On 12/26/14 10:40 AM, Michael Merickel wrote:
I'll go ahead and be that guy who says he doesn't like seeing his open
source community move away from irc. Sure slack may work with irc but
is there actually a problem with just using irc?? This is maybe the
2nd or 3rd pyramid discussion I'm seeing offloaded to slack and it
bothers me.
Back to the original discussion, why the sudden push for subdomains?
We could easily just re-org things under pylonsproject.org and make it
significantly easier to secure with https in the future.
I think having a pyramid based domain name would be better as I have
noticed that branding does seem to matter. I do agree about the
subdomains, I don't think they are strictly necessary for the first
iteration.
I would be willing to help out on pretty much anything that is needed to
make this work.
AM
PS: +1 for IRC, I realize slack has more 'integrations' but other than
file attachments I have not particularly found them to be useful.
PPS: regularly use hipchat, irc and xmpp :)
On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Bert JW Regeer <[email protected]> wrote:
Speaking of Slack, what’s the info and how could I join?
Bert
On Dec 26, 2014, at 15:55, Paul Everitt <[email protected]> wrote:
On Dec 26, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Blaise Laflamme <[email protected]> wrote:
You're right about this issue and I think time has come to do something.
Me and Paul started some efforts on this and never finished it but we were on a
good track I think. What I suggested him lately was to streamline and narrow
the original scope and start work on unifying what we have.
For sure I need to finish the brand stuff I already started and spread it
across what we already have online but we also need to rethink how the
information is structured and how we relate everything.
I propose to move this discussion over slack :)
Sounds fun. Let’s create a #pylons there..oh wait, we don’t want to perpetuate
the word “Pylons”…oh wait, we want to reinforce it as an umbrella. Core dump. :)
I think a Slack channel would be good.
—Paul
On Friday, December 26, 2014 1:56:07 AM UTC-5, Sontek wrote:
There is a lot of confusion around the "Pylons" organization and I think in
general our http://www.pylonsproject.org/ website doesn't help alleviate any of that
confusion. For example you can't even go to http://www.pylonsproject.org/projects and
get a list of Pylons projects, this just redirects to Pyramid's about page.
I feel we should decide which are "official" pylons projects and make it
extremely obvious which ones fall under this umbrella. Off the top of my head the
following are ones probably worth listing under this umbrella:
https://github.com/Pylons/colander
https://github.com/Pylons/deform
https://github.com/Pylons/substanced
https://github.com/Pylons/venusian
https://github.com/Pylons/waitress
https://github.com/Pylons/webtest
https://github.com/Pylons/webob
Now they all already live under the /Pylons/ organization on github but there are plenty
of less "complete" projects underneath that organization that makes it hard to
track down which are ready for prime time.
The other big issue is a lot of these live under their domain, under
pythonpaste.org, or don't have a website outside of readthedocs at all.
I propose that we create subdomains for each of them and make sure to be
consistent on including a footer that mentions that they are pylons projects.
This would be similar to how the Apache organization manages their projects:
http://kafka.apache.org/
https://spark.apache.org/
http://cassandra.apache.org/
and how pocoo does it:
http://flask.pocoo.org/
http://click.pocoo.org/
http://werkzeug.pocoo.org/
It would probably also make sense to try to maintain a more consistent brand
across each projects website as well. Allowing each project to have some
personality of their own will be important by keeping a standard color scheme
and layout would help people recognize a pylons project immediately.
What do you wonderful humans think?
- sontek
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