What do you wonderful humans think?
>>>
>>> - sontek
>>>
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